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MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
January 08 2014 08:13 GMT
#10201
Lol the pep video is hilarious, especially how he mixes up the languages.
You get the impression that he'd train some dumb kids who just won't understand what he wants to tell them.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 09:03:00
January 08 2014 09:02 GMT
#10202
Transfer News

Juan Mata insists he is happy to fight for his future at Stamford Bridge.

Chelsea are considering a move to bring Real Madrid star Xabi Alonso back to the Premier League.

Paris Saint-Germain are considering a move for Tottenham defender Kyle Walker after right-back Christophe Jallet was injured.

Manchester City are tying up a work permit for Nigerian wonderkid Kelechi Iheanacho.

Ander Herrera and Diego Costa are reportedly being monitored by Manchester United scouts.

Nemanja Vidic is by no means certain to stay at Manchester United, according the player's agent.

Arsene Wenger has made a move for Real Madrid starlet Alvaro Morata to provide Arsenal with emergency cover.

Manuel Pellegrini has told West Ham to forget about signing Joleon Lescott any time soon.

Juventus insist Paul Pogba and Andre Pirlo, who have both been linked with England, will sign new deals at club.

Fredy Guarin is set to stay at Inter Milan, despite interest from Chelsea.

Everton have been told to pay £1.5m if they want Dundee United teenager Andrew Robertson.

QPR boss Harry Redknapp has told Newcastle to cough up at least £15m if they want to sign Loic Remy.

Cardiff have emerged as favourites to land Manchester United misfit Wilfried Zaha on loan.

Newcastle United faced disappointment last night after Remy Cabella said that he would not leave Montpellier until the summer.

Algeria forward Ishak Belfodil has turned down a loan move from Inter Milan to West Ham.

News

Former Werder Bremen boss Thomas Schaaf has entered the race for the West Brom job.
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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
January 08 2014 10:54 GMT
#10203
On January 08 2014 17:13 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Lol the pep video is hilarious, especially how he mixes up the languages.
You get the impression that he'd train some dumb kids who just won't understand what he wants to tell them.

He's amazing :D Probably the best coach in the world. Once he wins the CL this year or the next with a second club, even Mourinho will have nothing to say xD
I remember Cesc said something like "My first year in Barcelona, I understood absolutely nothing of Guardiola's tactics". When you see the face of some Bayern players, it looks like Cesc isn't the only one x)
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
January 08 2014 11:05 GMT
#10204
On January 08 2014 19:54 WillyWanker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 17:13 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Lol the pep video is hilarious, especially how he mixes up the languages.
You get the impression that he'd train some dumb kids who just won't understand what he wants to tell them.

He's amazing :D Probably the best coach in the world. Once he wins the CL this year or the next with a second club, even Mourinho will have nothing to say xD


Not really, he won it with arguably one of the most stacked teams in football history and is poised to do it with a team that just won the treble, is just as stacked, and last season absolutely murdered as well as humiliated that team. I'm pretty sure Mou will have plenty to say
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
January 08 2014 11:09 GMT
#10205
Bad faith, bad faith, what you're gonna do? What you're gonna do when they're all pro-Mou?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 11:12:09
January 08 2014 11:11 GMT
#10206
Yeah to be quite honest the money he is on for what he is actually doing is pretty much a joke xD
I mean anyone of the people in this forum could manage Bayern right now!
At least with Mourinho at this moment in time is earning his money managing a Chelsea team that isn't that good and has us 3rd in the league some how. All of that with none of our strikers scoring an away goal in 2013 xD
Impressive!
Only probably Pep has is which of his galacticos does he leave out for this game

Would be like saying Laurent Blanc has a hard job at PSG
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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 11:14:38
January 08 2014 11:12 GMT
#10207
What was the excuse when Mou was in Madrid?
Would be like saying Laurent Blanc has a hard job at PSG

Well the team is playing a lot better than under Ancelotti... I'm not saying that Blanc is better than Ancelotti, but a coach does matter
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 11:19:38
January 08 2014 11:18 GMT
#10208
What excuse? Beat the best team in the world to a league title? Won the Cup in that league vs the best team in the world. List is endless
2 semi finals of the Champions league losing to Bayern and Dortmund both of which were fantastic teams. Dortmund by 1 goal and Bayern by penalties. Is not a bad record as everyone knows you need luck to win a Champions league no matter if you are Barcelona Bayern Munich or Liverpool

On January 08 2014 20:12 WillyWanker wrote:
What was the excuse when Mou was in Madrid?
Show nested quote +
Would be like saying Laurent Blanc has a hard job at PSG

Well the team is playing a lot better than under Ancelotti... I'm not saying that Blanc is better than Ancelotti, but a coach does matter


Really... xD
So PSG might play better but they have Cavani now...a much better defense now and even less competition in the league than last year lol as the players know eachother from the past year.
Any manager in the game could win the league with PSG right now. EVEN David Moyes
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6312 Posts
January 08 2014 11:21 GMT
#10209
Mourinho won his CL's with incredibly stacked teams as well and unlike Mourinho Guardiola doesn't leave his team in tatters after he leaves.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 08 2014 11:23 GMT
#10210
Madrid wasn't in tatters? xD
Inter was, Chelsea reached champions league final to somehow lose on penalties after he left us too. We then went on to win 1 more league trophy 3 FA cups 1 Europa League 1 Champions League and a runners up medal

And Guardiola left Barca and they have won ???
1 League title last year and thats it? And look even worst this year than they did last year at defending when they got spanked by Bayern?
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 08 2014 11:26 GMT
#10211
NEWS!!

FIFA General Secretary Jerome Valcke says "2022 World Cup in Qatar will not be held in June & July"




ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18725 Posts
January 08 2014 11:41 GMT
#10212
On January 08 2014 20:09 WillyWanker wrote:
Bad faith, bad faith, what you're gonna do? What you're gonna do when they're all pro-Mou?


No sane person would have called real madrid the best team in the world. Mourinho needs no excuse to lose titles to barcelona
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 08 2014 11:47 GMT
#10213
If winning the CL with a stacked team disproves Guardiola as the best coach (which he obviously is)... What does not winning it with stacked teams make Mou? xD Chelsea and Madrid got ridiculous teams AND signed players that amount a worth over 100M pretty much every year, and yet no CL.

Pep got like 14 out of 21 possible trophies (talking out of memory).

TBH the only year that was impressive by Mou was winning the treble with Inter. The rest of years were "meh" at best, compared to Pep.

Also massive LOL at Barça looking bad now. Won the SuperCopa against Atlético. 54 Liga weeks in a row being the leader. Owned the CL group to first place, except for one game. Won against Madrid in the Liga 2-0. Neymar, Pedro and Alexis looking super bonkers, even with Messi injured for two months and Xavi/Iniesta not looking their best. Valdés on his way to win his 6th zamora title.
Revolutionist fan
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 12:45:00
January 08 2014 11:56 GMT
#10214
On January 08 2014 20:05 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 19:54 WillyWanker wrote:
On January 08 2014 17:13 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Lol the pep video is hilarious, especially how he mixes up the languages.
You get the impression that he'd train some dumb kids who just won't understand what he wants to tell them.

He's amazing :D Probably the best coach in the world. Once he wins the CL this year or the next with a second club, even Mourinho will have nothing to say xD


Not really, he won it with arguably one of the most stacked teams in football history and is poised to do it with a team that just won the treble, is just as stacked, and last season absolutely murdered as well as humiliated that team. I'm pretty sure Mou will have plenty to say

Barcelona had won no titles in the 2 seasons (apart from one Supercopa) before Guardiola became head coach, and I doubt we would rate Busquets, Xavi or Iniesta so highly if they wouldn't have won almost everything under Guardiola.

On January 08 2014 15:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:
So apparently there's some more discussion/criticism/disgruntled individuals around Bayern signing Lewandowski and the lack of competition in Germany because of Bayern's money.

What do y'all think? Surely Bayern will all but guarantee that they win the German double for the next five years purely through money. Is the German league becoming so one-team that it's a problem? Is there anything that the DFB can do to fix it?

Dortmund do have the potential to almost match Bayern's financial strength given continued success, but for that they need to hold on to key players.

They won't lose Reus anytime soon and losing Lewandowski was to be expected and is not that important in my opinion. But losing Götze was a major blow to their chances, and losing Gündogan will be another one.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
January 08 2014 12:02 GMT
#10215
Barça's defense isn't even bad. It's mostly a strategy issue that isn't even bad, just different.

- They have two insanely attack-minded wing-defenders in Dani Alves and Jordi Alba.
- They play high up the pitch being vulnerable to counter attacks which any defender would be in that style of play.
- They contribute a lot to the positional play of Barça, meaning they can actually pass the ball.

Sure they might be kind of bad at defending set plays but they just don't give away a lot of those because they're better at keeping the ball in play. It's just a different kind of perspective on how defenders *should* play. They're better at other defending aspects that aren't really prevalent in the premier league at all. There's it's just, to be blunt, put 2 big dumb guys in the defense that can head/kick the ball away and the extent on how good they are in those 2 things is the way people measure how good they are at defending.
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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
January 08 2014 12:05 GMT
#10216
On January 08 2014 20:21 RvB wrote:
Mourinho won his CL's with incredibly stacked teams as well and unlike Mourinho Guardiola doesn't leave his team in tatters after he leaves.


I'm not out to compare the managers, I'm just saying there is plenty of room to say things about Guardiola because of having inherited an incredible squad at Bayern and having been around for the ride of a lifetime that was Xavi, Iniesta and Messi all playing insanely high level football (+ pedro, villa, puyol, abidal etc). Mou coached at Benfica and was very good with uniao de leira. His Porto team featured Deco so I'll agree that pretty much any of his big wins have come with stacked teams. BUT he has done it more in more countries. And the fact that Inter completely collapsed after he left seems less like 'leaving in tatters' just more like 'team has lost their motivational dynamo', it's not like the team was gutted of their star players. Everyone still rated that team massively highly after Mou left, in Fifa they were a top top rated team for example, but they just miserably failed to perform.

Guardiola doesn't have any sort of managerial backstory so there are still questions to be asked about whether he is a particularly complete or accomplished manager. Not saying that they won't be answered or that he is a bad manager, just saying there are still plenty of things to say.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 08 2014 12:21 GMT
#10217
Well Pep doesn't have a manager backstory because he is kinda young and actually played football until late 2006.

In his first year he promoted Barcelona B from third to second division, winning that Liga trophie and pulled 3 gems out of nowhere in Pedro, Busquets and Thiago. With him, those guys went from absolute nobodies to winning the treble, Eurocup and World Cup in just 4 years.

What he did with Barça can only be qualified as genius. For perfect football go watch Barcelona 5 - Madrid 0. Not as hype as the 2-6 at Bernabéu because of how one-sided it was, but still.
Revolutionist fan
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 08 2014 12:26 GMT
#10218
On January 08 2014 20:26 Pandemona wrote:
NEWS!!

FIFA General Secretary Jerome Valcke says "2022 World Cup in Qatar will not be held in June & July"

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/420876088961556480




Hopefully the broadcasters and other sponsors sue the shit or of FIFA for this.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 12:33:09
January 08 2014 12:32 GMT
#10219
What a shitty discussion lol. Everyone is always just throwing personal feelings and opinions about two managers who, while brilliant, have always had money and talent surrounding them. IMO Klopp's achievement with Dortmund is as exceptional as Guardiola, what Frank de Boer has managed to accomplish with ajax his amazing as well and diego simeone is doing the impossible with Atletico.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6312 Posts
January 08 2014 12:32 GMT
#10220
How does the time it's played matter for broadcasters and sponsors?
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