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Well, I knew they were interested in Cesc, but I didn't know they would make an official bid. 3 reasons why it won't happen:
1. Cesc doesn't want to leave Barcelona. Even if he does, it would most likely be back to Arsenal.
2. Barcelona doesn't want to sell him, especially after losing Thiago, and not for that sum.
3. Arsenal have a buy-back clause in place for £25m, and I'm certain they will exercise it before Cesc even entertains the notion of talking to Man U.
I know he gets a lot of flak for his inconsistency at Barcelona, but if they find a role that suits him, and sticks with it, he will thrive. He's done decently in his first two seasons, but I have a feeling he'll really come into his own this season.
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So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney?
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On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote:
So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney?
I'd say about 25-30 mil
He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one
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On July 15 2013 22:50 Tazza wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote:
So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney? I'd say about 25-30 mil He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one
Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him...
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On July 15 2013 22:58 WillyWanker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 22:50 Tazza wrote:On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote:
So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney? I'd say about 25-30 mil He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him...
What i meant was, combined with his age, unless he is on the same level as falcao, who is about his age, he won't go for 40 mil. One of the main reasons illarramendi was sold for 40 was because of his young age.
tbh, i can kind of see why many teams aren't interested. he's too expensive for english clubs since man u will want more money from them. apparently has problems adjusting to foreign place(although has never been tested), some fitness problems, and just not good enough in many places that can afford him.
although i think bayern, with gomez leaving, could be very good for him
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I think he pretty much has two options; Chelsea, where he pretty much is battling with 1 striker who he is already better than. Or Stays are Man Utd and fights for his place and earns good money to possibly be let go for free in 2 years time.
He won't go abroad because of his family, and i don't see him going to Arsenal, nor Man City.
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On July 15 2013 22:58 WillyWanker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 22:50 Tazza wrote:On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote:
So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney? I'd say about -30 mil He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him...
If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that.
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On July 15 2013 23:34 UdderChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 22:58 WillyWanker wrote:On July 15 2013 22:50 Tazza wrote:On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote:
So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney? I'd say about -30 mil He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him... If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that.
RVP come to mind?
Lewandowski come to mind?
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Sky Sources: Luis Suarez open to the idea of staying in the Premier League
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On July 15 2013 23:34 UdderChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 22:58 WillyWanker wrote:On July 15 2013 22:50 Tazza wrote:On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote:
So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney? I'd say about -30 mil He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him... If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that.
Are you insane? for 60-70 pounds, POUNDS, not euros or dollars as you note, you could probably get gareth bale. andy carroll , again was what 22 when sold? torres is a complete outlier, not the example.
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On July 15 2013 23:35 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 23:34 UdderChaos wrote:On July 15 2013 22:58 WillyWanker wrote:On July 15 2013 22:50 Tazza wrote:On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote:
So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney? I'd say about -30 mil He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him... If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that. RVP come to mind? Lewandowski come to mind?
Did you and taza not read what i wrote at all? i clearly stated 3 reasons why Rooney is more expensive than those 2. He is the third highest paid footballer in the world after messi and ron, his contract alone is almost as much as the price you named him going for.
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On July 15 2013 23:49 UdderChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 23:35 Pandemona wrote:On July 15 2013 23:34 UdderChaos wrote:On July 15 2013 22:58 WillyWanker wrote:On July 15 2013 22:50 Tazza wrote:On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote:
So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney? I'd say about -30 mil He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him... If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that. RVP come to mind? Lewandowski come to mind? Did you and taza not read what i wrote at all? i clearly stated 3 reasons why Rooney is more expensive than those 2. He is the third highest paid footballer in the world after messi and ron, his contract alone is almost as much as the price you named him going for.
you've stated three wrong reasons. being british does not add 15-20 million more pounds. just because chelsea are rich, does not lead to a massive transfer increase. and rooney is not man u's best player.
again, carrol and torres are probably two of the biggest transfer busts in history. don't compare rooney to them.
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On July 15 2013 23:57 Tazza wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 23:49 UdderChaos wrote:On July 15 2013 23:35 Pandemona wrote:On July 15 2013 23:34 UdderChaos wrote:On July 15 2013 22:58 WillyWanker wrote:On July 15 2013 22:50 Tazza wrote:On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote:
So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney? I'd say about -30 mil He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him... If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that. RVP come to mind? Lewandowski come to mind? Did you and taza not read what i wrote at all? i clearly stated 3 reasons why Rooney is more expensive than those 2. He is the third highest paid footballer in the world after messi and ron, his contract alone is almost as much as the price you named him going for. you've stated three wrong reasons. being british does not add 15-20 million more pounds. just because chelsea are rich, does not lead to a massive transfer increase. and rooney is not man u's best player. again, carrol and torres are probably two of the biggest transfer busts in history. don't compare rooney to them.
Do some research, most websites price rooney between 50-60 million, and the fact they are rich rivals obviously adds to that price, do you not understand how basic competition in trade market works?
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On July 15 2013 23:49 UdderChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 23:35 Pandemona wrote:On July 15 2013 23:34 UdderChaos wrote:On July 15 2013 22:58 WillyWanker wrote:On July 15 2013 22:50 Tazza wrote:On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote:
So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney? I'd say about -30 mil He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him... If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that. RVP come to mind? Lewandowski come to mind? Did you and taza not read what i wrote at all? i clearly stated 3 reasons why Rooney is more expensive than those 2. He is the third highest paid footballer in the world after messi and ron, his contract alone is almost as much as the price you named him going for.
Of course but swings and roundabouts on that? Paying £20million to get a player off the wage books who is on £200,000 + is better than letting him go for free in a year or so time? Plus im pretty sure this is a player vs club dispute and not exactly a he doesn't mind staying, or he is happy there. It sounds like he is fed of being a bench warmer or missing out on the big games, he wants to play every week etcetc.
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On July 15 2013 23:59 UdderChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 23:57 Tazza wrote:On July 15 2013 23:49 UdderChaos wrote:On July 15 2013 23:35 Pandemona wrote:On July 15 2013 23:34 UdderChaos wrote:On July 15 2013 22:58 WillyWanker wrote:On July 15 2013 22:50 Tazza wrote:On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote:
So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney? I'd say about -30 mil He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him... If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that. RVP come to mind? Lewandowski come to mind? Did you and taza not read what i wrote at all? i clearly stated 3 reasons why Rooney is more expensive than those 2. He is the third highest paid footballer in the world after messi and ron, his contract alone is almost as much as the price you named him going for. you've stated three wrong reasons. being british does not add 15-20 million more pounds. just because chelsea are rich, does not lead to a massive transfer increase. and rooney is not man u's best player. again, carrol and torres are probably two of the biggest transfer busts in history. don't compare rooney to them. Do some research, most websites price rooney between 50-60 million, and the fact they are rich rivals obviously adds to that price, do you not understand how basic competition in trade market works?
yes, i've stated clearly being a premier league club would increase the price. what websites rate rooney at that price? im actually really curious
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On July 15 2013 23:34 UdderChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 22:58 WillyWanker wrote:On July 15 2013 22:50 Tazza wrote:On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote:
So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney? I'd say about -30 mil He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him... If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that.
Wayne Rooney is not Uniteds best player, nor is he even close to being worth the figures you are pulling out. I think United would definately consider letting him go if someone would bid 25, he is on massive wages and is simply not the star player you say he is.
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On July 15 2013 23:34 UdderChaos wrote:
For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag
What makes you believe that?
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On July 15 2013 23:57 Tazza wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 23:49 UdderChaos wrote:On July 15 2013 23:35 Pandemona wrote:On July 15 2013 23:34 UdderChaos wrote:On July 15 2013 22:58 WillyWanker wrote:On July 15 2013 22:50 Tazza wrote:On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote:
So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney? I'd say about -30 mil He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him... If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that. RVP come to mind? Lewandowski come to mind? Did you and taza not read what i wrote at all? i clearly stated 3 reasons why Rooney is more expensive than those 2. He is the third highest paid footballer in the world after messi and ron, his contract alone is almost as much as the price you named him going for. being british does not add 15-20 million more pounds.
yeah it does ^^
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On July 16 2013 00:13 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 23:57 Tazza wrote:On July 15 2013 23:49 UdderChaos wrote:On July 15 2013 23:35 Pandemona wrote:On July 15 2013 23:34 UdderChaos wrote:On July 15 2013 22:58 WillyWanker wrote:On July 15 2013 22:50 Tazza wrote:On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote:
So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney? I'd say about -30 mil He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him... If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that. RVP come to mind? Lewandowski come to mind? Did you and taza not read what i wrote at all? i clearly stated 3 reasons why Rooney is more expensive than those 2. He is the third highest paid footballer in the world after messi and ron, his contract alone is almost as much as the price you named him going for. being british does not add 15-20 million more pounds. yeah it does ^^
maybe a few pounds, but not 15-20.
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On July 16 2013 00:00 Tazza wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 23:59 UdderChaos wrote:On July 15 2013 23:57 Tazza wrote:On July 15 2013 23:49 UdderChaos wrote:On July 15 2013 23:35 Pandemona wrote:On July 15 2013 23:34 UdderChaos wrote:On July 15 2013 22:58 WillyWanker wrote:On July 15 2013 22:50 Tazza wrote:On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote:
So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney? I'd say about -30 mil He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him... If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that. RVP come to mind? Lewandowski come to mind? Did you and taza not read what i wrote at all? i clearly stated 3 reasons why Rooney is more expensive than those 2. He is the third highest paid footballer in the world after messi and ron, his contract alone is almost as much as the price you named him going for. you've stated three wrong reasons. being british does not add 15-20 million more pounds. just because chelsea are rich, does not lead to a massive transfer increase. and rooney is not man u's best player. again, carrol and torres are probably two of the biggest transfer busts in history. don't compare rooney to them. Do some research, most websites price rooney between 50-60 million, and the fact they are rich rivals obviously adds to that price, do you not understand how basic competition in trade market works? yes, i've stated clearly being a premier league club would increase the price. what websites rate rooney at that price? im actually really curious
http://www.transfermarkt.de/en/manchester-united/startseite/verein_985.html
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