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On May 04 2016 06:22 palexhur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 06:14 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 06:08 Rebs wrote:On May 04 2016 06:07 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 06:04 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 05:57 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 05:53 Pr0wler wrote:
BTW Guardiola did 1 sub in a game where his team loses. And his sub was Coman, with Gotze and Thiago still at the bench. Reminds me of Benitez when he was at Real. His lineup in the first leg also was a mistake once again (as with vs Real two years ago). His tactics are horribly bad when his style doesn't work. I mean, honestly speaking this Bayern side should have been eliminated two stages ago vs Juve. You mean Guardiola should be responsible for his players' stupid mistakes? Like the goal tonight came from Boateng trying I don't know what around the center of the pitch. You guys are so harsh on him, I might be a fanboy, but you guys are just too much. I didn't see any big tactical mistake in either game. He explained why he didn't field Müller in the first game and it made sense (you can disagree, but I don't think it was a big mistake). In the second game, his team was doing great and I don't think Thiago or a bad Götze would have changed anything. People blamed him for not fielding Müller but then he's the one missing the penalty! I haven't seen any of these critics BEFORE the game, when the line-up is already known. People nowadays bash tactics AFTER the game. Where's was your expertise before the game? What if Müller scored the penalty and Bayern wins 3-0 or something? It would have only been thanks to the players? Come on... Pep cannot be in Lewandowski's shoes to make him aim right! You have never seen me criticise Guardiola before a game? wut. I do it before, during and after a game. And have been proven right three times in three years.  Also any coach in the world not fielding Müller deserves to be criticised. He is a world class player, sometimes even more pivotal to his team than Messi. Dude you shit on him even when he wins. Being a consistent cunt doesnt make you good at predictions lol. And I doubt anyone takes you seriously All in all though he hasnt been able to deliver a CL which would be a massive failure. but not being able to win a CL in 3 years isnt the biggest of travesties either. Atleast for this tie (the previous 2 he was bested handily) the players let him down quite a bit. Exactly. I criticise him even when he wins. This actually makes me the most sound critic of Guardiola. I am not blinded when he gets lucky but I predict when he fails. Just because you two are fanboys of him doesn't make me a cunt... That is the problem with blind fans, they just think that everything Guardiola does is right, if they win it is Guardiola work, but when they lose it is his players, I advise you not to argue with blind fans.
Same as the problem with blind haters.
On May 04 2016 06:23 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 06:20 Rebs wrote:On May 04 2016 06:14 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 06:08 Rebs wrote:On May 04 2016 06:07 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 06:04 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 05:57 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 05:53 Pr0wler wrote:
BTW Guardiola did 1 sub in a game where his team loses. And his sub was Coman, with Gotze and Thiago still at the bench. Reminds me of Benitez when he was at Real. His lineup in the first leg also was a mistake once again (as with vs Real two years ago). His tactics are horribly bad when his style doesn't work. I mean, honestly speaking this Bayern side should have been eliminated two stages ago vs Juve. You mean Guardiola should be responsible for his players' stupid mistakes? Like the goal tonight came from Boateng trying I don't know what around the center of the pitch. You guys are so harsh on him, I might be a fanboy, but you guys are just too much. I didn't see any big tactical mistake in either game. He explained why he didn't field Müller in the first game and it made sense (you can disagree, but I don't think it was a big mistake). In the second game, his team was doing great and I don't think Thiago or a bad Götze would have changed anything. People blamed him for not fielding Müller but then he's the one missing the penalty! I haven't seen any of these critics BEFORE the game, when the line-up is already known. People nowadays bash tactics AFTER the game. Where's was your expertise before the game? What if Müller scored the penalty and Bayern wins 3-0 or something? It would have only been thanks to the players? Come on... Pep cannot be in Lewandowski's shoes to make him aim right! You have never seen me criticise Guardiola before a game? wut. I do it before, during and after a game. And have been proven right three times in three years. Also any coach in the world not fielding Müller deserves to be criticised. He is a world class player, sometimes even more pivotal to his team than Messi. Dude you shit on him even when he wins. Being a consistent cunt doesnt make you good at predictions lol. And I doubt anyone takes you seriously All in all though he hasnt been able to deliver a CL which would be a massive failure. but not being able to win a CL in 3 years isnt the biggest of travesties either. Atleast for this tie (the previous 2 he was bested handily) the players let him down quite a bit. Exactly. I criticise him even when he wins. This actually makes me the most sound critic of Guardiola. I am not blinded when he gets lucky but I predict when he fails. Just because you two are fanboys of him doesn't make me a cunt... No, sound criticism is based on analysis and fact. You have shown little abilty to do either. its usually "OMG SUBS FAIL, OMG TIKI TAKA fail. OMG HEYNCKES PLEASE COME SAVE BAYERN" Thats pretty much it. And someone who consistently behaves in that manner is usually described as a cunt. I have always explained why Guardiola sucks in my posts. Also with your third statement you have just proven that you don't read my posts at all. Why would I want Heynkes back at Bayern? o.O I don't want Bayern to win stuff. I am a BVB fan who also criticises his team when it loses or fails (which some people never do of their team in this thread).
My third statement was rather obvious hyperbole, hence the caps.
Its not hard to read your posts bro.
They are literally like one line 90 percent of the time. Usually an attempt at some clever quip that you seem to think makes it sound like you know what you are talking about as if its gospel
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On May 04 2016 06:13 palexhur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 06:04 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 05:57 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 05:53 Pr0wler wrote:
BTW Guardiola did 1 sub in a game where his team loses. And his sub was Coman, with Gotze and Thiago still at the bench. Reminds me of Benitez when he was at Real. His lineup in the first leg also was a mistake once again (as with vs Real two years ago). His tactics are horribly bad when his style doesn't work. I mean, honestly speaking this Bayern side should have been eliminated two stages ago vs Juve. You mean Guardiola should be responsible for his players' stupid mistakes? Like the goal tonight came from Boateng trying I don't know what around the center of the pitch. You guys are so harsh on him, I might be a fanboy, but you guys are just too much. I didn't see any big tactical mistake in either game. He explained why he didn't field Müller in the first game and it made sense (you can disagree, but I don't think it was a big mistake). In the second game, his team was doing great and I don't think Thiago or a bad Götze would have changed anything. People blamed him for not fielding Müller but then he's the one missing the penalty! I haven't seen any of these critics BEFORE the game, when the line-up was already known. People nowadays bash tactics AFTER the game. Where was your expertise before the game? What if Müller scored the penalty and Bayern wins 3-0 or something? It would have only been thanks to the players? Come on... Pep cannot be in Lewandowski's shoes to make him aim right! Guardiola must be responsible for the big failure that was his system in this Bayern for three years in a row, gogo Tiki Taka, and I am a Barcelona fan, but you cant put these players to play like that, in a series of 180 minutes, we only saw a powerful Bayern for 45 mins, his substitutions, his line ups have been a disaster all the Champions, and yeah for me Juve should have been defeated this Bayern.
You saw tiki-taka in this series? I saw a team that tried everything to score, crosses, long-distance shots, ...
Anyway, winning the CL is a tough task, and you need luck (Chelsea semi-final and finals run, Iniesta's goal in Stamford Bridge, Ramos header during added time, ...). I don't remember exactly every game, but I remember context. When Bayern lost to Real 2 years ago, they played an OK first game and conceded a goal around the end of the game on a counter-attack, then conceded 2 Ramos goals in 20 minutes and it was GG.
Against Barça, they had half their team injured and Barça was unstoppable. They managed to hold until the 70th and then there was the Messi show.
And now Atletico scores on their only opportunities in both games and they didn't get enough luck to score more goals, although they deserved to.
Individually, Bayern's team isn't the best in the world. It's one of the best in the world, they're not alone there. You can't expect them to win the CL every year, it's impossible. When your objectives are to win the treble and you don't, you failed. But the objectives are a bit unreasonable x)
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On May 04 2016 06:24 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 06:22 palexhur wrote:On May 04 2016 06:14 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 06:08 Rebs wrote:On May 04 2016 06:07 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 06:04 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 05:57 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 05:53 Pr0wler wrote:
BTW Guardiola did 1 sub in a game where his team loses. And his sub was Coman, with Gotze and Thiago still at the bench. Reminds me of Benitez when he was at Real. His lineup in the first leg also was a mistake once again (as with vs Real two years ago). His tactics are horribly bad when his style doesn't work. I mean, honestly speaking this Bayern side should have been eliminated two stages ago vs Juve. You mean Guardiola should be responsible for his players' stupid mistakes? Like the goal tonight came from Boateng trying I don't know what around the center of the pitch. You guys are so harsh on him, I might be a fanboy, but you guys are just too much. I didn't see any big tactical mistake in either game. He explained why he didn't field Müller in the first game and it made sense (you can disagree, but I don't think it was a big mistake). In the second game, his team was doing great and I don't think Thiago or a bad Götze would have changed anything. People blamed him for not fielding Müller but then he's the one missing the penalty! I haven't seen any of these critics BEFORE the game, when the line-up is already known. People nowadays bash tactics AFTER the game. Where's was your expertise before the game? What if Müller scored the penalty and Bayern wins 3-0 or something? It would have only been thanks to the players? Come on... Pep cannot be in Lewandowski's shoes to make him aim right! You have never seen me criticise Guardiola before a game? wut. I do it before, during and after a game. And have been proven right three times in three years. Also any coach in the world not fielding Müller deserves to be criticised. He is a world class player, sometimes even more pivotal to his team than Messi. Dude you shit on him even when he wins. Being a consistent cunt doesnt make you good at predictions lol. And I doubt anyone takes you seriously All in all though he hasnt been able to deliver a CL which would be a massive failure. but not being able to win a CL in 3 years isnt the biggest of travesties either. Atleast for this tie (the previous 2 he was bested handily) the players let him down quite a bit. Exactly. I criticise him even when he wins. This actually makes me the most sound critic of Guardiola. I am not blinded when he gets lucky but I predict when he fails. Just because you two are fanboys of him doesn't make me a cunt... That is the problem with blind fans, they just think that everything Guardiola does is right, if they win it is Guardiola work, but when they lose it is his players, I advise you not to argue with blind fans. Same as the problem with blind haters.
I am a Barcelona fan as I said earlier, and I enjoyed a lot Guardiola Barca, but when you see in which kind of team he turned that OP team that was the Bayern in 2012-2013, the you would realize by facts that he was just a big failure.
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What "OP" team? What does that even mean? There's always a context. They were super hungry for titles after losing in finals twice in 3 years. But was that team stronger than say 2009 or 2015's Barça? I don't think so.
That same OP" team lost the league 2 years in a row against Dortmund...
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On May 04 2016 06:27 palexhur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 06:24 Rebs wrote:On May 04 2016 06:22 palexhur wrote:On May 04 2016 06:14 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 06:08 Rebs wrote:On May 04 2016 06:07 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 06:04 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 05:57 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 05:53 Pr0wler wrote:
BTW Guardiola did 1 sub in a game where his team loses. And his sub was Coman, with Gotze and Thiago still at the bench. Reminds me of Benitez when he was at Real. His lineup in the first leg also was a mistake once again (as with vs Real two years ago). His tactics are horribly bad when his style doesn't work. I mean, honestly speaking this Bayern side should have been eliminated two stages ago vs Juve. You mean Guardiola should be responsible for his players' stupid mistakes? Like the goal tonight came from Boateng trying I don't know what around the center of the pitch. You guys are so harsh on him, I might be a fanboy, but you guys are just too much. I didn't see any big tactical mistake in either game. He explained why he didn't field Müller in the first game and it made sense (you can disagree, but I don't think it was a big mistake). In the second game, his team was doing great and I don't think Thiago or a bad Götze would have changed anything. People blamed him for not fielding Müller but then he's the one missing the penalty! I haven't seen any of these critics BEFORE the game, when the line-up is already known. People nowadays bash tactics AFTER the game. Where's was your expertise before the game? What if Müller scored the penalty and Bayern wins 3-0 or something? It would have only been thanks to the players? Come on... Pep cannot be in Lewandowski's shoes to make him aim right! You have never seen me criticise Guardiola before a game? wut. I do it before, during and after a game. And have been proven right three times in three years. Also any coach in the world not fielding Müller deserves to be criticised. He is a world class player, sometimes even more pivotal to his team than Messi. Dude you shit on him even when he wins. Being a consistent cunt doesnt make you good at predictions lol. And I doubt anyone takes you seriously All in all though he hasnt been able to deliver a CL which would be a massive failure. but not being able to win a CL in 3 years isnt the biggest of travesties either. Atleast for this tie (the previous 2 he was bested handily) the players let him down quite a bit. Exactly. I criticise him even when he wins. This actually makes me the most sound critic of Guardiola. I am not blinded when he gets lucky but I predict when he fails. Just because you two are fanboys of him doesn't make me a cunt... That is the problem with blind fans, they just think that everything Guardiola does is right, if they win it is Guardiola work, but when they lose it is his players, I advise you not to argue with blind fans. Same as the problem with blind haters. I am a Barcelona fan as I said earlier, and I enjoyed a lot Guardiola Barca, but when you see in which kind of team he turned that OP team that was the Bayern in 2012-2013, the you would realize by facts that he was just a big failure.
So everyteam that doesnt repeat trebles is a team that was ruined eh ?
Geez by that standard Luis Enrique ruined last years OP Barca team.
Heynckes Bayern was good no doubt. But it wasnt like an all conquering demon that couldnt be stopped forever. Football ebbs and flows, form ebbs and flows.
That same year Klopp took a team to the final that nearly beat Bayern in that final. A team that wrecked Real so hard it was lolz. Where is that team now ?
Theres alot more that goes into it.
Heynckes had it easy. Win a treble. See ya later. Also a treble where 2 of out of 3 cups are auto wins if you could beat Dortmund.
Heynckes won RM a champions league too. And then had the most disastrous couple of years Real has ever had. And if you look at his career its a consistent theme. But no context doesnt exist.
Repeating success is the hardest thing you can do.
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So boys, what we sayin about Cakir?
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I am out, lets see how many champions wins Guardiola and his tiki taka with the City, becuase it is clear that he wasnt hire to win a Premier but the CL.
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On May 04 2016 06:34 palexhur wrote:
I am out, lets see how many champions wins Guardiola and his tiki taka with the City, becuase it is clear that he wasnt hire to win a Premier but the CL.
He was hired to win period. Not exactly like City is a monster in the premier league either.
think it would be an achievement just to win the PL.
I still dont get the bit about tiki taka. All top teams play a a possession style these days except less gifted squads. Its not just Spaniards no more.
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On May 04 2016 06:27 WillyWanker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 06:13 palexhur wrote:On May 04 2016 06:04 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 05:57 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 05:53 Pr0wler wrote:
BTW Guardiola did 1 sub in a game where his team loses. And his sub was Coman, with Gotze and Thiago still at the bench. Reminds me of Benitez when he was at Real. His lineup in the first leg also was a mistake once again (as with vs Real two years ago). His tactics are horribly bad when his style doesn't work. I mean, honestly speaking this Bayern side should have been eliminated two stages ago vs Juve. You mean Guardiola should be responsible for his players' stupid mistakes? Like the goal tonight came from Boateng trying I don't know what around the center of the pitch. You guys are so harsh on him, I might be a fanboy, but you guys are just too much. I didn't see any big tactical mistake in either game. He explained why he didn't field Müller in the first game and it made sense (you can disagree, but I don't think it was a big mistake). In the second game, his team was doing great and I don't think Thiago or a bad Götze would have changed anything. People blamed him for not fielding Müller but then he's the one missing the penalty! I haven't seen any of these critics BEFORE the game, when the line-up was already known. People nowadays bash tactics AFTER the game. Where was your expertise before the game? What if Müller scored the penalty and Bayern wins 3-0 or something? It would have only been thanks to the players? Come on... Pep cannot be in Lewandowski's shoes to make him aim right! Guardiola must be responsible for the big failure that was his system in this Bayern for three years in a row, gogo Tiki Taka, and I am a Barcelona fan, but you cant put these players to play like that, in a series of 180 minutes, we only saw a powerful Bayern for 45 mins, his substitutions, his line ups have been a disaster all the Champions, and yeah for me Juve should have been defeated this Bayern. You saw tiki-taka in this series? I saw a team that tried everything to score, crosses, long-distance shots, ... Anyway, winning the CL is a tough task, and you need luck (Chelsea semi-final and finals run, Iniesta's goal in Stamford Bridge, Ramos header during added time, ...). I don't remember exactly every game, but I remember context. When Bayern lost to Real 2 years ago, they played an OK first game and conceded a goal around the end of the game on a counter-attack, then conceded 2 Ramos goals in 20 minutes and it was GG. Against Barça, they had half their team injured and Barça was unstoppable. They managed to hold until the 70th and then there was the Messi show. And now Atletico scores on their only opportunities in both games and they didn't get enough luck to score more goals, although they deserved to. Individually, Bayern's team isn't the best in the world. It's one of the best in the world, they're not alone there. You can't expect them to win the CL every year, it's impossible. When your objectives are to win the treble and you don't, you failed. But the objectives are a bit unreasonable x)
Of course winning CL requires luck. And Pep Bayern certainly have gotten their lucky moments in the CL (just take Juve game for example). It's not even the not winning the title I criticise Pep most for. It's actually reaching the final or coming close to.
Can you honestly say Pep has been unlucky in his three CL semifinals with Bayern? No, he was beaten soundly by superior coaches/teams. And even when he gets lucky (in this season) he once again failed to reach the final.
Bayern has never had the individual players strength when they won three years ago, it was a team effort. Guardiola has made quite a few mistakes with the Bayern side. Just remember the incident with Thiago and Bayern doc. What if Guardiola had listened to the doc and not risked Thiago injury back then?
The problem with you sometimes is that you make it sound as if Guardiola has done nothing wrong in his time at Bayern. All his success he gained there was on the back of individual players. Bundesliga has become a one-man show since Bayern stopped playing stupid (like in the 2000s). The only competition where Guardiola faced any opposition (CL) he has been defeated.
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On May 04 2016 06:40 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 06:27 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 06:13 palexhur wrote:On May 04 2016 06:04 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 05:57 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 05:53 Pr0wler wrote:
BTW Guardiola did 1 sub in a game where his team loses. And his sub was Coman, with Gotze and Thiago still at the bench. Reminds me of Benitez when he was at Real. His lineup in the first leg also was a mistake once again (as with vs Real two years ago). His tactics are horribly bad when his style doesn't work. I mean, honestly speaking this Bayern side should have been eliminated two stages ago vs Juve. You mean Guardiola should be responsible for his players' stupid mistakes? Like the goal tonight came from Boateng trying I don't know what around the center of the pitch. You guys are so harsh on him, I might be a fanboy, but you guys are just too much. I didn't see any big tactical mistake in either game. He explained why he didn't field Müller in the first game and it made sense (you can disagree, but I don't think it was a big mistake). In the second game, his team was doing great and I don't think Thiago or a bad Götze would have changed anything. People blamed him for not fielding Müller but then he's the one missing the penalty! I haven't seen any of these critics BEFORE the game, when the line-up was already known. People nowadays bash tactics AFTER the game. Where was your expertise before the game? What if Müller scored the penalty and Bayern wins 3-0 or something? It would have only been thanks to the players? Come on... Pep cannot be in Lewandowski's shoes to make him aim right! Guardiola must be responsible for the big failure that was his system in this Bayern for three years in a row, gogo Tiki Taka, and I am a Barcelona fan, but you cant put these players to play like that, in a series of 180 minutes, we only saw a powerful Bayern for 45 mins, his substitutions, his line ups have been a disaster all the Champions, and yeah for me Juve should have been defeated this Bayern. You saw tiki-taka in this series? I saw a team that tried everything to score, crosses, long-distance shots, ... Anyway, winning the CL is a tough task, and you need luck (Chelsea semi-final and finals run, Iniesta's goal in Stamford Bridge, Ramos header during added time, ...). I don't remember exactly every game, but I remember context. When Bayern lost to Real 2 years ago, they played an OK first game and conceded a goal around the end of the game on a counter-attack, then conceded 2 Ramos goals in 20 minutes and it was GG. Against Barça, they had half their team injured and Barça was unstoppable. They managed to hold until the 70th and then there was the Messi show. And now Atletico scores on their only opportunities in both games and they didn't get enough luck to score more goals, although they deserved to. Individually, Bayern's team isn't the best in the world. It's one of the best in the world, they're not alone there. You can't expect them to win the CL every year, it's impossible. When your objectives are to win the treble and you don't, you failed. But the objectives are a bit unreasonable x) Of course winning CL requires luck. And Pep Bayern certainly have gotten their lucky moments in the CL (just take Juve game for example). It's not even the not winning the title I criticise Pep most for. It's actually reaching the final or coming close to. Can you honestly say Pep has been unlucky in his three CL semifinals with Bayern? No, he was beaten soundly by superior coaches/teams. And even when he gets lucky (in this season) he once again failed to reach the final. Bayern has never had the individual players strength when they won three years ago, it was a team effort. Guardiola has made quite a few mistakes with the Bayern side. Just remember the incident with Thiago and Bayern doc. What if Guardiola had listened to the doc and not risked Thiago injury back then? The problem with you sometimes is that you make it sound as if Guardiola has done nothing wrong in his time at Bayern. All his success he gained there was on the back of individual players. Bundesliga has become a one-man show since Bayern stopped playing stupid (like in the 2000s). The only competition where Guardiola faced any opposition (CL) he has been defeated.
Yes reaching the semis of the CL 3 years in a row is quite the disaster.
Most other top managers win the CL every other year. ohh waiittt..
The guy has been coaching for 7 seasons lol. In managers terms thats pretty much nothing.
All coaches make mistakes, all the time. Just that his are under the microscope alot more it seems. Image being in that position. Some asshole always calls you out on every little thing you get wrong as if you banged his mom or something.. Must be nice to have to deal with that.
He still has some ways to get before he absolutely runs teams into the ground ala Mou, but ive never really seen much criticism of there tbh. Then it was the players. You see the double standard here ?
Not with the same kind of laser focused venom that Guardiola seems to get. And poor dude is as nice as it gets. Doesnt fuck with no one and just wants to coach football.
Also give me a break. Horse Placenta ?
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On May 04 2016 06:48 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 06:40 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 06:27 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 06:13 palexhur wrote:On May 04 2016 06:04 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 05:57 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 05:53 Pr0wler wrote:
BTW Guardiola did 1 sub in a game where his team loses. And his sub was Coman, with Gotze and Thiago still at the bench. Reminds me of Benitez when he was at Real. His lineup in the first leg also was a mistake once again (as with vs Real two years ago). His tactics are horribly bad when his style doesn't work. I mean, honestly speaking this Bayern side should have been eliminated two stages ago vs Juve. You mean Guardiola should be responsible for his players' stupid mistakes? Like the goal tonight came from Boateng trying I don't know what around the center of the pitch. You guys are so harsh on him, I might be a fanboy, but you guys are just too much. I didn't see any big tactical mistake in either game. He explained why he didn't field Müller in the first game and it made sense (you can disagree, but I don't think it was a big mistake). In the second game, his team was doing great and I don't think Thiago or a bad Götze would have changed anything. People blamed him for not fielding Müller but then he's the one missing the penalty! I haven't seen any of these critics BEFORE the game, when the line-up was already known. People nowadays bash tactics AFTER the game. Where was your expertise before the game? What if Müller scored the penalty and Bayern wins 3-0 or something? It would have only been thanks to the players? Come on... Pep cannot be in Lewandowski's shoes to make him aim right! Guardiola must be responsible for the big failure that was his system in this Bayern for three years in a row, gogo Tiki Taka, and I am a Barcelona fan, but you cant put these players to play like that, in a series of 180 minutes, we only saw a powerful Bayern for 45 mins, his substitutions, his line ups have been a disaster all the Champions, and yeah for me Juve should have been defeated this Bayern. You saw tiki-taka in this series? I saw a team that tried everything to score, crosses, long-distance shots, ... Anyway, winning the CL is a tough task, and you need luck (Chelsea semi-final and finals run, Iniesta's goal in Stamford Bridge, Ramos header during added time, ...). I don't remember exactly every game, but I remember context. When Bayern lost to Real 2 years ago, they played an OK first game and conceded a goal around the end of the game on a counter-attack, then conceded 2 Ramos goals in 20 minutes and it was GG. Against Barça, they had half their team injured and Barça was unstoppable. They managed to hold until the 70th and then there was the Messi show. And now Atletico scores on their only opportunities in both games and they didn't get enough luck to score more goals, although they deserved to. Individually, Bayern's team isn't the best in the world. It's one of the best in the world, they're not alone there. You can't expect them to win the CL every year, it's impossible. When your objectives are to win the treble and you don't, you failed. But the objectives are a bit unreasonable x) Of course winning CL requires luck. And Pep Bayern certainly have gotten their lucky moments in the CL (just take Juve game for example). It's not even the not winning the title I criticise Pep most for. It's actually reaching the final or coming close to. Can you honestly say Pep has been unlucky in his three CL semifinals with Bayern? No, he was beaten soundly by superior coaches/teams. And even when he gets lucky (in this season) he once again failed to reach the final. Bayern has never had the individual players strength when they won three years ago, it was a team effort. Guardiola has made quite a few mistakes with the Bayern side. Just remember the incident with Thiago and Bayern doc. What if Guardiola had listened to the doc and not risked Thiago injury back then? The problem with you sometimes is that you make it sound as if Guardiola has done nothing wrong in his time at Bayern. All his success he gained there was on the back of individual players. Bundesliga has become a one-man show since Bayern stopped playing stupid (like in the 2000s). The only competition where Guardiola faced any opposition (CL) he has been defeated. Yes reaching the semis of the CL 3 years in a row is quite the disaster. Most other top managers win the CL every other year. ohh waiittt.. The guy has been coaching for 7 seasons lol. In managers terms thats pretty much nothing. All coaches make mistakes, all the time. Just that his are under the microscope alot more it seems. Image being in that position. Some asshole always calls you out on every little thing you get wrong as if you banged his mom or something.. Must be nice to have to deal with that.
If I earned record blowing wages, I wouldn't mind...
Stop feeling sorry for millionaires, they deserve to be analysed thoroughly. If Messi and CRonaldo don't perform in one game, they deserve to get shit at. Look at their friggin wages. They earn more money in a month than we do in our lifetime.
Same with coaches, he demands millions - well then I demand the highest success from him. And this goes to any coach in a big club, not just Pep.
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On May 04 2016 06:53 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 06:48 Rebs wrote:On May 04 2016 06:40 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 06:27 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 06:13 palexhur wrote:On May 04 2016 06:04 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 05:57 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 05:53 Pr0wler wrote:
BTW Guardiola did 1 sub in a game where his team loses. And his sub was Coman, with Gotze and Thiago still at the bench. Reminds me of Benitez when he was at Real. His lineup in the first leg also was a mistake once again (as with vs Real two years ago). His tactics are horribly bad when his style doesn't work. I mean, honestly speaking this Bayern side should have been eliminated two stages ago vs Juve. You mean Guardiola should be responsible for his players' stupid mistakes? Like the goal tonight came from Boateng trying I don't know what around the center of the pitch. You guys are so harsh on him, I might be a fanboy, but you guys are just too much. I didn't see any big tactical mistake in either game. He explained why he didn't field Müller in the first game and it made sense (you can disagree, but I don't think it was a big mistake). In the second game, his team was doing great and I don't think Thiago or a bad Götze would have changed anything. People blamed him for not fielding Müller but then he's the one missing the penalty! I haven't seen any of these critics BEFORE the game, when the line-up was already known. People nowadays bash tactics AFTER the game. Where was your expertise before the game? What if Müller scored the penalty and Bayern wins 3-0 or something? It would have only been thanks to the players? Come on... Pep cannot be in Lewandowski's shoes to make him aim right! Guardiola must be responsible for the big failure that was his system in this Bayern for three years in a row, gogo Tiki Taka, and I am a Barcelona fan, but you cant put these players to play like that, in a series of 180 minutes, we only saw a powerful Bayern for 45 mins, his substitutions, his line ups have been a disaster all the Champions, and yeah for me Juve should have been defeated this Bayern. You saw tiki-taka in this series? I saw a team that tried everything to score, crosses, long-distance shots, ... Anyway, winning the CL is a tough task, and you need luck (Chelsea semi-final and finals run, Iniesta's goal in Stamford Bridge, Ramos header during added time, ...). I don't remember exactly every game, but I remember context. When Bayern lost to Real 2 years ago, they played an OK first game and conceded a goal around the end of the game on a counter-attack, then conceded 2 Ramos goals in 20 minutes and it was GG. Against Barça, they had half their team injured and Barça was unstoppable. They managed to hold until the 70th and then there was the Messi show. And now Atletico scores on their only opportunities in both games and they didn't get enough luck to score more goals, although they deserved to. Individually, Bayern's team isn't the best in the world. It's one of the best in the world, they're not alone there. You can't expect them to win the CL every year, it's impossible. When your objectives are to win the treble and you don't, you failed. But the objectives are a bit unreasonable x) Of course winning CL requires luck. And Pep Bayern certainly have gotten their lucky moments in the CL (just take Juve game for example). It's not even the not winning the title I criticise Pep most for. It's actually reaching the final or coming close to. Can you honestly say Pep has been unlucky in his three CL semifinals with Bayern? No, he was beaten soundly by superior coaches/teams. And even when he gets lucky (in this season) he once again failed to reach the final. Bayern has never had the individual players strength when they won three years ago, it was a team effort. Guardiola has made quite a few mistakes with the Bayern side. Just remember the incident with Thiago and Bayern doc. What if Guardiola had listened to the doc and not risked Thiago injury back then? The problem with you sometimes is that you make it sound as if Guardiola has done nothing wrong in his time at Bayern. All his success he gained there was on the back of individual players. Bundesliga has become a one-man show since Bayern stopped playing stupid (like in the 2000s). The only competition where Guardiola faced any opposition (CL) he has been defeated. Yes reaching the semis of the CL 3 years in a row is quite the disaster. Most other top managers win the CL every other year. ohh waiittt.. The guy has been coaching for 7 seasons lol. In managers terms thats pretty much nothing. All coaches make mistakes, all the time. Just that his are under the microscope alot more it seems. Image being in that position. Some asshole always calls you out on every little thing you get wrong as if you banged his mom or something.. Must be nice to have to deal with that. If I earned record blowing wages, I wouldn't mind... Stop feeling sorry for millionaires, they deserve to be analysed thoroughly. If Messi and CRonaldo don't perform in one game, they deserve to get shit at. Look at their friggin wages. They earn more money in a month than we do in our lifetime. Same with coaches, he demands millions - well then I demand the highest success from him. And this goes to any coach in a big club, not just Pep.
But you arent analyzing, you are just shitting on him. There is a difference. Also they command these wages because the market allows them to. Not just because of how much money they want.
Money is like your other favourite thing to hate on, your tune is always the same. Thats not analysis. OMG these players make millions. Lets stop talking about them like they are human beings. That sir is again behaviour that qualifies one as a cunt.
Who the fuck are you to demand anything of anybody, anyway lol ?
is it coming out of your pocket ? And I dont care how much money I make, people being assholes get to you, its not a function of money, its a function of arrogance to ignore that sort of thing from people. Thats why Ronnie got no probs.
Not because hes rich. Which is fine. But most people no matter how much money they make dont enjoy having people just flat out shit on them, especially the ones who dont know what they are talking about.
And all players are human, the inhuman levels at which they perform is enough as it is. Unless there is an extended run of poor performance I dont see why they should get shit.
Again its not your fucking money they are getting. Why you so butthurt about it ?
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On May 04 2016 06:56 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 06:53 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 06:48 Rebs wrote:On May 04 2016 06:40 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 06:27 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 06:13 palexhur wrote:On May 04 2016 06:04 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 05:57 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 05:53 Pr0wler wrote:
BTW Guardiola did 1 sub in a game where his team loses. And his sub was Coman, with Gotze and Thiago still at the bench. Reminds me of Benitez when he was at Real. His lineup in the first leg also was a mistake once again (as with vs Real two years ago). His tactics are horribly bad when his style doesn't work. I mean, honestly speaking this Bayern side should have been eliminated two stages ago vs Juve. You mean Guardiola should be responsible for his players' stupid mistakes? Like the goal tonight came from Boateng trying I don't know what around the center of the pitch. You guys are so harsh on him, I might be a fanboy, but you guys are just too much. I didn't see any big tactical mistake in either game. He explained why he didn't field Müller in the first game and it made sense (you can disagree, but I don't think it was a big mistake). In the second game, his team was doing great and I don't think Thiago or a bad Götze would have changed anything. People blamed him for not fielding Müller but then he's the one missing the penalty! I haven't seen any of these critics BEFORE the game, when the line-up was already known. People nowadays bash tactics AFTER the game. Where was your expertise before the game? What if Müller scored the penalty and Bayern wins 3-0 or something? It would have only been thanks to the players? Come on... Pep cannot be in Lewandowski's shoes to make him aim right! Guardiola must be responsible for the big failure that was his system in this Bayern for three years in a row, gogo Tiki Taka, and I am a Barcelona fan, but you cant put these players to play like that, in a series of 180 minutes, we only saw a powerful Bayern for 45 mins, his substitutions, his line ups have been a disaster all the Champions, and yeah for me Juve should have been defeated this Bayern. You saw tiki-taka in this series? I saw a team that tried everything to score, crosses, long-distance shots, ... Anyway, winning the CL is a tough task, and you need luck (Chelsea semi-final and finals run, Iniesta's goal in Stamford Bridge, Ramos header during added time, ...). I don't remember exactly every game, but I remember context. When Bayern lost to Real 2 years ago, they played an OK first game and conceded a goal around the end of the game on a counter-attack, then conceded 2 Ramos goals in 20 minutes and it was GG. Against Barça, they had half their team injured and Barça was unstoppable. They managed to hold until the 70th and then there was the Messi show. And now Atletico scores on their only opportunities in both games and they didn't get enough luck to score more goals, although they deserved to. Individually, Bayern's team isn't the best in the world. It's one of the best in the world, they're not alone there. You can't expect them to win the CL every year, it's impossible. When your objectives are to win the treble and you don't, you failed. But the objectives are a bit unreasonable x) Of course winning CL requires luck. And Pep Bayern certainly have gotten their lucky moments in the CL (just take Juve game for example). It's not even the not winning the title I criticise Pep most for. It's actually reaching the final or coming close to. Can you honestly say Pep has been unlucky in his three CL semifinals with Bayern? No, he was beaten soundly by superior coaches/teams. And even when he gets lucky (in this season) he once again failed to reach the final. Bayern has never had the individual players strength when they won three years ago, it was a team effort. Guardiola has made quite a few mistakes with the Bayern side. Just remember the incident with Thiago and Bayern doc. What if Guardiola had listened to the doc and not risked Thiago injury back then? The problem with you sometimes is that you make it sound as if Guardiola has done nothing wrong in his time at Bayern. All his success he gained there was on the back of individual players. Bundesliga has become a one-man show since Bayern stopped playing stupid (like in the 2000s). The only competition where Guardiola faced any opposition (CL) he has been defeated. Yes reaching the semis of the CL 3 years in a row is quite the disaster. Most other top managers win the CL every other year. ohh waiittt.. The guy has been coaching for 7 seasons lol. In managers terms thats pretty much nothing. All coaches make mistakes, all the time. Just that his are under the microscope alot more it seems. Image being in that position. Some asshole always calls you out on every little thing you get wrong as if you banged his mom or something.. Must be nice to have to deal with that. If I earned record blowing wages, I wouldn't mind... Stop feeling sorry for millionaires, they deserve to be analysed thoroughly. If Messi and CRonaldo don't perform in one game, they deserve to get shit at. Look at their friggin wages. They earn more money in a month than we do in our lifetime. Same with coaches, he demands millions - well then I demand the highest success from him. And this goes to any coach in a big club, not just Pep. But you arent analyzing, you are just shitting on him. There is a difference. Also they command these wages because the market allows them to. Not just because of how much money they want. Money is like your other favourite thing to hate on, your tune is always the same. Thats not analysis. OMG these players make millions. Lets stop talking about them like they are human beings. That sir is again behaviour that qualifies one as a cunt. Who the fuck are you to demand anything of anybody, anyway lol ? is it coming out of your pocket ? And I dont care how much money I make, people being assholes get to you, its not a function of money, its a function of arrogance to ignore that sort of thing from people. Thats why Ronnie got no probs. Not because hes rich. Which is fine. But most people no matter how much money they make dont enjoy having people just flat out shit on them, especially the ones who dont know what they are talking about. And all players are human, the inhuman levels at which they perform is enough as it is. Unless there is an extended run of poor performance I dont see why they should get shit. Again its not your fucking money they are getting. Why you so butthurt about it ?
Of course it is my money. The European Union is practically paying the Spanish players their wages as Spain is a broke country. Who am I? I am part of people who carry this whole economic system by paying more than half of my wages to tax while getting nothing in return. Whereas real cunts like Messi cheat the tax system and avoid paying their sum of share.
Just consider, a person who cheats out money is a idol for you but someone like me is a asshole/cunt. Don't you see what is wrong there? lol
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On May 04 2016 06:48 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 06:40 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 06:27 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 06:13 palexhur wrote:On May 04 2016 06:04 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 05:57 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 05:53 Pr0wler wrote:
BTW Guardiola did 1 sub in a game where his team loses. And his sub was Coman, with Gotze and Thiago still at the bench. Reminds me of Benitez when he was at Real. His lineup in the first leg also was a mistake once again (as with vs Real two years ago). His tactics are horribly bad when his style doesn't work. I mean, honestly speaking this Bayern side should have been eliminated two stages ago vs Juve. You mean Guardiola should be responsible for his players' stupid mistakes? Like the goal tonight came from Boateng trying I don't know what around the center of the pitch. You guys are so harsh on him, I might be a fanboy, but you guys are just too much. I didn't see any big tactical mistake in either game. He explained why he didn't field Müller in the first game and it made sense (you can disagree, but I don't think it was a big mistake). In the second game, his team was doing great and I don't think Thiago or a bad Götze would have changed anything. People blamed him for not fielding Müller but then he's the one missing the penalty! I haven't seen any of these critics BEFORE the game, when the line-up was already known. People nowadays bash tactics AFTER the game. Where was your expertise before the game? What if Müller scored the penalty and Bayern wins 3-0 or something? It would have only been thanks to the players? Come on... Pep cannot be in Lewandowski's shoes to make him aim right! Guardiola must be responsible for the big failure that was his system in this Bayern for three years in a row, gogo Tiki Taka, and I am a Barcelona fan, but you cant put these players to play like that, in a series of 180 minutes, we only saw a powerful Bayern for 45 mins, his substitutions, his line ups have been a disaster all the Champions, and yeah for me Juve should have been defeated this Bayern. You saw tiki-taka in this series? I saw a team that tried everything to score, crosses, long-distance shots, ... Anyway, winning the CL is a tough task, and you need luck (Chelsea semi-final and finals run, Iniesta's goal in Stamford Bridge, Ramos header during added time, ...). I don't remember exactly every game, but I remember context. When Bayern lost to Real 2 years ago, they played an OK first game and conceded a goal around the end of the game on a counter-attack, then conceded 2 Ramos goals in 20 minutes and it was GG. Against Barça, they had half their team injured and Barça was unstoppable. They managed to hold until the 70th and then there was the Messi show. And now Atletico scores on their only opportunities in both games and they didn't get enough luck to score more goals, although they deserved to. Individually, Bayern's team isn't the best in the world. It's one of the best in the world, they're not alone there. You can't expect them to win the CL every year, it's impossible. When your objectives are to win the treble and you don't, you failed. But the objectives are a bit unreasonable x) Of course winning CL requires luck. And Pep Bayern certainly have gotten their lucky moments in the CL (just take Juve game for example). It's not even the not winning the title I criticise Pep most for. It's actually reaching the final or coming close to. Can you honestly say Pep has been unlucky in his three CL semifinals with Bayern? No, he was beaten soundly by superior coaches/teams. And even when he gets lucky (in this season) he once again failed to reach the final. Bayern has never had the individual players strength when they won three years ago, it was a team effort. Guardiola has made quite a few mistakes with the Bayern side. Just remember the incident with Thiago and Bayern doc. What if Guardiola had listened to the doc and not risked Thiago injury back then? The problem with you sometimes is that you make it sound as if Guardiola has done nothing wrong in his time at Bayern. All his success he gained there was on the back of individual players. Bundesliga has become a one-man show since Bayern stopped playing stupid (like in the 2000s). The only competition where Guardiola faced any opposition (CL) he has been defeated. Yes reaching the semis of the CL 3 years in a row is quite the disaster. Most other top managers win the CL every other year. ohh waiittt.. The guy has been coaching for 7 seasons lol. In managers terms thats pretty much nothing. All coaches make mistakes, all the time. Just that his are under the microscope alot more it seems. Image being in that position. Some asshole always calls you out on every little thing you get wrong as if you banged his mom or something.. Must be nice to have to deal with that. He still has some ways to get before he absolutely runs teams into the ground ala Mou, but ive never really seen much criticism of there tbh. Then it was the players. You see the double standard here ? Not with the same kind of laser focused venom that Guardiola seems to get. And poor dude is as nice as it gets. Doesnt fuck with no one and just wants to coach football. Also give me a break. Horse Placenta ?
There's plenty of criticism in being comprehensively and utterly defeated three years in a row by Spain's best 3 teams.
In each series he was completely outclassed by the opposing manager. Bayern isn't a team that settles (or should settle) for CL semi's. They completely own the Bundesliga and always will. No one gives a fuck if you win a bunch of Doubles with Bayern because that isn't very difficult. Pep was brought in to win the CL and that's it, and he failed to do it and failed hard.
Not that i'm a Bayern fan but considering the teams that are left... i'd be fine if there was like a power failure while the finals was going on so they just call it off and don't give anyone the title this year.
Athletico, Real or City? Ugh, might as well ask me if i want to be shot in the left or the right leg
Oh yea, forgot to mention this.
All Spanish finals?
/Yawn.
Skip to next year, please. Don't want to watch a bunch of bums throw themselves on the ground like they got shot and then act like thugs while the ref isn't watching for 90 minutes.
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European union is not paying for shit (the fuck), and you are not entlited to talk trash because you pay taxes in your country. So do i, fucking what.
Btw, i find most of your ramblings repetitive, boring and just pure hate aswell (not to say stupid, did you play on a team when you were a kid until juveniles, because if you did, it didn't seem to have taught you much). Funnily enough, i wanted Barcelona to lose and i still want them to lose La Liga because of Messi avoiding taxes (and iniesta, and neymar, etc, etc... reason why i don't pay for anything football related).
And to your question, both.
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On May 04 2016 07:43 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 06:48 Rebs wrote:On May 04 2016 06:40 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 06:27 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 06:13 palexhur wrote:On May 04 2016 06:04 WillyWanker wrote:On May 04 2016 05:57 sharkie wrote:On May 04 2016 05:53 Pr0wler wrote:
BTW Guardiola did 1 sub in a game where his team loses. And his sub was Coman, with Gotze and Thiago still at the bench. Reminds me of Benitez when he was at Real. His lineup in the first leg also was a mistake once again (as with vs Real two years ago). His tactics are horribly bad when his style doesn't work. I mean, honestly speaking this Bayern side should have been eliminated two stages ago vs Juve. You mean Guardiola should be responsible for his players' stupid mistakes? Like the goal tonight came from Boateng trying I don't know what around the center of the pitch. You guys are so harsh on him, I might be a fanboy, but you guys are just too much. I didn't see any big tactical mistake in either game. He explained why he didn't field Müller in the first game and it made sense (you can disagree, but I don't think it was a big mistake). In the second game, his team was doing great and I don't think Thiago or a bad Götze would have changed anything. People blamed him for not fielding Müller but then he's the one missing the penalty! I haven't seen any of these critics BEFORE the game, when the line-up was already known. People nowadays bash tactics AFTER the game. Where was your expertise before the game? What if Müller scored the penalty and Bayern wins 3-0 or something? It would have only been thanks to the players? Come on... Pep cannot be in Lewandowski's shoes to make him aim right! Guardiola must be responsible for the big failure that was his system in this Bayern for three years in a row, gogo Tiki Taka, and I am a Barcelona fan, but you cant put these players to play like that, in a series of 180 minutes, we only saw a powerful Bayern for 45 mins, his substitutions, his line ups have been a disaster all the Champions, and yeah for me Juve should have been defeated this Bayern. You saw tiki-taka in this series? I saw a team that tried everything to score, crosses, long-distance shots, ... Anyway, winning the CL is a tough task, and you need luck (Chelsea semi-final and finals run, Iniesta's goal in Stamford Bridge, Ramos header during added time, ...). I don't remember exactly every game, but I remember context. When Bayern lost to Real 2 years ago, they played an OK first game and conceded a goal around the end of the game on a counter-attack, then conceded 2 Ramos goals in 20 minutes and it was GG. Against Barça, they had half their team injured and Barça was unstoppable. They managed to hold until the 70th and then there was the Messi show. And now Atletico scores on their only opportunities in both games and they didn't get enough luck to score more goals, although they deserved to. Individually, Bayern's team isn't the best in the world. It's one of the best in the world, they're not alone there. You can't expect them to win the CL every year, it's impossible. When your objectives are to win the treble and you don't, you failed. But the objectives are a bit unreasonable x) Of course winning CL requires luck. And Pep Bayern certainly have gotten their lucky moments in the CL (just take Juve game for example). It's not even the not winning the title I criticise Pep most for. It's actually reaching the final or coming close to. Can you honestly say Pep has been unlucky in his three CL semifinals with Bayern? No, he was beaten soundly by superior coaches/teams. And even when he gets lucky (in this season) he once again failed to reach the final. Bayern has never had the individual players strength when they won three years ago, it was a team effort. Guardiola has made quite a few mistakes with the Bayern side. Just remember the incident with Thiago and Bayern doc. What if Guardiola had listened to the doc and not risked Thiago injury back then? The problem with you sometimes is that you make it sound as if Guardiola has done nothing wrong in his time at Bayern. All his success he gained there was on the back of individual players. Bundesliga has become a one-man show since Bayern stopped playing stupid (like in the 2000s). The only competition where Guardiola faced any opposition (CL) he has been defeated. Yes reaching the semis of the CL 3 years in a row is quite the disaster. Most other top managers win the CL every other year. ohh waiittt.. The guy has been coaching for 7 seasons lol. In managers terms thats pretty much nothing. All coaches make mistakes, all the time. Just that his are under the microscope alot more it seems. Image being in that position. Some asshole always calls you out on every little thing you get wrong as if you banged his mom or something.. Must be nice to have to deal with that. He still has some ways to get before he absolutely runs teams into the ground ala Mou, but ive never really seen much criticism of there tbh. Then it was the players. You see the double standard here ? Not with the same kind of laser focused venom that Guardiola seems to get. And poor dude is as nice as it gets. Doesnt fuck with no one and just wants to coach football. Also give me a break. Horse Placenta ? There's plenty of criticism in being comprehensively and utterly defeated three years in a row by Spain's best 3 teams. In each series he was completely outclassed by the opposing manager. Bayern isn't a team that settles (or should settle) for CL semi's. They completely own the Bundesliga and always will. No one gives a fuck if you win a bunch of Doubles with Bayern because that isn't very difficult. Pep was brought in to win the CL and that's it, and he failed to do it and failed hard. Show nested quote +Not that i'm a Bayern fan but considering the teams that are left... i'd be fine if there was like a power failure while the finals was going on so they just call it off and don't give anyone the title this year.
Athletico, Real or City? Ugh, might as well ask me if i want to be shot in the left or the right leg Oh yea, forgot to mention this. All Spanish finals? /Yawn. Skip to next year, please. Don't want to watch a bunch of bums throw themselves on the ground like they got shot and then act like thugs while the ref isn't watching for 90 minutes.
Sure there is plenty of room for criticism. But at the end of the day you cannot discount everything he HAS done. Pep wasnt brought in to win the CL. He was brought in to win everything or rather keep winning everything. I dont care how good your team is, its not exactly like its standard fare for teams to keep winning the CL once every few years. Is it good enough on his part. Ofcourse not. Hes got 1 of the 3 best squads on the planet. But you see the point there. One of the 3 best squads. Not THE best. The first two times he got thoroughly bested. No doubt and so were his teams. This one was fine margins, very fine.
He could hang around and maybe win a couple in the next 4 years, you never know. It wouldnt be unusual to have a dry spell either. But he chooses not to do that and that gives him a very small window to be successful
Its funny if he had wanted to stay people wouldve called for his head. That he has chosen to leave. Now he doesnt care. You cant win with haters. And unless people can start discussing things in a manner that appreciate the achievements of others instead of just calling them "lucky" its hard to take opinions seriously.
Oh and by the by..
Its a shame you dont like watching those bums because its rather obvious that at the moment those bums are the most superior footballers on the planet. As is proven time and time and time and time and time.......... you get it.
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Sorry for stealing your money, for paying wages, lol. That is the most retarded thing that I have seen, btw.
I will only say:
Spanish clubs now won 13 of 13 knockout ties vs non Spanish clubs this season. 44 of 47 in last three seasons. 44 of 47.
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On May 04 2016 16:27 haitike wrote:
Sorry for stealing your money, for paying wages, lol. That is the most retarded thing that I have seen, btw.
I will only say:
Spanish clubs now won 13 of 13 knockout ties vs non Spanish clubs this season. 44 of 47 in last three seasons. 44 of 47.
Ye i think we already established that La Liga is the strongest league, stop rubbing it in!
Leicester will teach you some manners next season :D
And the whole Pep discussion... the last 30 commentaries in this thread repeat the same shit over and over again.
Why don't you agree to disagree and move on since you clearly will never be on the same side
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Yo, just like in FIFA, this thread deals the same way. Do not bring politics into football jesus, do not bring that crap in here.
Feel free to debate Pep is good bad amazing the best ever, but do not start debating political issues, views and EU. Good lord this stops now or Yoshi will come!
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On May 04 2016 16:27 haitike wrote:
Sorry for stealing your money, for paying wages, lol. That is the most retarded thing that I have seen, btw.
I will only say:
Spanish clubs now won 13 of 13 knockout ties vs non Spanish clubs this season. 44 of 47 in last three seasons. 44 of 47.
That's crazy x)
For the sake of the European Cup attractiveness, I hope we don't have 2x2 Spanish finals. Real-Atletico would be nice for the drama, but I don't think people that don't watch la Liga would be so interested; I also think it would be more spectacle than City-Atletico since Real doesn't speculate much. In the other cup, Liverpool-Sevilla would be nice.
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