On August 15 2014 12:14 QuanticHawk wrote: JimmyJRaynor was just temp banned for 2 days by Plexa.
That account was created on 2010-04-11 22:42:46 and had 2608 posts.
Reason: Really tired of all the crap that results from you posting in the hockey thread. So why is this only two days long? Because I'm banning you from posting in the hockey topic. Post there again and its instant perm. Feel free to post in any other forum though!
Can't wait to meet the incoming new posters who all
post... like 'this'.
Anyways, Bleacher Report has already put up a (very early) ranking of the top prospects for the 2015 draft. Alright Oilers, this is what you've been training for. It's time to dig-deep, man-down, and find a way to lose. Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
On August 15 2014 12:14 QuanticHawk wrote: JimmyJRaynor was just temp banned for 2 days by Plexa.
That account was created on 2010-04-11 22:42:46 and had 2608 posts.
Reason: Really tired of all the crap that results from you posting in the hockey thread. So why is this only two days long? Because I'm banning you from posting in the hockey topic. Post there again and its instant perm. Feel free to post in any other forum though!
On August 16 2014 01:04 Flaccid wrote: Flames signed Hiller didn't they? That'll probably be enough to keep you guys juuuuuust out of lottery position ;-).
Flames might be fun to watch this year... but we literally have 1 established goal scorers right now (Hudler). Mason Raymond is probably on our top line.
I think we are definitely still in the running for McJesus.
Raymond's probably going to be seeing some possession-driving softer minutes. Possibly 2nd line or on Monahan & Colborne's line.
Lines will probably be:
Glencross - Backlund - Hudler Raymond - Stajan - David Jones Gaudreau - Monahan - Colborne Bollig - Bouma - McGrattan
I think Glencross will have a good year (but still shortened to some random injury) because when Backlund and Giordano -Brodie was on the ice the Flames possession rate was amazing. Glencross and Hudler will have slightly better numbers this year.
This is slightly off topic but I wanted to see what you guys thought. Its a bit of a philosophical discussion. The other day I came across someone's blog about how they were roped into a fantasy league and not knowing too much about the sport their solution was to build a couple of scripts to run a team optimization routine on the draft.
So at first I thought that it was pretty neat, using your nerd power to defeat Brian Burke type 'gut feeling' fellow draftees but I also realized that really the sites that actually run these leagues in a couple of years could offer some type of optimization program to its users as a standard anyway.
And then whats the point of running a league, you basically depend on your draft spot. And then I thought even further and if optimization of player analysis can be taken further to the level of real hockey then why do we need GM's and coaches at all? Have one program called GMbot that just looks for a combo of potential points generation interlaced with salary-cap and another Coachbot who tries to set up favorable lineups and whatnot.
On August 16 2014 02:47 Sub40APM wrote: This is slightly off topic but I wanted to see what you guys thought. Its a bit of a philosophical discussion. The other day I came across someone's blog about how they were roped into a fantasy league and not knowing too much about the sport their solution was to build a couple of scripts to run a team optimization routine on the draft.
So at first I thought that it was pretty neat, using your nerd power to defeat Brian Burke type 'gut feeling' fellow draftees but I also realized that really the sites that actually run these leagues in a couple of years could offer some type of optimization program to its users as a standard anyway.
And then whats the point of running a league, you basically depend on your draft spot. And then I thought even further and if optimization of player analysis can be taken further to the level of real hockey then why do we need GM's and coaches at all? Have one program called GMbot that just looks for a combo of potential points generation interlaced with salary-cap and another Coachbot who tries to set up favorable lineups and whatnot.
While there is a benefit in using data analysis to design a roster, there are many other factors involved. Don't think we would ever see that hypothetical in hockey. And the human element of sports is what defines the drama, wouldn't want to lose that. That's why baseball sucks ass. It really is a bunch of measurables that get thrown into a mixer come playoff time.
On August 16 2014 14:12 Kyhron wrote: Kevin Hayes is apparently not going to sign a deal with the Hawks and is choosing to become a free agent. Where do you think he'll end up going?
Calgary. Him, Johnny, and Billy are too good of friends.
E:
Its not a trio with only two.. Also him and Johnny are currently training together in NJ.
On August 16 2014 02:47 Sub40APM wrote: This is slightly off topic but I wanted to see what you guys thought. Its a bit of a philosophical discussion. The other day I came across someone's blog about how they were roped into a fantasy league and not knowing too much about the sport their solution was to build a couple of scripts to run a team optimization routine on the draft.
So at first I thought that it was pretty neat, using your nerd power to defeat Brian Burke type 'gut feeling' fellow draftees but I also realized that really the sites that actually run these leagues in a couple of years could offer some type of optimization program to its users as a standard anyway.
And then whats the point of running a league, you basically depend on your draft spot. And then I thought even further and if optimization of player analysis can be taken further to the level of real hockey then why do we need GM's and coaches at all? Have one program called GMbot that just looks for a combo of potential points generation interlaced with salary-cap and another Coachbot who tries to set up favorable lineups and whatnot.
well if you can go all out moneyball and build your team that way and still win I mean just go for it, fantasy wise.
But I really think that the coach has a big impact on his team depending on what his system and gameplan is. The coach has a huge impact in game too.
But you are right. Whats the point of having a fantasy league if you dont spend a couple hours doing your homework about who you will draft...?? isnt that the fun part?
I also think it sucks because I have had a good amount of success using a ''gut feeling'' strategy combined with some factual analysis in the past, in both hockey and football fantasy leagues...
I dont think a coach/gmbot would work though. Lesser players that are able to form some esprit de corps together will beat a bunch of guys who have more skill; even if you have the best players in the world on your team, if the fit isnt good, it wont work.
tldr: fuck scripts to build a fantasy team. Why use a script to get rid of the fun?
The Toronto Maple Leafs are living proof that a moneyball type approach to hockey fantasy wouldn't work well anyways. They are always on the bad side of stats and somehow manage to win games.
Besides, doing the work and research yourself and winning would carry a much higher feeling of victory then just using a bot.
On August 16 2014 02:47 Sub40APM wrote: This is slightly off topic but I wanted to see what you guys thought. Its a bit of a philosophical discussion. The other day I came across someone's blog about how they were roped into a fantasy league and not knowing too much about the sport their solution was to build a couple of scripts to run a team optimization routine on the draft.
So at first I thought that it was pretty neat, using your nerd power to defeat Brian Burke type 'gut feeling' fellow draftees but I also realized that really the sites that actually run these leagues in a couple of years could offer some type of optimization program to its users as a standard anyway.
And then whats the point of running a league, you basically depend on your draft spot. And then I thought even further and if optimization of player analysis can be taken further to the level of real hockey then why do we need GM's and coaches at all? Have one program called GMbot that just looks for a combo of potential points generation interlaced with salary-cap and another Coachbot who tries to set up favorable lineups and whatnot.
While there is a benefit in using data analysis to design a roster, there are many other factors involved. Don't think we would ever see that hypothetical in hockey. And the human element of sports is what defines the drama, wouldn't want to lose that. That's why baseball sucks ass. It really is a bunch of measurables that get thrown into a mixer come playoff time.
Baseball sucks ass because it's the most boring sport known to man.
Yes, more boring than golf.
The average baseball viewer is a 54 year old white male. That should tell you a lot.
On August 18 2014 09:08 Orcasgt24 wrote: The Toronto Maple Leafs are living proof that a moneyball type approach to hockey fantasy wouldn't work well anyways. They are always on the bad side of stats and somehow manage to win games.
Besides, doing the work and research yourself and winning would carry a much higher feeling of victory then just using a bot.
Well... they win games for a little bit... You could make the argument that the stats catch up to them in the end typically..
On August 18 2014 09:08 Orcasgt24 wrote: The Toronto Maple Leafs are living proof that a moneyball type approach to hockey fantasy wouldn't work well anyways. They are always on the bad side of stats and somehow manage to win games.
Besides, doing the work and research yourself and winning would carry a much higher feeling of victory then just using a bot.
Well... they win games for a little bit... You could make the argument that the stats catch up to them in the end typically..
Hey stop analyzing my team!!1 We don't need no negativity up in here T_T
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