On July 07 2013 09:37 Ferrose wrote:
Really? I have not seen any Bundesliga on beIN in the States. And I don't think any providers carry GOL ._.
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On July 07 2013 09:30 Rebs wrote:
bein and GOL plays Bundesliga, but the commentary is god aweful. Which it is for really anything in English not Sky in my opinion..
On July 07 2013 07:52 Ferrose wrote:
Things like that don't just "happen." Those people obviously had more underlying mental health issues.
Though what does it say about the state of things in that particular place if the referee felt the need to be carrying a knife in the first place?
It's not just the ratings, but the exposure. Here in the USA we get every EPL game televised live. We get a handful of La Liga, Serie A, and Ligue 1 games every week on one channel, beIN Sport, which barely anyone subscribes to. The Bundesliga isn't even televised here at all.
On July 07 2013 01:05 UdderChaos wrote:
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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/south-american-football-referee-beheaded-fans-killing-player-084120459.html
This is horrific! didn't know brazil was that violent outside of gang activities :S
Is this country really ready to host the world cup if this sort of thing goes on?
South American Football - Referee beheaded by fans for killing player
There were absolutely horrific scenes at an amateur football match in Brazil when spectators lynched a referee and put his head on a stake after he had killed a player.
There were absolutely horrific scenes at an amateur football match in Brazil when spectators lynched a referee and put his head on a stake after he had killed a player.
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The barely believable incident happened in Maranhao, Brazil, last Sunday.
According to reports in Brazil, referee Otavio Jordao da Silva (20) fatally stabbed footballer Josenir dos Santos Abreu (30) during a heated moment of a match.
Santos Abreu is believed to have argued and then struck the referee after being unhappy with a decision.
It is believed the referee was carrying a knife throughout the match and fatally stabbed the player in retaliation.
Santos Abreu was rushed to hospital but died from injuries on the way.
Outraged by the incident, some spectators then apparently decided to inflict a gruesome revenge on the referee.
According to reports, the referee was tied up, beaten, stoned and quartered. They then put his head on a stake and planted it in the middle of the pitch.
One man, Luiz Moraes de Souza, 27, has been arrested over the incident. He has admitted to assaulting the referee but denied killing the man. Police are searching for two more suspects.
They are currently viewing video footage of the incident filmed by a witness with a mobile phone.
In a statement, the regional delegate of Santa Ines, Valter Costa, who is looking after the case, said: "One crime never justifies another crime. Actions likes this do not collaborate with the legality of state law."
According to reports in Brazil, referee Otavio Jordao da Silva (20) fatally stabbed footballer Josenir dos Santos Abreu (30) during a heated moment of a match.
Santos Abreu is believed to have argued and then struck the referee after being unhappy with a decision.
It is believed the referee was carrying a knife throughout the match and fatally stabbed the player in retaliation.
Santos Abreu was rushed to hospital but died from injuries on the way.
Outraged by the incident, some spectators then apparently decided to inflict a gruesome revenge on the referee.
According to reports, the referee was tied up, beaten, stoned and quartered. They then put his head on a stake and planted it in the middle of the pitch.
One man, Luiz Moraes de Souza, 27, has been arrested over the incident. He has admitted to assaulting the referee but denied killing the man. Police are searching for two more suspects.
They are currently viewing video footage of the incident filmed by a witness with a mobile phone.
In a statement, the regional delegate of Santa Ines, Valter Costa, who is looking after the case, said: "One crime never justifies another crime. Actions likes this do not collaborate with the legality of state law."
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/south-american-football-referee-beheaded-fans-killing-player-084120459.html
This is horrific! didn't know brazil was that violent outside of gang activities :S
Is this country really ready to host the world cup if this sort of thing goes on?
Things like that don't just "happen." Those people obviously had more underlying mental health issues.
Though what does it say about the state of things in that particular place if the referee felt the need to be carrying a knife in the first place?
On July 07 2013 06:17 sc4k wrote:
That's the part where you are wrong in my opinion. There are not THAT many people that follow EPL outside the UK. EPL is the most watched league in the world for sure but not by a huge margin. I don't know anyone in Germany who actively follows the PL and I had this exact same topic with an italian some time ago and he said the same for italians. I'm pretty sure that's also the case for most fans in Spain, France, Mexico, Brasil, Russia, Greece, Turkey etc.
There might be more interest towards PL from fans in Japan, Korea, USA, maybe Poland or Netherland etc.
But it is definitively not a that overwhelming amount of spectators that you can talk about that are taken these talents away from.
Competition this and that but that doesn't automatically mean that there is more fans interest. So who are we to decide which fans and what league "deserves" these awesome players more?
Makes sense I guess, but it's sad because out of all the leagues, the EPL is the one where you are most likely to find a blockbuster quality game every week. Of course I can't speak on this objectively so your opinion is as valuable as mine as is anyone else's who comes from a country with a decent league.
The Portuguese people I know couldn't give two shits about the EPL because they are interested in the portuguese league. So I know what you are on about.
That's the part where you are wrong in my opinion. There are not THAT many people that follow EPL outside the UK. EPL is the most watched league in the world for sure but not by a huge margin. I don't know anyone in Germany who actively follows the PL and I had this exact same topic with an italian some time ago and he said the same for italians. I'm pretty sure that's also the case for most fans in Spain, France, Mexico, Brasil, Russia, Greece, Turkey etc.
There might be more interest towards PL from fans in Japan, Korea, USA, maybe Poland or Netherland etc.
But it is definitively not a that overwhelming amount of spectators that you can talk about that are taken these talents away from.
Competition this and that but that doesn't automatically mean that there is more fans interest. So who are we to decide which fans and what league "deserves" these awesome players more?
Makes sense I guess, but it's sad because out of all the leagues, the EPL is the one where you are most likely to find a blockbuster quality game every week. Of course I can't speak on this objectively so your opinion is as valuable as mine as is anyone else's who comes from a country with a decent league.
The Portuguese people I know couldn't give two shits about the EPL because they are interested in the portuguese league. So I know what you are on about.
It's not just the ratings, but the exposure. Here in the USA we get every EPL game televised live. We get a handful of La Liga, Serie A, and Ligue 1 games every week on one channel, beIN Sport, which barely anyone subscribes to. The Bundesliga isn't even televised here at all.
bein and GOL plays Bundesliga, but the commentary is god aweful. Which it is for really anything in English not Sky in my opinion..
Really? I have not seen any Bundesliga on beIN in the States. And I don't think any providers carry GOL ._.
uhh I got on Optimum in Jersey, Comcast in CT.
I havent noticed it in Seattle and i dont really watch it but Im sure Ive seen some games a while back. I travel alot so I barely get to see anything the last half a year..
not on bein, on Gol (for bundesliga)