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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
February 05 2013 10:32 GMT
#581
On February 05 2013 12:28 AoN.DimSum wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +


awesome lifting :D


holy cow thats fantastic :D
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
February 05 2013 14:26 GMT
#582
Fantastic? That's just fucking stupid, seriously.
oh, hai
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
February 05 2013 14:34 GMT
#583
Man... she is one month away...
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
February 05 2013 14:52 GMT
#584
On February 05 2013 23:26 HornyHerring wrote:
Fantastic? That's just fucking stupid, seriously.


How is it stupid? I mean, competing is a little much, but a lot of research suggests that women (the weight gain affects lifting less than it does cardio,) who stay active, especially in lifting have easier pregnancies, gain less fat and have an easier time losing it afterwards.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 05 2013 14:59 GMT
#585
Does the bar hit her belly on the pull though? That's the only thing that would concern me...
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
February 05 2013 15:43 GMT
#586
If she fucks up she's risking the baby's life. Retarded.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 15:51:49
February 05 2013 15:50 GMT
#587
We always talk about how you need to keep your core stable and tense. Would olympic weightlifting not put a lot of pressure on the core, the core where an 8 month baby is placed? To me it seems immensely stupid to risk the health of your unborn child for a little bit of weightlifting.

edit: Not long ago we were all mocking a pregnant woman doing crossfit because she was risking her baby. How was that different from this woman? To be fair she was handling way less weight (I believe she was mostly doing pullups)
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 17:01:45
February 05 2013 17:00 GMT
#588
the pregnant crossfit lady was doing box jumps, not strength movements. Totally different


From my understanding, its perfectly safe when pregnant do perform strength lifts.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
February 05 2013 17:39 GMT
#589
On February 06 2013 02:00 AoN.DimSum wrote:
the pregnant crossfit lady was doing box jumps, not strength movements. Totally different


From my understanding, its perfectly safe when pregnant do perform strength lifts.

I don't understand how this makes sense? Most strength lifts are inherently dangerous; good form, repetition, and coaching help to reduce the risk, but the risk is always there. Add an unborn late term baby into the equation and I don't quite see where the risk goes.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
February 05 2013 17:42 GMT
#590
Seems to me strength lifts are inherently risky. I definitely wouldn't advise a pregnant woman to do it, as she is not merely risking personal injury to herself.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
February 05 2013 17:58 GMT
#591
If you don't want to hurt yourself then don't leave your room.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
February 05 2013 17:59 GMT
#592
On February 06 2013 02:58 Sneakyz wrote:
If you don't want to hurt yourself then don't leave your room.

....this is about an unborn baby at 8 months, not about whether or not someone ought to do risky lifts.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
February 05 2013 18:00 GMT
#593
On February 06 2013 02:59 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 02:58 Sneakyz wrote:
If you don't want to hurt yourself then don't leave your room.

....this is about an unborn baby at 8 months, not about whether or not someone ought to do risky lifts.

I'd rate the chance of dying in a car crash a lot higher than injuring her baby lifting weights. No difference.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
February 05 2013 18:09 GMT
#594
On February 06 2013 03:00 Sneakyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 02:59 farvacola wrote:
On February 06 2013 02:58 Sneakyz wrote:
If you don't want to hurt yourself then don't leave your room.

....this is about an unborn baby at 8 months, not about whether or not someone ought to do risky lifts.

I'd rate the chance of dying in a car crash a lot higher than injuring her baby lifting weights. No difference.

Have you ever trained a pregnant woman? Are you at all familiar with how a pregnancy shifts and changes a woman's pelvic and rib setup? Furthermore, do you have actual experience with which to judge the safety of a pregnant woman lifting, or are you simply poorly citing an internet probability?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
February 05 2013 18:17 GMT
#595
On February 06 2013 03:09 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 03:00 Sneakyz wrote:
On February 06 2013 02:59 farvacola wrote:
On February 06 2013 02:58 Sneakyz wrote:
If you don't want to hurt yourself then don't leave your room.

....this is about an unborn baby at 8 months, not about whether or not someone ought to do risky lifts.

I'd rate the chance of dying in a car crash a lot higher than injuring her baby lifting weights. No difference.

Have you ever trained a pregnant woman? Are you at all familiar with how a pregnancy shifts and changes a woman's pelvic and rib setup? Furthermore, do you have actual experience with which to judge the safety of a pregnant woman lifting, or are you simply poorly citing an internet probability?

I wouldn't consider training a pregnant woman very relevant, but no, I haven't. The only advice I've seen about lifting weights and pregnancy is that lifting is good for you. Just don't do too much valsalva stuff and maybe cut out bench presses.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
February 05 2013 18:24 GMT
#596
On February 06 2013 03:17 Sneakyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 03:09 farvacola wrote:
On February 06 2013 03:00 Sneakyz wrote:
On February 06 2013 02:59 farvacola wrote:
On February 06 2013 02:58 Sneakyz wrote:
If you don't want to hurt yourself then don't leave your room.

....this is about an unborn baby at 8 months, not about whether or not someone ought to do risky lifts.

I'd rate the chance of dying in a car crash a lot higher than injuring her baby lifting weights. No difference.

Have you ever trained a pregnant woman? Are you at all familiar with how a pregnancy shifts and changes a woman's pelvic and rib setup? Furthermore, do you have actual experience with which to judge the safety of a pregnant woman lifting, or are you simply poorly citing an internet probability?

I wouldn't consider training a pregnant woman very relevant, but no, I haven't. The only advice I've seen about lifting weights and pregnancy is that lifting is good for you. Just don't do too much valsalva stuff and maybe cut out bench presses.

Ok well, just so it doesn't seem like I'm rambling on here, the gym I currently work at is fairly close to a hospital, and accordingly I've had and currently have a few pregnant clients. You are definitely right to recommend lifting to a pregnant woman, that much is true. The problem I have with the video in question is that the woman is doing olympic lifts, lifts that practically require some degree of valsalva in order to get the ribcage and stomach tight. My point is that if one does a proper power clean or clean and jerk, they must be putting a ton of pressure into the abdomen, and that is the singe most important thing to avoid in late-term pregnancy workouts.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
February 05 2013 18:53 GMT
#597
On February 06 2013 03:24 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 03:17 Sneakyz wrote:
On February 06 2013 03:09 farvacola wrote:
On February 06 2013 03:00 Sneakyz wrote:
On February 06 2013 02:59 farvacola wrote:
On February 06 2013 02:58 Sneakyz wrote:
If you don't want to hurt yourself then don't leave your room.

....this is about an unborn baby at 8 months, not about whether or not someone ought to do risky lifts.

I'd rate the chance of dying in a car crash a lot higher than injuring her baby lifting weights. No difference.

Have you ever trained a pregnant woman? Are you at all familiar with how a pregnancy shifts and changes a woman's pelvic and rib setup? Furthermore, do you have actual experience with which to judge the safety of a pregnant woman lifting, or are you simply poorly citing an internet probability?

I wouldn't consider training a pregnant woman very relevant, but no, I haven't. The only advice I've seen about lifting weights and pregnancy is that lifting is good for you. Just don't do too much valsalva stuff and maybe cut out bench presses.

Ok well, just so it doesn't seem like I'm rambling on here, the gym I currently work at is fairly close to a hospital, and accordingly I've had and currently have a few pregnant clients. You are definitely right to recommend lifting to a pregnant woman, that much is true. The problem I have with the video in question is that the woman is doing olympic lifts, lifts that practically require some degree of valsalva in order to get the ribcage and stomach tight. My point is that if one does a proper power clean or clean and jerk, they must be putting a ton of pressure into the abdomen, and that is the singe most important thing to avoid in late-term pregnancy workouts.

To be fair, "ton of pressure" is relative. Those lifts looked pretty easy for her.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
February 05 2013 18:57 GMT
#598
On February 06 2013 03:53 infinity21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 03:24 farvacola wrote:
On February 06 2013 03:17 Sneakyz wrote:
On February 06 2013 03:09 farvacola wrote:
On February 06 2013 03:00 Sneakyz wrote:
On February 06 2013 02:59 farvacola wrote:
On February 06 2013 02:58 Sneakyz wrote:
If you don't want to hurt yourself then don't leave your room.

....this is about an unborn baby at 8 months, not about whether or not someone ought to do risky lifts.

I'd rate the chance of dying in a car crash a lot higher than injuring her baby lifting weights. No difference.

Have you ever trained a pregnant woman? Are you at all familiar with how a pregnancy shifts and changes a woman's pelvic and rib setup? Furthermore, do you have actual experience with which to judge the safety of a pregnant woman lifting, or are you simply poorly citing an internet probability?

I wouldn't consider training a pregnant woman very relevant, but no, I haven't. The only advice I've seen about lifting weights and pregnancy is that lifting is good for you. Just don't do too much valsalva stuff and maybe cut out bench presses.

Ok well, just so it doesn't seem like I'm rambling on here, the gym I currently work at is fairly close to a hospital, and accordingly I've had and currently have a few pregnant clients. You are definitely right to recommend lifting to a pregnant woman, that much is true. The problem I have with the video in question is that the woman is doing olympic lifts, lifts that practically require some degree of valsalva in order to get the ribcage and stomach tight. My point is that if one does a proper power clean or clean and jerk, they must be putting a ton of pressure into the abdomen, and that is the singe most important thing to avoid in late-term pregnancy workouts.

To be fair, "ton of pressure" is relative. Those lifts looked pretty easy for her.

Yes, I'd suppose the mitigating factor here would be whether or not she is an elite athlete, but I'm still uncomfortable with encouraging this sort of exercise while pregnant.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
February 05 2013 19:09 GMT
#599
She was a resident for the olympic training center, plus there is a video of her squatting 140 very easily for reps on facebook so I didnt think she was straining herself.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
February 05 2013 19:14 GMT
#600
On February 06 2013 04:09 AoN.DimSum wrote:
She was a resident for the olympic training center, plus there is a video of her squatting 140 very easily for reps on facebook so I didnt think she was straining herself.

Yeah, after researching her exploits I'd probably say that she's ok to go. My biggest concern is not necessarily with her per se, rather the legions of poorly informed, 2 month in crossfitters who see videos like that with no disclaimer and think "well gosh, that looks like fun".
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
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