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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
February 04 2013 19:00 GMT
#5401
On February 05 2013 03:50 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 03:41 Twisted wrote:
Löw is biased? You should look at our national manager :D.

He has some very pragmatic rules on who to select.


What? You're questioning Van Gaal!?!


Haha true, maybe he'll give me a call now explaining why he's right and tell me that he told me this already. Then he'll proceed to tell me what he has won so far.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18713 Posts
February 04 2013 19:15 GMT
#5402
On February 05 2013 03:57 Dirkinity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 03:38 hns wrote:
You are aware that also your beloved Dortmund guys once debuted in a friendly, right? :>


I don't watch stupid nationalteam-games. Only World Cup and EURO is worth it. Who is so stupid to watch Germany play Uzbekistan or some of these 3rd world countries?
Thats like watching MVP destroying some NA-Goldleaguer... just no fun at all!


Yeah you insulting Uzbekistan football shows you have no idea of football whatsoever lol.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
February 04 2013 19:41 GMT
#5403
On February 05 2013 03:57 Dirkinity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 03:38 hns wrote:
You are aware that also your beloved Dortmund guys once debuted in a friendly, right? :>


I don't watch stupid nationalteam-games. Only World Cup and EURO is worth it. Who is so stupid to watch Germany play Uzbekistan or some of these 3rd world countries?
Thats like watching MVP destroying some NA-Goldleaguer... just no fun at all!


This "third world country" that Germany is playing happens to be ranked 17th in the world.
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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
February 04 2013 20:38 GMT
#5404
On February 05 2013 04:00 Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 03:50 RvB wrote:
On February 05 2013 03:41 Twisted wrote:
Löw is biased? You should look at our national manager :D.

He has some very pragmatic rules on who to select.


What? You're questioning Van Gaal!?!


Haha true, maybe he'll give me a call now explaining why he's right and tell me that he told me this already. Then he'll proceed to tell me what he has won so far.

:D

I miss his interviews so much, always entertaining
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6303 Posts
February 04 2013 21:23 GMT
#5405
On February 05 2013 05:38 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 04:00 Twisted wrote:
On February 05 2013 03:50 RvB wrote:
On February 05 2013 03:41 Twisted wrote:
Löw is biased? You should look at our national manager :D.

He has some very pragmatic rules on who to select.


What? You're questioning Van Gaal!?!


Haha true, maybe he'll give me a call now explaining why he's right and tell me that he told me this already. Then he'll proceed to tell me what he has won so far.

:D

I miss his interviews so much, always entertaining


Well you now get Guardiola who follows the Van Gaal philosophy so I am sure you'll get Van Gaal like interviews from him >.>.
Lovedrop
Profile Joined April 2010
2629 Posts
February 04 2013 23:39 GMT
#5406
Liverpool 1 - 0 Debrecen was the match.

http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/fodbold/udenlandsk_fodbold/championsleague/article1914236.ece

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/the-fixed-champions-league-game-was-liverpool-1-debrecen-0-sept-2009/

Writerundefeated thunderdome champion 。゚+.(o´・ω・`o)+.゚。イィ!! :+:+: @lubdrop
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
February 05 2013 00:07 GMT
#5407
On February 05 2013 08:39 Lovedrop wrote:
Liverpool 1 - 0 Debrecen was the match.

http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/fodbold/udenlandsk_fodbold/championsleague/article1914236.ece

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/the-fixed-champions-league-game-was-liverpool-1-debrecen-0-sept-2009/


So they were supposed to let in at least three goals and Liverpool couldn't score three when the match was fixed ?

Good god my sides.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 08:46:01
February 05 2013 08:41 GMT
#5408
Well that makes no sense to me. Supposed to let in 3 or more goals....and they lost 1-0 O.0
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
anomalopidae
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovenia549 Posts
February 05 2013 09:14 GMT
#5409
On February 05 2013 17:41 Pandemona wrote:
Well that makes no sense to me. Supposed to let in 3 or more goals....and they lost 1-0 O.0


well, he can't exactly kick the ball in himself, would look too suspicious :D
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BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
February 05 2013 09:21 GMT
#5410
i think he didn't know it would be difficult to concede 3 goals from liverpool on purpose
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 05 2013 09:37 GMT
#5411
Haha, all jokes aside they did have "7" shots on target though? If he "parried" the one into Torres (if u look at video and read the review of the game) you will notice.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
February 05 2013 09:49 GMT
#5412
On February 05 2013 08:39 Lovedrop wrote:
Liverpool 1 - 0 Debrecen was the match.

http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/fodbold/udenlandsk_fodbold/championsleague/article1914236.ece

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/the-fixed-champions-league-game-was-liverpool-1-debrecen-0-sept-2009/


After the ' 2008-09 disgrace at the Stanford Bridge' I lost all hope for European football.
Swedish referee Anders Frisk - Invited the Barça manager, Frank Rijkaard, into his room at half-time, an act that is against UEFA regulations. Swiftly retired after the match
Norwegian referee Terje Hauge - After the scandal with the Del Horno-Messi playacting UEFA put him in charge of the Champions League final in which Arsenal played Barcelona no less, and guess what happened?
Norwegian referee Tom Henning Øvrebø - Disgrace. This whole match-fixing thing made me go back and watch highlights of this game again... Words cannot explain. Swiftly retired after the match
Looking through the match-fixing allegations Barcelona has been accused of serious high-level rigging 5 times a year on average in the last 10/15 years
“I just have one question: Why?,” he added. ”Why Ovrebo [Chelsea vs. Barcelona referee in 2007 semi-final], Busacca [Barcelona vs. Arsenal in this year's Champions League], Stark? In each semi-final it is the same. We are talking about an absolutely fantastic team. Why didn’t Chelsea make the final? Why did Inter have to be saved by a miracle?
”Why do the opponents of Barcelona always have a man sent off? Where does this power come from? Maybe it is to give more publicity to UNICEF, maybe because of the power of (Spanish federation president Jose Angel) Villar in UEFA.”
”Josep Guardiola is a fantastic football coach, but the Champions League he won was an embarrassment because of what happened at Stamford Bridge – it was a scandal. And if he wins it this year, he will win after the scandal at the Bernabeu. Let’s hope he gets the chance to win a clean Champions League (in future), without scandals. -Mourinho

Again no formal investigation, no nothing. Maybe I will quote this post in 10 years when Barcelona are stripped of their titles but that would be ten years too long.
European football has no hope, I stopped watching it after the disgrace at the Stanford Bridge and it just goes to show you what a feat and magical run it was for Chelsea to win the CL last year.

I'd like to add I'm probably still under the influence of watching highlights of Ovrebo
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Dirkinity
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany409 Posts
February 05 2013 10:03 GMT
#5413
On February 05 2013 04:41 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 03:57 Dirkinity wrote:
On February 05 2013 03:38 hns wrote:
You are aware that also your beloved Dortmund guys once debuted in a friendly, right? :>


I don't watch stupid nationalteam-games. Only World Cup and EURO is worth it. Who is so stupid to watch Germany play Uzbekistan or some of these 3rd world countries?
Thats like watching MVP destroying some NA-Goldleaguer... just no fun at all!


This "third world country" that Germany is playing happens to be ranked 17th in the world.


No one cares about a friendly! Germany is playing with its D-Squad and France isn't going to care much either.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 10:12:55
February 05 2013 10:05 GMT
#5414
On February 05 2013 18:49 ahappystar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 08:39 Lovedrop wrote:
Liverpool 1 - 0 Debrecen was the match.

http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/fodbold/udenlandsk_fodbold/championsleague/article1914236.ece

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/the-fixed-champions-league-game-was-liverpool-1-debrecen-0-sept-2009/


After the ' 2008-09 disgrace at the Stanford Bridge' I lost all hope for European football.
Swedish referee Anders Frisk - Invited the Barça manager, Frank Rijkaard, into his room at half-time, an act that is against UEFA regulations. Swiftly retired after the match
Norwegian referee Terje Hauge - After the scandal with the Del Horno-Messi playacting UEFA put him in charge of the Champions League final in which Arsenal played Barcelona no less, and guess what happened?
Norwegian referee Tom Henning Øvrebø - Disgrace. This whole match-fixing thing made me go back and watch highlights of this game again... Words cannot explain. Swiftly retired after the match
Looking through the match-fixing allegations Barcelona has been accused of serious high-level rigging 5 times a year on average in the last 10/15 years
Show nested quote +
“I just have one question: Why?,” he added. ”Why Ovrebo [Chelsea vs. Barcelona referee in 2007 semi-final], Busacca [Barcelona vs. Arsenal in this year's Champions League], Stark? In each semi-final it is the same. We are talking about an absolutely fantastic team. Why didn’t Chelsea make the final? Why did Inter have to be saved by a miracle?
”Why do the opponents of Barcelona always have a man sent off? Where does this power come from? Maybe it is to give more publicity to UNICEF, maybe because of the power of (Spanish federation president Jose Angel) Villar in UEFA.”
”Josep Guardiola is a fantastic football coach, but the Champions League he won was an embarrassment because of what happened at Stamford Bridge – it was a scandal. And if he wins it this year, he will win after the scandal at the Bernabeu. Let’s hope he gets the chance to win a clean Champions League (in future), without scandals. -Mourinho

Again no formal investigation, no nothing. Maybe I will quote this post in 10 years when Barcelona are stripped of their titles but that would be ten years too long.
European football has no hope, I stopped watching it after the disgrace at the Stanford Bridge and it just goes to show you what a feat and magical run it was for Chelsea to win the CL last year.

I'd like to add I'm probably still under the influence of watching highlights of Ovrebo


Facepalming so hard now. So much troll around here.

On February 05 2013 19:03 Dirkinity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 04:41 Ferrose wrote:
On February 05 2013 03:57 Dirkinity wrote:
On February 05 2013 03:38 hns wrote:
You are aware that also your beloved Dortmund guys once debuted in a friendly, right? :>


I don't watch stupid nationalteam-games. Only World Cup and EURO is worth it. Who is so stupid to watch Germany play Uzbekistan or some of these 3rd world countries?
Thats like watching MVP destroying some NA-Goldleaguer... just no fun at all!


This "third world country" that Germany is playing happens to be ranked 17th in the world.


No one cares about a friendly! Germany is playing with its D-Squad and France isn't going to care much either.


Correction, you dont care about a friendly.

People who actually give a shit about football should be able to see the value of that "D-Squad" playing.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-05 10:09:38
February 05 2013 10:09 GMT
#5415
On February 05 2013 02:44 sharkie wrote:
There is no reason Gomez is being nominated and Kiesling not.

Except the obvious reason of Gomez used to play for Stuttgart and Kießling not. That's a very important factor for Loew who is very biased.

The reason is Kießling is not the type of player Löw wants in the national team. It's not like he was ever a fan of Gomez either.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2742 Posts
February 05 2013 10:23 GMT
#5416
Oporto talent scout must be the best in the world. It is incredible how all years Oporto buy uknown cheap players and then They sell to other teams as expensive players. The earn lot of money all years in trades.

Falcao, Hulk and lot of other players. And now "Jackson Martinez" is scoring a lot and sure they will sell it by lot of money again.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
February 05 2013 10:32 GMT
#5417
On February 05 2013 19:23 haitike wrote:
Oporto talent scout must be the best in the world. It is incredible how all years Oporto buy uknown cheap players and then They sell to other teams as expensive players. The earn lot of money all years in trades.

Falcao, Hulk and lot of other players. And now "Jackson Martinez" is scoring a lot and sure they will sell it by lot of money again.


On September 05 2012 17:28 Rebs wrote:

I agree Portugal is where decent players go to become great players imo. Both Benfica and Porto in particular have done a crazy good job the last half a decade especially with respect to South Americans.

Taking the wonder kids out of South America and throwing them into top clubs straight away is so risky. It often ends up wasting a huge chunk of the players development stage and the club doesnt get much out of it either,

Want your South American done right ? Send him to Portugal. Its obvious they know their shit they make good players and seem to profit when they let them go (dont seem to mind it to much either).

warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
February 05 2013 12:05 GMT
#5418
Question is whether Porto or Benfica can get to the next level and actually compete consistently at the top tier. Unfortunately with the current economic climate in Portugal, stadium attendance and sponsorship deals are suffering. Being a mere feeder club forever is a somewhat ungrateful position. IMO they should move to La Liga.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 05 2013 12:09 GMT
#5419
Lol xD
But Benfica and Porto have competed at the Champions league level for years? Since 2000s anyway when i was following it religiously. They always made the knock out stages, and most notably the last 8 on some occasions. Not a bad place for a "feeder" club is it? Benfica pushed Barcelona and Chelsea in last seasons competition.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
February 05 2013 12:11 GMT
#5420
On February 05 2013 21:05 warding wrote:
Question is whether Porto or Benfica can get to the next level and actually compete consistently at the top tier. Unfortunately with the current economic climate in Portugal, stadium attendance and sponsorship deals are suffering. Being a mere feeder club forever is a somewhat ungrateful position. IMO they should move to La Liga.


IMO they should too, and so should Rangers and Celtic move to the english league.

Also, I'm withn Darkinity on this one...fuck national friendlies. They may be useful but they a) injure players, b) interrupt the football season and create black holes of entertainment and c) are not exciting to watch. And because the level of intensity from the players is usually less it's a pathetic chance to actually observe up and coming players or even the tactical validity of certain systems. Like when we beat Spain 1-0 just before the WC.
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