On September 24 2013 08:13 FaCE_1 wrote: I Don't know why you all complain and why you are all surprise about 1 team dominating everyone.
Ferrari did the same not too long ago. A bit ealrier (i think) Mclaren with Mika Hakkinen was completely owning everyone
The only good year I remember was when Jacque Villeneuve and Schumacher was fighting for first place ( a bit biased tough..) because even the year ealier was Damon hill owning each race.
Hakkinen is only a double world champion (I think this is when Newey was still part of Mclaren too?). Vettel is on his way to grab his 4th consecutive championship, which is going to put him on par with Schumacher soon.
It's not necessarily 1 team, it's the 1 driver. Webber has arguably been shafted many times through his career with RBR. It's very reminiscent of the Schumacher/Barrichello days minus the team orders.
But yeah, seeing the same person win championships back to back to back is boring when you're rooting for the other teams. I think next season might be different considering the musical chairs happening for seats -- Kimi's back on a well-funded team too. Plus, next year will be V6 turbo engines instead of the V8s.
Webber hasn't been shafted so much as he's just not as good at getting everything out of the car as Seb is, that's just how it is. When you look at this season RBR didn't have the best package at all untill mid-season yet Seb's been on the podium of every single race this season bar 1 race? His consistency and ability is matched only by the likes of Hamilton and Alonso at the moment you can't blame him for getting the most out of the car and RBR for having the best design team possibly of all time.
Last season Hamilton should have won the world championship, Mclaren had the fastest car and hammy is out-right the fastest driver in F1, yet Mclaren managed to fuck it all up with horrible pit-stops and strategies and pissed it all away, RBR havnt done that in 4 years.
RBR are the best team by a country mile and have to be admired, at Monza (I think it was) they double stopped there cars and did each stop in under 3seconds... Which is insane lol
whos to say RBR doesn't intentionally gimp Webbers car?
On September 24 2013 08:13 FaCE_1 wrote: I Don't know why you all complain and why you are all surprise about 1 team dominating everyone.
Ferrari did the same not too long ago. A bit ealrier (i think) Mclaren with Mika Hakkinen was completely owning everyone
The only good year I remember was when Jacque Villeneuve and Schumacher was fighting for first place ( a bit biased tough..) because even the year ealier was Damon hill owning each race.
Hakkinen is only a double world champion (I think this is when Newey was still part of Mclaren too?). Vettel is on his way to grab his 4th consecutive championship, which is going to put him on par with Schumacher soon.
It's not necessarily 1 team, it's the 1 driver. Webber has arguably been shafted many times through his career with RBR. It's very reminiscent of the Schumacher/Barrichello days minus the team orders.
But yeah, seeing the same person win championships back to back to back is boring when you're rooting for the other teams. I think next season might be different considering the musical chairs happening for seats -- Kimi's back on a well-funded team too. Plus, next year will be V6 turbo engines instead of the V8s.
Webber hasn't been shafted so much as he's just not as good at getting everything out of the car as Seb is, that's just how it is. When you look at this season RBR didn't have the best package at all untill mid-season yet Seb's been on the podium of every single race this season bar 1 race? His consistency and ability is matched only by the likes of Hamilton and Alonso at the moment you can't blame him for getting the most out of the car and RBR for having the best design team possibly of all time.
Last season Hamilton should have won the world championship, Mclaren had the fastest car and hammy is out-right the fastest driver in F1, yet Mclaren managed to fuck it all up with horrible pit-stops and strategies and pissed it all away, RBR havnt done that in 4 years.
RBR are the best team by a country mile and have to be admired, at Monza (I think it was) they double stopped there cars and did each stop in under 3seconds... Which is insane lol
whos to say RBR doesn't intentionally gimp Webbers car?
Apparently Vettel's Engine sounds different to Webbers if we ignore the traction control stuff they are probably not cutting cylinders to give a TC like effect on Webbers car.
I think f1 should really ditch the pirelli tyres now they came in to help overtaking and make it more of a show but we also have Double DRS and KERs and the tyres really punish drivers like Webber and Hamilton because they want to drive on the limit. I think if f1 goes back to bridgestones or michelin tyres with the double drs and kers we would get a much better show. The last season we had bridgestones was more exciting then any of the following ones with 4 drivers being a possible contender for the title in the last race and 5 contenders up until the last race. 2008 & 2007 also went to the wire with 2/3 drivers hopefully we get something like that next year.
On October 05 2013 09:26 1Dhalism wrote: Different tyre suppliers would mean tyres that can last the whole race. I am not sure if that's what i want either.
On September 24 2013 08:13 FaCE_1 wrote: I Don't know why you all complain and why you are all surprise about 1 team dominating everyone.
Ferrari did the same not too long ago. A bit ealrier (i think) Mclaren with Mika Hakkinen was completely owning everyone
The only good year I remember was when Jacque Villeneuve and Schumacher was fighting for first place ( a bit biased tough..) because even the year ealier was Damon hill owning each race.
Hakkinen is only a double world champion (I think this is when Newey was still part of Mclaren too?). Vettel is on his way to grab his 4th consecutive championship, which is going to put him on par with Schumacher soon.
It's not necessarily 1 team, it's the 1 driver. Webber has arguably been shafted many times through his career with RBR. It's very reminiscent of the Schumacher/Barrichello days minus the team orders.
But yeah, seeing the same person win championships back to back to back is boring when you're rooting for the other teams. I think next season might be different considering the musical chairs happening for seats -- Kimi's back on a well-funded team too. Plus, next year will be V6 turbo engines instead of the V8s.
Webber hasn't been shafted so much as he's just not as good at getting everything out of the car as Seb is, that's just how it is. When you look at this season RBR didn't have the best package at all untill mid-season yet Seb's been on the podium of every single race this season bar 1 race? His consistency and ability is matched only by the likes of Hamilton and Alonso at the moment you can't blame him for getting the most out of the car and RBR for having the best design team possibly of all time.
Last season Hamilton should have won the world championship, Mclaren had the fastest car and hammy is out-right the fastest driver in F1, yet Mclaren managed to fuck it all up with horrible pit-stops and strategies and pissed it all away, RBR havnt done that in 4 years.
RBR are the best team by a country mile and have to be admired, at Monza (I think it was) they double stopped there cars and did each stop in under 3seconds... Which is insane lol
whos to say RBR doesn't intentionally gimp Webbers car?
On October 05 2013 09:26 1Dhalism wrote: Different tyre suppliers would mean tyres that can last the whole race. I am not sure if that's what i want either.
They would still have to stop to use each tyre.
That's worse. If there is a procession I'd like to at least see drivers push it to the limit doo doo doo.
Not such a bad quali today even if vettel did get pole, Hamilton is supposed to be on the good side of the track for getting past the first corner. Hopefully he can get ahead of vettel and stay ahead.
On October 05 2013 23:10 Zaros wrote: Not such a bad quali today even if vettel did get pole, Hamilton is supposed to be on the good side of the track for getting past the first corner. Hopefully he can get ahead of vettel and stay ahead.
Coming out of turn one ahead might be a disadvantage depending on how you get there due to slip streaming on the long straight but if RB's high speed is less than mercs Hammy in 2nd is good all round... Let's just hope Roman dsnt take him out again
On October 05 2013 23:10 Zaros wrote: Not such a bad quali today even if vettel did get pole, Hamilton is supposed to be on the good side of the track for getting past the first corner. Hopefully he can get ahead of vettel and stay ahead.
Coming out of turn one ahead might be a disadvantage depending on how you get there due to slip streaming on the long straight but if RB's high speed is less than mercs Hammy in 2nd is good all round... Let's just hope Roman dsnt take him out again
On September 24 2013 08:13 FaCE_1 wrote: I Don't know why you all complain and why you are all surprise about 1 team dominating everyone.
Ferrari did the same not too long ago. A bit ealrier (i think) Mclaren with Mika Hakkinen was completely owning everyone
The only good year I remember was when Jacque Villeneuve and Schumacher was fighting for first place ( a bit biased tough..) because even the year ealier was Damon hill owning each race.
Hakkinen is only a double world champion (I think this is when Newey was still part of Mclaren too?). Vettel is on his way to grab his 4th consecutive championship, which is going to put him on par with Schumacher soon.
It's not necessarily 1 team, it's the 1 driver. Webber has arguably been shafted many times through his career with RBR. It's very reminiscent of the Schumacher/Barrichello days minus the team orders.
But yeah, seeing the same person win championships back to back to back is boring when you're rooting for the other teams. I think next season might be different considering the musical chairs happening for seats -- Kimi's back on a well-funded team too. Plus, next year will be V6 turbo engines instead of the V8s.
Webber hasn't been shafted so much as he's just not as good at getting everything out of the car as Seb is, that's just how it is. When you look at this season RBR didn't have the best package at all untill mid-season yet Seb's been on the podium of every single race this season bar 1 race? His consistency and ability is matched only by the likes of Hamilton and Alonso at the moment you can't blame him for getting the most out of the car and RBR for having the best design team possibly of all time.
Last season Hamilton should have won the world championship, Mclaren had the fastest car and hammy is out-right the fastest driver in F1, yet Mclaren managed to fuck it all up with horrible pit-stops and strategies and pissed it all away, RBR havnt done that in 4 years.
RBR are the best team by a country mile and have to be admired, at Monza (I think it was) they double stopped there cars and did each stop in under 3seconds... Which is insane lol
whos to say RBR doesn't intentionally gimp Webbers car?
And why the fuck would they do that?
we already know they have no problems running entirely different packages on the cars. we've already seen the two of them nearly killing each other both on and off the track. if you could engineer the situation where you keep your drivers apart and avoid many of the interteam disasters that have happened in f1 recently, why not. yes, i know its tinfoil hat. but this is also modern f1.
On October 05 2013 23:10 Zaros wrote: Not such a bad quali today even if vettel did get pole, Hamilton is supposed to be on the good side of the track for getting past the first corner. Hopefully he can get ahead of vettel and stay ahead.
Coming out of turn one ahead might be a disadvantage depending on how you get there due to slip streaming on the long straight but if RB's high speed is less than mercs Hammy in 2nd is good all round... Let's just hope Roman dsnt take him out again
Grosjean into the back of vettel would be nice.
this shit should be a bannable offense here, just like it is on most f1 forums.
On September 24 2013 08:13 FaCE_1 wrote: I Don't know why you all complain and why you are all surprise about 1 team dominating everyone.
Ferrari did the same not too long ago. A bit ealrier (i think) Mclaren with Mika Hakkinen was completely owning everyone
The only good year I remember was when Jacque Villeneuve and Schumacher was fighting for first place ( a bit biased tough..) because even the year ealier was Damon hill owning each race.
Hakkinen is only a double world champion (I think this is when Newey was still part of Mclaren too?). Vettel is on his way to grab his 4th consecutive championship, which is going to put him on par with Schumacher soon.
It's not necessarily 1 team, it's the 1 driver. Webber has arguably been shafted many times through his career with RBR. It's very reminiscent of the Schumacher/Barrichello days minus the team orders.
But yeah, seeing the same person win championships back to back to back is boring when you're rooting for the other teams. I think next season might be different considering the musical chairs happening for seats -- Kimi's back on a well-funded team too. Plus, next year will be V6 turbo engines instead of the V8s.
Webber hasn't been shafted so much as he's just not as good at getting everything out of the car as Seb is, that's just how it is. When you look at this season RBR didn't have the best package at all untill mid-season yet Seb's been on the podium of every single race this season bar 1 race? His consistency and ability is matched only by the likes of Hamilton and Alonso at the moment you can't blame him for getting the most out of the car and RBR for having the best design team possibly of all time.
Last season Hamilton should have won the world championship, Mclaren had the fastest car and hammy is out-right the fastest driver in F1, yet Mclaren managed to fuck it all up with horrible pit-stops and strategies and pissed it all away, RBR havnt done that in 4 years.
RBR are the best team by a country mile and have to be admired, at Monza (I think it was) they double stopped there cars and did each stop in under 3seconds... Which is insane lol
whos to say RBR doesn't intentionally gimp Webbers car?
And why the fuck would they do that?
we already know they have no problems running entirely different packages on the cars. we've already seen the two of them nearly killing each other both on and off the track. if you could engineer the situation where you keep your drivers apart and avoid many of the interteam disasters that have happened in f1 recently, why not. yes, i know its tinfoil hat. but this is also modern f1.
While I think if they're doing some illegal shit they will certainly keep it away from Webber, who does have a problem with the concept of JLIG, they have no need to engineer anything when Vettel is one of the best people off the line, and Webber is one of the worst.
On October 05 2013 23:10 Zaros wrote: Not such a bad quali today even if vettel did get pole, Hamilton is supposed to be on the good side of the track for getting past the first corner. Hopefully he can get ahead of vettel and stay ahead.
Coming out of turn one ahead might be a disadvantage depending on how you get there due to slip streaming on the long straight but if RB's high speed is less than mercs Hammy in 2nd is good all round... Let's just hope Roman dsnt take him out again
Grosjean into the back of vettel would be nice.
this shit should be a bannable offense here, just like it is on most f1 forums.
On September 24 2013 08:13 FaCE_1 wrote: I Don't know why you all complain and why you are all surprise about 1 team dominating everyone.
Ferrari did the same not too long ago. A bit ealrier (i think) Mclaren with Mika Hakkinen was completely owning everyone
The only good year I remember was when Jacque Villeneuve and Schumacher was fighting for first place ( a bit biased tough..) because even the year ealier was Damon hill owning each race.
Hakkinen is only a double world champion (I think this is when Newey was still part of Mclaren too?). Vettel is on his way to grab his 4th consecutive championship, which is going to put him on par with Schumacher soon.
It's not necessarily 1 team, it's the 1 driver. Webber has arguably been shafted many times through his career with RBR. It's very reminiscent of the Schumacher/Barrichello days minus the team orders.
But yeah, seeing the same person win championships back to back to back is boring when you're rooting for the other teams. I think next season might be different considering the musical chairs happening for seats -- Kimi's back on a well-funded team too. Plus, next year will be V6 turbo engines instead of the V8s.
Webber hasn't been shafted so much as he's just not as good at getting everything out of the car as Seb is, that's just how it is. When you look at this season RBR didn't have the best package at all untill mid-season yet Seb's been on the podium of every single race this season bar 1 race? His consistency and ability is matched only by the likes of Hamilton and Alonso at the moment you can't blame him for getting the most out of the car and RBR for having the best design team possibly of all time.
Last season Hamilton should have won the world championship, Mclaren had the fastest car and hammy is out-right the fastest driver in F1, yet Mclaren managed to fuck it all up with horrible pit-stops and strategies and pissed it all away, RBR havnt done that in 4 years.
RBR are the best team by a country mile and have to be admired, at Monza (I think it was) they double stopped there cars and did each stop in under 3seconds... Which is insane lol
whos to say RBR doesn't intentionally gimp Webbers car?
And why the fuck would they do that?
we already know they have no problems running entirely different packages on the cars. we've already seen the two of them nearly killing each other both on and off the track. if you could engineer the situation where you keep your drivers apart and avoid many of the interteam disasters that have happened in f1 recently, why not. yes, i know its tinfoil hat. but this is also modern f1.
While I think if they're doing some illegal shit they will certainly keep it away from Webber, who does have a problem with the concept of JLIG, they have no need to engineer anything when Vettel is one of the best people off the line, and Webber is one of the worst.
Why should it be a bannable offence, if Vettel doesn't get some DNFs the championship is over and for the race it would probably make it more exciting than Vettel driving off into the distance.
On October 05 2013 23:10 Zaros wrote: Not such a bad quali today even if vettel did get pole, Hamilton is supposed to be on the good side of the track for getting past the first corner. Hopefully he can get ahead of vettel and stay ahead.
Coming out of turn one ahead might be a disadvantage depending on how you get there due to slip streaming on the long straight but if RB's high speed is less than mercs Hammy in 2nd is good all round... Let's just hope Roman dsnt take him out again
Grosjean into the back of vettel would be nice.
this shit should be a bannable offense here, just like it is on most f1 forums.
On October 06 2013 02:40 a176 wrote:
On October 05 2013 14:27 baldgye wrote:
On October 05 2013 07:45 a176 wrote:
On September 24 2013 15:27 baldgye wrote:
On September 24 2013 09:46 kierpanda wrote:
On September 24 2013 08:13 FaCE_1 wrote: I Don't know why you all complain and why you are all surprise about 1 team dominating everyone.
Ferrari did the same not too long ago. A bit ealrier (i think) Mclaren with Mika Hakkinen was completely owning everyone
The only good year I remember was when Jacque Villeneuve and Schumacher was fighting for first place ( a bit biased tough..) because even the year ealier was Damon hill owning each race.
Hakkinen is only a double world champion (I think this is when Newey was still part of Mclaren too?). Vettel is on his way to grab his 4th consecutive championship, which is going to put him on par with Schumacher soon.
It's not necessarily 1 team, it's the 1 driver. Webber has arguably been shafted many times through his career with RBR. It's very reminiscent of the Schumacher/Barrichello days minus the team orders.
But yeah, seeing the same person win championships back to back to back is boring when you're rooting for the other teams. I think next season might be different considering the musical chairs happening for seats -- Kimi's back on a well-funded team too. Plus, next year will be V6 turbo engines instead of the V8s.
Webber hasn't been shafted so much as he's just not as good at getting everything out of the car as Seb is, that's just how it is. When you look at this season RBR didn't have the best package at all untill mid-season yet Seb's been on the podium of every single race this season bar 1 race? His consistency and ability is matched only by the likes of Hamilton and Alonso at the moment you can't blame him for getting the most out of the car and RBR for having the best design team possibly of all time.
Last season Hamilton should have won the world championship, Mclaren had the fastest car and hammy is out-right the fastest driver in F1, yet Mclaren managed to fuck it all up with horrible pit-stops and strategies and pissed it all away, RBR havnt done that in 4 years.
RBR are the best team by a country mile and have to be admired, at Monza (I think it was) they double stopped there cars and did each stop in under 3seconds... Which is insane lol
whos to say RBR doesn't intentionally gimp Webbers car?
And why the fuck would they do that?
we already know they have no problems running entirely different packages on the cars. we've already seen the two of them nearly killing each other both on and off the track. if you could engineer the situation where you keep your drivers apart and avoid many of the interteam disasters that have happened in f1 recently, why not. yes, i know its tinfoil hat. but this is also modern f1.
While I think if they're doing some illegal shit they will certainly keep it away from Webber, who does have a problem with the concept of JLIG, they have no need to engineer anything when Vettel is one of the best people off the line, and Webber is one of the worst.
Why should it be a bannable offence, if Vettel doesn't get some DNFs the championship is over and for the race it would probably make it more exciting than Vettel driving off into the distance.
Wishing for a crash car for your entertainment? I think NASCAR is what you're looking for.
On September 24 2013 08:13 FaCE_1 wrote: I Don't know why you all complain and why you are all surprise about 1 team dominating everyone.
Ferrari did the same not too long ago. A bit ealrier (i think) Mclaren with Mika Hakkinen was completely owning everyone
The only good year I remember was when Jacque Villeneuve and Schumacher was fighting for first place ( a bit biased tough..) because even the year ealier was Damon hill owning each race.
Hakkinen is only a double world champion (I think this is when Newey was still part of Mclaren too?). Vettel is on his way to grab his 4th consecutive championship, which is going to put him on par with Schumacher soon.
It's not necessarily 1 team, it's the 1 driver. Webber has arguably been shafted many times through his career with RBR. It's very reminiscent of the Schumacher/Barrichello days minus the team orders.
But yeah, seeing the same person win championships back to back to back is boring when you're rooting for the other teams. I think next season might be different considering the musical chairs happening for seats -- Kimi's back on a well-funded team too. Plus, next year will be V6 turbo engines instead of the V8s.
Webber hasn't been shafted so much as he's just not as good at getting everything out of the car as Seb is, that's just how it is. When you look at this season RBR didn't have the best package at all untill mid-season yet Seb's been on the podium of every single race this season bar 1 race? His consistency and ability is matched only by the likes of Hamilton and Alonso at the moment you can't blame him for getting the most out of the car and RBR for having the best design team possibly of all time.
Last season Hamilton should have won the world championship, Mclaren had the fastest car and hammy is out-right the fastest driver in F1, yet Mclaren managed to fuck it all up with horrible pit-stops and strategies and pissed it all away, RBR havnt done that in 4 years.
RBR are the best team by a country mile and have to be admired, at Monza (I think it was) they double stopped there cars and did each stop in under 3seconds... Which is insane lol
whos to say RBR doesn't intentionally gimp Webbers car?
And why the fuck would they do that?
we already know they have no problems running entirely different packages on the cars. we've already seen the two of them nearly killing each other both on and off the track. if you could engineer the situation where you keep your drivers apart and avoid many of the interteam disasters that have happened in f1 recently, why not. yes, i know its tinfoil hat. but this is also modern f1.
On October 05 2013 23:10 Zaros wrote: Not such a bad quali today even if vettel did get pole, Hamilton is supposed to be on the good side of the track for getting past the first corner. Hopefully he can get ahead of vettel and stay ahead.
Coming out of turn one ahead might be a disadvantage depending on how you get there due to slip streaming on the long straight but if RB's high speed is less than mercs Hammy in 2nd is good all round... Let's just hope Roman dsnt take him out again
Grosjean into the back of vettel would be nice.
this shit should be a bannable offense here, just like it is on most f1 forums.
On October 06 2013 02:40 a176 wrote:
On October 05 2013 14:27 baldgye wrote:
On October 05 2013 07:45 a176 wrote:
On September 24 2013 15:27 baldgye wrote:
On September 24 2013 09:46 kierpanda wrote:
On September 24 2013 08:13 FaCE_1 wrote: I Don't know why you all complain and why you are all surprise about 1 team dominating everyone.
Ferrari did the same not too long ago. A bit ealrier (i think) Mclaren with Mika Hakkinen was completely owning everyone
The only good year I remember was when Jacque Villeneuve and Schumacher was fighting for first place ( a bit biased tough..) because even the year ealier was Damon hill owning each race.
Hakkinen is only a double world champion (I think this is when Newey was still part of Mclaren too?). Vettel is on his way to grab his 4th consecutive championship, which is going to put him on par with Schumacher soon.
It's not necessarily 1 team, it's the 1 driver. Webber has arguably been shafted many times through his career with RBR. It's very reminiscent of the Schumacher/Barrichello days minus the team orders.
But yeah, seeing the same person win championships back to back to back is boring when you're rooting for the other teams. I think next season might be different considering the musical chairs happening for seats -- Kimi's back on a well-funded team too. Plus, next year will be V6 turbo engines instead of the V8s.
Webber hasn't been shafted so much as he's just not as good at getting everything out of the car as Seb is, that's just how it is. When you look at this season RBR didn't have the best package at all untill mid-season yet Seb's been on the podium of every single race this season bar 1 race? His consistency and ability is matched only by the likes of Hamilton and Alonso at the moment you can't blame him for getting the most out of the car and RBR for having the best design team possibly of all time.
Last season Hamilton should have won the world championship, Mclaren had the fastest car and hammy is out-right the fastest driver in F1, yet Mclaren managed to fuck it all up with horrible pit-stops and strategies and pissed it all away, RBR havnt done that in 4 years.
RBR are the best team by a country mile and have to be admired, at Monza (I think it was) they double stopped there cars and did each stop in under 3seconds... Which is insane lol
whos to say RBR doesn't intentionally gimp Webbers car?
And why the fuck would they do that?
we already know they have no problems running entirely different packages on the cars. we've already seen the two of them nearly killing each other both on and off the track. if you could engineer the situation where you keep your drivers apart and avoid many of the interteam disasters that have happened in f1 recently, why not. yes, i know its tinfoil hat. but this is also modern f1.
While I think if they're doing some illegal shit they will certainly keep it away from Webber, who does have a problem with the concept of JLIG, they have no need to engineer anything when Vettel is one of the best people off the line, and Webber is one of the worst.
Why should it be a bannable offence, if Vettel doesn't get some DNFs the championship is over and for the race it would probably make it more exciting than Vettel driving off into the distance.
Wishing for a crash car for your entertainment? I think NASCAR is what you're looking for.
On October 05 2013 23:10 Zaros wrote: Not such a bad quali today even if vettel did get pole, Hamilton is supposed to be on the good side of the track for getting past the first corner. Hopefully he can get ahead of vettel and stay ahead.
Coming out of turn one ahead might be a disadvantage depending on how you get there due to slip streaming on the long straight but if RB's high speed is less than mercs Hammy in 2nd is good all round... Let's just hope Roman dsnt take him out again
Grosjean into the back of vettel would be nice.
this shit should be a bannable offense here, just like it is on most f1 forums.
On October 06 2013 02:40 a176 wrote:
On October 05 2013 14:27 baldgye wrote:
On October 05 2013 07:45 a176 wrote:
On September 24 2013 15:27 baldgye wrote:
On September 24 2013 09:46 kierpanda wrote:
On September 24 2013 08:13 FaCE_1 wrote: I Don't know why you all complain and why you are all surprise about 1 team dominating everyone.
Ferrari did the same not too long ago. A bit ealrier (i think) Mclaren with Mika Hakkinen was completely owning everyone
The only good year I remember was when Jacque Villeneuve and Schumacher was fighting for first place ( a bit biased tough..) because even the year ealier was Damon hill owning each race.
Hakkinen is only a double world champion (I think this is when Newey was still part of Mclaren too?). Vettel is on his way to grab his 4th consecutive championship, which is going to put him on par with Schumacher soon.
It's not necessarily 1 team, it's the 1 driver. Webber has arguably been shafted many times through his career with RBR. It's very reminiscent of the Schumacher/Barrichello days minus the team orders.
But yeah, seeing the same person win championships back to back to back is boring when you're rooting for the other teams. I think next season might be different considering the musical chairs happening for seats -- Kimi's back on a well-funded team too. Plus, next year will be V6 turbo engines instead of the V8s.
Webber hasn't been shafted so much as he's just not as good at getting everything out of the car as Seb is, that's just how it is. When you look at this season RBR didn't have the best package at all untill mid-season yet Seb's been on the podium of every single race this season bar 1 race? His consistency and ability is matched only by the likes of Hamilton and Alonso at the moment you can't blame him for getting the most out of the car and RBR for having the best design team possibly of all time.
Last season Hamilton should have won the world championship, Mclaren had the fastest car and hammy is out-right the fastest driver in F1, yet Mclaren managed to fuck it all up with horrible pit-stops and strategies and pissed it all away, RBR havnt done that in 4 years.
RBR are the best team by a country mile and have to be admired, at Monza (I think it was) they double stopped there cars and did each stop in under 3seconds... Which is insane lol
whos to say RBR doesn't intentionally gimp Webbers car?
And why the fuck would they do that?
we already know they have no problems running entirely different packages on the cars. we've already seen the two of them nearly killing each other both on and off the track. if you could engineer the situation where you keep your drivers apart and avoid many of the interteam disasters that have happened in f1 recently, why not. yes, i know its tinfoil hat. but this is also modern f1.
While I think if they're doing some illegal shit they will certainly keep it away from Webber, who does have a problem with the concept of JLIG, they have no need to engineer anything when Vettel is one of the best people off the line, and Webber is one of the worst.
Why should it be a bannable offence, if Vettel doesn't get some DNFs the championship is over and for the race it would probably make it more exciting than Vettel driving off into the distance.
Wishing for a crash car for your entertainment? I think NASCAR is what you're looking for.
I didn't say crash it for entertainment, Vettel needs DNFs to keep the championship alive, i don't wan't anyone else to crash.
Neither is it okay to wish for Vettel to crash nor is it what you actually said. I know this shit seems safe, but dont forget that this year we already had a death in F1 in what should have been a safe environment. So if you could cut that shit out, that'd be great.
On October 05 2013 23:10 Zaros wrote: Not such a bad quali today even if vettel did get pole, Hamilton is supposed to be on the good side of the track for getting past the first corner. Hopefully he can get ahead of vettel and stay ahead.
Coming out of turn one ahead might be a disadvantage depending on how you get there due to slip streaming on the long straight but if RB's high speed is less than mercs Hammy in 2nd is good all round... Let's just hope Roman dsnt take him out again
Grosjean into the back of vettel would be nice.
this shit should be a bannable offense here, just like it is on most f1 forums.
On October 06 2013 02:40 a176 wrote:
On October 05 2013 14:27 baldgye wrote:
On October 05 2013 07:45 a176 wrote:
On September 24 2013 15:27 baldgye wrote:
On September 24 2013 09:46 kierpanda wrote: [quote] Hakkinen is only a double world champion (I think this is when Newey was still part of Mclaren too?). Vettel is on his way to grab his 4th consecutive championship, which is going to put him on par with Schumacher soon.
It's not necessarily 1 team, it's the 1 driver. Webber has arguably been shafted many times through his career with RBR. It's very reminiscent of the Schumacher/Barrichello days minus the team orders.
But yeah, seeing the same person win championships back to back to back is boring when you're rooting for the other teams. I think next season might be different considering the musical chairs happening for seats -- Kimi's back on a well-funded team too. Plus, next year will be V6 turbo engines instead of the V8s.
Webber hasn't been shafted so much as he's just not as good at getting everything out of the car as Seb is, that's just how it is. When you look at this season RBR didn't have the best package at all untill mid-season yet Seb's been on the podium of every single race this season bar 1 race? His consistency and ability is matched only by the likes of Hamilton and Alonso at the moment you can't blame him for getting the most out of the car and RBR for having the best design team possibly of all time.
Last season Hamilton should have won the world championship, Mclaren had the fastest car and hammy is out-right the fastest driver in F1, yet Mclaren managed to fuck it all up with horrible pit-stops and strategies and pissed it all away, RBR havnt done that in 4 years.
RBR are the best team by a country mile and have to be admired, at Monza (I think it was) they double stopped there cars and did each stop in under 3seconds... Which is insane lol
whos to say RBR doesn't intentionally gimp Webbers car?
And why the fuck would they do that?
we already know they have no problems running entirely different packages on the cars. we've already seen the two of them nearly killing each other both on and off the track. if you could engineer the situation where you keep your drivers apart and avoid many of the interteam disasters that have happened in f1 recently, why not. yes, i know its tinfoil hat. but this is also modern f1.
While I think if they're doing some illegal shit they will certainly keep it away from Webber, who does have a problem with the concept of JLIG, they have no need to engineer anything when Vettel is one of the best people off the line, and Webber is one of the worst.
Why should it be a bannable offence, if Vettel doesn't get some DNFs the championship is over and for the race it would probably make it more exciting than Vettel driving off into the distance.
Wishing for a crash car for your entertainment? I think NASCAR is what you're looking for.
I didn't say crash it for entertainment, Vettel needs DNFs to keep the championship alive, i don't wan't anyone else to crash.
Neither is it okay to wish for Vettel to crash nor is it what you actually said. I know this shit seems safe, but dont forget that this year we already had a death in F1 in what should have been a safe environment. So if you could cut that shit out, that'd be great.
Fine i want vettels engine to break down or w/e so he retires happy now?
On October 05 2013 23:10 Zaros wrote: Not such a bad quali today even if vettel did get pole, Hamilton is supposed to be on the good side of the track for getting past the first corner. Hopefully he can get ahead of vettel and stay ahead.
Coming out of turn one ahead might be a disadvantage depending on how you get there due to slip streaming on the long straight but if RB's high speed is less than mercs Hammy in 2nd is good all round... Let's just hope Roman dsnt take him out again
Grosjean into the back of vettel would be nice.
this shit should be a bannable offense here, just like it is on most f1 forums.
On October 06 2013 02:40 a176 wrote:
On October 05 2013 14:27 baldgye wrote:
On October 05 2013 07:45 a176 wrote:
On September 24 2013 15:27 baldgye wrote: [quote]
Webber hasn't been shafted so much as he's just not as good at getting everything out of the car as Seb is, that's just how it is. When you look at this season RBR didn't have the best package at all untill mid-season yet Seb's been on the podium of every single race this season bar 1 race? His consistency and ability is matched only by the likes of Hamilton and Alonso at the moment you can't blame him for getting the most out of the car and RBR for having the best design team possibly of all time.
Last season Hamilton should have won the world championship, Mclaren had the fastest car and hammy is out-right the fastest driver in F1, yet Mclaren managed to fuck it all up with horrible pit-stops and strategies and pissed it all away, RBR havnt done that in 4 years.
RBR are the best team by a country mile and have to be admired, at Monza (I think it was) they double stopped there cars and did each stop in under 3seconds... Which is insane lol
whos to say RBR doesn't intentionally gimp Webbers car?
And why the fuck would they do that?
we already know they have no problems running entirely different packages on the cars. we've already seen the two of them nearly killing each other both on and off the track. if you could engineer the situation where you keep your drivers apart and avoid many of the interteam disasters that have happened in f1 recently, why not. yes, i know its tinfoil hat. but this is also modern f1.
While I think if they're doing some illegal shit they will certainly keep it away from Webber, who does have a problem with the concept of JLIG, they have no need to engineer anything when Vettel is one of the best people off the line, and Webber is one of the worst.
Why should it be a bannable offence, if Vettel doesn't get some DNFs the championship is over and for the race it would probably make it more exciting than Vettel driving off into the distance.
Wishing for a crash car for your entertainment? I think NASCAR is what you're looking for.
I didn't say crash it for entertainment, Vettel needs DNFs to keep the championship alive, i don't wan't anyone else to crash.
Neither is it okay to wish for Vettel to crash nor is it what you actually said. I know this shit seems safe, but dont forget that this year we already had a death in F1 in what should have been a safe environment. So if you could cut that shit out, that'd be great.
Fine i want vettels engine to break down or w/e so he retires happy now?
Thanks. That won't be enough though. Noone is in any position to seriously challenge Vettel for the title, and i think it's a better storyline to see his legend grow rather than someone worse win due to luck.
On October 05 2013 23:10 Zaros wrote: Not such a bad quali today even if vettel did get pole, Hamilton is supposed to be on the good side of the track for getting past the first corner. Hopefully he can get ahead of vettel and stay ahead.
Coming out of turn one ahead might be a disadvantage depending on how you get there due to slip streaming on the long straight but if RB's high speed is less than mercs Hammy in 2nd is good all round... Let's just hope Roman dsnt take him out again
Grosjean into the back of vettel would be nice.
this shit should be a bannable offense here, just like it is on most f1 forums.
On October 06 2013 02:40 a176 wrote:
On October 05 2013 14:27 baldgye wrote:
On October 05 2013 07:45 a176 wrote: [quote]
whos to say RBR doesn't intentionally gimp Webbers car?
And why the fuck would they do that?
we already know they have no problems running entirely different packages on the cars. we've already seen the two of them nearly killing each other both on and off the track. if you could engineer the situation where you keep your drivers apart and avoid many of the interteam disasters that have happened in f1 recently, why not. yes, i know its tinfoil hat. but this is also modern f1.
While I think if they're doing some illegal shit they will certainly keep it away from Webber, who does have a problem with the concept of JLIG, they have no need to engineer anything when Vettel is one of the best people off the line, and Webber is one of the worst.
Why should it be a bannable offence, if Vettel doesn't get some DNFs the championship is over and for the race it would probably make it more exciting than Vettel driving off into the distance.
Wishing for a crash car for your entertainment? I think NASCAR is what you're looking for.
I didn't say crash it for entertainment, Vettel needs DNFs to keep the championship alive, i don't wan't anyone else to crash.
Neither is it okay to wish for Vettel to crash nor is it what you actually said. I know this shit seems safe, but dont forget that this year we already had a death in F1 in what should have been a safe environment. So if you could cut that shit out, that'd be great.
Fine i want vettels engine to break down or w/e so he retires happy now?
Thanks. That won't be enough though. Noone is in any position to seriously challenge Vettel for the title, and i think it's a better storyline to see his legend grow rather than someone worse win due to luck.
Hamilton and Alonso aren't worse drivers than Vettel. Im not a fan of Vettel so i'd rather he didn't win again even if it looks inevitable.
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