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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19347 Posts
October 16 2014 03:18 GMT
#2101
On October 16 2014 12:16 Disregard wrote:
Nash injuries himself carrying bags. I'm sure its more of back spasms but LOL.

like how boozer injured himself answering the door at night then tripping on his bags?
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 16 2014 03:20 GMT
#2102
On October 16 2014 12:02 zulu_nation8 wrote:
ok just 3-4 more then, at least 10 would be good


I'm in if there is a spot.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 16 2014 03:28 GMT
#2103
On October 16 2014 08:41 Jerubaal wrote:
I'd rather they shorten the schedule than the games. I like when teams actually have to have a bench. I also don't know if that will alleviate fatigue at all.

yeah but less games means less $ so they're never going to go for that. I think the shorter games is less about injury/fatigue than it is for watchability, they want to cut down on the amount of time it takes to watch a game (2-3 hours) so more casual fans will watch or something.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 16 2014 04:27 GMT
#2104
On October 16 2014 12:28 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 08:41 Jerubaal wrote:
I'd rather they shorten the schedule than the games. I like when teams actually have to have a bench. I also don't know if that will alleviate fatigue at all.

yeah but less games means less $ so they're never going to go for that. I think the shorter games is less about injury/fatigue than it is for watchability, they want to cut down on the amount of time it takes to watch a game (2-3 hours) so more casual fans will watch or something.


Yep, it sucks.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 16 2014 04:42 GMT
#2105
http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2014/10/14/appreciate-dwight-howard-back-surgery/
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-16 05:07:24
October 16 2014 05:05 GMT
#2106
NVm.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 16 2014 05:52 GMT
#2107
On October 16 2014 12:28 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 08:41 Jerubaal wrote:
I'd rather they shorten the schedule than the games. I like when teams actually have to have a bench. I also don't know if that will alleviate fatigue at all.

yeah but less games means less $ so they're never going to go for that. I think the shorter games is less about injury/fatigue than it is for watchability, they want to cut down on the amount of time it takes to watch a game (2-3 hours) so more casual fans will watch or something.


They are trying to see if the international length would be viable for the NBA. College is the same length as well but divided into halves. Shorter games theoretically lead to more upsets and reduce the amount of time teams are in cruise control early in the game.
bolahola
Profile Joined September 2014
Croatia28 Posts
October 16 2014 11:34 GMT
#2108
On October 16 2014 13:42 Ace wrote:
http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2014/10/14/appreciate-dwight-howard-back-surgery/

fuck dwight howard
techies added,rip dota
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-16 17:20:44
October 16 2014 15:19 GMT
#2109
http://patternofbasketball.blogspot.com/2014/10/steve-nash-and-two-way-players.html
http://patternofbasketball.blogspot.com/2014/10/steve-nash-hate-hard.html
http://nyloncalculus.com/2014/10/16/putting-point-guards-box/
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/blake-griffin-the-boss/
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/10/8/6945627/nba-team-profits-cap-maximum-salary
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 16 2014 17:09 GMT
#2110
On October 16 2014 12:18 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 12:16 Disregard wrote:
Nash injuries himself carrying bags. I'm sure its more of back spasms but LOL.

like how boozer injured himself answering the door at night then tripping on his bags?


Remember the rule I propagated earlier:

"Carlos Boozer injured himself answering the door at night and tripping on his bags, while drunk."
Freeeeeeedom
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
October 16 2014 18:31 GMT
#2111
On October 17 2014 00:19 Ace wrote:
http://patternofbasketball.blogspot.com/2014/10/steve-nash-and-two-way-players.html
http://patternofbasketball.blogspot.com/2014/10/steve-nash-hate-hard.html
http://nyloncalculus.com/2014/10/16/putting-point-guards-box/
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/blake-griffin-the-boss/
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/10/8/6945627/nba-team-profits-cap-maximum-salary


Thanks for these links Ace. All of them were interesting reads.

Random thoughts:

Regarding the Nash articles, it's hard to argue against his point that Nash was overrated by virtue of his circumstances (i.e. coach, style of play, team makeup, MARION) and that he probably didn't deserve those MVP awards. I'm a fan of Nash, but I certainly never saw him as good or impactful as Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, or KG during his prime. I saw him as an elite offensive specialist, albeit a brilliant and extremely likeable one, and certainly a tier below two-way stars like those I just named.

The idea of two-way players being better in general than one-way players is an interesting one, and it does carry some weight in terms of making it easier for you to build an effective roster. I don't think it's debatable that it's better to have a star that plays excels on both ends of the court, and that having one makes it so much easier to put players around them since you're not worried about making up for their deficiencies on either end. However, truly elite star players are just rare enough that teams don't really have the luxury of picking and choosing when it comes to acquiring them. Dirk and Nash may be one-way players and harder to build around than two-way players like Duncan and Kidd, but teams are going to do their best to acquire and keep them if the opportunity arises because that level of elite production is just so hard to come by in one player.

The PG style analysis was quite interesting, even if some of the analysis was a little questionable here and there (i.e. picking a "spacing" statistic based on which one Curry comes out on top). I'm not sure if it really adds anything that we didn't already know about those players though.

I was pretty impressed by the Blake article, even though it's likely that someone probably helped him. It was great insight into the situation that the players were thrust into, and how it really was BS for the media, public, talking heads, etc. to question or criticize the Clippers players for not doing the right thing or enough in reaction to the Sterling scandal. They were employees who loved their jobs/careers and were getting compensated very well, and it really wasn't their place to be deciding whether Sterling should have been an owner of the Clippers or not. That issue was, and always has been, within the purview of the league and its commissioner, and David Stern did not get enough heat for letting things go for as long as he did. Then again, it's not like Sterling is the only sports team owner with a questionable past or present.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
October 17 2014 03:37 GMT
#2112
Going to be a brutal year for Lakers.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 17 2014 04:06 GMT
#2113
Exum looked better today.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
October 17 2014 04:44 GMT
#2114
It'd be justifiable for kobe to take 40 shots a night on this team.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
October 17 2014 04:47 GMT
#2115
On October 17 2014 13:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Exum looked better today.


He's gonna be up and down all year. I don't know why people (not saying you are) are death riding the kid so hard.

He's a guy you hope pans out in 4-5 years time, not his rookie season.

He should have gone go college but who'd give up a chance to be a top 5 pick?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-17 05:38:18
October 17 2014 05:33 GMT
#2116
On October 17 2014 13:47 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 13:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Exum looked better today.


He's gonna be up and down all year. I don't know why people (not saying you are) are death riding the kid so hard.

He's a guy you hope pans out in 4-5 years time, not his rookie season.

He should have gone go college but who'd give up a chance to be a top 5 pick?


I swear half the Exum hate is because of Bill Simmons hating on him.

Some things I noticed:

He looks much better when he has the ball in his hands and looks very poor when he is forced to play off the ball.

He has a really quick first step but his finishing around the rim needs to be vastly improved.

He needs to become at least semi threatening from the perimeter because the defense was sagging off him toward the paint which I think will really stem his effectiveness in driving which is where he looks to have the most potential.

To add to that. His team often wasn't passing him the ball when he was wide open from three and instead preferred to take heavily contested shots inside.

Edit: With that being said he shows flashes every game of being a legit star in the future, even in his bad games.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
October 17 2014 06:31 GMT
#2117
On October 17 2014 14:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 13:47 RowdierBob wrote:
On October 17 2014 13:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Exum looked better today.


He's gonna be up and down all year. I don't know why people (not saying you are) are death riding the kid so hard.

He's a guy you hope pans out in 4-5 years time, not his rookie season.

He should have gone go college but who'd give up a chance to be a top 5 pick?


I swear half the Exum hate is because of Bill Simmons hating on him.

Some things I noticed:

He looks much better when he has the ball in his hands and looks very poor when he is forced to play off the ball.

He has a really quick first step but his finishing around the rim needs to be vastly improved.

He needs to become at least semi threatening from the perimeter because the defense was sagging off him toward the paint which I think will really stem his effectiveness in driving which is where he looks to have the most potential.

To add to that. His team often wasn't passing him the ball when he was wide open from three and instead preferred to take heavily contested shots inside.

Edit: With that being said he shows flashes every game of being a legit star in the future, even in his bad games.


I just don't like the pick. His scouting report is just as you say, Elite First Step Guy and nice size. But he's also super young and I don't see him being a positive contributor until his second contract. I think that's all fine, a lot of guys have that kind of career, but the Jazz have been bad for a long time now. And the Burks, Favors, Kanter team is not good. Favors is not good. Kanter is not good. It's an example of a team tanking, thinking it could rebuild on picks, but now? Those picks are coming up on extensions. So. Exum is kind of spinning the wheels.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 17 2014 06:45 GMT
#2118
On October 17 2014 15:31 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 14:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 17 2014 13:47 RowdierBob wrote:
On October 17 2014 13:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Exum looked better today.


He's gonna be up and down all year. I don't know why people (not saying you are) are death riding the kid so hard.

He's a guy you hope pans out in 4-5 years time, not his rookie season.

He should have gone go college but who'd give up a chance to be a top 5 pick?


I swear half the Exum hate is because of Bill Simmons hating on him.

Some things I noticed:

He looks much better when he has the ball in his hands and looks very poor when he is forced to play off the ball.

He has a really quick first step but his finishing around the rim needs to be vastly improved.

He needs to become at least semi threatening from the perimeter because the defense was sagging off him toward the paint which I think will really stem his effectiveness in driving which is where he looks to have the most potential.

To add to that. His team often wasn't passing him the ball when he was wide open from three and instead preferred to take heavily contested shots inside.

Edit: With that being said he shows flashes every game of being a legit star in the future, even in his bad games.


I just don't like the pick. His scouting report is just as you say, Elite First Step Guy and nice size. But he's also super young and I don't see him being a positive contributor until his second contract. I think that's all fine, a lot of guys have that kind of career, but the Jazz have been bad for a long time now. And the Burks, Favors, Kanter team is not good. Favors is not good. Kanter is not good. It's an example of a team tanking, thinking it could rebuild on picks, but now? Those picks are coming up on extensions. So. Exum is kind of spinning the wheels.


I agree that the pick was weird. The Jazz also have burke, burks and hood who all need minutes in the back court in order to develop.

I'm not sure where he is going to fit in the rotation or how they plan on fitting the pieces they have together efficiently.

I actually think one of the scariest things about Exum is that he could have been drafted by the wrong team, and that could stunt his development and confidence.

Before the draft he was saying that he didn't work out for the Jazz because they already had a young point guard, now the Jazz are forced to play him off the ball in order to make their pieces fit even though Exum looks horrible at the 2.

I really don't know how that back court is going to work for the Jazz at all to be honest.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
October 17 2014 07:57 GMT
#2119
On October 17 2014 13:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Exum looked better today.

The Laker effect
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 17 2014 08:35 GMT
#2120


Even in preseason Spurs and Pop trolls NBA fans again. Suns fans given a "gift" or I assume some type of refund by the manager for the shitty game because SA rested everyone besides Parker LOL.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
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