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My deepest condolences Leafs fans. That must suck so hard 
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We're used to it man. All good just another spoke in the wheel.
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On May 14 2013 13:11 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 12:48 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 12:45 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 14 2013 11:29 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 11:24 isaachukfan wrote:At least they made the playoffs this year, and Boston almost blew their own lead.... It was a good experience gain for our young team, against a team where all of the good payers had already won a stanley cup, they'll be back next year! Also, as long as Montreal lost i'm happy  As I've said many times before, if you don't make the playoffs you really need to re-evaluate what you're doing because if you don't that means your group really sucks. Playoffs should be easy to make but actually winning it? Still one of the hardest prizes to win in all of professional sports. Making the playoffs in let's say the NFL or MLB? That's much much harder and you really do need a top notch team to do that. I'd put the NBA eastern conference in similar territory as the NHL eastern conference when it comes to actually making it in and it's been that way for so long. This post makes no sense. Half of the teams in the NHL suck? You heard me and I've said it several times in this thread before. If your team cannot make the playoffs then your team really, really sucks. It's one thing to make it in. It's another thing to win it. Stand by what I said about the NBA, NFL and MLB too. On May 14 2013 12:48 Slaughter wrote:On May 14 2013 12:45 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 14 2013 11:29 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 11:24 isaachukfan wrote:At least they made the playoffs this year, and Boston almost blew their own lead.... It was a good experience gain for our young team, against a team where all of the good payers had already won a stanley cup, they'll be back next year! Also, as long as Montreal lost i'm happy As I've said many times before, if you don't make the playoffs you really need to re-evaluate what you're doing because if you don't that means your group really sucks. Playoffs should be easy to make but actually winning it? Still one of the hardest prizes to win in all of professional sports. Making the playoffs in let's say the NFL or MLB? That's much much harder and you really do need a top notch team to do that. I'd put the NBA eastern conference in similar territory as the NHL eastern conference when it comes to actually making it in and it's been that way for so long. This post makes no sense. Half of the teams in the NHL suck? In relation to the rest of the league? Yes. Yes sir. Sorry but I think that is idiotic. Saying that a team really sucks because they got a few points less then the 16 teams (especially in such a short season) makes no sense. I would say only the teams far below 500 really suck. Some are bad, underachieving or good but not good enough. Winnipeg had a good solid team this year, so did Columbus (they had the best goalie in the league) and both didn't make the playoffs despite being over 500. Do they suck? I will concede that teams like Florida and Carolina suck though.
We're not just talking about shortened-seasons man. Those points are easy pickings. Just because you have a few pieces to the puzzle doesn't mean you're going to be able to solve the whole thing. It doesn't work that way! Winnipeg and Columbus fit that bill. To make the playoffs in the NHL is a lot easier compared to other professional sports. At the end of the season you should be one of those sixteen teams that gets in.
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On May 14 2013 12:45 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 11:29 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 11:24 isaachukfan wrote:At least they made the playoffs this year, and Boston almost blew their own lead.... It was a good experience gain for our young team, against a team where all of the good payers had already won a stanley cup, they'll be back next year! Also, as long as Montreal lost i'm happy As I've said many times before, if you don't make the playoffs you really need to re-evaluate what you're doing because if you don't that means your group really sucks. Playoffs should be easy to make but actually winning it? Still one of the hardest prizes to win in all of professional sports. Making the playoffs in let's say the NFL or MLB? That's much much harder and you really do need a top notch team to do that. I'd put the NBA eastern conference in similar territory as the NHL eastern conference when it comes to actually making it in and it's been that way for so long. This post makes no sense. Half of the teams in the NHL suck?
uhhh did u watch what the LA Kings did last year to the NHL's "good teams".
it was ugly.
relative to the LA Kings of 2012.
the teams placing from 17th to 30th sucked big hairy sweaty donkey balls and wouldn't have a prayer of winning a BO7 against them.
i can go through some more years if you want.. but i think people have had enough of my Toronto Maple Leaf history lessons in this thread.
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has anyone seen this yet? http://www.faceoff.com/sports/hockey/montreal-canadiens/Jack Todd Goalie comments should alarms/8374045/story.html
i really dont think price has wat it takes to play in montreal anymore, imo we should try to sign smith/backstrom this offseason and trade price for an impact player. fuckin gionta/kaberle/moen need to gtfo too, along with our ufas (halpern, ryder, armstrong, not sure if armstrong is a ufa or not). luckily this years crop of ufas seems very promising, if we manage to sign a couple of big forwards (horton, clarckson, torres, bickell, boyes) we could probably compete with pit/boston next year.
i would round out the roster with a couple of young players like sebastian collberg and dumont. our d is pretty solid when emelin is playing and both beaulieu and tinordi are nhl ready, tbh i think beaulieu is going to be a stud. markov is kinda iffy tho t.t, especially for wat hes making
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On May 14 2013 13:27 ROOTT1 wrote:has anyone seen this yet? http://www.faceoff.com/sports/hockey/montreal-canadiens/Jack Todd Goalie comments should alarms/8374045/story.htmli really dont think price has wat it takes to play in montreal anymore, imo we should try to sign smith/backstrom this offseason and trade price for an impact player. fuckin gionta/kaberle/moen need to gtfo too, along with our ufas (halpern, ryder, armstrong, not sure if armstrong is a ufa or not). luckily this years crop of ufas seems very promising, if we manage to sign a couple of big forwards (horton, clarckson, torres, bickell, boyes) we could probably compete with pit/boston next year. i would round out the roster with a couple of young players like sebastian collberg and dumont. our d is pretty solid when emelin is playing and both beaulieu and tinordi are nhl ready, tbh i think beaulieu is going to be a stud. markov is kinda iffy tho t.t, especially for wat hes making
It's hard for any goalie in a hockey hotbed and there are a lot of guys on the Bruins that are starting to show some wear and tear. I don't know how much of a threat they'll be in the years to come. Markov has always been a problem with all those injuries, but look at Montreal's record with him in the line-up. I'd still consider him an impact player. 5.75mil :/
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On May 14 2013 13:31 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 13:19 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 13:11 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 14 2013 12:48 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 12:45 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 14 2013 11:29 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 11:24 isaachukfan wrote:At least they made the playoffs this year, and Boston almost blew their own lead.... It was a good experience gain for our young team, against a team where all of the good payers had already won a stanley cup, they'll be back next year! Also, as long as Montreal lost i'm happy As I've said many times before, if you don't make the playoffs you really need to re-evaluate what you're doing because if you don't that means your group really sucks. Playoffs should be easy to make but actually winning it? Still one of the hardest prizes to win in all of professional sports. Making the playoffs in let's say the NFL or MLB? That's much much harder and you really do need a top notch team to do that. I'd put the NBA eastern conference in similar territory as the NHL eastern conference when it comes to actually making it in and it's been that way for so long. This post makes no sense. Half of the teams in the NHL suck? You heard me and I've said it several times in this thread before. If your team cannot make the playoffs then your team really, really sucks. It's one thing to make it in. It's another thing to win it. Stand by what I said about the NBA, NFL and MLB too. On May 14 2013 12:48 Slaughter wrote:On May 14 2013 12:45 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 14 2013 11:29 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 11:24 isaachukfan wrote:At least they made the playoffs this year, and Boston almost blew their own lead.... It was a good experience gain for our young team, against a team where all of the good payers had already won a stanley cup, they'll be back next year! Also, as long as Montreal lost i'm happy As I've said many times before, if you don't make the playoffs you really need to re-evaluate what you're doing because if you don't that means your group really sucks. Playoffs should be easy to make but actually winning it? Still one of the hardest prizes to win in all of professional sports. Making the playoffs in let's say the NFL or MLB? That's much much harder and you really do need a top notch team to do that. I'd put the NBA eastern conference in similar territory as the NHL eastern conference when it comes to actually making it in and it's been that way for so long. This post makes no sense. Half of the teams in the NHL suck? In relation to the rest of the league? Yes. Yes sir. Sorry but I think that is idiotic. Saying that a team really sucks because they got a few points less then the 16 teams (especially in such a short season) makes no sense. I would say only the teams far below 500 really suck. Some are bad, underachieving or good but not good enough. Winnipeg had a good solid team this year, so did Columbus (they had the best goalie in the league) and both didn't make the playoffs despite being over 500. Do they suck? I will concede that teams like Florida and Carolina suck though. We're not just talking about shortened-seasons man. Those points are easy pickings. Just because you have a few pieces to the puzzle doesn't mean you're going to be able to solve the whole thing. It doesn't work that way! Winnipeg and Columbus fit that bill. To make the playoffs in the NHL is a lot easier compared to other professional sports. At the end of the season you should be one of those sixteen teams that gets in. Just cause it is easier then other professional sports doesn't mean it is easy. No team is guaranteed a playoff sport and they can always be sure there are 30 other teams that are working just as hard as them and only 16 in total will get through. Saying any given team "should" make the playoffs makes no sense to me since there are 16 spots and 31 teams. Based off logic each team will have around a 50% chance given they are all around the same skill level. Thats like flipping a coin and saying it should land on heads because it has a better chance of landing on heads then a dice has of rolling a 4. No matter how good every team is there will be 15 teams not in the playoffs every year and this doesn't mean they suck, it just means there wasn't enough spots and they were not as good as they needed to be. In the context of the Leafs saying they should be happy just to make the playoffs is a perfectly acceptable statement. This would mean they did better then almost half the league when they were pegged at being near the bottom this season. If Pittsburg or Chicago got out in the first round they could not say the same thing because there is far more expectation and talent over there but in Toronto getting to the playoffs and going to game 7 overtime in round 1 is a good accomplishment.
No man. Making the playoffs just to be first round fodder? You go in to win the Cup. That's the only thing that matters not the round. Every team's goal going into the season should be to make the playoffs. Doesn't matter if it's a 82 or 48. That's just getting your foot in the door. It's not a coin-flip. There is ample opportunity to make it. Throw out what everyone else is doing and focus on what your team is doing.
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On May 14 2013 13:47 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 13:43 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 13:31 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 14 2013 13:19 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 13:11 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 14 2013 12:48 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 12:45 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 14 2013 11:29 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 11:24 isaachukfan wrote:At least they made the playoffs this year, and Boston almost blew their own lead.... It was a good experience gain for our young team, against a team where all of the good payers had already won a stanley cup, they'll be back next year! Also, as long as Montreal lost i'm happy As I've said many times before, if you don't make the playoffs you really need to re-evaluate what you're doing because if you don't that means your group really sucks. Playoffs should be easy to make but actually winning it? Still one of the hardest prizes to win in all of professional sports. Making the playoffs in let's say the NFL or MLB? That's much much harder and you really do need a top notch team to do that. I'd put the NBA eastern conference in similar territory as the NHL eastern conference when it comes to actually making it in and it's been that way for so long. This post makes no sense. Half of the teams in the NHL suck? You heard me and I've said it several times in this thread before. If your team cannot make the playoffs then your team really, really sucks. It's one thing to make it in. It's another thing to win it. Stand by what I said about the NBA, NFL and MLB too. On May 14 2013 12:48 Slaughter wrote:On May 14 2013 12:45 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 14 2013 11:29 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 11:24 isaachukfan wrote:At least they made the playoffs this year, and Boston almost blew their own lead.... It was a good experience gain for our young team, against a team where all of the good payers had already won a stanley cup, they'll be back next year! Also, as long as Montreal lost i'm happy As I've said many times before, if you don't make the playoffs you really need to re-evaluate what you're doing because if you don't that means your group really sucks. Playoffs should be easy to make but actually winning it? Still one of the hardest prizes to win in all of professional sports. Making the playoffs in let's say the NFL or MLB? That's much much harder and you really do need a top notch team to do that. I'd put the NBA eastern conference in similar territory as the NHL eastern conference when it comes to actually making it in and it's been that way for so long. This post makes no sense. Half of the teams in the NHL suck? In relation to the rest of the league? Yes. Yes sir. Sorry but I think that is idiotic. Saying that a team really sucks because they got a few points less then the 16 teams (especially in such a short season) makes no sense. I would say only the teams far below 500 really suck. Some are bad, underachieving or good but not good enough. Winnipeg had a good solid team this year, so did Columbus (they had the best goalie in the league) and both didn't make the playoffs despite being over 500. Do they suck? I will concede that teams like Florida and Carolina suck though. We're not just talking about shortened-seasons man. Those points are easy pickings. Just because you have a few pieces to the puzzle doesn't mean you're going to be able to solve the whole thing. It doesn't work that way! Winnipeg and Columbus fit that bill. To make the playoffs in the NHL is a lot easier compared to other professional sports. At the end of the season you should be one of those sixteen teams that gets in. Just cause it is easier then other professional sports doesn't mean it is easy. No team is guaranteed a playoff sport and they can always be sure there are 30 other teams that are working just as hard as them and only 16 in total will get through. Saying any given team "should" make the playoffs makes no sense to me since there are 16 spots and 31 teams. Based off logic each team will have around a 50% chance given they are all around the same skill level. Thats like flipping a coin and saying it should land on heads because it has a better chance of landing on heads then a dice has of rolling a 4. No matter how good every team is there will be 15 teams not in the playoffs every year and this doesn't mean they suck, it just means there wasn't enough spots and they were not as good as they needed to be. In the context of the Leafs saying they should be happy just to make the playoffs is a perfectly acceptable statement. This would mean they did better then almost half the league when they were pegged at being near the bottom this season. If Pittsburg or Chicago got out in the first round they could not say the same thing because there is far more expectation and talent over there but in Toronto getting to the playoffs and going to game 7 overtime in round 1 is a good accomplishment. No man. Making the playoffs just to be first round fodder? You go in to win the Cup. That's the only thing that matters not the round. Every team's goal going into the season should be to make the playoffs. Doesn't matter if it's a 82 or 48. That's just getting your foot in the door. It's not a coin-flip. There is ample opportunity to make it. Throw out what everyone else is doing and focus on what your team is doing. I don't look at it that way. It goes back to opportunity. You seem to be looking at this from a team perspective instead of a spectator perspective. If you choose to view sports like that then all the power to you.
From a spectator perspective I would hope everyone would have the highest esteem for their team. Considering I coach and play a lot of sports.. that shouldn't really be a shocker, no?
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as much as i hate that caps lost in a way they did, i'm happy for Ludkvist. The guy is an exceptional goalie, and was like that for quite some time already and he deserves a good playoffs run, if not taking the cup.
Oates got schooled by a very strong playoffs team, but that's just the start for him. The season was fun to watch, but since game 1 Caps allowed Rangers to score the first goal and rangers would never give a chance for a comeback.
I feel for ya too Leafs fans.
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On May 14 2013 14:27 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
as much as i hate that caps lost in a way they did, i'm happy for Ludkvist. The guy is an exceptional goalie, and was like that for quite some time already and he deserves a good playoffs run, if not taking the cup.
Oates got schooled by a very strong playoffs team, but that's just the start for him. The season was fun to watch, but since game 1 Caps allowed Rangers to score the first goal and rangers would never give a chance for a comeback.
I feel for ya too Leafs fans.
Got to love their D and Lund. Bruins will be in tough against them and heck, both of these teams really struggle to score at times so it should be good.
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On the bright side, feel good that you guys made me cheer for the Bruins, worst feeling in the world. But man, the hype and expectations in Toronto ramped up pretty quick last few games...
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On May 14 2013 15:23 Taku wrote:
On the bright side, feel good that you guys made me cheer for the Bruins, worst feeling in the world. But man, the hype and expectations in Toronto ramped up pretty quick last few games...
As a Canuck fan you should be pretty familiar with the hype and expectation....
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On May 14 2013 12:48 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 12:45 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 14 2013 11:29 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 11:24 isaachukfan wrote:At least they made the playoffs this year, and Boston almost blew their own lead.... It was a good experience gain for our young team, against a team where all of the good payers had already won a stanley cup, they'll be back next year! Also, as long as Montreal lost i'm happy As I've said many times before, if you don't make the playoffs you really need to re-evaluate what you're doing because if you don't that means your group really sucks. Playoffs should be easy to make but actually winning it? Still one of the hardest prizes to win in all of professional sports. Making the playoffs in let's say the NFL or MLB? That's much much harder and you really do need a top notch team to do that. I'd put the NBA eastern conference in similar territory as the NHL eastern conference when it comes to actually making it in and it's been that way for so long. This post makes no sense. Half of the teams in the NHL suck? You heard me and I've said it several times in this thread before. If your team cannot make the playoffs then your team really, really sucks. It's one thing to make it in. It's another thing to win it. Stand by what I said about the NBA, NFL and MLB too. Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 12:48 Slaughter wrote:On May 14 2013 12:45 Emzeeshady wrote:On May 14 2013 11:29 StarStruck wrote:On May 14 2013 11:24 isaachukfan wrote:At least they made the playoffs this year, and Boston almost blew their own lead.... It was a good experience gain for our young team, against a team where all of the good payers had already won a stanley cup, they'll be back next year! Also, as long as Montreal lost i'm happy As I've said many times before, if you don't make the playoffs you really need to re-evaluate what you're doing because if you don't that means your group really sucks. Playoffs should be easy to make but actually winning it? Still one of the hardest prizes to win in all of professional sports. Making the playoffs in let's say the NFL or MLB? That's much much harder and you really do need a top notch team to do that. I'd put the NBA eastern conference in similar territory as the NHL eastern conference when it comes to actually making it in and it's been that way for so long. This post makes no sense. Half of the teams in the NHL suck? In relation to the rest of the league? Yes. . This post is correct. Half the teams make it. You don't get boned nearly as hard as you would in the nfl or mlb if ur in a strong division. The 8 seeds generally suck outside of la last year and their possession and team stats made it real apparent they were not a yyour typical 8. If you can't make the playoffs you have a flawed team Yes sir.
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On May 14 2013 13:27 ROOTT1 wrote:has anyone seen this yet? http://www.faceoff.com/sports/hockey/montreal-canadiens/Jack Todd Goalie comments should alarms/8374045/story.htmli really dont think price has wat it takes to play in montreal anymore, imo we should try to sign smith/backstrom this offseason and trade price for an impact player. fuckin gionta/kaberle/moen need to gtfo too, along with our ufas (halpern, ryder, armstrong, not sure if armstrong is a ufa or not). luckily this years crop of ufas seems very promising, if we manage to sign a couple of big forwards (horton, clarckson, torres, bickell, boyes) we could probably compete with pit/boston next year. i would round out the roster with a couple of young players like sebastian collberg and dumont. our d is pretty solid when emelin is playing and both beaulieu and tinordi are nhl ready, tbh i think beaulieu is going to be a stud. markov is kinda iffy tho t.t, especially for wat hes making
Unless Collberg pulls of the sickest training camp this summer I doubt the Habs plan to use him as a core in the NHL roster this upcoming season. During the last 3 seasons he as only played 81 games in SEL and put up 9 points. That is pretty terrible compared to what some of the other guys coming out of Sweden have put up. Last season he was also loaned out to a second division team and a 3rd division team at the end of the season and put up 10 points in 16 games, some what decent for being 19 years old and playing against men, but the skill level is pretty terrible down there. The teams down there also use alot of their U-20 players so in the end it doesn't really say much.
He's still young and have put up some nice points against people his age but he can't seem to get it together on a senior level yet. He needs to play in Hamilton for a while.
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Oh man, got to go to game 7 last night, boy was it a rollercoaster of emotion. I was jeering those leaving when it looked bad, I bet they wished they stayed. Those last 11 minutes were friggin amazing. The Bs didn't bjork this one up, onto a scary Rangers squad.
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