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HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
January 22 2013 00:05 GMT
#341
Good job, Zowon!

On January 22 2013 08:37 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 06:38 Zowon wrote:
I just made a video on my 1 year transformation :-) Would be happy if you guys could check it out and tell me what you think!


Pretty sick transformation. Grats on some great work.

What were the keys to the core development? Diet the biggest factor? How were you training dem abs?

Everyone has abs, you just need to get that lard off ya belly to show em. Doesn't really matter what you do and how you train as long as it's covered with fat. Get your diet and just do some core excersises, once they start showing you can start thinking about developing which ones you want to stick out the most. Supersetted: hanging knee rise -> crunch -> reverse crunch -> bicycle. USe BW, if you can go over 45sec on an ex. add weights. You can add some planks if you want, for endurance.
oh, hai
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
January 22 2013 04:04 GMT
#342
I'd hesitate to recommend crunches just because I've read so much stuff about them being bad for you (along the lines of herniating discs). But then again some people like to say squats are bad for your knees, so if anyone can enlighten me I'd appreciate it. All I do is HLRs and maybe some planks, seems plenty for me.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
January 22 2013 04:57 GMT
#343
On January 22 2013 13:04 Deadeight wrote:
I'd hesitate to recommend crunches just because I've read so much stuff about them being bad for you (along the lines of herniating discs). But then again some people like to say squats are bad for your knees, so if anyone can enlighten me I'd appreciate it. All I do is HLRs and maybe some planks, seems plenty for me.


My favorite way to put some burn on the abs is to do (don't know if there's a fancy name for it) chinups with my legs out ninety degrees in front of me. No pressure on the back or tailbone, makes it work a lot of stuff, and helps train your body to keep your core tight when doing things not "directly" related to it.

Since I do martial arts, that last is important, the last thing you want is to let a good kick slip through your guard when you weren't tightened up. I've taken some shots that would have landed most people on their ass and not even slowed down my counterkick.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
January 22 2013 05:20 GMT
#344
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=394593

Sheth is doing paleo
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
January 22 2013 05:28 GMT
#345
My lower back gives up first when doing squats and I can't find out why. It happens with and without belt, prolly more without though.
I focus on keeping tight abs, shoulders back and down, etc. My back is relatively stronger than my legs.
The only reason that I can come with is my leverages are very lean foward type squats (long back, short legs) but I guess that is the case with all powerlifters?

Squat: 162.5kgx3x6 (low bar), 120kgx7x2(high bar, still lots of discomfort) (my back couldn't take it)

Like, enormous amount of pain in my lower back muscles, to the point they get really tight and I need like 20 mins for them to loosen up so I can start pressing. Pain is gone completely by the end of pressing (mostly OHP) and no pain at all afterwards, it just cuts my squat sessions short.

Any ideas?
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
January 22 2013 08:13 GMT
#346
Question on overhead press:

Tried to figure my 1RM tonight and I felt like I was cheating quite a bit.. How much am I allowed to use my legs and stuff? Do I need to worry if I'm bouncing?
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
January 22 2013 08:59 GMT
#347
On January 22 2013 13:04 Deadeight wrote:
I'd hesitate to recommend crunches just because I've read so much stuff about them being bad for you (along the lines of herniating discs). But then again some people like to say squats are bad for your knees, so if anyone can enlighten me I'd appreciate it. All I do is HLRs and maybe some planks, seems plenty for me.
I don't think there's any risk if you're maintaining proper form. I wouldn't recomend placing your hands at the back of your head like people usually do, when your abs gets tired, people tend to try to use their arms to help themselves get a few more and they're putting pressure on the spine.
http://scoobysworkshop.com/abdominal-exercises/
oh, hai
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
January 22 2013 09:08 GMT
#348
On January 22 2013 17:13 MrBitter wrote:
Question on overhead press:

Tried to figure my 1RM tonight and I felt like I was cheating quite a bit.. How much am I allowed to use my legs and stuff? Do I need to worry if I'm bouncing?

Legs should be locked during the lift. If you are bouncing the weight with your legs then you're doing a push press.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
January 22 2013 09:53 GMT
#349
On January 22 2013 14:28 GoTuNk! wrote:
My lower back gives up first when doing squats and I can't find out why. It happens with and without belt, prolly more without though.
I focus on keeping tight abs, shoulders back and down, etc. My back is relatively stronger than my legs.
The only reason that I can come with is my leverages are very lean foward type squats (long back, short legs) but I guess that is the case with all powerlifters?

Squat: 162.5kgx3x6 (low bar), 120kgx7x2(high bar, still lots of discomfort) (my back couldn't take it)

Like, enormous amount of pain in my lower back muscles, to the point they get really tight and I need like 20 mins for them to loosen up so I can start pressing. Pain is gone completely by the end of pressing (mostly OHP) and no pain at all afterwards, it just cuts my squat sessions short.

Any ideas?


dont allow yourself to do any reps in which you're leaning forward inadvertently. thats how i mashed up my back and still need to get an xray 1-2 yrs later
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
January 22 2013 13:21 GMT
#350
On January 22 2013 13:57 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 13:04 Deadeight wrote:
I'd hesitate to recommend crunches just because I've read so much stuff about them being bad for you (along the lines of herniating discs). But then again some people like to say squats are bad for your knees, so if anyone can enlighten me I'd appreciate it. All I do is HLRs and maybe some planks, seems plenty for me.


My favorite way to put some burn on the abs is to do (don't know if there's a fancy name for it) chinups with my legs out ninety degrees in front of me. No pressure on the back or tailbone, makes it work a lot of stuff, and helps train your body to keep your core tight when doing things not "directly" related to it.

Since I do martial arts, that last is important, the last thing you want is to let a good kick slip through your guard when you weren't tightened up. I've taken some shots that would have landed most people on their ass and not even slowed down my counterkick.

My guess is it's called an L-sit Chinup.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
January 22 2013 13:59 GMT
#351
On January 22 2013 14:20 Froadac wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=394593

Sheth is doing paleo


I can't listen to people outside this forum talk about diet, it make my head hurt >_<
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
January 22 2013 14:20 GMT
#352
At least it seems Sheth is getting decent advice. (not from the posters in that thread)
It will be pretty cool to watch his progress though.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
January 22 2013 16:20 GMT
#353
On January 22 2013 22:59 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 14:20 Froadac wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=394593

Sheth is doing paleo


I can't listen to people outside this forum talk about diet, it make my head hurt >_<

It's not like we here know it all.
oh, hai
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
January 22 2013 22:21 GMT
#354
So hopefully my weight lifting starts up around early March (trying to convince my friends to do it with me ^^). I've been trying to build up endurance and the like, mostly doing dumbbell and bodyweight exercises. Not really using an organized workout, sort of going through and doing different body parts and trying to just get my heart rate up while using moderately heavy weights (20 lbs for easier exercises, 10 or 15 for harder ones like pushups w/ prone rows).

Are there any good ways to train my legs using only bodyweight/light dumbbells, or should I just wait until I start using a barbell to worry about my lower body? I tried using the leg press and stuff at my gym, but it's really easy (after about 5 workouts of doing 10 reps of it, I got up to 270 and weigh 140 lbs) and doesn't seem very effective. Goblet squats seem like they're decent, but the issue with them is the lower weight (they're good for training good form it seems though). I've definitely been feeling some soreness in my ass/hamstrings, especially since I have tight hamstrings, but I feel like the fattiest part of my body is my lower body and I'm trying to build up strength there.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
January 22 2013 23:08 GMT
#355
14lb of whey protein has finally arrived. Time for massive gainz
Official Entusman #21
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20019 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 23:35:33
January 22 2013 23:34 GMT
#356
Mtl, look into doing pistol squats. Plyometrics like box jumps and sprints etc are good too.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
January 22 2013 23:58 GMT
#357
On January 22 2013 17:59 HornyHerring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 13:04 Deadeight wrote:
I'd hesitate to recommend crunches just because I've read so much stuff about them being bad for you (along the lines of herniating discs). But then again some people like to say squats are bad for your knees, so if anyone can enlighten me I'd appreciate it. All I do is HLRs and maybe some planks, seems plenty for me.
I don't think there's any risk if you're maintaining proper form. I wouldn't recomend placing your hands at the back of your head like people usually do, when your abs gets tired, people tend to try to use their arms to help themselves get a few more and they're putting pressure on the spine.
http://scoobysworkshop.com/abdominal-exercises/



Isn't scooby the guy who says to just do leg press instead of squats?

I did a bit of research and crunches get a lot of hate, but you're right it's safer to do them with correct form (only moving the thoracic and not the lumbar spine). But you could easily do HLRs (or planks) and then you also get to work in rep ranges of 10-20 instead of like 200.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
January 23 2013 00:00 GMT
#358
On January 23 2013 08:34 decafchicken wrote:
Mtl, look into doing pistol squats. Plyometrics like box jumps and sprints etc are good too.

You can also hold dumbbells while doing pistol squats to make it a little more challenging.
Official Entusman #21
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 00:21:16
January 23 2013 00:16 GMT
#359
On January 23 2013 08:58 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 17:59 HornyHerring wrote:
On January 22 2013 13:04 Deadeight wrote:
I'd hesitate to recommend crunches just because I've read so much stuff about them being bad for you (along the lines of herniating discs). But then again some people like to say squats are bad for your knees, so if anyone can enlighten me I'd appreciate it. All I do is HLRs and maybe some planks, seems plenty for me.
I don't think there's any risk if you're maintaining proper form. I wouldn't recomend placing your hands at the back of your head like people usually do, when your abs gets tired, people tend to try to use their arms to help themselves get a few more and they're putting pressure on the spine.
http://scoobysworkshop.com/abdominal-exercises/



Isn't scooby the guy who says to just do leg press instead of squats?

I did a bit of research and crunches get a lot of hate, but you're right it's safer to do them with correct form (only moving the thoracic and not the lumbar spine). But you could easily do HLRs (or planks) and then you also get to work in rep ranges of 10-20 instead of like 200.

Never heared him saying that, but he's always advocating perfecting form and safety is his number one priority with exercises. And well, squats aren't among the safest exercises, that's for sure.

You can do all kinds of funky shit on a physioball as well. And doing 200 hlr reps is really out of my league. :D


@Mtl: Lunges and jumping lunges are pretty cool.
oh, hai
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
January 23 2013 00:25 GMT
#360
On January 22 2013 22:59 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 14:20 Froadac wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=394593

Sheth is doing paleo


I can't listen to people outside this forum talk about diet, it make my head hurt >_<


yeah I skimmed through that and wanted to kick a baby
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
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