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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
September 30 2014 19:10 GMT
#2681
I'm probably going to be shouted down like last year, but I'll say it again anyway: is it possible that Tom Brady isn't good anymore?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
September 30 2014 19:12 GMT
#2682
Yes.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 30 2014 19:13 GMT
#2683
On October 01 2014 04:10 AgentW wrote:
I'm probably going to be shouted down like last year, but I'll say it again anyway: is it possible that Tom Brady isn't good anymore?

Eh, it's kinda hard to evaluate a quarterback when the rest of his team is so obviously deficient. Let's be honest: which part of that Pats offense is good? Not the O line. Not the receivers. Not the running backs. The end is clearly coming for Brady, but I don't think that he can be blamed for where the Pats are at. I'd blame the front office for bad drafting and player management.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
September 30 2014 19:18 GMT
#2684
On October 01 2014 04:13 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2014 04:10 AgentW wrote:
I'm probably going to be shouted down like last year, but I'll say it again anyway: is it possible that Tom Brady isn't good anymore?

Eh, it's kinda hard to evaluate a quarterback when the rest of his team is so obviously deficient. Let's be honest: which part of that Pats offense is good? Not the O line. Not the receivers. Not the running backs. The end is clearly coming for Brady, but I don't think that he can be blamed for where the Pats are at. I'd blame the front office for bad drafting and player management.

That's fair, but I think we can pin his lack of mobility on him. If the pocket's breaking down, you can't be a statue. I suppose the same could be said of Manning should he be put in that position. I don't know what to think now.
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
September 30 2014 19:21 GMT
#2685
He has Edelmann and Gronkowski. If Amendola can thrive with Sam Bradford I'm sure it's not entirely his fault that he isn't getting as many looks - he's proved to be capable though injury prone. Ridley and Vereen aren't exactly terrible - they aren't studs but they can be worked with. And I think even Brandon Lafell can perform as the #3 target.

Point is he has enough weapons - not to the extent of Manning, Brees, or Cutler, but I would at least like to see him perform as well as Rivers, who can make even Eddie Royal look good half the time.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 30 2014 20:18 GMT
#2686
On October 01 2014 04:21 Souma wrote:
He has Edelmann and Gronkowski. If Amendola can thrive with Sam Bradford I'm sure it's not entirely his fault that he isn't getting as many looks - he's proved to be capable though injury prone. Ridley and Vereen aren't exactly terrible - they aren't studs but they can be worked with. And I think even Brandon Lafell can perform as the #3 target.

Point is he has enough weapons - not to the extent of Manning, Brees, or Cutler, but I would at least like to see him perform as well as Rivers, who can make even Eddie Royal look good half the time.

Edelmann isn't exactly a barnstormer. Gronk clearly hasn't been himself and is still hurt. Amendola is not that good. Ridley and Vereen are okay, but no running back is going to look great behind that Pats O line. This very clearly is the worst collection of talent that Brady has had to play with on offense in a very long time -- maybe ever. A hyper-mobile quarterback would do better just because he'd be able to buy more time, but that's just not what Brady is.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
September 30 2014 20:35 GMT
#2687
Edelmann is great, I have no idea what you're talking about. Gronk is still better than most TEs. Amendola has proven to be a great player but hasn't done anything in the Pats' offense, and that's more of an indictment on the Pats/Brady than it is Amendola tbh. I mean this guy did well on a team with even less weapons, a worse Oline, and a worse QB. If Brady can't make his weapons better like elite QBs generally do then that's just another mark against him. Honestly he's just not great. The very fact that he needs a ton of good weapons to be productive opens him up to criticism. Shane Vereen is averaging 4.4 yards a carry this season btw. Their run game isn't as horrid as you make them sound.
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 30 2014 21:19 GMT
#2688
The receivers and the backs should be ok if the line is playing well. The line has just been playing very badly.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-30 22:49:03
September 30 2014 22:45 GMT
#2689
Yeah the line is throwing their entire offense out of whack. Hard to tell what else is wrong when that's the case.

Last night the absurd crowd noise made it even worse I'm sure.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 30 2014 23:37 GMT
#2690
On October 01 2014 04:10 AgentW wrote:
I'm probably going to be shouted down like last year, but I'll say it again anyway: is it possible that Tom Brady isn't good anymore?

I'm pretty sure I shouted you down last year, but this year I dunno D: he has looked inaccurate and sub par overall

Sad to be a Pats fan right now
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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
October 01 2014 00:33 GMT
#2691
The Pats should work with their new receivers instead of scratching them every game. Dobson and Thompkins are clearly the future WR corp in New England, but instead of putting big body WRs out there they struggle for underneath nickle and dime bull shit.
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sch0n
Profile Joined January 2012
Norway81 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-01 06:20:55
October 01 2014 05:55 GMT
#2692
Above 170 (3rb/3wr) points on fantasy this week. Gosh I'm starting to love my team:

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Any thoughts on where I go from here?

My reciever-corps initially was Jackson, Hilton and T. Smith, all of them benched now. I think I might throw V. Jackson back in with Glennon finding rythm in TB.

Will Knile Davis still be a viable flex with J. Charles back in action?

I traded Lacy (my 1st round pick) for C. Patterson. Good or bad?

Just threw in a trade for G. Bernard, in which I trade away M. Bennett, TY Hilton and Steve Smith. Might be a risky one, but I'll be well covered in the RB-department at least.
Hey-o! What's up, bitches!
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
October 01 2014 06:00 GMT
#2693
Trading Lacy for Patterson is lunacy...
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
October 01 2014 06:14 GMT
#2694
Yeah it is. Not a huge fan of your team. Don't ride the hot hands blindly. Hilton has to be the play over Royal. Foles over Eli for me as well. You're really weak at RB.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
sch0n
Profile Joined January 2012
Norway81 Posts
October 01 2014 06:26 GMT
#2695
Yeah, I'm thinking it's a lunacy one as well. Tried for Maclin, but he didn't bite. So I ended up with Patterson.

Royal was a match-up pick up for the Jags-match, as well as Eli vs Redskins. Worked out pretty good.

Weak at RB? Wouldn't say that. Lacy did not deliver for me at all.
Hey-o! What's up, bitches!
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
October 01 2014 06:27 GMT
#2696
Starting Eli manning over foles is crazy talk, even after last week
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
October 01 2014 06:28 GMT
#2697
I just today traded cousins for spiller. I already have foles and bridgewater on my team so I feel like a made out like a bandit on this one
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sch0n
Profile Joined January 2012
Norway81 Posts
October 01 2014 06:39 GMT
#2698
I'll start Eli vs Redskins over Foles vs 'Niners every time.
Hey-o! What's up, bitches!
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23930 Posts
October 01 2014 06:46 GMT
#2699
LED BY AN EXCEPTIONAL WIDEOUT CORPS, GREEN HORIZONS IS POISED FOR THE LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP

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A
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1

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73.4%


According to the NFL.com draft recap.... My record 0-4...

Time to start a run /hopes
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
sch0n
Profile Joined January 2012
Norway81 Posts
October 01 2014 06:50 GMT
#2700
On October 01 2014 15:28 Aveng3r wrote:
I just today traded cousins for spiller. I already have foles and bridgewater on my team so I feel like a made out like a bandit on this one


Wow, that's brilliant! I would almost feel very bad for the other half of the trade! He was sold on Cousins like every expert on the NFL was, I guess!
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