EPTFINALLY! - The 2013 NHL Season - Page 125
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HazMat
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Kyhron
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JimmyJRaynor
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Slaughter
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On June 25 2013 12:07 JimmyJRaynor wrote: 12 goals the year the Penguins went to the finals? that is meh? 15+ goals is a Conne Smythe lock. What did he do IN the finals? Nothing really, but in that case the whole team got owned in that series. Next year he jumps ship and has an uneventful entire playoffs (albeit injured) and loses in the finals again. Then goes to Chicago and mmm I don't recall atm how he was in 2010. Still calling him a playoff monster since 2000 is a bit of a reach. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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StarStruck
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On June 25 2013 12:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Leafs were not the underdog in 2002 or 2004. Hossa broke Joseph's shutout streak in 2001. Hossa did his job. No one else did. Depends on who you ask. I always considered the Leafs an underdog back then when it came to Ottawa because our regular season record against them was pretty bad for a long stretch. Just because we were a few points ahead of them? I didn't write them off. I just looked at our regular season record against them that season and it was one of the better years, but it was still neck and neck. Hossa did get a lot of rave reviews that season, but my point still stands. I was referring to the early days of his career. By 2004 he was already a seasoned vet. | ||
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StarStruck
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On June 25 2013 12:26 Slaughter wrote: What did he do IN the finals? Nothing really, but in that case the whole team got owned in that series. Next year he jumps ship and has an uneventful entire playoffs (albeit injured) and loses in the finals again. Then goes to Chicago and mmm I don't recall atm how he was in 2010. Still calling him a playoff monster since 2000 is a bit of a reach. It's because he wasn't and that's the only point I was trying to make. | ||
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Sub40APM
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StarStruck
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On June 25 2013 12:22 Kyhron wrote: Im betting theyre feeling something similar to how Toronto did after Game7 in Round 1. That was some cold hearted ruthless way for the series to end Well, I know the Leafs dressing room was in a state of shock and there was a lot of silence. Why does this website load so slowly? ~_~ Jamal YAY! | ||
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Thallis
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On June 25 2013 12:30 Sub40APM wrote: Chicago, the new dynasty team? They'll lose Bickel who is going to get a Ward-esque salary from some team that feels it needs grit -- if the Canucks had the cap space that is where I'd bet he'd go but now with Luongo stranded and the team still needing to re-sign a bunch of guys and being at the cap guess not -- and some other supporting staff but the core is there for the long haul. West is too good. They won't win the division next year and these talks will be put to rest again. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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On June 25 2013 12:27 StarStruck wrote: Depends on who you ask. I always considered the Leafs an underdog back then when it came to Ottawa because our regular season record against them was pretty bad for a long stretch. Just because we were a few points ahead of them? I didn't write them off. I just looked at our regular season record against them that season and it was one of the better years, but it was still neck and neck. Hossa did get a lot of rave reviews that season, but my point still stands. I was referring to the early days of his career. By 2004 he was already a seasoned vet. Curtis Joseph is/was/always will be 1000X better than whatever Ottawa had in net. Belfour in 2004 was 1000X better. 2000, 2002 and 2004 Leafs beat the Senators in the regular season. Leafs always had substantially better goaltending than Ottawa. Listen to the Hossa CBC interview for an idea of the injuries he battled through this year. Hossa though out his whole career was a playoff warrior. It takes goaltending and 15 to 20 solid players to win... not just 1 hard working guy. I had very little respect for many of the Ottawa forwards after the Leafs eliminated him. Hossa was never on that list. Hossa now has 43 playoff goals. All you have to do is watch this series to realize how hard it is to score goals in the playoffs. | ||
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Sub40APM
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On June 25 2013 12:33 Thallis wrote: West is too good. They won't win the division next year and these talks will be put to rest again. they wont win the division next year? who is going to stop them? The Mild? The Blues? Those are the only other playoff teams there, everyone else is a rebuild or a disaster. | ||
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Slaughter
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On June 25 2013 12:33 Thallis wrote: West is too good. They won't win the division next year and these talks will be put to rest again. Chicago seems positioned to be good for a few years. Who is in their new division that will compete seriously with them? I don't think they will own the league like this did in this short season but they still can easily be considered a top contender for the top spot in the West next season. | ||
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StarStruck
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On June 25 2013 12:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Curtis Joseph is/was/always will be 1000X better than whatever Ottawa had in net. Belfour in 2004 was 1000X better. 2000, 2002 and 2004 Leafs beat the Senators in the regular season. Leafs always had substantially better goaltending than Ottawa. Listen to the Hossa CBC interview for an idea of the injuries he battled through this year. Hossa though out his whole career was a playoff warrior. It takes goaltending and 15 to 20 solid players to win... not just 1 hard working guy. I wouldn't agree with your last sentence bud (perhaps I should be more clear - not his whole career). I'll agree with you on the goaltenders especially when most of the games were close but more often than not I remember all those blow outs in the regular season and even in 2004 I'd say Belfour was way beyond his prime which says a lot about him because he was that fucking good. Once again I'm not questioning the kind of player he was in his prime. My remarks were based on his early playoff struggles. Just like the rest of the boys on the Ottawa roster. Didn't matter if your name was Hossa or Chara. We were able to get those guys off their game very early in their careers. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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Thallis
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On June 25 2013 12:35 Sub40APM wrote: they wont win the division next year? who is going to stop them? The Mild? The Blues? Those are the only other playoff teams there, everyone else is a rebuild or a disaster. The Blues will after the cup hangover hits them hard. This was a monumentally tough playoff for Chicago that went much deeper into the summer than it usually does. | ||
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StarStruck
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On June 25 2013 12:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Dale Tallon and Scottie Bowman are two of the best minds in the game. and it's a darn shame MLSE didn't want to give Bowman the golden key to fix our mess. I will never get over that. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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2004 Hossa > 2004 Tucker. Just check the # of minutes Hossa played for the Senators when they went to the finals in 2003. The coaches know he is a warrior. Funny how often Hossa ends up in the Stanley Cup finals.. i guess he is just as "lucky" as Claude Lemieux. also, Belfour was fucking awesome in the 2004 playoffs against the Senators. | ||
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