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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18858 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-01 12:30:37
March 01 2017 12:28 GMT
#3241
For some variation, work on rotator cuff flexibility and see if behind the neck presses feel ok. There's a lot of fear-mongering out there among trainers who insist that behind the neck OHP are inherently dangerous, but said trainers tend to have little to no background in anatomy and do not believe that anatomical differentiation is a real thing.

Also, and I know a lot of big boys frown at this suggestion, playing basketball is actually a really nice way to add some extra emphasis to the shoulders. I've seen it yield benefits as an off-day supplement.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Ehzera
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Singapore212 Posts
March 01 2017 12:42 GMT
#3242
Any advice on how to get started on rotator cuff flexibility? Currently I'm only doing band pullaparts/dislocates for shoulder stretching. I definitely want to get started on btn pressing but I've never tried cos I'm a wuss.

Basketball sounds great but currently slaving away at my internship from 830-6 for $2.7 an hour lmao
“A tree without roots is just a piece of wood.” - Marco Pierre White
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18858 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-01 12:46:31
March 01 2017 12:45 GMT
#3243
Just continue doing band work and then start doing a low pyramid flexibility routine for a few weeks as you train the shoulder to expect the unusual movement. That looks like 12x45lbs (just the bar), 10x55, 8x65, 6x75, 6x85, that sort of thing. Because it's the shoulder, there'll likely be a sweet spot around 55-75 pounds where the weight is low enough that you don't impinge anything as a matter of course while also still high enough to allow full ROM and activation throughout. Once you find that spot, always start there when beginning your shoulder workouts and flexibility should continue to improve.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Ehzera
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Singapore212 Posts
March 01 2017 13:02 GMT
#3244
Alright sounds like a plan, thanks man. I'll update if there's anything worth updating
“A tree without roots is just a piece of wood.” - Marco Pierre White
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
March 01 2017 17:22 GMT
#3245
What farva said. Except basketball, your genetics are not suited for it
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-01 17:48:52
March 01 2017 17:47 GMT
#3246
front delts just do front/side raises with a dumbell, they are easy as fuck to slot in somewhere and hit a lot (switch your angle up so you're not just lifting directly in front of you, a bit to the side is actually harder to do (for me))
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20163 Posts
March 01 2017 20:40 GMT
#3247
Still alive despite brutal training and going to vegas for a bachelor party
Trained at average broz gym last weekend for week 2 day 5:
Snatch doubles 50 70 90 100 110
Snatch singles 115 117.5 120 122 124 126
Clean x2 + Jerk 125 130 135
Clean + Jerk 140 142.5 145 147.5

Monday Week 3 Day 1
Snatch Triples 100 110 116 120 (wtf how? #vegasgains)
Power Clean + Push Press + Power Jerk:
(3+3+3) @ 100, (2+2+2) @ 110, (2+1+2) @ 115, (2+1+1) @ 120
Squats 5x 175, 180, 183, 185, 191 supersetted with good mornings 5x90

Yesterday
4x10 Single arm KB deficit deadlifts
4x12 BTN barbell situps
5x10 Single leg deadlifts
3x12 Side Plank Ups

Today: Triples til I die. We'll see how it goes
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20163 Posts
March 01 2017 20:44 GMT
#3248
On March 01 2017 21:42 Ehzera wrote:
Any advice on how to get started on rotator cuff flexibility? Currently I'm only doing band pullaparts/dislocates for shoulder stretching. I definitely want to get started on btn pressing but I've never tried cos I'm a wuss.

Basketball sounds great but currently slaving away at my internship from 830-6 for $2.7 an hour lmao


My PT has me doing these (for hips too) and they're great. Do a couple sets of 10 every day and really push yourself on em.


how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Ehzera
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Singapore212 Posts
March 02 2017 06:54 GMT
#3249
Awesome, guys thanks for the help. Really hoping that bringing my shoulder strength up is going to finally tip my bench over to the 3plate/140kg category. Been stuck at 125-130 for ages lol, and it makes a lot of sense since my OHP max is only at like 75kg on a good day.

Feel like a decent Deadlift PR might be coming in soon, can't wait for my straps to come in since I lost them.
“A tree without roots is just a piece of wood.” - Marco Pierre White
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20163 Posts
March 02 2017 15:04 GMT
#3250
Some how did 145kg for 3 C&J. 1kg under my PR double lol

https://www.instagram.com/p/BRHulbTApBh
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
March 02 2017 18:21 GMT
#3251
On March 03 2017 00:04 decafchicken wrote:
Some how did 145kg for 3 C&J. 1kg under my PR double lol

https://www.instagram.com/p/BRHulbTApBh


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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
March 03 2017 09:47 GMT
#3252
On March 02 2017 02:47 FFGenerations wrote:
front delts just do front/side raises with a dumbell, they are easy as fuck to slot in somewhere and hit a lot (switch your angle up so you're not just lifting directly in front of you, a bit to the side is actually harder to do (for me))


Front raises are not nearly as effective as just doing more bench/incline/overhead pressing. Lateral raises don't hit the front of the shoulder, they hit the side of it. Very few people out there actually need more direct front delt work, unless the only chest workouts you do are flyes and pushups.
Ehzera
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Singapore212 Posts
March 05 2017 08:48 GMT
#3253
Did some BTN Presses yesterday after my main OHP work as suggested, wow they feel great lol might forgo OHP for this even (maybe). Went up to 40kg for a couple of sets of 12. Thoughts on doing Klokov Presses though? Going max grip seems crazy
“A tree without roots is just a piece of wood.” - Marco Pierre White
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4747 Posts
March 05 2017 10:47 GMT
#3254
On March 05 2017 17:48 Ehzera wrote:
Did some BTN Presses yesterday after my main OHP work as suggested, wow they feel great lol might forgo OHP for this even (maybe). Went up to 40kg for a couple of sets of 12. Thoughts on doing Klokov Presses though? Going max grip seems crazy


Does it really matter? In the end you are just hitting the same muscle groups from a slightly different angle. Do what is more fun, I would not overthink it. Personally, I vary my BTN grip width all the time.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-07 18:26:17
March 07 2017 18:25 GMT
#3255
45kg/100lbs chinups 3 reps baboom

my lats are dead
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 00:10:45
March 07 2017 22:25 GMT
#3256
Beast. I've been injury-ridden and haven't been able to consistently work on my chin-ups. Most I've done recently was 1 rep @ 90 lbs

How much do you weigh?
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4747 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-08 00:09:58
March 07 2017 23:39 GMT
#3257
On March 08 2017 03:25 Pulimuli wrote:
45kg/100lbs chinups 3 reps baboom


Wow, that is very impressive.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4747 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-07 23:50:24
March 07 2017 23:47 GMT
#3258
Today's training:
bw: 107,3kg
Squat: 157,5kg: 5-5-5-5-5 (Video of the 2nd set)
Bench Press: 110x4f, 107,5x,107,5x5, 110x5, 110x4f
Chin Ups: +10kg: 4-4-4
Deadlift 60kg: 3-3-3-3 (muscle memory for the correct starting position)
15 Face Pulls.

Still squatting without a belt, I should be able to push those 5s a bit higher
110x5 is a PR for reps on the bench. To accomplish that in the 4th heavy set is kinda weird - it shows I have good strength endurance and that form/technique is very important (and still inconsistent for me). Trying for 110x5x5 next week.
The weight loss is coming along slow and steady. 3kg more until end of April and I won't even need to cut weight to get into the -105kg competition.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
March 08 2017 00:13 GMT
#3259
On March 08 2017 07:25 infinity21 wrote:
Beast. I've been injury-ridden and haven't been able to consistently work on my chin-ups. Most I've done recently was 1 rep @ 90 lbs

How much do you weigh?


about 68-70kg or 150-153lbs
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
March 08 2017 00:36 GMT
#3260
On March 08 2017 09:13 Pulimuli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2017 07:25 infinity21 wrote:
Beast. I've been injury-ridden and haven't been able to consistently work on my chin-ups. Most I've done recently was 1 rep @ 90 lbs

How much do you weigh?


about 68-70kg or 150-153lbs

Damn dude. I'm ~175 lbs and you're doing heavier chins for reps lmao
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