Formula 1 - 2013 - Page 54

On September 23 2013 00:09 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
most boring season in years. and this race was a good representation of it.

On September 23 2013 04:49 baldgye wrote:


No, it's not... 2011 was the most boring of recent years...

On September 23 2013 08:07 Firestorm wrote:


We'll compromise and say both seasons were equally as boring, happy?

On September 24 2013 08:13 FaCE_1 wrote:
I Don't know why you all complain and why you are all surprise about 1 team dominating everyone.

Ferrari did the same not too long ago.
A bit ealrier (i think) Mclaren with Mika Hakkinen was completely owning everyone

The only good year I remember was when Jacque Villeneuve and Schumacher was fighting for first place ( a bit biased tough..) because even the year ealier was Damon hill owning each race.

On September 24 2013 09:46 kierpanda wrote:

Hakkinen is only a double world champion (I think this is when Newey was still part of Mclaren too?).
Vettel is on his way to grab his 4th consecutive championship, which is going to put him on par with Schumacher soon.

It's not necessarily 1 team, it's the 1 driver.
Webber has arguably been shafted many times through his career with RBR. It's very reminiscent of the Schumacher/Barrichello days minus the team orders.

But yeah, seeing the same person win championships back to back to back is boring when you're rooting for the other teams. I think next season might be different considering the musical chairs happening for seats -- Kimi's back on a well-funded team too. Plus, next year will be V6 turbo engines instead of the V8s.

On September 24 2013 15:27 baldgye wrote:



Webber hasn't been shafted so much as he's just not as good at getting everything out of the car as Seb is, that's just how it is. When you look at this season RBR didn't have the best package at all untill mid-season yet Seb's been on the podium of every single race this season bar 1 race? His consistency and ability is matched only by the likes of Hamilton and Alonso at the moment you can't blame him for getting the most out of the car and RBR for having the best design team possibly of all time.

Last season Hamilton should have won the world championship, Mclaren had the fastest car and hammy is out-right the fastest driver in F1, yet Mclaren managed to fuck it all up with horrible pit-stops and strategies and pissed it all away, RBR havnt done that in 4 years.

RBR are the best team by a country mile and have to be admired, at Monza (I think it was) they double stopped there cars and did each stop in under 3seconds... Which is insane lol

On September 25 2013 01:45 kierpanda wrote:


Webber is hilariously bad at starts, but he definitely knows how to drive. I'm saying that Webber has been shafted based off of his own commentary to the press. Horner has come under fire before under allegations that Vettel is definitely the favorite and therefore gets away with more stuff/gets more benefits than Webber.

Webber has had more DNFs due to technical failures than Vettel. Additionally, the whole "Multi 21" incident this year where Horner specifically implied that Vettel should not pass Mark, yet Vettel went ahead and did it anyway. There's been several cases where Rocky, Vettel's race engineer, specifically told him not to push the car so hard to avoid tire degradation/damaging the gearbox/etc.

With that being said, Vettel is a superb driver, however, he definitely does not drive with the team's best interests at heart.


I don't think it's the pit stops that caused Hamilton the season. Yeah, they were shitty, but Mclaren also didn't have a dedicated team to preform pit stops. Hamilton was plagued with DNFs too.

On September 25 2013 02:45 baldgye wrote:
Webber isn't anything close to as good as Vettel, also him being there is due to him being the favorite of the joint owner (ceo guy I don't remember his title) due to the fact that Webber has been there for a long time, it's the reason Kimi didn't get the RB drive (so rumor suggest) because the head of Red Bull rewards and likes loyalty, hence there best Torro Rosso driver getting the seat.

And as for the Multi-21 nonsense, Webber has ignored team orders on multiple occasions, in Brazil almost doing so at the cost of Vettel's DWC, as far as that goes while it's still wrong to so publicly go against team orders he had every 'right' to do what he did.

"however, he definitely does not drive with the team's best interests at heart." What does that mean? He's won the last 3 DWC... what else can he do?

I'm not even a Vettel fan, I'm a Hamilton fan... but it's getting so boring and idiotic calling out Vettel as some kind of bad driver who only cares about fucking Mark over and ruining F1. He's one of (IMO) the top 4 drivers in the world (Alonso, Hamilton and Kimi) and he has not only the fastest car, but also the best team in F1 and that F1 has seen since Schumacher was at Ferrari. You can't blame him for being amazing consistent and out-right fast. On top of that out of all the drivers in F1 and especially out of those top 4, he seems the most down to earth, friendly and amicable person I've seen, how he deals with the boo'ing he gets (which is absurd) shows how much of a professional he is.

If I could have one wish it would be that Alonso, Kimi, Hamilton and Vettel all had the same team and same car performance so we could really REALLY see who the best driver is and try and get back the magic that was the 2010 season, but that's just not how the world works.

But yeah last year Lewis (and Jensen) was fucked by Mclarens total incompetence and I don't know why Martin Whitmarsh has a job.

On October 01 2013 00:26 zere wrote:


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