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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 12 2013 13:05 GMT
#1621
Been listening to podcasts and presentations by kelly starrett (watching mwod too of course). Is there any reason not to like this man??
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-13 03:14:19
June 13 2013 03:01 GMT
#1622
Alright TL Health and Fitness Initiative I just wanted to share my progress with somebody. I started lifting again in early January after a couple year break. My early weightlifting was extremely unstructured and followed some serious broscience.
I have been following this program since January. It is basically a 5x5 with some accessory work for some more volume(and less boredom). Three days a week with alternating workouts just like SS.

Routine
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A
Squat 5x5
Bench Press 5x5
Barbell Row 5x5
Barbell Shrug 3x8
Skullcrusher 3x8
Chins 3x5-8
or Striaght Bar/Incline Curl 3x8
Hyperextention 2x10
Kneeling Cable Crunch 3x10-20

B
Squat 5x5
Deadlift 1x5
Standing Press 5x5
Barbell Row 5x5 -10%
CGBP 3x8
Straight Bar or Incline Curl 3x8
Kneeling Cable Crunch 3x10-20


While researching about lifting I realized a lot of my early failures were a result of not eating enough(At 6'6" its pretty easy not to). So i corrected that and have been trying to eat 3500 or so cals per day with enough of my macros. I have gone from about 185lbs to 208lbs while keeping BF% at the same or lower(Abs are visible now, they were not before. That is probably because there was no ab muscle before and not because of dropping fat).

Main lifts progress
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Bench 5x5 95lbs ----------->180lbs
Squat 5x5 135lbs---------->230lbs
Deadlift 5x5 135lbs---------->245lbs
OH Press 5x5 50lbs-----------> 95lbs
BB Rows 5x5 95lbs----------->185lbs (Estimating Starting weight here don't remember exactly)

Pullups, went from one with shit form to 3x6 with full good form


Anyhow I am turning to you guys for some form critique on my dead-lifts and squats. I haven't made any progress on sqauts in 2 months and have been going extremely slow on deadlift progress comparatively. I feel a lot of my lack of progress is do to a lack of confidence in my form(taking it slow is probably a good thing anyways). Don't have a squat video yet(will work on getting one Friday) But I have a deadlift video from tonight(I know Vertical Video Syndrome is preventable, but I wasn't really thinking about it). Starts at like 20 secs since the floor in this stop wasn't flat (WTF!). I am 6'6" so if any of you taller people have some tips for squats and deadlifts it would be much appreciated.


Thanks for taking the time to read the wall of text. If anyone is looking to start lifting as a beginner and is looking for an alternative to starting strength I highly suggest Ice Cream Fitness 5x5
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
June 13 2013 07:35 GMT
#1623
How long should you pause on the top position during the bench press? I was really struggling my second set of bench today, and my third set I just blasted out. However, I noticed that I was not pausing very long when I hit the top whereas durring my second set I paused for a good second or two every rep (did maybe 1/2 a second every rep on third)
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
June 13 2013 12:12 GMT
#1624
@feanor1:
Don't jerk the weight up, keep the bar close, and keep your arms straight. This will help your pull start from the same position. Notice how your ass starts from significantly different positions every rep? That needs to be consistent.
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Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-13 12:48:59
June 13 2013 12:42 GMT
#1625
@feanor1 Start with the bar up against your legs and sit back as much as possible. You want to be pushing with your feet and having the bar drag right up against your legs the entire way. Right now I can see that the bar is moving in a diagnal line towards your body as it goes up, but you want it to go up in a completely vertical line.

Also it's a lot easier if the camera shot is side on from the bar, I can't see the position of the bar relative to your shoulders, which is also important.

edit:Also I noticed on the way down you're bending your knees too early so the bar has to move forwards to go around them. The way down should pretty much by the way up in reverse so lower the bar over your knees and then bend them.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-13 12:58:13
June 13 2013 12:57 GMT
#1626
On June 13 2013 16:35 Arisen wrote:
How long should you pause on the top position during the bench press? I was really struggling my second set of bench today, and my third set I just blasted out. However, I noticed that I was not pausing very long when I hit the top whereas durring my second set I paused for a good second or two every rep (did maybe 1/2 a second every rep on third)


Not sure but i never pause if i have enough energy to keep the reps up, as you say in the later sets i paus for half a second or so every 3rd rep to gain some energy back.
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-13 17:53:34
June 13 2013 17:26 GMT
#1627
Alrightttt. Back from vacation. My body has been absolutely molested. I've slept on average 2/3 hours a night for 10 days T_T and ate incredibly shitty, everything feels incredibly fatigued and I seem to have lost some weight, I'm probably down to like 8% BF or something. Tommorow after a decent nights rest(I'll be partying again because we just got the results of our exams back lool) I'm gonna hit the gym. Let's see how terrible my lifts have become. On the plus side. I looked amazing on the beach apparantly because I got random compliments from girls and friends. They never asked for my deadlift PR or how many pull ups I can do tho
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
June 13 2013 19:08 GMT
#1628
On June 12 2013 22:05 mordek wrote:
Been listening to podcasts and presentations by kelly starrett (watching mwod too of course). Is there any reason not to like this man??

He has good info but if you're looking for reasons not to like him:his book is 60 bucks, and mobilitywod is a paid product. However can't blame a businessman for taking ppl for what they're worth
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20155 Posts
June 13 2013 19:13 GMT
#1629
On June 14 2013 04:08 Arisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 22:05 mordek wrote:
Been listening to podcasts and presentations by kelly starrett (watching mwod too of course). Is there any reason not to like this man??

He has good info but if you're looking for reasons not to like him:his book is 60 bucks, and mobilitywod is a paid product. However can't blame a businessman for taking ppl for what they're worth


Book is ~30$ on amazon (0$ if you're a scallywag pirate) and he still has a ton of mwod stuff for free on youtube, both of which are entirely reasonable.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 13 2013 19:54 GMT
#1630
Hmm yeah just took a look at the paid product, which I think is recent like within the last month? I have to get through like 300 more episodes before I worry about the paid stuff :D
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5459 Posts
June 14 2013 02:37 GMT
#1631
Free gym that's 25 minutes away by walk (10-12ish by walk/bus/walk, plus bus fee)

or

Gym that's about 3 minutes away by walking, ~$40 a month.

What to choose? Assuming the facilities are about equal... Free gym is free because my wife's brother is a manager at another branch and can apparently get us free memberships.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
June 14 2013 03:40 GMT
#1632
I would drive to the free one =/
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
June 14 2013 05:23 GMT
#1633
A 10-15 minute jog to the free gym sounds like a good warmup and cool-down.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
June 14 2013 07:23 GMT
#1634
On June 14 2013 11:37 SoleSteeler wrote:
Free gym that's 25 minutes away by walk (10-12ish by walk/bus/walk, plus bus fee)

or

Gym that's about 3 minutes away by walking, ~$40 a month.

What to choose? Assuming the facilities are about equal... Free gym is free because my wife's brother is a manager at another branch and can apparently get us free memberships.


I go to a gym about a block and a half away from my house for 30 or so a month and I love it. It's so convienient. However, I just stop in on my way home from work, so it's less of a detour. For me, the time saved in travel is worth the 30 dollars a month, so that's what you have to decide about your gym as well
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
June 15 2013 22:27 GMT
#1635
No one else can make that decision because of too many other factors.

I'm going to a gym at the moment that is 2mins away from my work, means I can go do snatches in my lunch hour and then a proper work out straight after work. It's worth paying for that because I'm going to be working out so much more often.
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
June 16 2013 10:27 GMT
#1636
I'm starting to get discouraged. I've gone almost 2 weeks without any losses. I was steadily losing 2-4 lbs a week, and now I've stalled. The time coincides with starting to lift, so I don't know if I'm gaining muscle mass or if I'm just not losing for whatever reason. I wish I knew so I could correct the problem. On the upside I'm seeing good gains in both lifting and endurance running. I really want to be in the gym on my rest days too, its frustrating sitting watching tv or reading a book when you know you haven't exercised at all that day.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
June 16 2013 10:51 GMT
#1637
Now that your lifting a full length mirror is probably a 'better' measure of progress than the scales.
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 11:13:19
June 16 2013 11:04 GMT
#1638
On June 16 2013 19:51 ShadeR wrote:
Now that your lifting a full length mirror is probably a 'better' measure of progress than the scales.


This. The scale told me I didn't progress all that much, I didn't mind it but it was a little bit discouraging. However, let's say all the girls I was with on holiday were very impressed
With all the girls I mean only one :') I did get other random compliments on the beach, mostly from my female friends. And the before/after pictures show a clear difference altough the scale doesn't. Right now I probably have that ''toned'' physique many people aim for. I don't really have any goals aesthetically. I'll just keep training for strength and my body will adapt to whatever it sees fit. Anyway, I stood up really sick but I still went to the gym. Almost had to puke, luckily there was almost nothing left to puke. I did some chin ups before I went home.

I'm starting to get discouraged. I've gone almost 2 weeks without any losses. I was steadily losing 2-4 lbs a week, and now I've stalled. The time coincides with starting to lift, so I don't know if I'm gaining muscle mass or if I'm just not losing for whatever reason. I wish I knew so I could correct the problem. On the upside I'm seeing good gains in both lifting and endurance running. I really want to be in the gym on my rest days too, its frustrating sitting watching tv or reading a book when you know you haven't exercised at all that day.


I had that feeling as well when I just started. Now that stuff has gotten a bit heavier I just know that when I go to the gym on rest days I won't accomplish anything.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19200 Posts
June 16 2013 13:43 GMT
#1639
You're losing fat and gaining muscle, most likely. I plateaued for over a month when I started exercising, but I still had to go buy smaller pants.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
June 18 2013 05:25 GMT
#1640
My first day of not feeling like I had a good workout today. I did my lifts, posted gains on every lift, did my C25k workout, then left. Didn't really break too much of a sweat, wasn't really breathing hard at any point, and I don't feel sore at all right now. I don't know if my body is adapting to more consistent exercise, but for right now I feel like I didn't get enough work done when I left the gym.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
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