On June 03 2015 05:13 Pandemona wrote: Yeah on the Qatar and Russia world cups there is literally nothing to say right now. Anything could happen, i know many UEFA members were pushing for re votes but im sure they still need somehow get a majority voting pushed through to get a re vote surely. Which of course will be hard, i for one think the Russia world cup was at least more credible? than the Qatar one, like there bid itself in general when you think of them getting the world cup being ok. Qatar getting it and changing the whole tournament structure is pure wrong let alone the fact that they idle by and watch many "slaves" die building the stuff!
Personally im ok if they didn't re vote 2018 world cup, but definitely think a 2022 world cup re vote or re consideration is needed.
Yeah Russia is at least a big football country.
I'm not sure if you can simply re vote on Qatar. Contracts are already signed and they're building stadiums. I'd guess FIFA would have to pay huge fines or something to Qatar for breaking the contracts.
Not that every association would do that but they could still all boycott the tournament. Sure we'll end up with qatar as world champion because nobody else would turn up but that would be a good reminder for all times what we thought about fifa, slavery etc.
WC 2018 in Iceland, Sweden, Finland, Norway and Denmark! If I had to trust somebody it would be those damn fine nordics.
I agree. A nordic world cup would be excellent. But you cant really split it between that money countries if you want to keep the privilege of the host country getting an auto invite.
i would be down for Sweden to get it. i think they would do an excellent job of hosting a world cup. Ive worked alot with Swedes and they are the best people I have worked by far.
A nordic world cup would be awesome, but we only have 1 stadium with the capacity of 450000 spectators and that's in copenhagen. Rest is 20000 capacity and below sadly. It would be amazing tho. During summer here it's between 15-25 degrees here which is perfect climate
On June 03 2015 05:59 Copymizer wrote: A nordic world cup would be awesome, but we only have 1 stadium with the capacity of 450000 spectators and that's in copenhagen. Rest is 20000 capacity and below sadly. It would be amazing tho
FIFA monies, would give you some to make more plus government would help due to the increased revenue from tourists. Reason why the world cup should be so magical is because the after effect is there are many world class football facilities at the end of it to be used for years and years.
International media now picking up the ABC story as the New York Times appears to have multiple independent sources. Saying that the US is trying to flip those arrested against Blatter.
On June 03 2015 05:59 Copymizer wrote: A nordic world cup would be awesome, but we only have 1 stadium with the capacity of 450000 spectators and that's in copenhagen. Rest is 20000 capacity and below sadly. It would be amazing tho
FIFA monies, would give you some to make more plus government would help due to the increased revenue from tourists. Reason why the world cup should be so magical is because the after effect is there are many world class football facilities at the end of it to be used for years and years.
Yeah if we just made new big stadiums and facilities + expanded accomodation of hotels and tourist facilities, it could really become a success on every level. June and July are THE best months to visit Denmark, it's absolutely amazing here during summer considering the rest of the year is basically cloudy rainy, windy and dark beginning from september all the way to april-may.
On June 03 2015 05:59 Copymizer wrote: A nordic world cup would be awesome, but we only have 1 stadium with the capacity of 450000 spectators and that's in copenhagen. Rest is 20000 capacity and below sadly. It would be amazing tho
FIFA monies, would give you some to make more plus government would help due to the increased revenue from tourists. Reason why the world cup should be so magical is because the after effect is there are many world class football facilities at the end of it to be used for years and years.
Yeah if we just made new big stadiums and facilities + expanded accomodation of hotels and tourist facilities, it could really become a success on every level. June and July are THE best months to visit Denmark, it's absolutely amazing here during summer considering the rest of the year is basically cloudy rainy, windy and dark beginning from september all the way to april-may.
WHAAAAT? Mid-Late september is absolutely amazing in denmark but hey that's just me loving my walks at the beach with a massive amount of wind into a cozy dark evening ; )
On June 02 2015 02:00 Rebs wrote: I was waiting last night for the episode to air (helps that its right before GOT). Ofcourse he couldnt not have his 2 cents on the FIFA scandal.
So America really did listen to him. The corps certainly werent going to give a shit.
The turf thing in the Womens world cup is absolutely ridiculous.
Disrespect aside, its so dangerous. Anyone whose played on turf knows its for casual 5 or 7 a 7 side no sliding tackle shit. You so much as slip on turf and your skin gets razed.
Sadly theres no games in Toronto because the fucking Pan AM games didnt want to share. Bolt better show up.
To be fair, theres always a second country if deadlines arent met (England was for Brazil 2014), easy way out ? just say that Qatar wasnt prepared enough and go to plan B (which hopefully isnt in North Korea)
On June 03 2015 05:13 haitike wrote: Personally I would like to see in the future a WC in an arab country. But in a arab country with real football fans and some league tradition. Not a country like Qatar built with oil. I mean countries like Egypt or Marocoo. But of course this countries doesn't have infinite oil, so it will never happen.
Even if you get a "real football country", the biggest issue would still be that it would have to be held in winter. Not to mention the security nightmare that would be. The Rally Dakar is now in South America for a reason.
Well, Marocoo climate is not so much different from Spain, and Egypt isn't so hot as Arabian Peninsula countries neither. But you are right, now building the stadiums and offering the security would be difficult. Despite it I would like it in the future. All the marocoo people I know really love football and talk about it all the time.
Other countries I would like to host are countries like Turkey or Greece. They have some good stadiums already, they are quite decent in european tournaments and they have a huge football fanbase.
Greece ain't gonna be spending billions on football any time soon mate, they have some nice stadiums already but they would need a lot more.
Turkey is probably the only muslim nation that could pull off a serious world cup and be relatively safe, Iran would be safe but we all know that's not happening and visa issues would be a problem.
edit: I dunno how much of an interest nordic countries would have in taking the 2022 WC. The only stadium in Sweden that wouldn't need a complete overhaul in Friends Arena (50k), but even then there is going to be a problem with what to do with the stadiums after the world cup. AIK that plays in that 50k seater only has 16k average attendance, don't know how many football clubs in those countries can afford to play in big stadiums
edit2: @smr: Please good footballing countries boycott Russia 2018 so Serbia can finally make it to the later stages of a World Cup. tnx <3
I was against the WC in Qatar, but if you are really interested in the fate of the migrant workers in Qatar, the WC might be a unique chance to improve their living conditions. The truth is most of these workers would work in Qatar even without the WC, but no one would care.
Whilst that is a very true point, even with the world watching and seeing what is going on. Still nothing is done by the Qatari government to fix this problem, it is just highlighted more. So surely a penalty to them would be to remove the World Cup from them and maybe then when/if they re bid for the competition they can show how they don't use modern day slavery!
- infrastructure , do you have the ability to host the competition without a ridiculous investment in stadiums will people benefit from the investment
- human rights/ethics - does the country have a history of human rights violations and will human rights be violated to host the event. does the country have a history of racism, homophobia .
environment - is the country a reasonable place to play football in the middle of summer.
location rotation - to ensure the world cup is played globally it should not be played in the same continent consecutively.
On June 03 2015 18:03 Savant.GL wrote: IMO the world cup should be awarded based on
- infrastructure , do you have the ability to host the competition without a ridiculous investment in stadiums will people benefit from the investment
- human rights/ethics - does the country have a history of human rights violations and will human rights be violated to host the event. does the country have a history of racism, homophobia .
environment - is the country a reasonable place to play football in the middle of summer.
location rotation - to ensure the world cup is played globally it should not be played in the same continent consecutively.
qatar would have failed on the first 3 points.
Not just Qatar. Every African, South and Central American, most of Asia and quite a few European countries would have failed on one or more of those points. Starting with the 2010 through 2022 World Cups.
Edit: Uefa/Platini have cancelled the meeting in Berlin, "fast moving events" and such. Blatter should have waited until next week to wait for Uefa to thoroughly embarrass themselves.
For all theorycrafting, keep in mind that a) fifa has adopted a rotation policy, by which not continent/confederation can host more than every 3rd world cup. b) sweden, norway, etc. and turkey/greece are part of UEFA. So a nordic or a turkey/greece world cup would mean no world cup for the bigger european countries for 24 years. Sounds not very likely to me. I mean, imagine who will be bidding for the 2030 world cup: England (+ maybe rest of uk/ireland), spain (+ maybe portugal), italy, maybe netherlands/belgium. Possibly even france, since it will be 14 years since the 2016 EURO by then.
On the other hands, I think morocco (who have a history a close-but-not-quite-successful world cup bids) in combination with tunisia/algeria and/or egypt would be perfect hosts for a variety of reasons: -WC hasnt been in muslim countries yet (not younting qatar yet) -basically the same timezones as europe -easy to reach from europe -football is really popular there and -there are some clubs who definitely can and do fill big stadiums at least a few times per season. -tunisia in particular appear to be doing quite well in terms of democracy after their revolution.
EPT
plus government would help due to the increased revenue from tourists. Reason why the world cup should be so magical is because the after effect is there are many world class football facilities at the end of it to be used for years and years. 
