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On September 26 2014 13:27 Shellshock wrote: is there anyone who likes Thursday night games? The players hate them too right? as someone living on the other side of the Atlantic, I hate all night games.
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On September 26 2014 15:02 Souma wrote: Doesn't mean you start Bradshaw over Forte after two games, which was what he was arguing about in the first place.
It does when one team is the fucking JAGUARS and the other is the JETS. When one is known for it's stingy running D and the other is known for being an embarrassment. Are you all really that dense?
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The only one who's being dense is you, trying to argue against everyone that tells you don't be cute three games into the season. With a player like Matt Forte, who doesn't just run but is a damn good receiver as well, it doesn't matter if he's against a stout run defense, because he has way more upside than an inferior player like Bradshaw even if Bradshaw is against the Jaguars. It's not like it's hard to imagine Forte catching a pass and taking it to the house against the Jets. Meanwhile you always gotta worry about Bradshaw making the most of every single touch he gets because he's splitting time. Even against a poor run defense it's hard to expect all that much with so little touches. Just because it happened to turn out well this time doesn't mean it was the right decision pre-20/20 hindsight. After one or two more games of Forte doing bad, then it'll be time to reconsider.
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On September 26 2014 16:43 Souma wrote: The only one who's being dense is you, trying to argue against everyone that tells you don't be cute three games into the season. With a player like Matt Forte, who doesn't just run but is a damn good receiver as well, it doesn't matter if he's against a stout run defense, because he has way more upside than an inferior player like Bradshaw even if Bradshaw is against the Jaguars. It's not like it's hard to imagine Forte catching a pass and taking it to the house against the Jets. Meanwhile you always gotta worry about Bradshaw making the most of every single touch he gets because he's splitting time. Even against a poor run defense it's hard to expect all that much with so little touches. Just because it happened to turn out well this time doesn't mean it was the right decision pre-20/20 hindsight. After one or two more games of Forte doing bad, then it'll be time to reconsider.
Alright, I'll concede to the RB outscoring the other in PPR fantasy leagues.
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On September 26 2014 12:21 Aveng3r wrote: good lord cousins. This is what I get for being a dumbass and starting him over Foles this week.
You see this Shotcoder? This is what happens when you get cute and bench your studs for players that have a "favorable matchup". uh.. Eli / Donnell
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The whole point of not siting your studs is that a vast majority of the Time they will outplay the bradshaws of the world. It's like aa vs some crappy starting hands in poker. Sometimes you get lucky but playing around like that week to week is not a recipe for success
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On September 26 2014 15:21 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 15:04 AgentW wrote:On September 26 2014 14:55 Jibba wrote: We saw a lot of the same tendencies - especially the locking on - during the Eagles game too. Like Shotcoder said, he's a backup quality player, even if he gets the system better than RG3. Outplaying him in preseason games doesn't mean much.
It's not like he simply made the wrong decisions. It's that everyone knew what decisions he was going to make. This isn't directed at you, but you mentioned it so I thought I'd bring it up. Am I the only one who hears "lacks talent" when some talking head spouts "he gets the system better"? I hear, "Shit RG3 isn't as good as almost everyone in the media predicted. Double shit, we gave him a Rookie of the Year award prematurely! Quick, think of excuses." Also I hear a little bit of, "RG3 is dumb/stupid/stubborn, but if I say any of those things I might get called racist. Whats a good way to explain this away...?" Personally, I think that they both are mediocre, and the team is crippled because of shitty drafting, the RG3 trade, and bleh free agency acquisitions. Being mediocre as a QB in the NFL is no longer ~200 yards, 1 TD and 1 Int per game, instead it is wild fluctuations between 400 yards/4TDs and 100 yards/4INTs (Good/Elite QBs now have those same good days, but 250/2/1 as the bad day). Sample sizes are fairly small with these two QBs, particularly with the new "system" so the fluctuations we have seen are to be expected.
As a side note, RG3's coach and fellow players from Baylor actually describe him as something of an intellectual.
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On September 26 2014 21:24 QuanticHawk wrote: The whole point of not siting your studs is that a vast majority of the Time they will outplay the bradshaws of the world. It's like aa vs some crappy starting hands in poker. Sometimes you get lucky but playing around like that week to week is not a recipe for success
Yeah I was just being facetious.
That being said, Foles is not a stud.
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RG3 is as much a victim of bad coaching as anything else honestly.
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I think I have acquired a super power that ensures whoever I play will be injured in the first half. Just saying if I have, the Chargers (and their fans) are f'd Sunday.
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I also believe that I have these powers (sorry Niles Paul) and also own the Chargers. They're as good as toast.
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nopls, spare us. Chargers losing to Jaguars wouldn't surprise me in the least though. ;;
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On September 26 2014 21:28 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 21:24 QuanticHawk wrote: The whole point of not siting your studs is that a vast majority of the Time they will outplay the bradshaws of the world. It's like aa vs some crappy starting hands in poker. Sometimes you get lucky but playing around like that week to week is not a recipe for success Yeah I was just being facetious. That being said, Foles is not a stud. What?! I know I'm the eagles fan here but since he got the starting job (week 5 last year) he's second only to Peyton manning!! What's it take for him to be considered a stud?
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By what metric is he second only to Peyton?
Keep in mind Chip Kelly can make Mark Sanchez look good.
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On September 27 2014 03:28 Aveng3r wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 21:28 c0ldfusion wrote:On September 26 2014 21:24 QuanticHawk wrote: The whole point of not siting your studs is that a vast majority of the Time they will outplay the bradshaws of the world. It's like aa vs some crappy starting hands in poker. Sometimes you get lucky but playing around like that week to week is not a recipe for success Yeah I was just being facetious. That being said, Foles is not a stud. What?! I know I'm the eagles fan here but since he got the starting job (week 5 last year) he's second only to Peyton manning!! What's it take for him to be considered a stud?
He has to get a name drop in an Eminem song or win a Superbowl or get something better than a used car commercial sponsor ;P
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Time for my Week 4 picks. I haven't gone back and tallied up my record so far, but I know it's awful. I apparently don't have a good read on what's going on in the league. I keep doing things like presuming that the Redskins would have beaten the Giants last night. So yeah, we're off to a good start already this week.
Packers > Bears. Desperation game for the Packers. If they lose this, we can write them off. Bills > Texans. Okay, I'm going with the Bills one more time. If they lose, then we chalk up their first two performances as aberrations. Colts > Titans. Colts should have this, but the lack of pass rush is troubling. Ravens > Carolina. The Panthers really disappointed me last week. I like the Ravens at home. Lions > Jets. Lions are better than I thought. Steelers > Bucs. Really good win by the Steelers last week. The Bucs, on the other hand, are a dumpster fire. Dolphins > Raiders. Who cares. Chargers > Jags. Let's see what Bortles can do, but the Jags are still awful until further notice. Falcons > Vikings. Vikings aren't as good as I thought they were going to be. The O line hasn't been as good as it should be. The Falcons, on the other hand, are looking fairly decent. Their middling defense should be enough. Niners > Eagles. Okay, surely the Niners won't implode a third week in a row. Right? I can't even begin to describe how frustrating they've been to watch. Saints > Cowboys. Saints look like their ready to go. I feel like the Cowboys defense has overachieved so far. This is where they come crashing back down to earth. Also, this is a primetime game, so there's a good chance that we see something hilarious from Romo. Pats > Chiefs. This is a tough one. I don't like the Chiefs. But I also don't like the Pats. Tom Brady and the Pats offense have not looked great.
EDIT: One more note on the Eagles/Niners game --- given how banged up the Eagles O-line is, the Niners SHOULD be able to actually generate some pressure with the pass rush. If not, oh boy....
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On September 27 2014 02:56 Souma wrote: nopls, spare us. Chargers losing to Jaguars wouldn't surprise me in the least though. ;;
Beating the Seahawks then losing to the Jaguars is the most Chargers thing any team can do.
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On September 27 2014 03:38 c0ldfusion wrote: By what metric is he second only to Peyton?
Keep in mind Chip Kelly can make Mark Sanchez look good. Oh come on, that's crap. Foles looked good before chip arrived in town.
What metric do you want me to cite? Td to int ratio would be too easy, perhaps you want me to extrapolate his yardage totals to a full season? His win loss record?
I was talking in terms on fantasy btw when I said second to manning. Not the same as real life, but still that has to mean something..
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Ok guys please help, yahoo standard scoring. Jay Cutler or Colin Kaepernick? Knile Davis or Shonn Greene? Aaaaannd Mike Evans vs. Reggie Wayne vs. Justin Hunter vs. Allen Hurns?
Tentatively I have decided on Cutler, Greene, and Evans. Am I doing this right?
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I'd go Cutler, Greene, and Wayne. These players will now all get injured.
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