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Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 20:00:19
May 28 2015 19:43 GMT
#14741
How much luck can a team have?
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 19:50:36
May 28 2015 19:50 GMT
#14742
On May 29 2015 04:43 Micro_Jackson wrote:
How much luck can a club have?

Don't know about clubs but I have no luck gambling these past few days. Every single time I am one match away from the monies and every single time they screw me over.

Bloody Jordanian cup a few days ago. Got the winning ticket until the 90th minute, penalty and it ends a draw. Was already planning how to spend 70 euros Don't even get me started on PAOK - PAO and playing 1:2 on Sevilia yesterday.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 28 2015 20:04 GMT
#14743
Aaaaaaaaand there it is. They so don't deserve it.

In the Scottish relegation Rangers are currendly getting hammered at home, 3:0 Motherwell.

And Pande is gonna have a heart attack either tomorrow or when Uefa announces they are going to do nothing when after their CL final meeting :D
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Maxhster
Profile Joined March 2011
Fiji473 Posts
May 28 2015 20:06 GMT
#14744
born in Hamburg, live in Karlsruhe for 20 years now. This game is eating me alive D:
rawr
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 28 2015 20:13 GMT
#14745
Heart attack indeed.
Also i dont get the hate on Hamburg, they the longest serving team in Bundesliga
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Maxhster
Profile Joined March 2011
Fiji473 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 20:21:15
May 28 2015 20:17 GMT
#14746
On May 29 2015 05:13 Pandemona wrote:
Heart attack indeed.
Also i dont get the hate on Hamburg, they the longest serving team in Bundesliga


it has to do with the way they are funded. How 1 billionaire can have so much influence on who to buy and stuff. It wasnt always like this

Plus theres the underdog St. Pauli in the city as well, lots of people love that one and both clubs hate each other

and their bragging about their "dinosaur" status in the Bundesliga isnt helping either :p
rawr
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 28 2015 20:24 GMT
#14747
On May 29 2015 05:13 Pandemona wrote:
Heart attack indeed.
Also i dont get the hate on Hamburg, they the longest serving team in Bundesliga

A rich club that has been horribly mismanaged (13 coaches since 2010), and they have been massively lucky the last two years to the misfortune of small likeable clubs.
Oh and they have a clock in the stadium showing how long they have been in the Bundesliga that both the media and club mention at every possible opportunity (mascot is a dinosaur). The only reason I actually sort of want them to stay up is because that clock might move to Munich.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 28 2015 20:31 GMT
#14748
Oh ok makes a bit more sense. Be a bit sad though seeing one of the originals relegated. Even though it seems it will do them good by doing it.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
May 28 2015 20:33 GMT
#14749
Hamburger SV are part of the Blues brothers along with Rangers, Chelsea and Linfield so they are OK in my book
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
May 28 2015 20:38 GMT
#14750
from Yahoo:

More than a dozen banks are named in the U.S. Department of Justice's indictment of nine officials at FIFA, the game's powerful governing body, and five sports media and promotion executives, over charges involving more than $150 million in bribes.

"Part of our investigation will look at the conduct of the financial institutions to see whether they were cognizant of the fact they were helping launder these bribe payments," Kelly T. Currie, acting U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, said at a news conference.

https://news.yahoo.com/questions-arise-banks-role-fifa-bribery-case-012840061--sector.html
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 00:55:42
May 29 2015 00:55 GMT
#14751
On May 29 2015 05:38 Eliezar wrote:
from Yahoo:

More than a dozen banks are named in the U.S. Department of Justice's indictment of nine officials at FIFA, the game's powerful governing body, and five sports media and promotion executives, over charges involving more than $150 million in bribes.

"Part of our investigation will look at the conduct of the financial institutions to see whether they were cognizant of the fact they were helping launder these bribe payments," Kelly T. Currie, acting U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, said at a news conference.

https://news.yahoo.com/questions-arise-banks-role-fifa-bribery-case-012840061--sector.html



Ofcourse they were. No amount of accounting artistry can hide that kind of money once people start looking. US govt wants its payday. Its going to get it. Death and taxes etc...
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
May 29 2015 06:18 GMT
#14752
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-05-28/recruiting-u-s-banks-against-fifa-bribery

Why go after the banks? Partly because they are where the money is, and the FIFA investigation looks likely to be quite profitable for the Justice Department. Partly because everyone hates banks, and for an American prosecutor the public-relations benefit of bringing down (1) soccer, (2) corrupt foreigners and (3) banks all in one investigation is irresistible.


DOJ is due for a huge payday here. Big question is whether the banks should have known that the money being wired back and forth was for bribes, and whether in allowing these wires they knowingly facilitated money laundering and bribery and failed to notice or question the obvious red flags that evidently everyone else in the world knew about (that FIFA has been corrupt forever). Maybe? Probably? I guess at the least they should have flagged these individuals and asked "wait a minute, are these million dollars for bribes?" but that's a problem for their compliance officer to deal with.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
May 29 2015 07:02 GMT
#14753
On May 29 2015 15:18 TheMusiC wrote:
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-05-28/recruiting-u-s-banks-against-fifa-bribery

Show nested quote +
Why go after the banks? Partly because they are where the money is, and the FIFA investigation looks likely to be quite profitable for the Justice Department. Partly because everyone hates banks, and for an American prosecutor the public-relations benefit of bringing down (1) soccer, (2) corrupt foreigners and (3) banks all in one investigation is irresistible.


DOJ is due for a huge payday here. Big question is whether the banks should have known that the money being wired back and forth was for bribes, and whether in allowing these wires they knowingly facilitated money laundering and bribery and failed to notice or question the obvious red flags that evidently everyone else in the world knew about (that FIFA has been corrupt forever). Maybe? Probably? I guess at the least they should have flagged these individuals and asked "wait a minute, are these million dollars for bribes?" but that's a problem for their compliance officer to deal with.


Compliance and legal associates at these banks are probably getting fired as we speak. Whether they were told to do it or let it slide, either way their careers are kinda fucked. They can always snitch though. Frankly this is like movie worthy shit.

evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8925 Posts
May 29 2015 07:22 GMT
#14754
On May 29 2015 16:02 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 15:18 TheMusiC wrote:
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-05-28/recruiting-u-s-banks-against-fifa-bribery

Why go after the banks? Partly because they are where the money is, and the FIFA investigation looks likely to be quite profitable for the Justice Department. Partly because everyone hates banks, and for an American prosecutor the public-relations benefit of bringing down (1) soccer, (2) corrupt foreigners and (3) banks all in one investigation is irresistible.


DOJ is due for a huge payday here. Big question is whether the banks should have known that the money being wired back and forth was for bribes, and whether in allowing these wires they knowingly facilitated money laundering and bribery and failed to notice or question the obvious red flags that evidently everyone else in the world knew about (that FIFA has been corrupt forever). Maybe? Probably? I guess at the least they should have flagged these individuals and asked "wait a minute, are these million dollars for bribes?" but that's a problem for their compliance officer to deal with.


Compliance and legal associates at these banks are probably getting fired as we speak. Whether they were told to do it or let it slide, either way their careers are kinda fucked. They can always snitch though. Frankly this is like movie worthy shit.


yeah i can easily imagine a blockbuster being made surrounding this whole thing. although im pretty sure weve already seen movies with stories that are parallel to this one anyway
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 07:40:46
May 29 2015 07:30 GMT
#14755
FIFA congress stream, voting starts at 16CET
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 07:47:14
May 29 2015 07:46 GMT
#14756
On May 29 2015 16:22 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 16:02 Rebs wrote:
On May 29 2015 15:18 TheMusiC wrote:
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-05-28/recruiting-u-s-banks-against-fifa-bribery

Why go after the banks? Partly because they are where the money is, and the FIFA investigation looks likely to be quite profitable for the Justice Department. Partly because everyone hates banks, and for an American prosecutor the public-relations benefit of bringing down (1) soccer, (2) corrupt foreigners and (3) banks all in one investigation is irresistible.


DOJ is due for a huge payday here. Big question is whether the banks should have known that the money being wired back and forth was for bribes, and whether in allowing these wires they knowingly facilitated money laundering and bribery and failed to notice or question the obvious red flags that evidently everyone else in the world knew about (that FIFA has been corrupt forever). Maybe? Probably? I guess at the least they should have flagged these individuals and asked "wait a minute, are these million dollars for bribes?" but that's a problem for their compliance officer to deal with.


Compliance and legal associates at these banks are probably getting fired as we speak. Whether they were told to do it or let it slide, either way their careers are kinda fucked. They can always snitch though. Frankly this is like movie worthy shit.


yeah i can easily imagine a blockbuster being made surrounding this whole thing. although im pretty sure weve already seen movies with stories that are parallel to this one anyway


Well they did make a movie. Obviously it was self glorifying tripe

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2814362/

Then again it was FIFA who made it sooo....
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 29 2015 07:50 GMT
#14757
Looking at around 6 hours until the conference starts. So looking at probably 8 hours before end of 1st election vote?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 29 2015 08:02 GMT
#14758
On May 29 2015 16:50 Pandemona wrote:
Looking at around 6 hours until the conference starts. So looking at probably 8 hours before end of 1st election vote?

As I understand it the conference is already underway and only the election will be streamed at 4 pm. Two hours for one round of voting seems long.
Do you by any chance read German btw? I just read a massively depressing newspaper article that would contribute to your anger :p
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 08:06:19
May 29 2015 08:05 GMT
#14759
Haha my German is at best 5 year old level im afraid so it will be wasted on me xD

One thing, the guys from the North American associations have been sacked and new replacements been made already does that means these new heads of Costa Rican FA etc now get to vote? Because that would be nice for a change in vote, ala not voting blatter voting Prince Ali now ? Or do FIFA still see the arrested in charge and there vote counts?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 08:16:07
May 29 2015 08:14 GMT
#14760
In the same youtube channel there are other streams for different conference parts, I haven't posted them as I thought talking about budget and stuff isn't as interesting.
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