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woody60707
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SolaR-
United States2685 Posts
On August 28 2014 06:42 ZasZ. wrote: I don't see any rules keeping players from drinking in their off-time, and yet players aren't showing up drunk on game day. Do you have any evidence that would suggest that should the league lift its universal ban on marijuana, players would be toking up before the game? I find that highly unlikely, and if it affected their play or work ethic you would bet they would hear about it from their coaches, and rightfully so. Agreed with it being silly they're not willing to give it up considering what's at stake, but it doesn't mean the rules aren't pants-on-head retarded. You make some good points. I do not think comparing alcohol with marijuana is fair though. Alcohol is a legal substance in all states, marijuana is not. Maybe one day when marijuana is federally legal across the country it may change. The NFL as an organization does not want to endorse an illegal substance. Especially with kids and families being a huge demographic that watches football. If they didn't enforce it, there would be many angry mothers knocking on the NFL's doorstep for "endorsing" marijuana. It's a PR move to punish Josh Gordon and a wise one. As many people have already stated the NFL is funded by sponsors. Money makes the world turn and that's how it's always going to be. | ||
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Shellshock
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AgentW
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Shellshock
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AgentW
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Shellshock
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SolaR-
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On August 28 2014 08:31 SolaR- wrote: You make some good points. I do not think comparing alcohol with marijuana is fair though. Alcohol is a legal substance in all states, marijuana is not. Maybe one day when marijuana is federally legal across the country it may change. The NFL as an organization does not want to endorse an illegal substance. Especially with kids and families being a huge demographic that watches football. If they didn't enforce it, there would be many angry mothers knocking on the NFL's doorstep for "endorsing" marijuana. It's a PR move to punish Josh Gordon and a wise one. As many people have already stated the NFL is funded by sponsors. Money makes the world turn and that's how it's always going to be. Which brings me back to my original point that many NFL rules exist to push an image or satisfy corporate sponsors. Endorsing marijuana would be putting advertisements on television or changing the Redskins to the Washington Hashpipes. Not suspending players for using a substance that isn't performance enhancing doesn't qualify as an endorsement for me. It certainly is illegal in most parts of the country, and police all over the place are responsible for dealing with use and distribution of illegal substances. I fail to see why the NFL believes it should be responsible for policing it further, outside of them doing it to get at the teat of their corporate sponsors. Which is fine, but everyone wants to pretend it's moral high ground. | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On August 28 2014 10:11 Shellshock wrote: Johnson and Thomas were gone but Green, Marshall, and Dez were all there. This is like the worst draft I've ever done so far I think. I feel terrible about it as a whole and it's the first league I'm doing for money. luckily not too much but still. Well you can't really lose a draft straight out of hand. What's your team? | ||
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woody60707
United States1863 Posts
On August 28 2014 10:54 ZasZ. wrote: Which brings me back to my original point that many NFL rules exist to push an image or satisfy corporate sponsors. Endorsing marijuana would be putting advertisements on television or changing the Redskins to the Washington Hashpipes. Not suspending players for using a substance that isn't performance enhancing doesn't qualify as an endorsement for me. It certainly is illegal in most parts of the country, and police all over the place are responsible for dealing with use and distribution of illegal substances. I fail to see why the NFL believes it should be responsible for policing it further, outside of them doing it to get at the teat of their corporate sponsors. Which is fine, but everyone wants to pretend it's moral high ground. You understand with out "corporate sponsors" there wouldn't be a NFL. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On August 28 2014 11:13 AgentW wrote: Well you can't really lose a draft straight out of hand. What's your team? I guess it's not horrible like I was making it out to be. Just a long day. Overall felt a little better towards the end + Show Spoiler + ![]() oh also have Bengals D and Crosby K It won't be the end of the world. My other league draft just went a lot smoother but I'm feeling better about this one | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On August 28 2014 02:51 AgentW wrote: People keep claiming the "second time offense" thing and although it's officially that, to my understanding that's not the number of times he failed the tests. From what I've read, he had to have failed what's probably close to a dozen tests to get this far, to the point where they were testing him daily. I don't think this punishment seems fair considering the circumstances that have been explained, but acting like Gordon just messed up a couple of times is a gross understatement. A lifetime suspension for a third offense at this point would feel necessary for the stupidity of the whole thing. Chris Cooley (former Redskins TE until ~2 years ago, now DC radio guy and broadcaster during games) spent some time explaining the drug policy back when Fred Davis got hit with an "indefinite suspension" sometime back in February. It really isn't much of a anti-drug policy but more of an anti-idiot policy. I am a little fuzzy at this point on all the details, but I believe he said that all players should know when the tests are coming because they could only test at specific times of the year (for example, you know the initial test will occur sometime in June/July) and there were policies in place for how many times they could get tested if the original test came back clean (things were different if they picked something up). So if you could simply hold off on smoking for two specific months of the year and cleared the initial drug test, you could pretty much be high as a kite the rest of the season. Additionally he added that when someone gets tagged with one of these punishments, it isn't for just 1 failed test, but something like a minimum 4 or 5 consecutive failures over a period of weeks. Cooley basically summed it up with you either have to have a serious problem (and need some outside help) or you are complete idiot. | ||
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DyEnasTy
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
fucking roger goodell making my flier on josh gordon a waste | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On August 28 2014 11:21 Shellshock wrote: I guess it's not horrible like I was making it out to be. Just a long day. Overall felt a little better towards the end + Show Spoiler + ![]() oh also have Bengals D and Crosby K It won't be the end of the world. My other league draft just went a lot smoother but I'm feeling better about this one Love your WRs, and Murray has upside. I think Wallace is crap and Sanders is going to be great, so I'd play him all the time. Like Smith as a competent backup and perhaps fish for a breakout guy who might have trade value. That's a fine team in a 12 team league. | ||
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Shellshock
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AgentW
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QuanticHawk
United States32132 Posts
On August 28 2014 05:32 xDaunt wrote: Look on the bright side: at least we're not going to get fucked by Hawk in fantasy football! wait until his injunction gets shot down! he's got no reason not to really. league can't bone him any further. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On August 28 2014 11:25 BloodNinja wrote: Chris Cooley (former Redskins TE until ~2 years ago, now DC radio guy and broadcaster during games) spent some time explaining the drug policy back when Fred Davis got hit with an "indefinite suspension" sometime back in February. It really isn't much of a anti-drug policy but more of an anti-idiot policy. I am a little fuzzy at this point on all the details, but I believe he said that all players should know when the tests are coming because they could only test at specific times of the year (for example, you know the initial test will occur sometime in June/July) and there were policies in place for how many times they could get tested if the original test came back clean (things were different if they picked something up). So if you could simply hold off on smoking for two specific months of the year and cleared the initial drug test, you could pretty much be high as a kite the rest of the season. Additionally he added that when someone gets tagged with one of these punishments, it isn't for just 1 failed test, but something like a minimum 4 or 5 consecutive failures over a period of weeks. Cooley basically summed it up with you either have to have a serious problem (and need some outside help) or you are complete idiot. This needs to be remembered more. | ||
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