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On May 14 2013 11:21 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 11:19 Slardar wrote: Sighhhhhhhh.......holy moly that was the worst way to go out. I'm not even a die-hard fan and I'm pissed. but it was predictable. That's the scary shit. As soon as the Leafs scored their 4th goal I turned to my father and said "damn, blowing a 2 goal lead would've been way less devastating"
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At least they made the playoffs this year, and Boston almost blew their own lead.... It was a good experience gain for our young team, against a team where all of the good payers had already won a stanley cup, they'll be back next year!
Also, as long as Montreal lost i'm happy
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On May 14 2013 11:23 Durp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 11:21 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 11:19 Slardar wrote: Sighhhhhhhh.......holy moly that was the worst way to go out. I'm not even a die-hard fan and I'm pissed. but it was predictable. That's the scary shit. As soon as the Leafs scored their 4th goal I turned to my father and said "damn, blowing a 2 goal lead would've been way less devastating"
well it's not like we haven't done it before. In fact, the Bruins have clawed back many times on us regardless of the group. I wanted to see our group get the fifth badly. I told everyone in the room it's not over yet even as we were up 4-1. Said it, during the other game when we won 4-2. Even when you think you have them you don't. You can never let up and we certainly do give up way too much even when we have all the momentum and they have nothing left. They just keep coming.
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On May 14 2013 11:24 isaachukfan wrote:At least they made the playoffs this year, and Boston almost blew their own lead.... It was a good experience gain for our young team, against a team where all of the good payers had already won a stanley cup, they'll be back next year! Also, as long as Montreal lost i'm happy 
As I've said many times before, if you don't make the playoffs you really need to re-evaluate what you're doing because if you don't that means your group really sucks. Playoffs should be easy to make but actually winning it? Still one of the hardest prizes to win in all of professional sports.
Making the playoffs in let's say the NFL or MLB? That's much much harder and you really do need a top notch team to do that. I'd put the NBA eastern conference in similar territory as the NHL eastern conference when it comes to actually making it in and it's been that way for so long.
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Someone cheer me up.. I'm devastated right now as a Leafs fan :<..
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it was a fun run for the leafs...
Reimer's abilities won't be incorrectly evaluated by management the way Potvin's were (he was a flopper). they'll have to face the fact that Reimer has a weak glove hand and gives up too many big juicy rebounds.
Boston is done like dinner in the next round. And , again this will be good for hte Leafs to receive a proper evaluation by upper management.
Now we get to find out who was playing hurt
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On May 14 2013 11:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote:it was a fun run for the leafs... Reimer's abilities won't be incorrectly evaluated by management the way Potvin's were (he was a flopper). they'll have to face the fact that Reimer has a weak glove hand and gives up too many big juicy rebounds. Boston is done like dinner in the next round. And , again this will be good for hte Leafs to receive a proper evaluation by upper management. Now we get to find out who was playing hurt 
They would have got proper evaluation regardless & I'm still thinking back to Don's rant about "Guess what folks, that's where they all go because you won't beat them down low rant" lol. Which, is legitimate but when you watch him on those 1 on 1 situations i.e. shootouts. Yes, they certainly do try to take advantage of it. As for those rebounds, eventually it will bite you in the ass but I thought our d did to a decent job of getting to them or tying up the Boston sticks in order for them to try and relieve the pressure but it's how they got it out that bothered me. We would get to the puck first on many occasions but our clearing attempts are more often than not cringeworthy. We need to have better sticks when it comes to transitioning up the ice.
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hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahaahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahaahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahaahahhahahahhahahaahahahahahahahahhahhahaahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah that was the most glorious thing to watch. also the stats told me it was going to happen
as hilarious that that was, toronto is probably a bit more than a first round team if they add a top 4 defender and the younger defenders take another step forward. i have no idea who their ufas are
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Nobody won the series. The bruins went 7 games vs. leafs. Leafs blow 4 - 1 with 10 minutes left. GG GO SENS
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On May 14 2013 11:46 QuanticHawk wrote: hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahaahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahaahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahaahahhahahahhahahaahahahahahahahahhahhahaahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah that was the most glorious thing to watch.
Rangers won't win the Cup with Nash but congrats on making it to R2.
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damn, i hate the leafs but thats just an awful way to go out. I don't see boston going to r3~
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On May 14 2013 11:46 StarStruck wrote: They would have got proper evaluation regardless
teams constantly over estimate how good their own players are. Which is why management tries to keep a distance from their staff.
Scotty Bowman was a master of this difficult art. Look at how Pat Gillick constantly traded away his best players during the peak of their careers... that's how its done.
I can go through playoff after playoff run where the "heroes of a magical run to the semis" are relied upon for far too long and far too deep into their careers as their aging bodies slowly decline... .
1967, 1993, 1994, 1999, 2002. pick a year... any year.
the only year where the team got the proper evaluation was 1978.... when they got annihilated by the Canadiens in the semi finals... although that team was dismantled partially because Ballard was feuding with Eagleson. They got rid of Sittler, Williams, etc and replaced them with nothing... but had they kept that group together they would've done nothing.
its good the Leafs exited in the 1st round ... because these guys are no where near the level of LA, Chicago, or the NY Rangers.
The Leafs are somewhere between the 10th and 20th best team in the NHL and tonight's result is commensurate with their talent level.
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results and updating my own picks. i really think any that any could go either way
1 PIT vs 7 OT - OTT in 7 - Every time I see ottawa play I am impressed with them. With Karlsson back theyre dangerous. 4 BOS vs 6 NYR - NYR in 7 - The Rangers have a lot of players not named Nash playing hot. I think when he comes around they are a tough team to beat
1 CHI vs 7 DET - CHI in 6 - I think Chicago is definitely better, but Detroit has enough talent to cause trouble 5 LAK vs 6 SJS - LAK in 6 - I think LA is just plain better, and I think quick shows up big.
NYI (8) > PIT (1) in 7 MTL (2) > OTT (6) in 6 NYR (6) > WAS (3) in 6 BOS (4) > TOR (5) in 5
CHI (1) > MIN (8) in 5 [ANA (2) > DET (7) in 6 VAN (3) > SJS (6) in 6 LAK (5) > STL (4) in 7
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On May 14 2013 12:15 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 11:46 StarStruck wrote: They would have got proper evaluation regardless teams constantly over estimate how good their own players are. Which is why management tries to keep a distance from their staff. Scotty Bowman was a master of this difficult art. Look at how Pat Gillick constantly traded away his best players during the peak of their careers... that's how its done. I can go through playoff after playoff run where the "heroes of a magical run to the semis" are relied upon for far too long and far too deep into their careers as their aging bodies slowly decline... . 1967, 1993, 1994, 1999, 2002. pick a year... any year. the only year where the team got the proper evaluation was 1978.... when they got annihilated by the Canadiens in the semi finals... although that team was dismantled partially because Ballard was feuding with Eagleson. They got rid of Sittler, Williams, etc and replaced them with nothing... but had they kept that group together they would've done nothing. its good the Leafs exited in the 1st round ... because these guys are no where near the level of LA, Chicago, or the NY Rangers. The Leafs are somewhere between the 10th and 20th best team in the NHL and tonight's result is commensurate with their talent level.
I'm talking about regardless of the Leafs moving on because I assume that's what you were talking about and there are a lot of things you cannot control when it comes to the trade market and moving players so even if you have a need or want to get rid of a player you believe peaked. Good luck trying to get the return you want for them. Diminishing returns suck. I'll agree with you on Scotty Bowman though and I think it's a real shame the Leafs management never got him. They really should have offered him complete control like they did with Burke and perhaps we would have made a few more runs.
On May 14 2013 12:19 QuanticHawk wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ODoaGhG.jpg)
Thanks chief.
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On May 14 2013 12:19 QuanticHawk wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ODoaGhG.jpg) LOL T________________T
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lol. I was listening to the game on the radio on the drive home and was ready to congratulate the leafs. Then I get home and they're out of the playoffs. 1967.
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On May 14 2013 12:45 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 11:29 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 11:24 isaachukfan wrote:At least they made the playoffs this year, and Boston almost blew their own lead.... It was a good experience gain for our young team, against a team where all of the good payers had already won a stanley cup, they'll be back next year! Also, as long as Montreal lost i'm happy  As I've said many times before, if you don't make the playoffs you really need to re-evaluate what you're doing because if you don't that means your group really sucks. Playoffs should be easy to make but actually winning it? Still one of the hardest prizes to win in all of professional sports. Making the playoffs in let's say the NFL or MLB? That's much much harder and you really do need a top notch team to do that. I'd put the NBA eastern conference in similar territory as the NHL eastern conference when it comes to actually making it in and it's been that way for so long. This post makes no sense. Half of the teams in the NHL suck?
In relation to the rest of the league? Yes.
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On May 14 2013 12:45 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 11:29 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 11:24 isaachukfan wrote:At least they made the playoffs this year, and Boston almost blew their own lead.... It was a good experience gain for our young team, against a team where all of the good payers had already won a stanley cup, they'll be back next year! Also, as long as Montreal lost i'm happy  As I've said many times before, if you don't make the playoffs you really need to re-evaluate what you're doing because if you don't that means your group really sucks. Playoffs should be easy to make but actually winning it? Still one of the hardest prizes to win in all of professional sports. Making the playoffs in let's say the NFL or MLB? That's much much harder and you really do need a top notch team to do that. I'd put the NBA eastern conference in similar territory as the NHL eastern conference when it comes to actually making it in and it's been that way for so long. This post makes no sense. Half of the teams in the NHL suck?
You heard me and I've said it several times in this thread before. If your team cannot make the playoffs then your team really, really sucks. It's one thing to make it in. It's another thing to win it. Stand by what I said about the NBA, NFL and MLB too.
On May 14 2013 12:48 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 12:45 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 14 2013 11:29 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 11:24 isaachukfan wrote:At least they made the playoffs this year, and Boston almost blew their own lead.... It was a good experience gain for our young team, against a team where all of the good payers had already won a stanley cup, they'll be back next year! Also, as long as Montreal lost i'm happy  As I've said many times before, if you don't make the playoffs you really need to re-evaluate what you're doing because if you don't that means your group really sucks. Playoffs should be easy to make but actually winning it? Still one of the hardest prizes to win in all of professional sports. Making the playoffs in let's say the NFL or MLB? That's much much harder and you really do need a top notch team to do that. I'd put the NBA eastern conference in similar territory as the NHL eastern conference when it comes to actually making it in and it's been that way for so long. This post makes no sense. Half of the teams in the NHL suck? In relation to the rest of the league? Yes.
Yes sir.
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