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Time to move on to the next thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/460943-2014-2015-football-thread
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 22:54:53
June 13 2014 22:52 GMT
#17741
I heard that the guy spoke in lawyer-english to Beckenbauer. Beckenbauer asked for question in german or simple english, which he declined. I think the guy knew before that someone from FIFA is going to be banned if you dont respond and spoke in lawyer english with intent.

edit: FIFA Rulebook says so that you have to respond every question.
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
June 13 2014 22:57 GMT
#17742
On June 14 2014 07:52 Dingodile wrote:
I heard that the guy spoke in lawyer-english to Beckenbauer. Beckenbauer asked for question in german or simple english, which he declined. I think the guy knew before that someone from FIFA is going to be banned if you dont respond and spoke in lawyer english with intent.

edit: FIFA Rulebook says so that you have to respond every question.


Then again, FIFA's Rulebook (and the whole organization) is fucking dumb.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 13 2014 22:57 GMT
#17743
ok guys i can count on the number of soccer matches i've watched in full with one hand, but this referee problem is really obvious, perhaps more sincerely recognized by an outside than fans who've been conditioned to accept it.

it's a very low scoring game where each goal matters a lot. penalties have very high point expectancy.

so why the fuck doesn't the biggest tournament in your sport use video replays to monitor game swinging calls?
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-14 01:09:36
June 14 2014 00:00 GMT
#17744
EDIT: Wrong thread
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
June 14 2014 00:20 GMT
#17745
Check the warning at the top of the thread.
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
June 14 2014 08:38 GMT
#17746
Aparently, acording to ESPN, FIFA and Blatter are considering U.S.A. for 2022 WC.
Rayiner
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia59 Posts
June 14 2014 09:24 GMT
#17747
Any Arsenal fans over here? I'm watching their games for about 4 years now, and it is seriously pain to see our best players playing for rivals.
It's 4:30 in the morning, it's always 4:30 in the morning.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6344 Posts
June 14 2014 10:01 GMT
#17748
On June 14 2014 07:57 oneofthem wrote:
ok guys i can count on the number of soccer matches i've watched in full with one hand, but this referee problem is really obvious, perhaps more sincerely recognized by an outside than fans who've been conditioned to accept it.

it's a very low scoring game where each goal matters a lot. penalties have very high point expectancy.

so why the fuck doesn't the biggest tournament in your sport use video replays to monitor game swinging calls?

Because video replays/challenges only work in sports were the clock can be stopped. Putting like three guys in a video room who can communicate to the referee a unanimous decision when the ref fucks something up on the pitch should be enough. And give refs the ability to take back penalties and red cards ect. No need to stop play and have the ref go look at replays
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
June 14 2014 10:08 GMT
#17749
On June 14 2014 07:57 oneofthem wrote:
ok guys i can count on the number of soccer matches i've watched in full with one hand, but this referee problem is really obvious, perhaps more sincerely recognized by an outside than fans who've been conditioned to accept it.

it's a very low scoring game where each goal matters a lot. penalties have very high point expectancy.

so why the fuck doesn't the biggest tournament in your sport use video replays to monitor game swinging calls?

My opinion would be it's largely historic the technology hasn't existed in the past and the sport has grown up without it. Now that its possible for the fans to see every decision in slow motion over and over again it becomes more obvious when a decision is wrong. Trying to make a decision first time without a replay is very hard I frequently get it wrong and then see the replay and realize the decision should be the other way. It must be so hard for the referees.

Now that we have the technology to have replays I wouldn't be so quick to jump to and assume it would improve the sport to bring them in. The EPL goal review system is amazing. There was one game where the ball was right on the line and then cleared and all the players looked at the referee he looked at his watch and shook his head and the play continued straight away with no stop in play no wait whilst people look at the replays. That is a great system. What we don't want is Football to become like American sports with continuous breaks in play. Trying to watch American sports if you've been raised on European sports is really tough. I just can't take the continuous breaks and stops and barrage of adverts. Football must never become like that.

That would be far worse than having a few wrong decisions which lets be fair are great talking points anyway. As long as there isn't some big conspiracy of decisions against one team I think most people are happy to see some bad decisions every now and then it is after all just a sport. The argument that the decisions even them self out over a domestic season has often been discussed and its probably largely true. But at the World Cup there are so few games for each team and so much national pride at stake that the decisions get amplified to a ridiculous degree.

There has been discussion of a review system like cricket and tennis where you can question 1-2 decisions in a match. That might be workable go to the replays just a couple of times in the game might not disrupt the flow to much, I don't know about that though.
Azza
Profile Joined June 2010
China650 Posts
June 14 2014 11:24 GMT
#17750
Expecting to hear "We've got Cesc Fabregas" on the wrong side. Such heartache, love the player, won't hold anything against him, just disappointed.
graan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany589 Posts
June 14 2014 11:34 GMT
#17751
On June 14 2014 07:52 Dingodile wrote:
I heard that the guy spoke in lawyer-english to Beckenbauer. Beckenbauer asked for question in german or simple english, which he declined. I think the guy knew before that someone from FIFA is going to be banned if you dont respond and spoke in lawyer english with intent.

edit: FIFA Rulebook says so that you have to respond every question.


tbh this is a realy bad excuse, you cant tell me beckenbauer cant afford a proper translator.. german media, eg. bild, is totaly behind him cause of all the things he has done for them - if you look over the edge, his contacts with katar sheiks, working with gazprom.. then his response to not explaining himself is "thought this is april fools" "didnt care".. he has a fools licence here in germany, cause he is the Kaiser. ofc everything could be true he says, he's becoming old and talking more and more nonsense on tv.. throws a bad light at him which could have been avoided.
rain~
Profile Joined November 2004
Germany461 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-14 12:06:29
June 14 2014 12:06 GMT
#17752
On June 14 2014 20:34 graan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 07:52 Dingodile wrote:
I heard that the guy spoke in lawyer-english to Beckenbauer. Beckenbauer asked for question in german or simple english, which he declined. I think the guy knew before that someone from FIFA is going to be banned if you dont respond and spoke in lawyer english with intent.

edit: FIFA Rulebook says so that you have to respond every question.


tbh this is a realy bad excuse, you cant tell me beckenbauer cant afford a proper translator.. german media, eg. bild, is totaly behind him cause of all the things he has done for them - if you look over the edge, his contacts with katar sheiks, working with gazprom.. then his response to not explaining himself is "thought this is april fools" "didnt care".. he has a fools licence here in germany, cause he is the Kaiser. ofc everything could be true he says, he's becoming old and talking more and more nonsense on tv.. throws a bad light at him which could have been avoided.


So the FIFA wants to ask him questions and HE has to bring a translator? That is total bullshit and that is not how it is done anywhere in the world. If u want something from him u have to bring the translator and not vice versa. Not defending him cause I don't know if he has something to do with that Katar WC. As long as there is no real evidence he is not guilty and FIFA is just as wrong as they always are.
Football <3 1.FCM <3 BVB <3
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-14 12:32:37
June 14 2014 12:32 GMT
#17753
Pretty sure the translator thing will be just a decoy. Another "lets make it fast before someone digs too deep" for sure.
Rayiner
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia59 Posts
June 15 2014 13:29 GMT
#17754
On June 14 2014 20:24 Azza wrote:
Expecting to hear "We've got Cesc Fabregas" on the wrong side. Such heartache, love the player, won't hold anything against him, just disappointed.


This thing makes me sick.
It's 4:30 in the morning, it's always 4:30 in the morning.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
June 15 2014 14:26 GMT
#17755
[image loading]
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
June 15 2014 16:57 GMT
#17756
On June 14 2014 07:57 oneofthem wrote:
ok guys i can count on the number of soccer matches i've watched in full with one hand, but this referee problem is really obvious, perhaps more sincerely recognized by an outside than fans who've been conditioned to accept it.

it's a very low scoring game where each goal matters a lot. penalties have very high point expectancy.

so why the fuck doesn't the biggest tournament in your sport use video replays to monitor game swinging calls?

i know, i know. exactly my thoughts. maybe cause football culture is not always about football. for most fans it is more of an identification thing. they dont care wether they win because of an unfair goal as long its a win.
at the same time most spectators are in favor of enhanced technology. FIFA just does what it wants


On June 15 2014 23:26 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
[image loading]

same goes for players ^^ . you can weigh 150 kg and still be first pick in draft.

Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
June 15 2014 17:09 GMT
#17757
On June 14 2014 18:24 Rayiner wrote:
Any Arsenal fans over here? I'm watching their games for about 4 years now, and it is seriously pain to see our best players playing for rivals.


Ya.. why can't they at least go out of England. Watching RVP score vs Spain made me cry... well not really. I just hope Arsenal can get some more reinforcements this season.
Rayiner
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia59 Posts
June 15 2014 20:53 GMT
#17758
On June 16 2014 02:09 Devise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 18:24 Rayiner wrote:
Any Arsenal fans over here? I'm watching their games for about 4 years now, and it is seriously pain to see our best players playing for rivals.


Ya.. why can't they at least go out of England. Watching RVP score vs Spain made me cry... well not really. I just hope Arsenal can get some more reinforcements this season.


I don't know why, but I'm feeling like this summer is going to be really passive once again. We have tons of prospects, but no world class excluding Ozil joined Arsenal in a long, long time. However, with this roster we can magic.
It's 4:30 in the morning, it's always 4:30 in the morning.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
June 15 2014 21:02 GMT
#17759
On June 15 2014 23:26 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
[image loading]


Haha, I love the first American football coach in that pic. Sunglasses on , no fucks given. Wenger looks class.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
June 16 2014 10:54 GMT
#17760
Reports stating that Thomas Vermaelen has agreed to a contract with Man United. Seems really dumb to let him go now. He's the only reliable backup to Mertesacker and Koscielny. I'd rather let him go on a free transfer at the end of this season than get 7 or 8 million pounds for him now (especially to a direct rival). Not like Arsenal needs the money anyway.

On June 16 2014 02:09 Devise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 18:24 Rayiner wrote:
Any Arsenal fans over here? I'm watching their games for about 4 years now, and it is seriously pain to see our best players playing for rivals.


Ya.. why can't they at least go out of England. Watching RVP score vs Spain made me cry... well not really. I just hope Arsenal can get some more reinforcements this season.


I thought it was awesome. It doesn't matter what club you play for at the World Cup : D
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