EPTOn September 27 2014 00:15 Mensol wrote:
I dont know about Chelsea but PSG going to win CL this year.
in Ibra we trust.
I dont know about Chelsea but PSG going to win CL this year.
in Ibra we trust.
psg really? even juventus has a greater shot imho.
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themartinez
Sweden254 Posts
psg really? even juventus has a greater shot imho. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On September 27 2014 02:27 themartinez wrote: psg really? even juventus has a greater shot imho. i would bet on man united over PSG btw i dont know how anyone could take fifa seriously anymore when they wont even release their curruption report | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On September 26 2014 22:41 Craze wrote: What an incredibly rude response to someone that took time to put together statistical trends with research that just happened to refute your claim. You can go back further in those sports and see even more variation if you really want to. MLS isn't a higher level because the US doesn't produce many great soccer players, if any. There's really no other reason. If you transported Bayern over and renamed them NYFC it wouldn't make the league better unless more young people started playing soccer seriously with the hope of becoming professionals. I don't see how his post was claiming "America is better." If you want to see five teams dominate a league forever until some playboy billionaire buys a sixth then the Euro model is great. I like to see teams like the Indi Colts, who lose almost every game in the preceding year (2-14) come back and be a winning team in the next (11-5) without a massive influx of cash. West Ham will never win another premier league with their current ownership, and that sucks for fans. Can you not agree with that? Or is your fanboyism so limited to the top club that you support that you adopt the "screw all the other guys" attitude? Oh, and Messi is the GOAT. I didnt say he was saying America was better. Im not sure how that came up. The Murca slight was just being dickish had nothing to do with being better. If anything to me that means people stuck in their own little bubble about how the world works. Dont lay off your insecurities and put words in my mouth of that comment please. I also live in DC and work for with the Government. And get plenty of reasons to make these remarks all the time. Has nothing to do with being better or worse. I just said that the idea that teams dont create dynasties is simply managed by implementing a one off knockout system. Just in the last decade alone look at the win rates of teams like the Patriots, not number of champion ships just their win rates i.e games won and compare them to european clubs. Thats all I was pointing out. There is no research involved in opening a wiki page and counting out the different number of championship winners. Its tabled out for you lol. He was not refuting my claim because I already pointed out that there is a more diverse set of winners in american sport, and explained some reasons for it. Which again are mostly down One of knockouts and or playoffs (There are a fair few other reasons to). I pointed out basketball to evidence that as the number of games involved increases the better team tends to start winning with a higher precentage. As opposed to the Giants have a mediocre season and then riding a wave of good D to the superbowl in a few games Its all written up there if you would like to take a look at the quote. I was rude because he went and pointed out the same thing I did and then proceeded to justify a line of argument I have no problem with. In my experience when people do that, they usually have an idea of what they want to say in their heads and just regurgitate it instead of actually understanding what the other person had to say. This is such a case to me. Now if you are done stroking each others fine things. (yes this is rude) perhaps you can take a look at it again and get my drift. There is no fanyboyism involved. That is just the reality of sport. I would love more competitive teams, but its proven that leagues that remain competitive and dont develop dynasties do not grow to and therefore stunts progression of the sport itself. Im sure it sucks for West Ham but, the game doesnt care if West Ham will win another league. And why should it ? You need big teams that garner fanboys and tradition. No one wants to be the next Stewart Downing now do they ? Also systems that encourage tanking are very anti competition. Or do people just whine about it because they like to ? Despite this, lets get real, the way things are the Bobcats are never going to win an championship either will they ? That must suck for fans | ||
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KobraKay
Portugal4372 Posts
On September 26 2014 23:02 Stratos_speAr wrote: so we could discuss the pro's and con's and maybe ways to fix the lopsided-ness in European soccer (because it is a problem and is complained about everywhere, especially in the Bundesliga now, even if you don't want to admit it). About everywhere? Where exactly is everywhere? As I have seen nothing of it anywhere besides this thread. Furthermore, my team plays in a league dominated by one club in the last 25 years (although some of those years by means of wine and hookers, and yes I'm a Porto fan but I'm not dumb) and nobody complains about the tittle races...the rest of the league is a joke...but it was always like that, it is no recent trend. We have 3 big clubs, 3 or 4 difficult clubs to play against away from home mostly and the rest is garbage that fight for survival in the first division and sometimes gets lucky and steals some points from the big 3. To me, American sports' fans never liked soccer because of 2 things: I) tradition in the sport, zero tradition means no interest in it from the masses; II) soccer leads to ties...I don't know many American sports that can end in a 0-0 tie or that can produce low score no fun games like it is possible to do in soccer if you play Atletico style (and yes this was on purpose to all you Mourinho haters  ).I think a fair comparison would be between those American leagues NHL/NFL/MLB/etc and the Champions League in Europe. Honestly, the only thing I would import from American sports to football is the fucking statistical analysis. I love that | ||
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warding
Portugal2397 Posts
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KobraKay
Portugal4372 Posts
On September 27 2014 18:34 warding wrote: For a non-committed fan, US sports are often a lot more fun. I've had more fun going attending random Boston Bruins and Pittsburgh Pirates games than in a lot of football games in Portugal watching my own team or the NT. I can agree with that up to a point because I watch some American sports. Take any Portuguese sports noob and put him watching Porto vs Guimaraes or something, and then take that same fan and put him watching the Lightning vs the Panthers...he will enjoy the football game more as the other sport is "alien" to him most likely. That was my point about the tradition. I recon it would be even worse if instead of a hockey game you'd put him on a baseball game :S the same way that an average non sports committed fan from Europe can recognize football and somewhat enjoy a game, his American counterpart can probably recognize and relate to most of American sports but football will seem "alien" to him. If you don't live under a rock, you will most likely recognize at least some aspects from other sports, thus I can agree with argument. | ||
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Terminal
United Kingdom2109 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
On September 27 2014 20:44 Terminal wrote: Merseyside derby time! Hope Everton wins. edit: though I'm thinking its gonna finish 0:0 | ||
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malcram
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GTR
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
He has been terrible. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18723 Posts
On September 27 2014 22:11 Pandemona wrote: This game sums up why Chelsea sold Lukaku or at least why they said he wasn't ready to be "no 1" striker xD He has been terrible. Oh wow one horrible game by Lukaku. How many abysmal games did Torres have?  | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Also as you remember in the World Cup he lost his starting place to a youngster from Lille. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18723 Posts
On September 27 2014 22:21 Pandemona wrote: Didn't say Torres was any better, but this isn't Lukaku's first terrible game this season. He played like shit vs Chelsea also. Go look at his game this season lol. Also as you remember in the World Cup he lost his starting place to a youngster from Lille. It was just a tongue in cheek because you sound like chelsea only does smart stuff :p | ||
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themartinez
Sweden254 Posts
On September 27 2014 22:24 sharkie wrote: It was just a tongue in cheek because you sound like chelsea only does smart stuff :p dont forget that mourinho and abramovich are our gods and saviours... | ||
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malcram
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Influ
Germany780 Posts
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