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On August 21 2014 01:56 c0ldfusion wrote:Given the current state of things, I personally think that Josh Gordon will have significant playing time this year. If I were drafting between now and when we get official word at the end of the week, I'd grab him in the 9th round at the latest - perhaps earlier depending on the size of the league. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8282/josh-gordon
I don't see 'no settlement' favoring Gordon. If anything it looks more and more likely that he's gone for all 16, because the NFL isn't budging and knows their rules say he's fucked, regardless of how fucked people think the rules are.
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On August 21 2014 02:07 red_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 01:56 c0ldfusion wrote:Given the current state of things, I personally think that Josh Gordon will have significant playing time this year. If I were drafting between now and when we get official word at the end of the week, I'd grab him in the 9th round at the latest - perhaps earlier depending on the size of the league. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8282/josh-gordon I don't see 'no settlement' favoring Gordon. If anything it looks more and more likely that he's gone for all 16, because the NFL isn't budging and knows their rules say he's fucked, regardless of how fucked people think the rules are.
Here's the thing, he can play while the decision is pending.
So the two scenarios where he plays some games are, obviously 1) the last 8 games of the season and the one that people are forgetting, 2) the first x games of the season.
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On August 21 2014 02:13 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 02:07 red_ wrote:On August 21 2014 01:56 c0ldfusion wrote:Given the current state of things, I personally think that Josh Gordon will have significant playing time this year. If I were drafting between now and when we get official word at the end of the week, I'd grab him in the 9th round at the latest - perhaps earlier depending on the size of the league. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8282/josh-gordon I don't see 'no settlement' favoring Gordon. If anything it looks more and more likely that he's gone for all 16, because the NFL isn't budging and knows their rules say he's fucked, regardless of how fucked people think the rules are. Here's the thing, he can play while the decision is pending. So the two scenarios where he plays some games are, obviously 1) the last 8 games of the season and the one that people are forgetting, 2) the first x games of the season.
Yeah I don't see the harm in spending a late round flier on him if you think he'll actually play. God knows most of the players I get that late don't stay on my team very long anyways.
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I'm not letting him slip past 9.
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You're essentially getting a first or second rounder if he does play. I am totally comfortable taking a swing in the 9th or later. That's right about the area where you are taking chances on guys like rookies or players who will either bust or boom due to injury or something. Few, if any, players in that range have his ceiling.
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What do you do with him in auction formats then? It's not a matter of choosing when to gamble, everyone has a crack at him. Like $20?
EDIT: Reports are that Gordon's going to be all or nothing, but he can file an injunction in Ohio if his appeal is not overturned. I think I might be bumping him up my board.
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On August 21 2014 06:14 AgentW wrote:
What do you do with him in auction formats then? It's not a matter of choosing when to gamble, everyone has a crack at him. Like $20?
EDIT: Reports are that Gordon's going to be all or nothing, but he can file an injunction in Ohio if his appeal is not overturned. I think I might be bumping him up my board.
What? no man, $20 is too much right now.
Looks it's a little bit hard to read the tea leaves right now given his loafing about in the pre-season game. But historically speaking, the longer it takes for a decision to come down the more beneficial it is to the player.
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God I hope I don't get a draft position after 5th. I have no idea what to do in that range...
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On August 21 2014 06:41 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 06:14 AgentW wrote:
What do you do with him in auction formats then? It's not a matter of choosing when to gamble, everyone has a crack at him. Like $20?
EDIT: Reports are that Gordon's going to be all or nothing, but he can file an injunction in Ohio if his appeal is not overturned. I think I might be bumping him up my board. What? no man, $20 is too much right now. Looks it's a little bit hard to read the tea leaves right now given his loafing about in the pre-season game. But historically speaking, the longer it takes for a decision to come down the more beneficial it is to the player.
He managed to be the top scorer in my league after only 14 games of the crap that was Jason Cambell, Brandon Weeden, and Brian Hoyer. Why would $20 be too much? Top receivers likely to go in the $45 or $50 range in my league.
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On August 21 2014 07:25 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 06:41 c0ldfusion wrote:On August 21 2014 06:14 AgentW wrote:
What do you do with him in auction formats then? It's not a matter of choosing when to gamble, everyone has a crack at him. Like $20?
EDIT: Reports are that Gordon's going to be all or nothing, but he can file an injunction in Ohio if his appeal is not overturned. I think I might be bumping him up my board. What? no man, $20 is too much right now. Looks it's a little bit hard to read the tea leaves right now given his loafing about in the pre-season game. But historically speaking, the longer it takes for a decision to come down the more beneficial it is to the player. He managed to be the top scorer in my league after only 14 games of the crap that was Jason Cambell, Brandon Weeden, and Brian Hoyer. Why would $20 be too much? Top receivers likely to go in the $45 or $50 range in my league.
Sounds like your budget is at least $200? I guess that's reasonable then. Still a tad high for me at this point in time.
Anyway, I know the stats, I had him last year.
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On August 21 2014 07:11 DannyJ wrote:
God I hope I don't get a draft position after 5th. I have no idea what to do in that range...
pick calvin johnson or jimmy graham and never look back. #livethedream.
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On August 21 2014 11:24 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 07:25 AgentW wrote:On August 21 2014 06:41 c0ldfusion wrote:On August 21 2014 06:14 AgentW wrote:
What do you do with him in auction formats then? It's not a matter of choosing when to gamble, everyone has a crack at him. Like $20?
EDIT: Reports are that Gordon's going to be all or nothing, but he can file an injunction in Ohio if his appeal is not overturned. I think I might be bumping him up my board. What? no man, $20 is too much right now. Looks it's a little bit hard to read the tea leaves right now given his loafing about in the pre-season game. But historically speaking, the longer it takes for a decision to come down the more beneficial it is to the player. He managed to be the top scorer in my league after only 14 games of the crap that was Jason Cambell, Brandon Weeden, and Brian Hoyer. Why would $20 be too much? Top receivers likely to go in the $45 or $50 range in my league. Sounds like your budget is at least $200? I guess that's reasonable then. Still a tad high for me at this point in time. Anyway, I know the stats, I had him last year.
Sorry, $200 budget with 14 teams. Lots of money.
Didn't mean it like that about his production. Merely wanted to point out that if the money was pro rated it comes out to about $23.
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On August 21 2014 12:08 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 07:11 DannyJ wrote:
God I hope I don't get a draft position after 5th. I have no idea what to do in that range... pick calvin johnson or jimmy graham and never look back. #livethedream.
this. if either are off, maybe go with peyton or rodgers.
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On August 21 2014 12:08 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 07:11 DannyJ wrote:
God I hope I don't get a draft position after 5th. I have no idea what to do in that range... pick calvin johnson or jimmy graham and never look back. #livethedream.
Yeah but which one AHH!!!!!!!
I think I'd be somewhat scared to take Calvin this year. I mean, I still obviously would if i could get him like late 1st, but that nagging knee injury that basically made him miss every practice last year and the absurd physical laboring (aka terrible Stafford prayers he had to try to catch) took a massive toll on him the last part of the season. I also don't think people like Bryant, Greene and D. Thomas are super far behind Megatron in terms of possible production.
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On August 21 2014 12:37 QuanticHawk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 12:08 Sermokala wrote:On August 21 2014 07:11 DannyJ wrote:
God I hope I don't get a draft position after 5th. I have no idea what to do in that range... pick calvin johnson or jimmy graham and never look back. #livethedream. this. if either are off, maybe go with peyton or rodgers.
full disclosure, Hawk picked Lacy @ 6th in our league.
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On August 21 2014 12:55 DannyJ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 12:08 Sermokala wrote:On August 21 2014 07:11 DannyJ wrote:
God I hope I don't get a draft position after 5th. I have no idea what to do in that range... pick calvin johnson or jimmy graham and never look back. #livethedream. Yeah but which one AHH!!!!!!! I think I'd be somewhat scared to take Calvin this year. I mean, I still obviously would if i could get him like late 1st, but that nagging knee injury that basically made him miss every practice last year and the absurd physical laboring (aka terrible Stafford prayers he had to try to catch) took a massive toll on him the last part of the season. I also don't think people like Bryant, Greene and D. Thomas are super far behind Megatron in terms of possible production.
Yes, Dez and DT are not too far behind Megatron in terms of projection. An argument can be made for any of the 3 to finish 1st among WRs. But at the end of the day Megatron is a better overall talent than those two (AJ isn't really in the conversation among the 3 in terms of pure talent). I took Megatron @ 7th this year. The injury risk is probably a tad overblown. DT, and to a lesser extent Dez, has an injury history too. I remember the scares I had over the years with all 3 guys.
Look, I like all these elite receivers but Megatron is still the best among the bunch.
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On August 21 2014 21:18 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 12:37 QuanticHawk wrote:On August 21 2014 12:08 Sermokala wrote:On August 21 2014 07:11 DannyJ wrote:
God I hope I don't get a draft position after 5th. I have no idea what to do in that range... pick calvin johnson or jimmy graham and never look back. #livethedream. this. if either are off, maybe go with peyton or rodgers. full disclosure, Hawk picked Lacy @ 6th in our league.
I am late so that was auto. But yeah, I'd def have taken Megatron or Graham there. Lacy's fine though. He's probably the last of the genuine top teir RBs there.
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On August 21 2014 23:01 QuanticHawk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 21:18 c0ldfusion wrote:On August 21 2014 12:37 QuanticHawk wrote:On August 21 2014 12:08 Sermokala wrote:On August 21 2014 07:11 DannyJ wrote:
God I hope I don't get a draft position after 5th. I have no idea what to do in that range... pick calvin johnson or jimmy graham and never look back. #livethedream. this. if either are off, maybe go with peyton or rodgers. full disclosure, Hawk picked Lacy @ 6th in our league. I am late so that was auto. But yeah, I'd def have taken Megatron or Graham there. Lacy's fine though. He's probably the last of the genuine top teir RBs there.
I'd expect Lacy to be one of the top 3 backs this year. He'll have an easier time running this year than last year with Rodgers under center. Teams won't be able to sell out against the run as much.
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I don't question how good lacy is. But green bay's run offense had been terrible for years no matter who was in there. It always scares me off taking lacy so early
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I'm just scared of taking 2nd year running backs - especially the ones who had multiple injuries and a near full workload the previous year.
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