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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6240 Posts
May 10 2014 17:30 GMT
#16621
On May 11 2014 02:23 Mensol wrote:
Whole story from Ibra's mouth:

+ Show Spoiler +
Around this time with played a friendly with Sweden against Holland in Stockholm. Just a friendly, but none of us had forgotten the loss in the Euros and of course we wanted to show that we could beat Holland. The whole team was full of revenge, and it was an offensive, quite aggressive game, and already early in the game I got the ball just outside the box. Immediately four dutch players were all over me. One of them was Rafael van der Vaart, and they were all pulling me. It was a tough situation, but I pushed my way through it and got the ball to Mattias Jonson who was all clear. He scored 1-0, and afterwards van der Vaart was lying down and had pains. He was carried out on a stretcher with an injury to a ligament in his ankle, he wasn't too badly injured. But maybe he would miss a game or two, and in the newspapers he said that I had injured him deliberately. I jumped. What kind of shit was that? It wasn't even a foul, and he's talking about deliberately. And that guy was my captain!

I called him: "Listen, I'm sorry, I'm sad about your injury, and I apologize, I didn't do it on purpose, do you hear me?" And I said the same thing to the press. I said it a hundred times. But van der Vaart continued talking, and I just couldn't understand it. Why the fuck would he talk shit about his own teammate? It was insane. Or was it really?

I started thinking, because don't forget, it was August and the transfer window was open. Maybe he wanted to fight his way out of the club? Or fight ME out of the club for that matter? It wasn't the first time tricks like that were used, and the guy got media down there with him too. He was the dutch guy. He was the darling of the gossip pages, and I was the bad boy and all that, the foreigner. "Are you serious?", I said when I met him at practice. And apparently he was.
"Okay, okay", I said. "Then let me tell you one last time. It was not on purpose. Do you hear me?"
"I hear you!"
Still he wouldn't back an inch, and the atmosphere in the club became more and more intense. The whole team was divided in two. The dutch were on Rafael's side, and the foreigners on mine. Eventually Koeman called for a meeting, and by that time the whole thing was driving me insane. What the fuck? Accuse me of shit like that? I was boiling inside and up there in the lunch room on the third floor we all sat down in a circle, and I could feel it in the air immediately. It was serious. The management had decided we had to reconcile. We were key players and we had to be friends. But there weren't exactly any openings. Rafael went on harder than ever.
"Zlatan did it on purpose", he said and my eyes turned black.
What the fuck, why couldn't he just give up?
"I didn't hurt you on purpose, and you know that, and if you accuse me of that one more time I will break both your legs. And this time it will be on purpose", I said, and of course, everyone on van der Vaart's side started: "You see, you see, he's aggressive. He's crazy", and Koeman tried to calm things down:
"We don't have to go that far, we will work this out."

But to tell the truth, it didn't feel likely, and then we were called up to Louis van Gaal, the director. He and I had some fights before, and it didn't feel like the best thing to go there together with van der Vaart. It wasn't exactly like I was surrounded by friends, and van Gaal started his power talk immediately:
"I am the director here", he said.
Like, thanks for the info!
"And I'm telling you", he continued. "Bury the hatchet. When Rafael is well again, you are playing together!"
"Definitely not", I said. "As long as he's on the field, I'm not playing."
"What are you saying?", van Gaal replied. "He is my captain, you will play with him! You do it for the club."
"Your captain?" I said. "What kind of bullshit is that? Rafael goes to the media and says I injured him on purpose. What kind of captain is that? One who attacks his own teammates? I'm not playing with him, not a chance. Never. You can say whatever you want."
And then I left. It was a risky gamble. But of course, I was empowered by knowing I had things going with Juventus.


Practicing golf swing on Ibrahimovic's face? yeah... He is definitely one of the nicest footballer off the pitch... No doubt most of dutch people hate Ibra because vdV made him look like a murderer.

Most people here love Ibra what are you talking about.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
May 10 2014 17:35 GMT
#16622
On May 11 2014 02:30 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2014 02:23 Mensol wrote:
Whole story from Ibra's mouth:

+ Show Spoiler +
Around this time with played a friendly with Sweden against Holland in Stockholm. Just a friendly, but none of us had forgotten the loss in the Euros and of course we wanted to show that we could beat Holland. The whole team was full of revenge, and it was an offensive, quite aggressive game, and already early in the game I got the ball just outside the box. Immediately four dutch players were all over me. One of them was Rafael van der Vaart, and they were all pulling me. It was a tough situation, but I pushed my way through it and got the ball to Mattias Jonson who was all clear. He scored 1-0, and afterwards van der Vaart was lying down and had pains. He was carried out on a stretcher with an injury to a ligament in his ankle, he wasn't too badly injured. But maybe he would miss a game or two, and in the newspapers he said that I had injured him deliberately. I jumped. What kind of shit was that? It wasn't even a foul, and he's talking about deliberately. And that guy was my captain!

I called him: "Listen, I'm sorry, I'm sad about your injury, and I apologize, I didn't do it on purpose, do you hear me?" And I said the same thing to the press. I said it a hundred times. But van der Vaart continued talking, and I just couldn't understand it. Why the fuck would he talk shit about his own teammate? It was insane. Or was it really?

I started thinking, because don't forget, it was August and the transfer window was open. Maybe he wanted to fight his way out of the club? Or fight ME out of the club for that matter? It wasn't the first time tricks like that were used, and the guy got media down there with him too. He was the dutch guy. He was the darling of the gossip pages, and I was the bad boy and all that, the foreigner. "Are you serious?", I said when I met him at practice. And apparently he was.
"Okay, okay", I said. "Then let me tell you one last time. It was not on purpose. Do you hear me?"
"I hear you!"
Still he wouldn't back an inch, and the atmosphere in the club became more and more intense. The whole team was divided in two. The dutch were on Rafael's side, and the foreigners on mine. Eventually Koeman called for a meeting, and by that time the whole thing was driving me insane. What the fuck? Accuse me of shit like that? I was boiling inside and up there in the lunch room on the third floor we all sat down in a circle, and I could feel it in the air immediately. It was serious. The management had decided we had to reconcile. We were key players and we had to be friends. But there weren't exactly any openings. Rafael went on harder than ever.
"Zlatan did it on purpose", he said and my eyes turned black.
What the fuck, why couldn't he just give up?
"I didn't hurt you on purpose, and you know that, and if you accuse me of that one more time I will break both your legs. And this time it will be on purpose", I said, and of course, everyone on van der Vaart's side started: "You see, you see, he's aggressive. He's crazy", and Koeman tried to calm things down:
"We don't have to go that far, we will work this out."

But to tell the truth, it didn't feel likely, and then we were called up to Louis van Gaal, the director. He and I had some fights before, and it didn't feel like the best thing to go there together with van der Vaart. It wasn't exactly like I was surrounded by friends, and van Gaal started his power talk immediately:
"I am the director here", he said.
Like, thanks for the info!
"And I'm telling you", he continued. "Bury the hatchet. When Rafael is well again, you are playing together!"
"Definitely not", I said. "As long as he's on the field, I'm not playing."
"What are you saying?", van Gaal replied. "He is my captain, you will play with him! You do it for the club."
"Your captain?" I said. "What kind of bullshit is that? Rafael goes to the media and says I injured him on purpose. What kind of captain is that? One who attacks his own teammates? I'm not playing with him, not a chance. Never. You can say whatever you want."
And then I left. It was a risky gamble. But of course, I was empowered by knowing I had things going with Juventus.


Practicing golf swing on Ibrahimovic's face? yeah... He is definitely one of the nicest footballer off the pitch... No doubt most of dutch people hate Ibra because vdV made him look like a murderer.

Most people here love Ibra what are you talking about.

okay, i change my statement. People who love vdV "usually" hates Ibra.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-10 18:22:51
May 10 2014 18:17 GMT
#16623
I love them both. What he did back then was just a despicable thing, that's all.

On May 11 2014 02:29 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2014 02:12 Twisted wrote:
What does that have anything to do with him being nice or not.
No-one knows the circumstances about that except the people involved. If you want to believe what tabloids write, go ahead. I've also read that it was his wife cheating on him.


I just wanted to say that cheating, regardless of the circumstances, is not a nice thing. And it makes me sad that a footballer who does that still could be considered as one of the nice footballers around. :/


Thing is, what he did or didn't do in his private life is of ill concern to me. No-one really knows what's real about that stuff anyway so I'd rather not care about it. The way he behaves on and off the pitch when it's about football, is great. The way he conducts himself in interviews, the way he plays, the way he talks about his colleagues etc. He's always very respectful when it comes to his footballing.
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mevshero
Profile Joined December 2009
911 Posts
May 10 2014 18:26 GMT
#16624
On May 11 2014 00:29 sharkie wrote:
Btw Bayern barely edged out a 1-0 vs a team which had literally nothing to play for.
Stuttgart didnt care one bit if they lose/draw/win today, they also played away. Pepe really killed Bayern for this season.


earliest championship in the history of the bundesliga, championsleague semi-finals and still the chance for winning the double. yeah, it was a terrible season!


Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-10 18:31:05
May 10 2014 18:27 GMT
#16625
vdV played terrible since he went to the HSV, failed as a captain in pushing his mates and furthermore he is a dick since before the last game vs real when all of the bundesliga was supporting bayern he said he hopes they lose.
also i dont care if he or his wife cheated first, his fault for marrying such a .. woman

On May 11 2014 03:26 mevshero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2014 00:29 sharkie wrote:
Btw Bayern barely edged out a 1-0 vs a team which had literally nothing to play for.
Stuttgart didnt care one bit if they lose/draw/win today, they also played away. Pepe really killed Bayern for this season.


earliest championship in the history of the bundesliga, championsleague semi-finals and still the chance for winning the double. yeah, it was a terrible season!



also thanks for this , someone had to say it
This is our town, scrub
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-10 19:21:06
May 10 2014 18:55 GMT
#16626
On May 11 2014 00:29 Influ wrote:
Leverkusen played so bad in the second half of the season that I felt they deserve to lose CL but I also think Wolfsburg needs another year to be CL worthy. But as I know Bundesliga teams they will underachive badly next season and this season will be worth nothing.


The season goes from August to May. Not January to May. Besides, it's pretty sad that Wolfsburg is one of the highest spending teams in the entire league and this is the first time they've qualified for Europe since 2009.

Leverkusen should be a lot better next season. It seems like the main problem was Sami Hyypiä, because the team's form has been fantastic since he was sacked. And now they have Roger Schmidt (manager of Red Bull Salzburg) coming in to be the new manager next season. Gonna be wearing my Leverkusen shirt with pride today. B)

Poor Augsburg missed out on Europa League by a single point
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
May 10 2014 19:29 GMT
#16627
What made Leverkusen a good team in the beginning half of the season as opposed to the later half of the season? Was it injuries forcing players to miss games? Or just the team was just outright playing against better competition?
twitch.tv/dizzywee
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
May 10 2014 19:44 GMT
#16628
I think Leverkusen was overperforming a tiny bit during the first half. And iirc Sam injured shortly after and together with the news of his transfer to Schalke that seemed like a big blow.

It's going to be really interesting who they are going to pick up during the summer. Wolfsburg, after de Bruyne and Perisic became stable, seemed alot stronger.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
May 10 2014 22:03 GMT
#16629
Pretty impresive goal in the League One Play offs
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
May 11 2014 04:36 GMT
#16630
ha, i was about to link that goal too. reminds me of bergkamp's goal when i saw it lol
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-11 09:47:48
May 11 2014 09:40 GMT
#16631
On May 11 2014 01:55 Twisted wrote:
Anyway, he still has insane qualities, but they are wasted at a team as disorganized as HSV. When he joined Tottenham a couple years ago, he was easily among the best players there and they still had Modric and Bale. As for the general opinion in Germany, it's fueled by your tabloids like Bild and shit that he sucks right now and is useless, but that's just because he should be playing for a team that have qualities outside fight and physical prowess. He doesn't deserve the abuse by so-called experts in Germany.


Actually fight and physical prowess are not qualities this HSV team possesses. And the wage budget of HSV is insane compared to what the team delivers. It's not like this was a cheap as dirt team before van der Vaart arrived.

On April 05 2014 20:53 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
I've read in a few places that some of the players felt they were responsible for Leverkusen doing so badly.
If the players just over performed...that could be a real problem. I doubt Lewandowski was the missing link, Hyypiä was pretty much in charge during their joint season.

It seems like Lewandowski was the missing link, Leverkusen performed much better with him at the helm ever since Hyypiä left.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
May 11 2014 10:57 GMT
#16632
My fellow Americans, here is your TV guide for the final day of the Premier League season:

[image loading]

Personally I'm cheering for Liverpool to win the title. But I don't think it's very likely.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 11 2014 11:16 GMT
#16633
Not that anyone's "deserving" of winning the title this year but Liverpool should be made to live with their screw up.
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
May 11 2014 11:56 GMT
#16634
On May 11 2014 19:57 Ferrose wrote:
My fellow Americans, here is your TV guide for the final day of the Premier League season:

[image loading]

Personally I'm cheering for Liverpool to win the title. But I don't think it's very likely.


Wait "Syfy" is sending sports? I always thought they focus... i dont on science fiction?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 11 2014 12:03 GMT
#16635
it's a parody but i don't get some of it
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
May 11 2014 12:06 GMT
#16636
Hoping for an upset by the hammers tonight. Also not expecting much from our lineup today. Might want to conserve some legs for the 17th.
End my suffering
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
May 11 2014 13:17 GMT
#16637
Michael Owen in the studio watching the clip of Stevie G rallying the team after the City game, he actually teared a little.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 11 2014 13:51 GMT
#16638
Chelsea team is interesting
Ashley Cole gets captain and is only one out of the 3 that is in team who is out of contract at the end of season (all be it Lampard is ill). No JT either.

Interesting, hope they get 1 more year each at least. But might not
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-11 14:16:29
May 11 2014 14:05 GMT
#16639
Chelsea game delayed for balloons...AHAHAH

Also Torres in his last game for chelsea misses an open goal inside 5 minutes good job


First goal of the evening, Sunderland 0-1 Swansea. I think Sunderland partied to hard after guaranteeing staying up xD (Dyer 7min)

GOALLLL

Hull 0-1 Everton (McCarthy 9min)

Sunderland 0-2 Swansea - Marvin Emnes 13min

Spurs 1-0 Villa - Paulinhooooooo 14min

Cardiff 1-0 Chelsea - Bellamy/Own Goal (Huge deflection)
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
May 11 2014 14:19 GMT
#16640
Loool Suarez. Took a free kick super quick and actually scored, but the ref brought the play back.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
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