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LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
April 02 2014 04:41 GMT
#381
On April 02 2014 10:23 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 15:40 LeeDawg wrote:
I agree with Hawk. The Rams are solid in the trenches, can run the ball and rush the passer. Some explosive weapons on the perimeter, and a stronger secondary could push them into the playoff race. The move for Britt may also take them out of the equation for picking Sammy Watkins and make them more likely to trade down and stockpile picks. At least two of the three supposed top QBs in this years draft, and possibly Clowney will be there at #2. It's likely they'll find someone who is willing to make a move.

They should still take Watkins at #2. This Britt deal is only a prove to us you aren't complete shit. To pass on Watkins because of Britt is laughable. The second pick only has great value if the Texans don't draft Clowney. The QB stocks continue to spiral down. Lets not forget they don't need to stockpile too much they have the best available OL at #13.


I agree they SHOULD take Watkins, but their front office may disagree. besides, if they can move down just a few picks, grab a Mike Evans, and have another early second or third rounder, I think that'd be the optimal move. They'd address a big need, and be able to plug other holes on their roster.
:-)
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 02 2014 04:55 GMT
#382
On April 02 2014 10:23 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 15:40 LeeDawg wrote:
I agree with Hawk. The Rams are solid in the trenches, can run the ball and rush the passer. Some explosive weapons on the perimeter, and a stronger secondary could push them into the playoff race. The move for Britt may also take them out of the equation for picking Sammy Watkins and make them more likely to trade down and stockpile picks. At least two of the three supposed top QBs in this years draft, and possibly Clowney will be there at #2. It's likely they'll find someone who is willing to make a move.

They should still take Watkins at #2. This Britt deal is only a prove to us you aren't complete shit. To pass on Watkins because of Britt is laughable. The second pick only has great value if the Texans don't draft Clowney. The QB stocks continue to spiral down. Lets not forget they don't need to stockpile too much they have the best available OL at #13.

Frankly, the Rams should trade down so that they can fill more holes. They don't need more receivers unless they think they fucked up last draft with their picks (I don't think they did).
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
April 02 2014 09:13 GMT
#383
I would be satisfied if the vikings were able to pick up khalil mack and then a QB in the second or third round. maybe even AJ mcaarron if he falls far enough. He has experience handing the ball off and is good at not loseing games. These are skills the vikings are looking for.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
April 02 2014 10:48 GMT
#384
On April 02 2014 10:23 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 15:40 LeeDawg wrote:
I agree with Hawk. The Rams are solid in the trenches, can run the ball and rush the passer. Some explosive weapons on the perimeter, and a stronger secondary could push them into the playoff race. The move for Britt may also take them out of the equation for picking Sammy Watkins and make them more likely to trade down and stockpile picks. At least two of the three supposed top QBs in this years draft, and possibly Clowney will be there at #2. It's likely they'll find someone who is willing to make a move.

They should still take Watkins at #2. This Britt deal is only a prove to us you aren't complete shit. To pass on Watkins because of Britt is laughable. The second pick only has great value if the Texans don't draft Clowney. The QB stocks continue to spiral down. Lets not forget they don't need to stockpile too much they have the best available OL at #13.


Eh, IMO Robinson, Matthews and Lewan are the consensus 'top-tier' tackles in the draft. Everything after that is iffy. There's a big chance those three will be off the board by #13.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
April 02 2014 11:09 GMT
#385


16 million guaranteed, never change Daniel Snyder.
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Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
April 02 2014 11:55 GMT
#386
Sounds like a lot of capspace.

Is it just me or do high paid receivers besides Calvin Johnson tend to disappoint?
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 02 2014 13:27 GMT
#387
To some extent, because they're generally overpaid. We live in a world in which Golden Tate makes over $6 million per year on average.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 02 2014 20:17 GMT
#388
Tate will earn that money, most competent receiver to line up with Megatron. Unlike the Britt pickup this allows them to not have to draft a WR in the first round.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 02 2014 20:19 GMT
#389
lmao DJAX
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24511334/desean-jackson-is-hoping-robert-griffin-will-switch-to-no-3
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 02 2014 20:45 GMT
#390
On April 03 2014 05:17 Irave wrote:
Tate will earn that money, most competent receiver to line up with Megatron. Unlike the Britt pickup this allows them to not have to draft a WR in the first round.

I've expressed my view on Tate before here, so pardon the rehash, but when you're paying three (three!!) guys a combined $45 million dollars annually, you don't have the money to throw around at a guy who has never caught for a 900 yard season when they're not even on your roster to begin with.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 21:11:41
April 02 2014 21:08 GMT
#391
They're just looking to the future of a salary cap that is going to grow out of control. Seattle would have paid him that much, if they weren't being spread so thin currently. His numbers aren't mind blowing great, but that's product of being on a run first team. His footage clearly showed he was worth an investment, and well now he finds home at a pass happy team. Besides its not uncommon for a team with a few stars to toss 45 million at 3 players.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 02 2014 22:18 GMT
#392
That's just not true. They have three of the top 21 players based on average salary and two in the top ten. Only one other team has two in the top 21, and that's Green Bay.

http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/average/
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 02 2014 22:49 GMT
#393
That's just the bind teams without rookie salary QB's find themselves in. They have an adequate QB that needs to get paid, the best WR in the league, and the most love to hate DT. Other teams would pay these players more if they had the chance. Owners are smart and saw the salary cap raising. The had to figure something would have to change when you can pay a great portion of your team in peanuts then end up being forced to lose them since you can't pay a competitive salary.

The Lions were never going to get a chance at Watkins or Evans. Now if Tate does explode which should be expected they look smart, because now they are free to lock down another need in the first round and pay in peanuts.

That list you linked will get flipped turned upside down when players come off their rookie contracts. Its only noticeable now because the Lions have had their talents longer. Then a handful of other teams will be in their predicament, even though they may only currently be spending 35+ million on 3 players, yet have their stars waiting to cash in.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 02 2014 23:00 GMT
#394
On April 02 2014 19:48 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 10:23 Irave wrote:
On April 01 2014 15:40 LeeDawg wrote:
I agree with Hawk. The Rams are solid in the trenches, can run the ball and rush the passer. Some explosive weapons on the perimeter, and a stronger secondary could push them into the playoff race. The move for Britt may also take them out of the equation for picking Sammy Watkins and make them more likely to trade down and stockpile picks. At least two of the three supposed top QBs in this years draft, and possibly Clowney will be there at #2. It's likely they'll find someone who is willing to make a move.

They should still take Watkins at #2. This Britt deal is only a prove to us you aren't complete shit. To pass on Watkins because of Britt is laughable. The second pick only has great value if the Texans don't draft Clowney. The QB stocks continue to spiral down. Lets not forget they don't need to stockpile too much they have the best available OL at #13.


Eh, IMO Robinson, Matthews and Lewan are the consensus 'top-tier' tackles in the draft. Everything after that is iffy. There's a big chance those three will be off the board by #13.

Well with the Lions not having the raging need for a WR, I could see them drafting one of them with the second, then scooping up Evans with #13.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 02 2014 23:49 GMT
#395
On April 03 2014 07:49 Irave wrote:
That's just the bind teams without rookie salary QB's find themselves in. They have an adequate QB that needs to get paid, the best WR in the league, and the most love to hate DT. Other teams would pay these players more if they had the chance. Owners are smart and saw the salary cap raising. The had to figure something would have to change when you can pay a great portion of your team in peanuts then end up being forced to lose them since you can't pay a competitive salary.

The Lions were never going to get a chance at Watkins or Evans. Now if Tate does explode which should be expected they look smart, because now they are free to lock down another need in the first round and pay in peanuts.

That list you linked will get flipped turned upside down when players come off their rookie contracts. Its only noticeable now because the Lions have had their talents longer. Then a handful of other teams will be in their predicament, even though they may only currently be spending 35+ million on 3 players, yet have their stars waiting to cash in.

My point is that none of the other teams without rookie QBs are in the same position. It makes no sense to use what little discretionary dollars they have on a WR that they have to overpay at best, gamble at worst, to get.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 03 2014 01:56 GMT
#396
At the time of the signing Tate was the best FA WR. They couldn't attract any of the big prolific signings in other positions. With Tates age, hands and versatility he is being paid a proper amount for being a WR #2. With upside of possibly being a return man for them.

On average the Lions are spending 8 million more a year on their top 3 players than the rest of the league. Which includes the best WR, better than most QB and a top 3 DT.

If not Tate, where do you place that 6 million to make the Lions better?

AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 03 2014 02:09 GMT
#397
To be honest, I don't have a better solution because I don't know the team well enough, but I know their passing game has been very good. I think I heard about some line instability, but I could be mistaken. Your thoughts?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 03 2014 02:24 GMT
#398
Their passing game is good. The thought of it becoming better with Tate is amazing. Imagine a game where Megatron isn't frequently getting triple covered. A WR lining up next to him that will have to be respected, they haven't had this before. Then having Bush/Bell in the backfield, its going to be crazy. Tate might not have the best season flashy stats. However Golden Tate has dropped 5 of 149 catchable passes in the last 3 seasons, lowest rate of any WR. He had nearly 900 yards in a run first offense with Percy Harvin hurt nearly all of the season. The Seahawks OL ranked 32nd in pass protection too. I think people just underestimate him too much, he was a blast to watch in Seattle. Now they can freely just pick the best player available, jaws will drop if they do pick Evans if he falls that far.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 03 2014 03:05 GMT
#399
Interesting, Football Outsiders had them at 24th in offensive DVOA and 11th in defensive DVOA. Perhaps I overestimated their offense.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3820 Posts
April 03 2014 03:51 GMT
#400
So according to NFL.com's new bracket competition

Donovan McNabb is a top-4 all time quarterback :D
: o )
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