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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16716 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-05 19:50:01
January 05 2017 19:21 GMT
#1041
Ever since Dana White got involved with the UFC he has been looking for the "next Mike Tyson". Many fighters realize Dana's love of Tyson and in a smart political move call themselves "the Mike Tyson of featherweight" .. "the Mike Tyson of.." whatever.. its Mike Tyson this.. Mike Tyson that... non-stop.

well he have a new Mike Tyson. And she smashed Dana's golden goose that lays the golden PPV eggs. Check out Herb Dean's opinion of Amanda Nunes punching power.



Let's "pay attention to outcomes" ...
On January 25 2016 15:23 GreenHorizons wrote:
Starting off 2016 with a prediction.
Everyone except Johnson and McGregor lose their title this year.

really good projection.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 05 2017 20:44 GMT
#1042
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 05 2017 20:58 GMT
#1043
Amanda Nunes isn't going to hold onto this belt for very long. Not Mike Tyson. She has no wrestling and has the worst ground game for someone who supposedly is a "BJJ Blackbelt".

I'm not being a hater, those are just the facts.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16716 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-05 21:30:17
January 05 2017 21:13 GMT
#1044
i think Nunes will defeat whoever wins the Pena//Shevchenko match. i wonder how many 135ers will move up.

here is Ronda and Conor on Google trends the past 2 years. guess who is red?
[image loading]
i wish i could listen in on the speech that Dana White gives Ronda to try to convince her to fight a tomato can like Jessice Eye.


Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16716 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-06 00:13:41
January 06 2017 00:07 GMT
#1045
From Metlzer's Wrestling Observer Newsletter.

As far as business is concerned, all early indications are strong. Even through doing almost no promotional work, the story of Rousey fighting after 13 months seemed to intrigue people in the end. Ticket sales started off slow. Usually UFC sells most of its tickets right off the bat. Yet, a few weeks out sales picked up big and we were told they were going to legitimately sell out. They ended up with a Las Vegas record, a sellout reported as 18,533 for $4.75 million. Tickets were priced much cheaper than McGregor fights or UFC 200, and the gate was nowhere close to those shows.
Early PPV reports, sketchy at this point because of the holiday, were very strong. Reports from sports bars were that they were largely packed, perhaps not at the peak of Rousey’s fights with Bethe Correia or Holm, but at or ahead of McGregor levels outside of McGregor strongholds like strong Irish areas. And the audience was different, with a far higher percentage of women. Google searches regarding the show itself were slightly ahead of UFC 205. Google searches relating to everything UFC (which are traditionally not a great PPV indicator, as only individual show searches correlate well with PPV numbers) over the weekend were ahead of everything except the Rousey-Holm fight, as Rousey alone had 10 million searches on Thursday and Friday.
Based on very early estimates the thing is looking at 1.1 million, but this year those numbers have usually ended up being 20 percent high on the big shows. However, unlike with McGregor, where early estimates are high, especially those done of iPPV, Rousey buyers by not being as likely to order on the internet, her last three fights did pretty much identical numbers to what we had midweek after the fight.
The scary part is this was a Friday and that was going to hurt. With Brock Lesnar vs. Alistair Overeem, the Google search metric that is usually accurate had that fight at what would have been nearly 800,000 when it did 540,000, and other trends also showed just how far off being on Friday hurt. The same thing happened here, as this was 19 percent ahead of McGregor vs. Diaz II, which is the all-time record holder and 27 percent ahead of UFC 205 and 23 percent ahead of the first McGregor vs. Diaz. It was far ahead of Rousey vs. Holm (which ended up doing 1,090,000) for a Rousey vs. Rousey comparison so you can’t say well it’s just Rousey fights being better than McGregor in a metric that wouldn’t translate to a buy number, when actually it’s a great predictor. If it was on a normal Saturday without huge college football competition, this probably would have broken the record. If she and Amanda Nunes had promoted it at all, even on a Friday against the Orange Bowl, the number would have been considerably higher. But neither did, Rousey because she refused and Nunes because Rousey didn’t.


early estimates have UFC 207 at 1.1 million PPV buys. They'll need that because UFC 206 buy rate was very low and there is no January PPV. The more i learn the more i realize the UFC/Dana are going to be begging Honda to come back and fight again. Maybe she can cut down to 125 and they can create a 125 lb belt for her.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 06 2017 00:18 GMT
#1046
On January 06 2017 06:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i think Nunes will defeat whoever wins the Pena//Shevchenko match. i wonder how many 135ers will move up.


Both of those girls can beat Nunes. I even would bet on Shevchenko despite what happened the last time they fought.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16716 Posts
January 06 2017 04:29 GMT
#1047
whoever wins... i just hope they don't kill each other so that we can see Nunes defend her belt relatively soon.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16716 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-06 16:50:04
January 06 2017 16:28 GMT
#1048
i really like Firas Zahabi. Welcome to the crazy world of 2017 where Zahabi spends 40 minutes breaking down a 48 second fight.

he provides a fascinating look at people blaming Rousey's coach.


"Ronda has always had very poor defensive skills ... with 4 ounce gloves you can't have a long career that way"
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 06 2017 18:14 GMT
#1049
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16716 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-10 00:17:52
January 10 2017 00:15 GMT
#1050
UFC 209 Woodley v. Thompson.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/1/9/14219160/tyron-woodley-announces-he-will-rematch-stephen-thompson-at-ufc-209

i thought Woodley won a close fight against Thompson last time. so i'm looking forward to this one.

according to Meltzer's Wrestling Observer Newsletter 500,000 PPV buys on DirectTV alone means UFC 207 Buyrate was crazy high. like 1.5 million or more.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
January 12 2017 07:12 GMT
#1051

chael back to working his magic :D
© Current year.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16716 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-13 00:45:40
January 13 2017 00:06 GMT
#1052
Khabib versus Ferguson for the UFC Interim Lightweight title @ UFC 209.
http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/18462363/khabib-nurmagomedov-tony-ferguson-interim-lightweight-title-bout-nearly-finalized-ufc-209

fw,bw,fw,ifw,lw,ilw,ww,mw,lhw,hw
sw,bw,fw

UFC will have 13 titles. 13 is an unlucky number so i have a suggestion for a 14th belt. Ted Dibiase's Million Dollar Belt
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Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-13 02:38:03
January 13 2017 00:45 GMT
#1053
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16716 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-13 17:06:04
January 13 2017 16:44 GMT
#1054
the UFC belt situation is better than the WBC belt situation. so its better than unintelligable. WBC has ~30 champs and less than 50 champs if u include the silver level thing so "5X the number and still have less" is not true.

the UFC is starting to go down the boxing pathway with irrelevant interim titles and a women's 145 lb title being fought for by a 135er on a 2 fight losing streak who has not fought at 145 in years. if they had 2 proper 145 lb top contenders rather than 2 UFC employees with careers going sideways i'd have more respect for the 145 lb UFC belt. Dana constantly criticizes boxing orgs and now he is starting to act like them.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-13 18:25:50
January 13 2017 18:24 GMT
#1055
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16716 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-13 19:14:21
January 13 2017 19:13 GMT
#1056
the UFC is 1 org. so comparing it to several boxing orgs and examing the sum total of all champs is an unfair comparison. i chose the single boxing org with the most champions for the most extreme example of "too many champs".
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
January 13 2017 19:57 GMT
#1057
I think its a fair comparison. Don't think we will see a fighter enter the octagon with 4 belts in the same weight class for awhile.
It is what it is
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 13 2017 20:13 GMT
#1058
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16716 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-13 20:50:12
January 13 2017 20:32 GMT
#1059
WBC has <50 champions including female. after UFC209 the UFC has 13 champs including female. 5*13 > 50.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Boxing_Council
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-13 21:09:17
January 13 2017 21:08 GMT
#1060
UFC president Dana White has made an official offer for Floyd Mayweather to fight UFC lightweight champion Conor McGregor in a boxing match.

On Friday, White went on Colin Cowherd’s "The Herd" to offer Mayweather $25 million to fight McGregor in a boxing match, and he’s willing to sit and negotiate the split of the pay-per-view. White also said that McGregor would also be paid $25 million for the fight.

“I’ll tell you what Floyd, here’s a real offer, and I’m the guy who can actually make the offer, and I’m actually making a real offer,” White said. “We’ll pay you 25 million, we’ll pay Conor 25 million, and then well talk pay-per-view and a certain number. There is a real offer.”

http://www.mmafighting.com/2017/1/13/14268000/dana-white-offers-floyd-mayweather-jr-conor-mcgregor-25-million-each-for-boxing-match
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