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Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
September 15 2015 13:55 GMT
#381
Has Strava been acting normal for you guys? My last two workouts (Saturday and Monday) it had me going faster than my watch showed while I was actually running them. For the last rep yesterday, Strava claims I was five seconds per kilometre faster than my watch told me at the time.

Does anyone know what might be going on here? I feel I'm running well right now, but 3:10/km for 10k pace is still an outright fantasy.
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
September 15 2015 21:53 GMT
#382
It's more the GPS device itself thas has been acting weird recently for me. Sunday's run had me at 5:30 pace for a few minutes and jumed down to 4:30 a little later all while I was running at ~5:00/k effort. Strava seems to even that out actually. I trust neither my watch nor Strava right now.
mtmentat
Profile Joined April 2011
United States142 Posts
September 16 2015 16:12 GMT
#383
No issues with Strava or GPS for me, recently, just the usual "can't get a reasonable lock" issues (had to turn a really good run I had on Sunday to private, lest people think I'm a canyon jumping superman).

Rattlesnake Ramble is quickly becoming one of my favorite races here in CO. 4.25 miles of up, around, and down in beautiful Eldorado Canyon with really really good swag at the end. Perfect way to start any Saturday - 5th place overall just a few spots back from the really fast guys. I was a bit sore/dogged it a bit, but looking forward to adding it to my goal races list in 2016.

L_Master - definitely let me know here or on Strava if you and YPang want to get together for a run this next 1.5 week!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
September 16 2015 16:18 GMT
#384
On September 17 2015 01:12 mtmentat wrote:
No issues with Strava or GPS for me, recently, just the usual "can't get a reasonable lock" issues (had to turn a really good run I had on Sunday to private, lest people think I'm a canyon jumping superman).

Rattlesnake Ramble is quickly becoming one of my favorite races here in CO. 4.25 miles of up, around, and down in beautiful Eldorado Canyon with really really good swag at the end. Perfect way to start any Saturday - 5th place overall just a few spots back from the really fast guys. I was a bit sore/dogged it a bit, but looking forward to adding it to my goal races list in 2016.

L_Master - definitely let me know here or on Strava if you and YPang want to get together for a run this next 1.5 week!


As of now we are inclining on Saturday, and then next weekend going to run Mags.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
mtmentat
Profile Joined April 2011
United States142 Posts
September 16 2015 23:12 GMT
#385
On September 17 2015 01:18 L_Master wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 17 2015 01:12 mtmentat wrote:
No issues with Strava or GPS for me, recently, just the usual "can't get a reasonable lock" issues (had to turn a really good run I had on Sunday to private, lest people think I'm a canyon jumping superman).

Rattlesnake Ramble is quickly becoming one of my favorite races here in CO. 4.25 miles of up, around, and down in beautiful Eldorado Canyon with really really good swag at the end. Perfect way to start any Saturday - 5th place overall just a few spots back from the really fast guys. I was a bit sore/dogged it a bit, but looking forward to adding it to my goal races list in 2016.

L_Master - definitely let me know here or on Strava if you and YPang want to get together for a run this next 1.5 week!


As of now we are inclining on Saturday, and then next weekend going to run Mags.


Sweet! Enjoy the incline and I'll be in Boulder next weekend for Mags.

Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-18 13:04:01
September 18 2015 13:01 GMT
#386
Running is just very rewaring right now. Since I am pretty heavy, the constant training and weight-loss easily results in one PR after another, without even trying.

A couple of weeks ago just a casual 5k PR at 24:04, last week I spontaneously logged a 4:22 pace over 1,5km. This week I did 8k in 40:15, with side aches and traffic around me. And finally yesterday I just set a 1km PR of 4:12. Everything without rest and just within normal training sessions.
The 93km I logged-in last week were an all-time high as well.

My bodyweight is at 103,9kg right now, so exactly 14kg to go to reach the promised land. I hope I can finish this year at 95.

It's been a long time since I have felt so well and motivated. I just need to stay healthy... please!

But it still boggles my mind that there are people in this thread that run 3:30/km for 30km straight. Holy lord.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
September 18 2015 14:20 GMT
#387
On September 18 2015 22:01 Malinor wrote:
Running is just very rewaring right now. Since I am pretty heavy, the constant training and weight-loss easily results in one PR after another, without even trying.

A couple of weeks ago just a casual 5k PR at 24:04, last week I spontaneously logged a 4:22 pace over 1,5km. This week I did 8k in 40:15, with side aches and traffic around me. And finally yesterday I just set a 1km PR of 4:12. Everything without rest and just within normal training sessions.
The 93km I logged-in last week were an all-time high as well.

My bodyweight is at 103,9kg right now, so exactly 14kg to go to reach the promised land. I hope I can finish this year at 95.

It's been a long time since I have felt so well and motivated. I just need to stay healthy... please!

But it still boggles my mind that there are people in this thread that run 3:30/km for 30km straight. Holy lord.



Go Malinor go! It's so great to hear that you're making progress and enjoying yourself. It is a truth universally acknowledged that running is the best.

As far as the speed thing: everything is relative. I follow a professional runner named Reid Coolsaet on Strava. In October he's going to try to break the Canadian national marathon record at the Berlin marathon. The workouts I see him post look totally impossible to me. And I'm sure he looks at what Wilson Kipsang or whoever gets up to and thinks "man, that dude is inhuman. How can anyone run that fast?"

So I always like to focus more on my own improvement than beating any particular person. As Qui-Gon Jinn says to Obi-Wan Kenobi, there is always a bigger fish.
xJupiter9x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States150 Posts
September 18 2015 22:37 GMT
#388
Does everyone here pretty much only use Strava to log their workouts?
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
September 20 2015 05:31 GMT
#389
On September 19 2015 07:37 xJupiter9x wrote:
Does everyone here pretty much only use Strava to log their workouts?


By and large yes. It's a nice social platform and generally just the best website out there.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
mtmentat
Profile Joined April 2011
United States142 Posts
September 20 2015 18:50 GMT
#390
On September 19 2015 07:37 xJupiter9x wrote:
Does everyone here pretty much only use Strava to log their workouts?


Haha, yeah. I got into Strava because of a lot of trail runners in the area using it.
Funny story, got called a "Strava nerd" yesterday because I knew where a fellow runner had a CR ("course record"). :D
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
September 21 2015 04:20 GMT
#391
ehh. Uncertain where my heart lies on my half marathon goal pace in a couple weeks.

Have a half marathon on october 11, which from some offhand accounts is a bit of a more difficult course. Pretty much the only thing I go through on my regular standard runs is heat (which is now in a good spot as the summer ends--very good temperatures) and sometimes it is pretty darn windy. There is some good hillwork that I only occasionally make use of though.

Did 9 miles today on regular flat bike/walking path in 1:05:20 (with short 20 seconds for water), which was harder than I would have liked it to be. Considering my "heart" is really on 7:15 pace for the race pace (1:35:00 basically) and I am not implementing the appropriately distanced long runs, I should re-evaluate that.

Working on upping my mileage (been just at 40 mpw), but also being smarter about mixing it up in my runs-- a little more hills, a little more intervals/mixing up the speed, and a little better long "slow" runs.
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Meat
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands3751 Posts
September 21 2015 09:21 GMT
#392
On March 09 2015 12:12 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2015 06:20 Meat wrote:
On January 03 2015 20:46 Meat wrote:
Got a half marathon coming up in 64 days. Right now I run about 50 minutes @ 11km/h with 2 training days a week. Probably need to add an extra training day. Will miss more than a week due to wintersports as well.

Update:
Was progressing alright but then I got some issues with my calves about 3,5 weeks ago (the soleus muscle from what I understand) after doing some speedwork. Realized I was using terrible (non-running) shoes so got my really old worn-out Asics back. Didn't want new shoes so close to the race so just got some new soles and proper socks. Recovery started about 2 weeks back. So after that I only had 1 decent training with 15km.

Weather was really good, probably around 15'C with some sun. First 5km was easy, I started somewhere in the front between all the much faster runners so everyone was passing me. Arrived in 27 minutes at the 5km point.
Between 5 and 10 I started getting blisters and slowed down a bit. 57 minutes for the 10km mark.
The 10 to 15 was pretty easy, felt good besides the blisters getting worse.
At 15km there was a small clim, took a lot of energy.
The 17 to 19.5 were tough as hell.
Made a nice sprint the last 100 or 200 meters passing a lot of people.

My goal was to arrive around 2:15:00 but I arrived in 2:02:26, so I'm very pleased with the result. Never ran so far, was lacking training and my 10km+ runs were always around 6:30 / km. Guess the athmosphere and starting in front helps a ton.

Now going to train for < 2:00:00


Nice stuff!

That's a pretty solid run for curtailed training. Given the circumstances under which you ran the race shooting for sub 1:50 would probably be a more meaningful goal. No way you don't smash 2:00 if you stay healthy

Got a HM in a month, might actually be able to beat 1:50. Did a 10 mile race yesterday, more as part of my training program than as a race, and finished in 84:49 while my goal was 88. The race was pretty light and casual in general, though there was some heavy headwind at some parts and the race was going from one city to another, so it never became backwind. Accelerated twice, at the 13 and 15km marks cause I had so much energy left. Considering to get thights though, had a lot of problems with the shorts. Boxers and shorts kept rolling up, causing irritation between the legs.
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Meat
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands3751 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-21 15:47:02
September 21 2015 15:46 GMT
#393
Good thing about such a commercial run (50.000 runners) is that there is a lot of footage, I am shocked by my technique It's so bad, I'm making some kind of circular horizontal motion with my legs. I will have to work on that, maybe I'll take some private classes or something.
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Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
September 22 2015 02:10 GMT
#394
On September 22 2015 00:46 Meat wrote:
Good thing about such a commercial run (50.000 runners) is that there is a lot of footage, I am shocked by my technique It's so bad, I'm making some kind of circular horizontal motion with my legs. I will have to work on that, maybe I'll take some private classes or something.


A few notes:

1 There's no overwhelming evidence that having really sexy running form actually makes you a faster runner. The owner of the women's world record for the marathon famously has very ugly form, for example.
2 The main thing you can do to improve your form is just accumulate more mileage, but if you want to accelerate the process you should strengthen your core and do some drills. Google "running form drills" and "running strides" for lots of helpful info.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 08:54:51
September 22 2015 08:41 GMT
#395
So I'm trying to get into running ( again :D), i've had a lot of issues with my knees in the past so i'm trying to avoid straining myself too hard.
I think it's common with people that lack experience in running, but one of my problem is that i have a hard time maintaining a regular pace so i tried to run 10k while monitoring my speed on strava.
I was aiming for a 5.00 pace, i ended up doing 50.50 for the 10k (https://www.strava.com/activities/397189100), could have been more regular but i lost some time running off track for around 2km (lots of vegetation).

So anyway, any tips on how to improve my regularity? Also do you think aiming for a 4.50 min/km pace on 10k it a realistic objective? For now my priority is staying injury free, so i don't think i'll be able to run more than 20k/30k a week...
14CC
Profile Blog Joined May 2015
93 Posts
September 22 2015 11:07 GMT
#396
On September 22 2015 17:41 Jetaap wrote:
So I'm trying to get into running ( again :D), i've had a lot of issues with my knees in the past so i'm trying to avoid straining myself too hard.
I think it's common with people that lack experience in running, but one of my problem is that i have a hard time maintaining a regular pace so i tried to run 10k while monitoring my speed on strava.
I was aiming for a 5.00 pace, i ended up doing 50.50 for the 10k (https://www.strava.com/activities/397189100), could have been more regular but i lost some time running off track for around 2km (lots of vegetation).

So anyway, any tips on how to improve my regularity? Also do you think aiming for a 4.50 min/km pace on 10k it a realistic objective? For now my priority is staying injury free, so i don't think i'll be able to run more than 20k/30k a week...

There are a couple of things you can do to reduce stress on your knees and angles in particular. First off, it's really important to make sure you warm up properly. Secondly, it's a good idea to run on gravel or at least a surface not as hard as pavement. Thirdly, listen to your body; if your knees feel like a 15 min run, don't overdo it, etc. If you want to run faster, the way to do so is definitely staying injury free anyway so there's no reason to force anything.
Meat
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands3751 Posts
September 22 2015 11:31 GMT
#397
Do you guys run in the rain? I keep hearing that you should just go out and run, even if it's raining. Tried that twice and it just seems masochistic to me. If it rains I just check the weather report and plan it accordingly. I don't mind the rain in my face, but a cold soaking wet shirt glued to your chest is not a lot of fun to me. Or do you have a rainshirt that is somewhat waterproof?
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Meat
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands3751 Posts
September 22 2015 11:37 GMT
#398
On September 22 2015 11:10 Bonham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2015 00:46 Meat wrote:
Good thing about such a commercial run (50.000 runners) is that there is a lot of footage, I am shocked by my technique It's so bad, I'm making some kind of circular horizontal motion with my legs. I will have to work on that, maybe I'll take some private classes or something.


A few notes:

1 There's no overwhelming evidence that having really sexy running form actually makes you a faster runner. The owner of the women's world record for the marathon famously has very ugly form, for example.
2 The main thing you can do to improve your form is just accumulate more mileage, but if you want to accelerate the process you should strengthen your core and do some drills. Google "running form drills" and "running strides" for lots of helpful info.

Well it's mostly that my legs seem a bit wobbly, so I will definately check for some exercises.
I made a short compilation with Camtasia and uploaded it to youtube. I'm the guy running in an orange/white singlet, frustratingly rolling up blue shorts and blue shoes. Also tried to indicate with mouse cursor so should be obvious. I wonder what's the most important thing I should work on?
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
September 22 2015 16:23 GMT
#399
On September 22 2015 20:31 Meat wrote:
Do you guys run in the rain? I keep hearing that you should just go out and run, even if it's raining. Tried that twice and it just seems masochistic to me. If it rains I just check the weather report and plan it accordingly. I don't mind the rain in my face, but a cold soaking wet shirt glued to your chest is not a lot of fun to me. Or do you have a rainshirt that is somewhat waterproof?


Running in the rain is the best. It only feels uncomfortable when it is really cold or when it is raining cows. Then I put on a running vest, that keeps me warm enough and holds off enough rain to stay comfortable.

As for the soaking wet shirt... Minus slow recovery runs, my shirt is always freaking wet. It doesn't make much difference to me. You should just try to sweat more, then the rain won't bother you ;-)
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
September 23 2015 05:40 GMT
#400
On September 22 2015 20:37 Meat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2015 11:10 Bonham wrote:
On September 22 2015 00:46 Meat wrote:
Good thing about such a commercial run (50.000 runners) is that there is a lot of footage, I am shocked by my technique It's so bad, I'm making some kind of circular horizontal motion with my legs. I will have to work on that, maybe I'll take some private classes or something.


A few notes:

1 There's no overwhelming evidence that having really sexy running form actually makes you a faster runner. The owner of the women's world record for the marathon famously has very ugly form, for example.
2 The main thing you can do to improve your form is just accumulate more mileage, but if you want to accelerate the process you should strengthen your core and do some drills. Google "running form drills" and "running strides" for lots of helpful info.

Well it's mostly that my legs seem a bit wobbly, so I will definately check for some exercises.
I made a short compilation with Camtasia and uploaded it to youtube. I'm the guy running in an orange/white singlet, frustratingly rolling up blue shorts and blue shoes. Also tried to indicate with mouse cursor so should be obvious. I wonder what's the most important thing I should work on?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yzL6n344n0


I see what you mean for your leg, unfortunately i'm not in a position where I can give you advice :D.
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