On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote: So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney?
I'd say about -30 mil
He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one
Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him...
If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that.
RVP come to mind? Lewandowski come to mind?
Did you and taza not read what i wrote at all? i clearly stated 3 reasons why Rooney is more expensive than those 2. He is the third highest paid footballer in the world after messi and ron, his contract alone is almost as much as the price you named him going for.
you've stated three wrong reasons. being british does not add 15-20 million more pounds. just because chelsea are rich, does not lead to a massive transfer increase. and rooney is not man u's best player.
again, carrol and torres are probably two of the biggest transfer busts in history. don't compare rooney to them.
Do some research, most websites price rooney between 50-60 million, and the fact they are rich rivals obviously adds to that price, do you not understand how basic competition in trade market works?
yes, i've stated clearly being a premier league club would increase the price. what websites rate rooney at that price? im actually really curious
On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote: So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney?
I'd say about -30 mil
He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one
Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him...
If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that.
RVP come to mind? Lewandowski come to mind?
Did you and taza not read what i wrote at all? i clearly stated 3 reasons why Rooney is more expensive than those 2. He is the third highest paid footballer in the world after messi and ron, his contract alone is almost as much as the price you named him going for.
you've stated three wrong reasons. being british does not add 15-20 million more pounds. just because chelsea are rich, does not lead to a massive transfer increase. and rooney is not man u's best player.
again, carrol and torres are probably two of the biggest transfer busts in history. don't compare rooney to them.
Do some research, most websites price rooney between 50-60 million, and the fact they are rich rivals obviously adds to that price, do you not understand how basic competition in trade market works?
yes, i've stated clearly being a premier league club would increase the price. what websites rate rooney at that price? im actually really curious
Being British absolutely does increase the value of a player in the prem maybe not 20 mill but not chump change. You need a minimum of 8 Brits (well trained in Britain) in your 25 man squad and in the prem which is very foreign (especially at the top), quality British players are goldust. I would value him between £30-40 million and that reflects imo his true value. It would not surprise me to see him go for 40-50 or more though.
He absolutely does have the skill though, he has more quality than most strikers out there.
On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote: So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney?
I'd say about -30 mil
He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one
Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him...
If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that.
Wayne Rooney is not Uniteds best player, nor is he even close to being worth the figures you are pulling out. I think United would definately consider letting him go if someone would bid 25, he is on massive wages and is simply not the star player you say he is.
I really hope whoever makes the transfers at Man U is as mistaken as you are (I also hope that Chelsea are considering tendering a bid!) because I would love for us to get Rooney at a low price such as you think he is worth.
IMO he is tied with anyone at Man U for the position of 'best'. I actually consider that there aren't many players in United which stand to be called 'best' because it's a squad based around having 8/10 players in abundance rather than a few star players and a bunch of carries. Actually make that 8.5/10.
On July 16 2013 01:29 Zeo wrote: If he is worth that much why sell him? Or put him second fiddle to RVP?
RVP does honestly fit the way Man U are playing better. An out and out striker caps the United beast off better than a 'target trequartista' which is what Rooney is.
On July 15 2013 22:47 Mafe wrote: So what would a team have to pay to buy Rooney?
I'd say about -30 mil
He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one
Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him...
If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that.
RVP come to mind? Lewandowski come to mind?
Did you and taza not read what i wrote at all? i clearly stated 3 reasons why Rooney is more expensive than those 2. He is the third highest paid footballer in the world after messi and ron, his contract alone is almost as much as the price you named him going for.
you've stated three wrong reasons. being british does not add 15-20 million more pounds. just because chelsea are rich, does not lead to a massive transfer increase. and rooney is not man u's best player.
again, carrol and torres are probably two of the biggest transfer busts in history. don't compare rooney to them.
Do some research, most websites price rooney between 50-60 million, and the fact they are rich rivals obviously adds to that price, do you not understand how basic competition in trade market works?
yes, i've stated clearly being a premier league club would increase the price. what websites rate rooney at that price? im actually really curious
On July 16 2013 01:29 Zeo wrote: If he is worth that much why sell him? Or put him second fiddle to RVP?
The player's worth on the transfer market is not equal to his usefulness to the squad. Rooney is younger than RVP so has a better resale value. He would drive better shirt sales as well. But not worth £15 millions extra xD Where does this number come from anyway, out of the blue?
On July 16 2013 01:29 Zeo wrote: If he is worth that much why sell him? Or put him second fiddle to RVP?
The player's worth on the transfer market is not equal to his usefulness to the squad. Rooney is younger than RVP so has a better resale value. He would drive better shirt sales as well. But not worth £15 millions extra xD Where does this number come from anyway, out of the blue?
73,1239 % of all statistics and estimates on the internet are made up.
On July 16 2013 01:29 Zeo wrote: If he is worth that much why sell him? Or put him second fiddle to RVP?
The player's worth on the transfer market is not equal to his usefulness to the squad. Rooney is younger than RVP so has a better resale value. He would drive better shirt sales as well. But not worth £15 millions extra xD Where does this number come from anyway, out of the blue?
73,1239 % of all statistics and estimates on the internet are made up.
You just made that up!
News: It's rumored that Dortmund has signed Ryu Seungwoo (how do you write his name correctly? German media is reporting this way) for about 500.000 €.
Does anyone (Tazza maybe?^^) know how good he is or how much potential he has?
You know that a player is obscure when he doesn't even have a Wikipedia page.
Tons of German sources reporting Ryu Seung-Woo to Dortmund though, I guess it's true.
Looks like Gareth Bale will be on the cover of FIFA 14, with Messi of course. Edit: Oh, that's just for the UK. I guess here in NA we get Chicharito : |
And apparently Ryu to Dortmund is a done deal? Where did this come from? Read about it last night and thought it was crap.
About the player, I've seen him in the 2 games he played for Korea in the u20 World Cup before being injured. Was one of the lone stars as the team was really a team and bereft of real stars. Tbh I'm not a big fan of him. He has a decent shot as can be seen in his goal against Portugal. His decision making isn't bad either. However, from what I've seen he really lacks the physical attributes. No pace and no agility. Plus doesn't have the power and physicality of say a Kim Bo kyung. I guess he's a bit like a shorter Ji dong won. Oh well, i hope I'm wrong because Dortmund has a great scouting system and klopp is one of the best there is.
On July 15 2013 22:50 Tazza wrote: [quote] I'd say about -30 mil
He's not young enough nor talented enough to warrant 40 mil. and he's not coming off his best season either. i'd say 30 mil, particularly from a foreign club is enough. maybe 35 for an english one
Not talented enough? He's better than all the kids that have been sold ~40 mil. the last years... He's very underrated so yeah his price isn't going to be high, I don't understand why there aren't so many teams trying to get him...
If andy carrol can go for £35 and torres for £50, a club with money like Chelsea better pay at least £60-£70 mill, i am serious. For a start he's the most famous British player in the world, that already adds almost 15-20 million to his price tag, Chelsea are rich, so that adds more to his price tag for them and man city, and then finally its a direct competition, so it adds more. There is no way in hell Manchester united are going to sell there best player to the direct competition for 25 million, you must be on crack to believe that.
RVP come to mind? Lewandowski come to mind?
Did you and taza not read what i wrote at all? i clearly stated 3 reasons why Rooney is more expensive than those 2. He is the third highest paid footballer in the world after messi and ron, his contract alone is almost as much as the price you named him going for.
you've stated three wrong reasons. being british does not add 15-20 million more pounds. just because chelsea are rich, does not lead to a massive transfer increase. and rooney is not man u's best player.
again, carrol and torres are probably two of the biggest transfer busts in history. don't compare rooney to them.
Do some research, most websites price rooney between 50-60 million, and the fact they are rich rivals obviously adds to that price, do you not understand how basic competition in trade market works?
yes, i've stated clearly being a premier league club would increase the price. what websites rate rooney at that price? im actually really curious
Funny situation for Barcelona managment: few days after Thiago goes, someone bids for another CM. Ideally, they would want to let Fabregas go and keep Thiago and now it's out of question. I say now it's better for them to reject the bid. There are no midfielders of Cesc's class anywhere available for that kind of money they can expect from MU. Although I guess they could at least discuss the possiblity of some kind of Fabragas - Rooney exchange?
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