On January 26 2012 07:34 Orpheos wrote: Im i the only one who feels squatting wasnt that hard to learn? Im not really scared of them at all. deadlifts on the other hand >_< scare my lower back.
yeah squats arent that hard imo. but yeah, risk of injury is always there of course. its just kind of a stupid arguments not to do squats and go play basketball instead imo but lets move on
eshlow, i get some small pains and stiffness in my lower back after deadlifts. I've asked several instructors to spot my technique, and they say it looks pretty okay. Could it just be that I'm not flexible enough? Should I stop deadlifting, or just continue and see if the "problems" disappear?
On January 26 2012 08:06 steelANDmalice wrote: Thanks for the advice Phyre I shall stop taking excedrin , I sent my girlfriend out to pick me up some fish oil and she asked the pharmacist what I should take and he told her to get me muscle and back pain ASA 500mg it has methocarbamol 400mg and acetylsalicylic 500mg but doesn't say if it has any Ibuprofen. Is this a good enough substitute?
Pharmacist is much more qualified than I am of course . If you asked him for an anti inflammatory, I'm sure he gave you the right stuff. Ibuprofen is just the "basic" response when an anti-inflam is needed, and it's available everywhere, so it's the recommendation online like this.
@orpheos I've had a HELL of a time learning to squat properly. The deadlift on the other hand is the most natural movement in the world. I'm not built to squat though, long limbs, slim build. I've injured myself seriously (knees) doing them before, but I think I've got it down now.
On January 26 2012 07:34 Orpheos wrote: Im i the only one who feels squatting wasnt that hard to learn? Im not really scared of them at all. deadlifts on the other hand >_< scare my lower back.
Same as everyone else, deadlift came easy to me and squat was damn hard. I must have "fixed" my squat technique at least four times. Also, if you look in your typical gym, I'd guess that at most, 20% of people squat properly. I'm not sure what the stats are for deadlift since so few people deadlift where I gym, but I can't believe that it's anything near as bad.
On January 26 2012 08:20 ludic123 wrote: eshlow, i get some small pains and stiffness in my lower back after deadlifts. I've asked several instructors to spot my technique, and they say it looks pretty okay. Could it just be that I'm not flexible enough? Should I stop deadlifting, or just continue and see if the "problems" disappear?
Do some mobility work from the spine section here and see if it helps
On January 26 2012 08:20 ludic123 wrote: eshlow, i get some small pains and stiffness in my lower back after deadlifts. I've asked several instructors to spot my technique, and they say it looks pretty okay. Could it just be that I'm not flexible enough? Should I stop deadlifting, or just continue and see if the "problems" disappear?
On January 26 2012 07:34 Orpheos wrote: Im i the only one who feels squatting wasnt that hard to learn? Im not really scared of them at all. deadlifts on the other hand >_< scare my lower back.
Same as everyone else, deadlift came easy to me and squat was damn hard. I must have "fixed" my squat technique at least four times. Also, if you look in your typical gym, I'd guess that at most, 20% of people squat properly. I'm not sure what the stats are for deadlift since so few people deadlift where I gym, but I can't believe that it's anything near as bad.
meh I guess Im always scared my back is over arched or too rounded or w/e combined with the fact that deadlift is the heaviest weight makes me scared. i guess its more scared than "hard to learn" because im more scared about a flimsy back in a pivoting motion than my giant leg muscles in a pushing motion.
oh and @ zafrumi... pretty much the only thing you can say to those pics is "DAT ASS". more of a breast man myself but DAYUM.
Misha is a fucking badass. "10 kids waiting to beat me up so i go into sport"
On January 26 2012 07:34 Orpheos wrote: Im i the only one who feels squatting wasnt that hard to learn? Im not really scared of them at all. deadlifts on the other hand >_< scare my lower back.
Yeah i never really had a problem squatting. I mean i did it wrong for a while but i didn't have any trouble correcting my technique. Deadlifting came really natural to me once i learned to keep my back straight, i've got a short torso and long ass limbs.
On January 26 2012 08:20 ludic123 wrote: eshlow, i get some small pains and stiffness in my lower back after deadlifts. I've asked several instructors to spot my technique, and they say it looks pretty okay. Could it just be that I'm not flexible enough? Should I stop deadlifting, or just continue and see if the "problems" disappear?
Are you keeping your abs really really tight?
Oh, do I need to do that? I guess I'll try and see if it helps. Thanks. And thanks, eshlow. I'll try out those exercises. Can i deadlift in the meantime, or should i postpone till' I've done the exercises a few times?
On January 26 2012 07:34 Orpheos wrote: Im i the only one who feels squatting wasnt that hard to learn? Im not really scared of them at all. deadlifts on the other hand >_< scare my lower back.
yeah squats arent that hard imo. but yeah, risk of injury is always there of course. its just kind of a stupid arguments not to do squats and go play basketball instead imo but lets move on
Haven't been able to visit gym for last 4 weeks because of my back injury from squats. Obviously squats are still great but it's getting tired to see all that "squat or you are a faggot" mentality here.
On January 26 2012 07:34 Orpheos wrote: Im i the only one who feels squatting wasnt that hard to learn? Im not really scared of them at all. deadlifts on the other hand >_< scare my lower back.
yeah squats arent that hard imo. but yeah, risk of injury is always there of course. its just kind of a stupid arguments not to do squats and go play basketball instead imo but lets move on
Haven't been able to visit gym for last 4 weeks because of my back injury from squats. Obviously squats are still great but it's getting tired to see all that "squat or you are a faggot" mentality here.
I think this is a more accurate view of the general mentality:
As far as his alternatives - I agree they are in no way substitutes. But lets face it, many lifters are afraid of squats. They look hard, they ARE hard, they're talked about as being dangerous, the bar hurts the neck and shoulders at first, and you usually won't want to walk after you're done with them. It takes a special kind of person to get excited about such a challenge, and not everyone can step up to that without help. For those people - yes please, get some leg work in even if it is only leg press, leg curl and sports (although I would be inclined to say pistol squat with dumbbells, or single leg press along with GHR and back hyperextension or good morning gets the job done better.)
If you're not squatting and have a good reason, then that's cool. But for the goals many people set squatting is a phenomenal way to get there. Besides, did you see DAT ASS???
On January 26 2012 08:20 ludic123 wrote: eshlow, i get some small pains and stiffness in my lower back after deadlifts. I've asked several instructors to spot my technique, and they say it looks pretty okay. Could it just be that I'm not flexible enough? Should I stop deadlifting, or just continue and see if the "problems" disappear?
Are you keeping your abs really really tight?
Oh, do I need to do that? I guess I'll try and see if it helps. Thanks. And thanks, eshlow. I'll try out those exercises. Can i deadlift in the meantime, or should i postpone till' I've done the exercises a few times?
You don't just "need" to do that, it is like THE MOST important thing in deadlifting. The abs and the back work together to straighten your midsection, so the more tight your abs are, less stress on your back. (It's actually a bit more elaborated than that, but it's basically it. Tight abs = more IAP = less back muscle stress).
But more important, the more IAP (intra abdominal pressure), more weight you can lift in everything, and specially in the deadlift. It is just that simple. That's why you can deadlift more with a belt aswell.
Edit: I learnt to deadlift from another source than starting strength, and I never actually read that section of SS given how strong my deadlift is compared to my other lifts.
Got my ass kicked (actually, more my mid back, shoulders and cardio kicked) by lifeguarding class today. Could barely finish ~500m of swimming, going to start practicing that on sundays and try to pull it up to 750m-1km total before I have to take the waterfront laps test. Anyone have any advice for swimming? technique, programs, breathing advice, whatever?
Only strokes involved in lifeguarding are front crawl and breast stroke, so I don't need to worry about anything else.
On January 26 2012 13:01 phyre112 wrote: Got my ass kicked (actually, more my mid back, shoulders and cardio kicked) by lifeguarding class today. Could barely finish ~500m of swimming, going to start practicing that on sundays and try to pull it up to 750m-1km total before I have to take the waterfront laps test. Anyone have any advice for swimming? technique, programs, breathing advice, whatever?
Only strokes involved in lifeguarding are front crawl and breast stroke, so I don't need to worry about anything else.
Having been a lifeguard pre-surgery (never worked, but did get certified) the only way to get good advice is to have somebody who knows that they are doing tell you what you are doing wrong. Also, in terms of improving endurance generally best way to do that is just more laps...
Well, I'm about a month and a half in. Gained 5 pounds, gaining strength. For my height and weight, I think my squat is pretty damn good. Unfortunately 5 pounds were gained in last 2 weeks, nothing before. Hopefully my "1/2 GOMAD + no leftovers + cook eggs / rice / eat almond or chocolate / squeeze in peanutbutter diet thingy will be successful.. I'll take a picture in a couple more weeks for progress.
The most frustrating thing is my upper body lifts aren't moving, and my upper body isn't growing. It's all in legs >.>
Omg DimSum your legs are looking pretty jacked, keep up the good work!
Also any one have any experience using a TENS unit? my dad said he will lend me one if it will help. I remember using one for my hip when I use to go see a physical therapist through my football coach just wondering if it will have the same effects or if it even really does anything for you.
EPT
but lets move on![[image loading]](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-D-h4ftrNeRc/TxcsSIRRs9I/AAAAAAAA0tI/gUNQ7zAJWJU/s1600/wednesday+%252810%2529.jpg)
