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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 05 2012 01:47 GMT
#6401
Hey TL, after my leg have been healed up from a very preventable accident, I'm going to hit the road once again.

Simple dilemma I have been having these days. I have been increasing my diet by quite a lot. Breakfast = 300 Calorie, Lunch = 1K and Dinner = 1K. But despite all of that (I use to eat sub 2K Calories beforehand), my stomach still growls very frequently. So I'm debating whether or not to suppress the hunger and push it through. The problem is that I find myself to be pretty bust nowadays from working out everyday.

Suggestions I'm asking is should I or should not increase the diet and is it healthy to work out the same muscle group at consecutive days as I'm finding myself in strains.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
September 05 2012 02:38 GMT
#6402
why do you want to limit the calories you eat like that? i say go for it and eat more, especially if you say you're feeling really tired from working out. also, what's your diet? that matters a lot. make sure you're eating healthily (see the nutrition thread).

sounds like you're overworking your muscles too, since you're feeling the "strains." give them a day or two of rest before working your muscles again. also, what's your routine?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 02:47:50
September 05 2012 02:46 GMT
#6403
wrong thread sorry
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
emjaytron
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia544 Posts
September 05 2012 10:50 GMT
#6404
So I've gotten my strength up to more or less where I want to be (3x5 130kg squat, 1x5 145kg dead), and since its getting closer to my beach volleyball season I want to start switching over to more plyometric/explosive training.

Wondering what kind of maintenance volume I should do on my squat and deadlift while i start doing more stuff like cleans. Today just did 1x5x60kg, 1x5x100kg and 1x5x130kg squats before getting stuck into some cleans. Is single sets at my previous max load going to maintain the strength ok? Don't have the same problem with deadlift since I was only doing 1x5 to start with. Also I'm probably going to be cutting back a days gym each week due to playing/training
Grubby - SaSe - Oz - Hero
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
September 05 2012 12:34 GMT
#6405
5 mile run last night, maybe a couple light ones for the rest of the week. Tough Mudder in 4 days!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 05 2012 13:07 GMT
#6406
fuck leangains, fuck everything.

I'm done dieting and "seeing" no changes at all, gonna start eating +4 times a day, and keep on lifting hard. If my body doesn't change in the long run, then it will never will.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 05 2012 18:58 GMT
#6407
On September 05 2012 22:07 funkie wrote:
fuck leangains, fuck everything.

I'm done dieting and "seeing" no changes at all, gonna start eating +4 times a day, and keep on lifting hard. If my body doesn't change in the long run, then it will never will.

Were you bulking or cutting?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
September 05 2012 19:00 GMT
#6408
I was bored at work so I just uploaded the secret bulgarian dvd training on youtube. It's a video clips of the bulgarian team training for the 1988 olympics. Just pm me and I'll send you the link.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 05 2012 19:16 GMT
#6409
On September 04 2012 01:38 Cecil wrote:
Ran in the American Mud Race last week and made this video:


Good run, but personally I liked the vid without the music/speed ups better, it was more immersive =)
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Trizz
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1318 Posts
September 05 2012 19:50 GMT
#6410
Yessss, last week I was deadlifting 115kg x7, this week 120kg x10.
Guess it's a mental thing, bw at 75kg.
nope
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 05 2012 20:48 GMT
#6411
@the kid-eating man #5, a general daily diet consists of
Breakfast: Bagel + 1 Slice of Cheese + One scramble egg
Lunch: 1 Sandwich with chicken breast + margarine + one slice of cheese for entree, one apple, juice box, and granola bar.
Dinner: 1 Cup of Rice + 2 Serving of meat + 2 Serving of vegetables.

Then my usual workout routine is somewhat restricted as my gym have closed down for constructions. So I had to make the best with what I have @ routine. Which actually isn't that bad because one, I can logistically keep my psyche and not get distracted going to gym.

Secondly, hey I can spent those extra 30 bucks on something different.

Finally, I really have everything I need so far in this journey that I'm voyaging through. Perhaps that it will soon come the day for a full upgrade but as of now, I have found the 3 main keys for upper body strength of the abdominal area, arms, and of course chest. So what I have with me as of now is a dunbell (sp?) of 35 Pounds that I use work on my tricep, and bicep area. I perform about 30 Reps and 4 sets of them daily, or so have I tried. For my pecs, the traditional pushup exercise have pretty done its job, I can do more or less 80 of them in one sitting with good form. Then lastly my abs are being honed by crunches, V lift up

Explanation:

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And another exercise in which I attempt to lift my knees up vertically to hit the opposite elbows w/o bending my backs and this creates much tension once the reps reaches into post 100.

This whole routine takes about 35 minutes to complete and have got me great result in the pre-gym era. The thing was that I was eating like a pig back then! No, not healthy at all. Chocolate bars, McDonalds, French Fries, Ice Cream and all that jazz would not be missed in my daily diet. Later, I started to take this serious. I just know that underneath those layers of fat, there lies a great surprise.

And oh boy after 4 months, did it show. Only atrocity was I went really overboard with the diet program, I ate 1.5K Calorie a day. And even though my fat percentage was at a fairly low (lower than 8%), it was cutting into my muscular cells and to the point I wasn't able to keep up with the work out schedule.

So yada yada yada, the time has came again for me to take the steering wheel and wrestle my way back. And with my stomach being hungry after only 1 week of work, I find that pace to be pretty rapid that I didn't expect myself to have such cravings.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 21:22:54
September 05 2012 21:22 GMT
#6412
Xiphos,

what are your goals? do you want to lose more fat? (i dont think so because you said you're lower than 8%, which is pretty crazy). or do you want to gain muscle and increase your weight? if so, then you gotta add some more protein in your diet. even your body is telling you that it needs more food. you gotta eat more calories than you burn. you could add some whole milk, nuts, seeds, and more eggs into your diet.

or if your goal is to be able to maintain your current workout without feeling so hungry and without feeling so sore after the workouts, then i'd give you the same advice as above: eat more. there's really no other way to solve the problem.

on your routine:
may i suggest adding a couple exercises? pushups are great and you can do a ton of them. if you want to gain more strength rather than endurance, you can try clapping pushups or weighted pushups. your routine also lacks exercises that work your core, back, and legs. you could do dumbbell rows instead of bicep curls (works your back and your arms). you can do deadlifts, squats, and pull-ups too.

edit - as for your soreness, are you working out consecutive days without a day to rest in between? that might be why.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 02:22:27
September 05 2012 22:26 GMT
#6413
^YES totally I do believe that the root of the problem for that soreness is simply because of the lack of rest on my part. Evidence to back up that is that after a day of refreshing myself, my muscles have recovered.

And yes I do very much appreciate your input on the dietary part. I will try adding protein in it because of your opinion. I just didn't want to gain.

Edit: Oh man did my routine again with a twist by kid muncher and the result was fantastic. Now off to shower.

Feels so good to be alive!

Edit2: Fuck shower took off all the flex away. But that's okay! I'm going to work out even harder tomorrow and increase my protein consumption. Man why did I go for a one year hiatus. I guess getting back the rookie mindset is building up my ego.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 06 2012 04:16 GMT
#6414
SS is KILLING me. Soooo sore.

At this point I"m just trying to eat everything I see. Have been at 3k calories plus for last 3 days. No milk sucks though (prevents half gomad or equivalent)
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
September 06 2012 10:12 GMT
#6415
On September 06 2012 13:16 Froadac wrote:
SS is KILLING me. Soooo sore.

At this point I"m just trying to eat everything I see. Have been at 3k calories plus for last 3 days. No milk sucks though (prevents half gomad or equivalent)

It's ok, you're a boss. Don't need no milk.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 12:59:53
September 06 2012 12:58 GMT
#6416
On September 06 2012 03:58 Osmoses wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 22:07 funkie wrote:
fuck leangains, fuck everything.

I'm done dieting and "seeing" no changes at all, gonna start eating +4 times a day, and keep on lifting hard. If my body doesn't change in the long run, then it will never will.

Were you bulking or cutting?


cutting.

But I think after all I was doing it wrong. I'm doing normal diet style now, eating 4-5 times a day, and eating shitloads of protein.

NOM NOM NOM

gotta buy like 24 cans of tuna :D.


On September 06 2012 19:12 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 13:16 Froadac wrote:
SS is KILLING me. Soooo sore.

At this point I"m just trying to eat everything I see. Have been at 3k calories plus for last 3 days. No milk sucks though (prevents half gomad or equivalent)

It's ok, you're a boss. Don't need no milk.



but MIlk is awesome. EMBRACE THE GOMAD BRO. And yes, Bulking is such a fun time, because you do not give a crap about what you're eating, you just do.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
September 06 2012 13:37 GMT
#6417
On September 05 2012 22:07 funkie wrote:
fuck leangains, fuck everything.

I'm done dieting and "seeing" no changes at all, gonna start eating +4 times a day, and keep on lifting hard. If my body doesn't change in the long run, then it will never will.


Can you post what you were doing in terms of workout and diet? If you are dieting and your bodyweight isn't decreasing then you most likely aren't making progress.
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
September 06 2012 14:30 GMT
#6418
On September 06 2012 22:37 Sinep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 22:07 funkie wrote:
fuck leangains, fuck everything.

I'm done dieting and "seeing" no changes at all, gonna start eating +4 times a day, and keep on lifting hard. If my body doesn't change in the long run, then it will never will.


Can you post what you were doing in terms of workout and diet? If you are dieting and your bodyweight isn't decreasing then you most likely aren't making progress.


http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-ltdfle.html
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/of-whooshes-and-squishy-fat.html

Of course, he might just have been eating too many calories.
Hanakurena
Profile Joined August 2012
105 Posts
September 06 2012 15:05 GMT
#6419
Oh god, not more bulking and cutting. Live healthy people. And cardio and diet first, strength training second.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
September 06 2012 15:09 GMT
#6420
There is nothing unhealthy about bulking or cutting...
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
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