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On March 28 2018 23:05 VHbb wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2018 11:29 phyre112 wrote:On March 27 2018 23:18 VHbb wrote:thanks phyre, that's good advice about the breakfast -- I'm trying to do as suggested and this couple of days is feeling actually better.. for now I just combined my two typical breakfast together and I have 2 eggs + some yogurt with oatmeal and a banana (+coffee).. it's enough to resist until lunch and when I have rugby training in the evening I get a good snack mid afternoon (again like yogurt + banana.. this still feels a little light, probably I should add some carbs, but it's harder since I'm usually at work) p.s. played my first match this weekend, man my stamina is shit..  i was dying at the end I find the better my cardio is the harder I push out of the gate and I wind up feeling exactly the same in the 80th minute anyway. Scrums are hard. Scrums are hard indeed for a 75kg flanker like me, either I am very fast and I can be present in several rucks, and go to cover outside quickly -- or otherwise I wouldn't play much eheheh
Now imagine being a 110kg second row.
On March 29 2018 00:23 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2018 22:51 Philozovic wrote:
Overcoming gravity has been writen by a dude chilling on TL ?!
I read it didn't even know that Eshlow was the originator of the original thread iirc. I ended up reselling my copy of Overcoming Gravity. It was a good read though, I just ended up not pursuing the bodyweight as much and it seemed to have decent resale numbers 
Energies was the originator of the first thread. Eshlow turned it into an annual thing and provided us a lot of resources for beginners.
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The thread being an annual thing ended with him as well. This is still the 2015 thread.
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On March 29 2018 13:13 RvB wrote:
The thread being an annual thing ended with him as well. This is still the 2015 thread.
It pretty much stopped being an annual thing for the couple years we had our own forum iirc.
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Pretty sure i fucked my AC joint last week. Gonna see what the physio says tomorrow though 🙁
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I'm so bad at trying to cut. Binging is my mortal enemy. ;(
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Stay strong my friend. Don't put yourself in compromising situations.
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On April 04 2018 03:15 L_Master wrote:
I'm so bad at trying to cut. Binging is my mortal enemy. ;(
I understand you
the only thing that works for me is to *not* have shitty food at home
I just threw out some cookies I got from a friend a couple of days ago because I *know* that the first time I'll be a bit over-tired, I'll binge on the whole bag and feel terrible
stay strong and focused 
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On April 04 2018 03:15 L_Master wrote:
I'm so bad at trying to cut. Binging is my mortal enemy. ;(
Alcohol or cookies?
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On April 06 2018 01:26 Jerubaal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2018 03:15 L_Master wrote:
I'm so bad at trying to cut. Binging is my mortal enemy. ;( Alcohol or cookies?
Not alcohol. I'm hardly a drinker at all. Haven't picked up a taste for beer, and basically did myself in for hard liquor very early into college after having been straight laced in HS and going to my first party and thinking I needed to get caught up...knocked back 5 double shots of 151, plus a beer or two. Not realizing that 151 was almost double ABV and that double shots were a thing. Badddddd night.
It's basically any and all junk food. I'll often crave a combination of sweets and salty stuff. So I'll go and buy like a bag of sun chips and a box of cookies and end up downing the whole thing with a soda...and you're easily looking at 3k calories right there which is obviously a massage surplus.
On the plus side I eat pretty damn healthy outside of that, solid balanced diet with good protein and high fruit/vegatable content. But, it only takes a binge or two like that per week to destroy any progress.
On April 04 2018 05:46 VHbb wrote:
I understand you
the only thing that works for me is to *not* have shitty food at home
Definitely helps.
Problem is I will go to the store at 12:00am and buy this stuff sometimes. When I get really motivated and on top of everything I can usually put in a few good months, but I've never quite gotten lean. I've spent 80% of the last 10 years around 148-155, with two trips up to about 175 (periods where I basically stopped exercising), plus this current one up around 77-78kg, but that was intentional and more controlled surplus for gaining muscle.
Also had one trip down to 64kg, which is the leanest I got, probably getting close to 10% BF, but I quickly went back up to 70kg within a couple months after a period of like 4 colds in 5 weeks and not giving a fuck.
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I dont eat any sugar, very rarely alcohol, almost no pure starch food like white bread or pasta and still have to be very cautious about how much I eat, occasionally going hungry. Well I eat potatoes quite often but that is probably the worst. I have no idea how people that regularly drink soft drinks or eat cookies etc can hold their weight.
I mean my weight is where I want it but I have to be on top of it all the time and am very restricted in what I can eat, which is annoying.
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Warm is lean meant with vegetables and often potatoes.
Cold is whole grain rye bread with mostly lean meat and sometimes cheese.
Drinking only water / tea.
What I am missing most atm from what I cut is red wine. 
Has to be said I am sitting on my ass most of the day though.
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On April 06 2018 15:23 Redox wrote:Warm is lean meant with vegetables and often potatoes. Cold is whole grain rye bread with mostly lean meat and sometimes cheese. Drinking only water / tea. What I am missing most atm from what I cut is red wine. Has to be said I am sitting on my ass most of the day though.
Hard to say without knowing exact specifics. Some people are just unlucky. Some people are also bullshitters. You shouldn't have to be so drastic unless you have a majorly fucked up system.
How long do you guys do a program? I'm in the 3rd round of my 4 week program and I don't know if I should switch it up at all.
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Man, one of my lifting buddies/training partners had it bad today. After our third set of deficit pulls he was not feeling good. Went to sit down in the corner, and over the course of the next 5 minutes got more out of it, saying at the worst he lost most of his vision and hearing, and I saw him wretch once. Went from sitting to laying down and started to feel better, making a gradual recovery over the next 10'.
We both decided he should probably head home, so he called his roommate to bring him home and was feeling better. The caveat here is that his CV shape is quite poor, and he hadn't eat anything yet, having only been up for about an hour.
I know it's not crazy uncommon to be lightheaded or even passout immediately after a deadlift but this was different. Is this the kind of thing you guys have heard of before, or do we need to be extra attentive?
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On April 08 2018 13:38 L_Master wrote:
Man, one of my lifting buddies/training partners had it bad today. After our third set of deficit pulls he was not feeling good. Went to sit down in the corner, and over the course of the next 5 minutes got more out of it, saying at the worst he lost most of his vision and hearing, and I saw him wretch once. Went from sitting to laying down and started to feel better, making a gradual recovery over the next 10'.
We both decided he should probably head home, so he called his roommate to bring him home and was feeling better. The caveat here is that his CV shape is quite poor, and he hadn't eat anything yet, having only been up for about an hour.
I know it's not crazy uncommon to be lightheaded or even passout immediately after a deadlift but this was different. Is this the kind of thing you guys have heard of before, or do we need to be extra attentive?
saying at the worst he lost most of his vision and hearing,
Was this figurative speech for being dizzy/close to pass out, or was he fully conscius and couldn't actually see?
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During my training in a weightlifting / powerlifting club the last few years, I have never seen anyone pass out or be completely gone after a Deadlift. Dizzyness is normal, but that passes after a minute or so.
Probably has to do more with him than with the Deadlift itself.
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I've had episodes like that, usually after squatting but can be with any strenuous exercise. It used to be a yearly ritual in PE and TKD. And, yes, your eyesight can go black for a second and your hearing will turn into seashells.
I've asked around and tried to research it, but I haven't seen any real information about it. It almost certainly has something to do with blood pressure, considering how it affects your vision and hearing. I don't know of any real way to prevent it other than to not go quite so hard. He should be fine next time.
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On April 08 2018 13:38 L_Master wrote:
Man, one of my lifting buddies/training partners had it bad today. After our third set of deficit pulls he was not feeling good. Went to sit down in the corner, and over the course of the next 5 minutes got more out of it, saying at the worst he lost most of his vision and hearing, and I saw him wretch once. Went from sitting to laying down and started to feel better, making a gradual recovery over the next 10'.
We both decided he should probably head home, so he called his roommate to bring him home and was feeling better. The caveat here is that his CV shape is quite poor, and he hadn't eat anything yet, having only been up for about an hour.
I know it's not crazy uncommon to be lightheaded or even passout immediately after a deadlift but this was different. Is this the kind of thing you guys have heard of before, or do we need to be extra attentive?
From my personal experience, it is most likely due to the body going into shock due to low blood pressure and/or low blood glucose level. Or just dehydration.
Make sure your friend take something sweet or a protein shake (after puking) and he is breathing properly. Do not lie down on the floor as it messes with your breathing. Lean against a wall if he cant prod himself up.
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On April 08 2018 14:53 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2018 13:38 L_Master wrote:
Man, one of my lifting buddies/training partners had it bad today. After our third set of deficit pulls he was not feeling good. Went to sit down in the corner, and over the course of the next 5 minutes got more out of it, saying at the worst he lost most of his vision and hearing, and I saw him wretch once. Went from sitting to laying down and started to feel better, making a gradual recovery over the next 10'.
We both decided he should probably head home, so he called his roommate to bring him home and was feeling better. The caveat here is that his CV shape is quite poor, and he hadn't eat anything yet, having only been up for about an hour.
I know it's not crazy uncommon to be lightheaded or even passout immediately after a deadlift but this was different. Is this the kind of thing you guys have heard of before, or do we need to be extra attentive? saying at the worst he lost most of his vision and hearing,Was this figurative speech for being dizzy/close to pass out, or was he fully conscius and couldn't actually see?
From what he described it was close to passing it out. Gradual onset though. Developed several minutes after his last rep.
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On April 06 2018 06:57 Redox wrote:
I dont eat any sugar, very rarely alcohol, almost no pure starch food like white bread or pasta and still have to be very cautious about how much I eat, occasionally going hungry. Well I eat potatoes quite often but that is probably the worst. I have no idea how people that regularly drink soft drinks or eat cookies etc can hold their weight.
I mean my weight is where I want it but I have to be on top of it all the time and am very restricted in what I can eat, which is annoying.
I wouldn't call myself very restricted in what I eat. Most of my meals are the same things - one energy drink a day, then the rest is milk, eggs, greek yogurt, protein bars, white rice, and ground beef, but if I want a large pizza in place of two of my beef/rice bowls once a week I don't stress over it. It's maybe an extra 1200-1500 calories depending on toppings, but it doesn't do much to affect my weight, and most of that is just due to the fact that it's tough to eat my 4300 calorie maintenance in purely clean/"bro" foods.
On April 08 2018 12:38 Jerubaal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2018 15:23 Redox wrote:Warm is lean meant with vegetables and often potatoes. Cold is whole grain rye bread with mostly lean meat and sometimes cheese. Drinking only water / tea. What I am missing most atm from what I cut is red wine. Has to be said I am sitting on my ass most of the day though. Hard to say without knowing exact specifics. Some people are just unlucky. Some people are also bullshitters. You shouldn't have to be so drastic unless you have a majorly fucked up system. How long do you guys do a program? I'm in the 3rd round of my 4 week program and I don't know if I should switch it up at all.
Until it stops working. Feel free to make small tweaks from one run to the next.
On April 08 2018 13:38 L_Master wrote:
Man, one of my lifting buddies/training partners had it bad today. After our third set of deficit pulls he was not feeling good. Went to sit down in the corner, and over the course of the next 5 minutes got more out of it, saying at the worst he lost most of his vision and hearing, and I saw him wretch once. Went from sitting to laying down and started to feel better, making a gradual recovery over the next 10'.
We both decided he should probably head home, so he called his roommate to bring him home and was feeling better. The caveat here is that his CV shape is quite poor, and he hadn't eat anything yet, having only been up for about an hour.
I know it's not crazy uncommon to be lightheaded or even passout immediately after a deadlift but this was different. Is this the kind of thing you guys have heard of before, or do we need to be extra attentive?
If this was immediately after his deadlift reps and only lasted for a moment, then it's due to a change in blood pressure. For more information your search term would be Vagal Response
If it was a gradual onset with a longer duration (anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour) it sounds like it could possibly be hypoglycemia, has he ever been checked for diabetes/have any family history of that?
On another note & before he posts here, congrats to decaf on the meet and on qualifying for the open!
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