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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
May 10 2014 20:02 GMT
#741
Did Jacksonville get the memo?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-11 00:05:56
May 10 2014 20:59 GMT
#742
On May 11 2014 03:39 Shellshock wrote:
Logan Thomas has to be a TE pick right? He's not good enough to be a qb


On May 11 2014 04:04 AgentW wrote:
He was very well regarded as a TE out of high school, and he's a terrible QB, so it makes sense.


Hes not a terrible QB, hes just an extremely raw QB prospect that will need at least 2-3 years of work before you will see anything from him. As a VT fan I saw a metric ton of his games and can say all the physical tools are there and occasionally you would see flashes of being ridiculously good. Unfortunately, he was also massively inconsistent and could never string a couple of those flashes together.

That all said, Logan Thomas was massively overrated after his first year. That offense was fairly solid despite their embarrassing offensive game plans and play-calling (Stinespring's firing was about 5 years too late). Unfortunately, over the next two years, the talent that was there during that first season was either drafted or graduated and was not replaced. This exposed the many flaws that you would expect from a raw prospect (and people began to point them out instead of just glossing over them).
Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
May 10 2014 23:31 GMT
#743
Michael Sam in round 7 is great value. SEC defensive player of the year.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 10 2014 23:53 GMT
#744
On May 11 2014 08:31 Intact wrote:
Michael Sam in round 7 is great value. SEC defensive player of the year.

I'm just glad that he was picked so that now we won't have to hear about how homophobic the NFL is for weeks.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 11 2014 01:51 GMT
#745
On May 11 2014 08:53 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2014 08:31 Intact wrote:
Michael Sam in round 7 is great value. SEC defensive player of the year.

I'm just glad that he was picked so that now we won't have to hear about how homophobic the NFL is for weeks.

Well it would be odd, he's a good player his measurables aren't that great and he didn't wow people at pro days or combine but past performance alone should warrant a pick in the 5-7th round easy. So it be weird if he was snubbed.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
May 11 2014 02:20 GMT
#746


i swear he's high on coke or something
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 11 2014 02:42 GMT
#747
Harbaugh is clearly off kilter just a little bit, he wears the same clothes everyday he's a goddam sitcom character. But alot of renowned people are like that.
Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
May 11 2014 08:04 GMT
#748
Aj McCarron going 5th round is insane when you look at his stats and the fact that he is very much what you consider a pro ready type of guy.
According to media he dropped due to personality concerns, apparently he came of as very cocky and spoiled in his team meetings. Still great value for a 5th rounder imo.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
May 11 2014 08:48 GMT
#749
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000349446/article/no-texas-longhorns-selected-in-nfl-draft-for-first-time-since-1937

Pretty amazing statistic.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-11 17:33:40
May 11 2014 17:32 GMT
#750
From the ESPN article on it
Texas was one of just four schools from college football's five power conferences (Big 12, SEC, ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12) to suffer the ignominious feat. Illinois, Northwestern, and fellow Big 12 member Kansas were the others.

...

Among the schools that also had at least one player drafted, or more than Texas: Lindenwood, Pittsburg State, Bloomsburg (Penn.), McGill, Maine, Concordia (St. Paul), Northwest Missouri State, Saginaw Valley and Princeton.

In addition, 14 players were selected from schools in the state of Texas.

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Notre Dame now has the longest streak of at least one player drafted at 77 straight years. The Fighting Irish and Longhorns had entered this drafted tied for the longest streaks.


Pretty crazy. It also mentions that the 5th year seniors that would be leaving Texas would have been part of the #2 ranked high school recruiting class at the time
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
May 11 2014 18:22 GMT
#751
Wow, I guess I might have been wrong in my defense of Mack Brown.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
May 11 2014 19:38 GMT
#752
jeffcoat is really the only one out of the bunch that should have gotten drafted (maybe whaley). someone's gonna pick him up as an undrafted FA and get a solid player out of him (although he is pretty raw).

poor coaching at UT really hurt those guys' development
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 11 2014 19:40 GMT
#753
On May 12 2014 04:38 TheMusiC wrote:
jeffcoat is really the only one out of the bunch that should have gotten drafted (maybe whaley). someone's gonna pick him up as an undrafted FA and get a solid player out of him (although he is pretty raw).

poor coaching at UT really hurt those guys' development

looks like the Seahawks are going to give him a shot
http://fansided.com/2014/05/10/undrafted-free-agents-2014-seattle-seahawks-sign-jackson-jeffcoat-demonte-mcallister/#!MlUF2
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-11 20:07:05
May 11 2014 19:59 GMT
#754
On May 12 2014 02:32 Shellshock wrote:
From the ESPN article on it
Show nested quote +
Texas was one of just four schools from college football's five power conferences (Big 12, SEC, ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12) to suffer the ignominious feat. Illinois, Northwestern, and fellow Big 12 member Kansas were the others.

...

Among the schools that also had at least one player drafted, or more than Texas: Lindenwood, Pittsburg State, Bloomsburg (Penn.), McGill, Maine, Concordia (St. Paul), Northwest Missouri State, Saginaw Valley and Princeton.

In addition, 14 players were selected from schools in the state of Texas.

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Notre Dame now has the longest streak of at least one player drafted at 77 straight years. The Fighting Irish and Longhorns had entered this drafted tied for the longest streaks.


Pretty crazy. It also mentions that the 5th year seniors that would be leaving Texas would have been part of the #2 ranked high school recruiting class at the time

Wow. I had no idea that Brown had dropped that big of a deuce on the UT program.

As for the Niners draft, I'm really surprised that they didn't move up once to grab anyone. They must really not have liked the talent that was available -- particularly in the first around. Of course, I expressed similar dismay last year when they didn't move up to grab any corners (particularly the first round guys, though they did get Eric Reid), and it seems like Baalke made a pretty good call in retrospect.

He addressed the core needs, albeit in a roundabout way. The first round pick played safety, but it seems like he'll actually be a slot corner, which we need. Picking up Hyde suggests that Lattimore isn't ready (and may never be). The Stevie Johnson trade was a really good move. With the pickup of Ellington, the Niner receiver corp actually looks pretty good: Crabtree, Boldin, Johnson, Patton, Ellington, and Osgood (special teams). Lloyd and Baldwin will be cut, which is fine. The only thing that I wonder about is whether any of the late round corner pickups will be worth a damn. The Niners need at least one of those guys to be a player that they can use.

All in all, I can't really complain. It would have been nice if they had traded more picks for next year. A few of those guys who were drafted are probably going to end up on other teams, even considering the 2-3 players that will be redshirted.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
May 12 2014 04:46 GMT
#755
Interesting article on how two Florida DB's, Marcus Roberson and Louchiez Purifoy - seen as draftable players from a talent standpoint, went undrafted this year.

http://www.alligatorarmy.com/2014/5/11/5707056/loucheiz-purifoy-marcus-roberson-undrafted-udfa-2014-nfl-draft
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 12 2014 17:26 GMT
#756
Sam gets picked(after numerous predictions he would go undrafted) and that's still not good enough for the media. Tons of bitching about how he fell to the late 7th and how it's obviously because the NFL is still immature and bigoted and homophobic as a whole entity, apparently even the Rams who waited til the final moment to grab him.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 12 2014 17:34 GMT
#757
lol well I guess this thing was kind of expected anyways. even though teams had him listed from late 6-7th to undrafted on their boards just from talent it was always going to be turned into the NFL's stance on gay players. Let me guess, they are throwing around things like "every SEC Defensive player of the year for 8 years has gone in the 1st round but this guy didnt" blah blah blah. He got drafted where his talent dictated but that story doesn't sell
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 12 2014 17:37 GMT
#758
On May 13 2014 02:26 red_ wrote:
Sam gets picked(after numerous predictions he would go undrafted) and that's still not good enough for the media. Tons of bitching about how he fell to the late 7th and how it's obviously because the NFL is still immature and bigoted and homophobic as a whole entity, apparently even the Rams who waited til the final moment to grab him.

If he turns into a powerhouse pass rusher, great. It just isn't likely to happen, which is why many thought that he'd go undrafted. But that's all besides the point.

The fact that he's gay and openly came out creates publicity issues that no one really wants to deal with. There are lots of other marginal players that the Rams could have taken that wouldn't have carried the same baggage that Sam brings with him. And frankly, the problem isn't really whatever homophobic sentiments that may be out there. The problem is that GLBT advocacy groups are going to be shining a spotlight up the Rams' ass for the foreseeable future and simply won't be able to keep their mouths shut.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
May 12 2014 17:41 GMT
#759
So what's the deal with Lattimore? I assume that the niners taking a rb early means he isn't 100% yet.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 12 2014 17:43 GMT
#760
Hyde seems like more of a replacement for the style of RB that Lattimore is rather than someone like James so I took it as a sign that his recovery isn't where they want it to be but I haven't sen anything specific about it.
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