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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
January 08 2014 14:19 GMT
#10241
Although I think mou is one of the best coaches, I just can't come to like the football he's making his teams play.
Both inter and rm were horrible thug teams set to injure their opponents, that's a shame given the players he had.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 14:21:24
January 08 2014 14:20 GMT
#10242
On January 08 2014 22:56 Micro_Jackson wrote:
It makes a huge difference actually. Companies like Coca-Cola, Budweiser or McDonalds are directed into a summer (or neutral) location. Imagine a Coke spot on the beach for the World Cup in december.
Also it lowers the value of sponsorship in the countries that are watching. Public viewing in January? I don´t think so.

Its just messed up overall. Australia was denied mainly because it is too hot in summer and now its suddenly no problem? Also it will be an overall fu**ed up season because, depending on the date, you have to split the national leagues. So CL Ro8 in October and Ro4 in May?

But hey its 8 years until this and who knows which kind of "democracy" is in Qatar in 2022.


Wait really? Do they not know that their summer is our winter and viseversa.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 14:28:13
January 08 2014 14:21 GMT
#10243
Wasn't it to bring the world cup to the middle east and include them a little?

On January 08 2014 23:19 Steveling wrote:
Although I think mou is one of the best coaches, I just can't come to like the football he's making his teams play.
Both inter and rm were horrible thug teams set to injure their opponents, that's a shame given the players he had.


Ah Steveling. You say thug, I say badass
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 08 2014 14:22 GMT
#10244
Well thats what they lead with >.<
But like Micro said it was cuz mr Qatari guy put some money into FIFA / Blatters back pocket.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 14:24:50
January 08 2014 14:24 GMT
#10245
Blatter never voted for Qatar, it was Platini who led the campaign. Blatter wanted/voted for for the US, because the US is a real cashcow.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 08 2014 14:29 GMT
#10246
Lol well... isn't his vote worth like 5 or something? Surely if he voted North America....North America win?
He did that with the Russia vote im sure?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2395 Posts
January 08 2014 14:29 GMT
#10247
Before Blatter we had João Havelange who was thoroughly corrupt. One bad thing about FIFA is that its presidents serve for a long ass time. These guys have the time and means to develop a network of influences that keeps them in office ad eternum.

American sports' commissioners also serve for long times and I don't know if that translates to corruption often or not, at least on the surface it seems they have better governance set up.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
January 08 2014 14:35 GMT
#10248
On January 08 2014 23:29 Pandemona wrote:
Lol well... isn't his vote worth like 5 or something? Surely if he voted North America....North America win?
He did that with the Russia vote im sure?


The voters are public and show that Blatter didn't vote for Qatar. Blatter has also been the biggest criticizer of the Qatar world cup.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 08 2014 14:38 GMT
#10249
So big he isn't denying them it
It's all a front it has to be, if he disliked it so much when they knew they couldn't host a summer world cup they should of had their rights taken away. But there not, the whole world of football is adapting to suit them which is not how it works >.<
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
January 08 2014 14:40 GMT
#10250
LOL Winter World Cup LOL

- Two months of football will have to be cut out of club fixtures, which is already a problem.
- Players will come to Qatar distracted by unfinished league/cup business.
- Players will have instructions to save legs/avoid fight as they will be needed later during the season.
- Clubs opportunity to do moneymaking winter tours will be destroyed.
- La Liga will finish in July, which will make Sevilla, Malaga, Almeria and Granada home games unplayable due to the heat.
- Newborn World Cup stars will join big clubs in winter, without the chance to work through summer in new club.
- No more outdoor fanzone kibitzing and fiestas after success (except tropical countries).

I could probably find some more reasons, but I feel that I've made my point.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
January 08 2014 14:45 GMT
#10251
On January 08 2014 23:38 Pandemona wrote:
So big he isn't denying them it
It's all a front it has to be, if he disliked it so much when they knew they couldn't host a summer world cup they should of had their rights taken away. But there not, the whole world of football is adapting to suit them which is not how it works >.<


Imo it shows that Blatter's position has been weakening and Platini is set to take over. One can say what they want about Blatter, but I would much rather have a guy who wasn't easily swayed by money regardless of what people say (Brazil & South Africa aren't exactly money trees) then a guy who quite clearly profited from the Qatar vote.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 08 2014 14:48 GMT
#10252
But he should still have the power, his vote is worth more than Platini's right?
I guess we will never know due to so much problems in the organizations. Platini is a big of a douche as Blatter is imo so if they are both as big of douches as eachother and Platini is going to take over from Blatter oh god we might as well just give up on football.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 14:55:11
January 08 2014 14:53 GMT
#10253
I'm honestly not sure about that. I think he may have more power as a voter, but the network of influence as warding put is currently in favor of the Platini camp. But you are right they are both big douches and I honestly would prefer Blatter to go away as I dislike him, but I fear that the alternative may not be better and even worse.

My hope is that the English, Spanish and German FA do something as these are the only governing bodies I would reckon are more powerful than the FIFA if they combined.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 14:55:50
January 08 2014 14:55 GMT
#10254
Yeah was a rumor a couple of months back or in mid 2013 that Blatter might be stepping down or something but then he denied it. Was like a vote coming up and the only guy who stood up to run against him was found out to be super fraud guy and was kicked off lol. Then we found out EVERY member of FIFA is a corrupt man who gets paid off by people to vote for X or Y lol.
Only problem i have with UEFA not taking over is the guy in charge of it at the moment is soooooooooooooooo+ Show Spoiler +
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out of touch with the game it is untrue.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 15:06:13
January 08 2014 14:58 GMT
#10255
On January 08 2014 21:39 Pandemona wrote:
Alsoooooo
If it is being held between the dates they said....they are what going to have a 2 week break in the middle of it ? I mean footballers in the UK player on Boxing Day then the next 3 days until FA Cup 1st weekend in January. Will the world cup do the same or will it be a break in the middle of a world cup for Xmas and New Years??


National leagues can take a break for the World Cup. The NHL does it for the Winter Olympics every 4 years.

Dortmund do have the potential to almost match Bayern's financial strength given continued success, but for that they need to hold on to key players.

They won't lose Reus anytime soon and losing Lewandowski was to be expected and is not that important in my opinion. But losing Götze was a major blow to their chances, and losing Gündogan will be another one.


? Bayern is one of the most financially successful clubs in the world. There's no way Dortmund will be anywhere close to matching them any time soon. Two German titles and a CL finals run don't take you from "small club that just came back from bankruptcy" to "European financial juggernaut".

I agree that you can't blame Bayern for being so good at making money (although it is pretty shady that they consistently buy out their opponent's best players), but at the same time their financial success makes every other German club look like a joke and also prohibits other German clubs from being as financially successful. It's completely killing competition, and in a league that's supposed to be a top European league, that's a big problem. However, I don't think that the DFB can do anything about it; if they did, it would hurt German clubs in the CL. The only way to fix it is to have some kind of salary cap that was applied to all UEFA teams.

Of course, it's doubtful that this would happen (fat chance that the big money clubs would let their dominance get broken up), but that's just the big downside to the world of football.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
January 08 2014 14:59 GMT
#10256
So true, football is run by a bunch of old men that think they know what's hip or cool and proceed to do the complete opposite. It's like they don't even watch football anymore.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 15:04:44
January 08 2014 15:03 GMT
#10257
On January 08 2014 23:58 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 21:39 Pandemona wrote:
Alsoooooo
If it is being held between the dates they said....they are what going to have a 2 week break in the middle of it ? I mean footballers in the UK player on Boxing Day then the next 3 days until FA Cup 1st weekend in January. Will the world cup do the same or will it be a break in the middle of a world cup for Xmas and New Years??


National leagues can take a break for the World Cup. The NHL does it for the Winter Olympics every 4 years.


Yeah no offense but that is one league...compared to EVERY league in Europe lol xD
Plus its the effect that has, it might be that the teams play before the start of their regular season, or the play a season longer. Thus players are actually more tired. Also like wingpawn said if you start playing into summer months in some European countries your going be playing in very hot temperatures.
Also it effects everything like Europe cup competitions, champions league starts in July as it is for its early rounds to be complete before the actual tournament starts, same with Europa League. They going to start in June? Or May? Then do we have a knock out stage before the world cup or do we just have less time in between breaks from knock out games after the world cup. Do we then mess up all the scheduled cup competitions in the domestic leagues because of this making them have to play EVEN longer. Also it isn't a big deal to Europe but to South America the club world cup in Decemeber time won't happen either which again messes that scheduling up.

On January 08 2014 23:59 Ysellian wrote:
So true, football is run by a bunch of old men that think they know what's hip or cool and proceed to do the complete opposite. It's like they don't even watch football anymore.


Yeah, would be much better if the top ex professionals or managers decide to actually apply for these roles. Sir Alex Ferguson as head of FIFA? LOL would be funny that. Louis Van Gaal in charge of UEFA haha /sign me up
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6274 Posts
January 08 2014 15:04 GMT
#10258
All sport organisations are so incredibly opaque it's impossible to know whats really happening. The corruption really is disgusting.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
January 08 2014 15:07 GMT
#10259
On January 09 2014 00:03 Pandemona wrote:

Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 23:59 Ysellian wrote:
So true, football is run by a bunch of old men that think they know what's hip or cool and proceed to do the complete opposite. It's like they don't even watch football anymore.


Yeah, would be much better if the top ex professionals or managers decide to actually apply for these roles. Sir Alex Ferguson as head of FIFA? LOL would be funny that. Louis Van Gaal in charge of UEFA haha /sign me up


Haha that would be hilarious. I would especially like Van Gaal's choice xD
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 08 2014 15:11 GMT
#10260
On January 08 2014 23:40 wingpawn wrote:
LOL Winter World Cup LOL

- Two months of football will have to be cut out of club fixtures, which is already a problem.
- Players will come to Qatar distracted by unfinished league/cup business.
- Players will have instructions to save legs/avoid fight as they will be needed later during the season.
- Clubs opportunity to do moneymaking winter tours will be destroyed.
- La Liga will finish in July, which will make Sevilla, Malaga, Almeria and Granada home games unplayable due to the heat.
- Newborn World Cup stars will join big clubs in winter, without the chance to work through summer in new club.
- No more outdoor fanzone kibitzing and fiestas after success (except tropical countries).

I could probably find some more reasons, but I feel that I've made my point.


Actually this is easily the worst lol. Everyone here agrees half the fun of the World Cup is watching it outside at some terrace, with a beer, maybe at the beach.

In winter, alone at home, when I can play videogames or read a good book? I won't watch most of the games lol
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