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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
July 19 2012 19:28 GMT
#5481
On July 20 2012 04:25 extr3me wrote:
Thanks everyone who responded to my post

And listen up people! I also did break the record in backsquat, now I have 230kg 1rm

This guy just doesn't stop. Congrats!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 19 2012 19:38 GMT
#5482
On July 20 2012 04:28 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 04:25 extr3me wrote:
Thanks everyone who responded to my post

And listen up people! I also did break the record in backsquat, now I have 230kg 1rm

This guy just doesn't stop. Congrats!


Video or gtfo.

That's insane really, congratulations!

Happy birthday to NeedsMoarCellTECH Yo! Keep on lifting and being awesome You're one of the oldies :D
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
July 19 2012 19:58 GMT
#5483
On July 20 2012 03:04 FFGenerations wrote:
i see some people benching from the floor, lying flat on the floor under a cage. idk how that works. i think they just dont like asking people for help. its seldom perfect, and you have the occasional jackass who gets pissy because you told him not to do something, god forbid, but it always beats unracking by yourself imo


That's a floor press. Apparently it was common many decades ago before the bench caught on, but I've never seen anyone actually doing them.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
July 19 2012 20:44 GMT
#5484
On July 19 2012 23:17 Deadeight wrote:
Well, I'm hitting the old downside of weightlifting again. Finding clothes that fit.

Unfortunately fashion at the moment still seems to dictate that shops sell pretty skinny trousers. I need some clothes, and all the autumn stuff is just coming out and it all either doesn't fit my legs properly or it just makes me look really fat.

A friend from back home in Buckinghamshire (rowing country) told me about a shop that aimed at rowers and most of the stuff fits bigger legs. It's probably what I'm going to have to do. Looks like it's another year of wearing chinos then.

Seems like the only other options are shorts, or trackies (no).

Surely you can just get some straight or even baggy jeans? I just put on a pair of straight-leg jeans (which I used to wear baggy) and they fit me quite well now.

On July 19 2012 23:39 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Daigomi, are you on 5/3/1 atm? I'm going for 165kgx5 on deadlifts next tuesday (birthday tomorrow yay). If I make 165x5 I wouldn't mind going for 180 the cycle after, which'd be in 5 weeks.

@Deadeight: Shorts are awesome, nothing else shows off your quads properly.


Nah, I'm still doing a modified SS. So far it's worked for me and I keep making gains, so I've had no reason to change it yet.
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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
July 19 2012 23:23 GMT
#5485
On July 20 2012 03:44 Osmoses wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 03:05 YoucriedWolf wrote:
http://www.schwarzenegger.com/fitness/post/do-it-because-it-works-why-everything-old-is-new-again

Thought provoking read. If you got the time; gentlemen.

Caveman logic. "We've worshipped the mammoth-god for a long time and no disasters have befallen us. Obviously it's working". Correlation does not imply causation, page one of common sense.

I have no problem with experience, if you've had fifty clients do the same thing with the same results I call that a significant data point. But it's not "evidence".


It's more just saying that even if there is not necessarily much research proving a certain assertion in bodybuilding it does not automatically make it wrong or broscience, which is a good point. Some things have not been proven but will be proven if they are researched properly, and research is definitely not the be all and end all: because the inferences the researchers have made from the data may be incorrect, the true operating factors may have been overlooked because they were too complex or hard to work out or simply had not been considered (making it impossible to make a proper control group).
extr3me
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway145 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 23:30:53
July 19 2012 23:30 GMT
#5486
I am happy for my results, only been working out at the gym for about 1.3 or 4 months and I do have these records:

squat: 230kg
deadlift: 240kg
overheadpress: 100kg
benchpress: 130kg

All clean, no roids/juice.
Stay strong! next mission are to beat my old 240kg deadlift to 250kg. Soon!
Stay strong, forever strong!
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
July 19 2012 23:50 GMT
#5487
I have a question about how much I should be eating.

Right now I am 213.5, I'm 5'10" - I'm a mix between fat and muscle, I put both on easily and I would say I'm strong but I definitely have a lot of fat as well. I chart everything I eat on livestrong(.)com/myplate and I've averaged 1578 for the last week, and I'm probably about 1600 every day for most of July, sometimes a bit higher, sometimes a bit lower.

As for exercise, right now I am only doing exercises at home, I alternate between bodyweight exercises like crunches, pullups, bicycles, pushups; and dumbbell weight exercises like weighted lunges, curls, rows, kickbacks, flies, reverse flies, and various shoulder exercises. I'm looking at finding a gym and starting an actual strength program, but for now this is what I do and I figure it's better than nothing.

I've been doing some research online and I've read that you need to keep your calorie intake around a certain point because too low and your body will think you're starving and burn muscle, and if you keep it too high you won't be burning fat very efficiently. Some other relevant information might be that I'm not starving myself, I don't feel hungry during the day, I also eat very healthily now.

So - am I consuming too few calories? Should I actually eat more calories in order to lose fat quicker? I start at 222.5 but I've plateaued at 213-214 for the past week, it doesn't seem to want to move from there. Thanks!
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
July 19 2012 23:58 GMT
#5488
On July 20 2012 08:50 Salv wrote:
I have a question about how much I should be eating.

Right now I am 213.5, I'm 5'10" - I'm a mix between fat and muscle, I put both on easily and I would say I'm strong but I definitely have a lot of fat as well. I chart everything I eat on livestrong(.)com/myplate and I've averaged 1578 for the last week, and I'm probably about 1600 every day for most of July, sometimes a bit higher, sometimes a bit lower.

As for exercise, right now I am only doing exercises at home, I alternate between bodyweight exercises like crunches, pullups, bicycles, pushups; and dumbbell weight exercises like weighted lunges, curls, rows, kickbacks, flies, reverse flies, and various shoulder exercises. I'm looking at finding a gym and starting an actual strength program, but for now this is what I do and I figure it's better than nothing.

I've been doing some research online and I've read that you need to keep your calorie intake around a certain point because too low and your body will think you're starving and burn muscle, and if you keep it too high you won't be burning fat very efficiently. Some other relevant information might be that I'm not starving myself, I don't feel hungry during the day, I also eat very healthily now.

So - am I consuming too few calories? Should I actually eat more calories in order to lose fat quicker? I start at 222.5 but I've plateaued at 213-214 for the past week, it doesn't seem to want to move from there. Thanks!


As you lose weight you need to recalculate how many calories you burn in a day (total daily energy expenditure) and then adjust from there, standard deficit of 500 will have you drop ~1 pound of fat per week.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
July 19 2012 23:59 GMT
#5489
@Salv As a very rough guide put your numbers in HERE here. Should at least give you a rough estimate.
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 00:03:36
July 20 2012 00:01 GMT
#5490
On July 20 2012 08:58 GuiltyJerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 08:50 Salv wrote:
I have a question about how much I should be eating.

Right now I am 213.5, I'm 5'10" - I'm a mix between fat and muscle, I put both on easily and I would say I'm strong but I definitely have a lot of fat as well. I chart everything I eat on livestrong(.)com/myplate and I've averaged 1578 for the last week, and I'm probably about 1600 every day for most of July, sometimes a bit higher, sometimes a bit lower.

As for exercise, right now I am only doing exercises at home, I alternate between bodyweight exercises like crunches, pullups, bicycles, pushups; and dumbbell weight exercises like weighted lunges, curls, rows, kickbacks, flies, reverse flies, and various shoulder exercises. I'm looking at finding a gym and starting an actual strength program, but for now this is what I do and I figure it's better than nothing.

I've been doing some research online and I've read that you need to keep your calorie intake around a certain point because too low and your body will think you're starving and burn muscle, and if you keep it too high you won't be burning fat very efficiently. Some other relevant information might be that I'm not starving myself, I don't feel hungry during the day, I also eat very healthily now.

So - am I consuming too few calories? Should I actually eat more calories in order to lose fat quicker? I start at 222.5 but I've plateaued at 213-214 for the past week, it doesn't seem to want to move from there. Thanks!


As you lose weight you need to recalculate how many calories you burn in a day (total daily energy expenditure) and then adjust from there, standard deficit of 500 will have you drop ~1 pound of fat per week.


I did the calculator from here: http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html and it said 2554. Another I did said 2552 - so I should be eating around 2000 calories instead of 1600? Obviously there's a point where less isn't better, so is 500 the best number, or can I do more if I am comfortable with it?


On July 20 2012 08:59 Deadeight wrote:
@Salv As a very rough guide put your numbers in HERE here. Should at least give you a rough estimate.


Didn't see this post, sorry. That link gives 2337 - so that would be about 1800 if I did ~500 less. What I want to know is if 500 is like the maximum I should have as a deficit, or just a general guideline.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 20 2012 00:55 GMT
#5491
we need a weightlifting section in the London games subsection.

I'll be watchign 77kg extra closely.
☺
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
July 20 2012 00:57 GMT
#5492
Eh shit. Reacted to vancomycin, white count went through floor. No more PT til next week. Minor stuff with neck, but no restrictions in a bit under two months.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 02:21:54
July 20 2012 02:19 GMT
#5493
On July 20 2012 09:01 Salv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 08:58 GuiltyJerk wrote:
On July 20 2012 08:50 Salv wrote:
I have a question about how much I should be eating.

Right now I am 213.5, I'm 5'10" - I'm a mix between fat and muscle, I put both on easily and I would say I'm strong but I definitely have a lot of fat as well. I chart everything I eat on livestrong(.)com/myplate and I've averaged 1578 for the last week, and I'm probably about 1600 every day for most of July, sometimes a bit higher, sometimes a bit lower.

As for exercise, right now I am only doing exercises at home, I alternate between bodyweight exercises like crunches, pullups, bicycles, pushups; and dumbbell weight exercises like weighted lunges, curls, rows, kickbacks, flies, reverse flies, and various shoulder exercises. I'm looking at finding a gym and starting an actual strength program, but for now this is what I do and I figure it's better than nothing.

I've been doing some research online and I've read that you need to keep your calorie intake around a certain point because too low and your body will think you're starving and burn muscle, and if you keep it too high you won't be burning fat very efficiently. Some other relevant information might be that I'm not starving myself, I don't feel hungry during the day, I also eat very healthily now.

So - am I consuming too few calories? Should I actually eat more calories in order to lose fat quicker? I start at 222.5 but I've plateaued at 213-214 for the past week, it doesn't seem to want to move from there. Thanks!


As you lose weight you need to recalculate how many calories you burn in a day (total daily energy expenditure) and then adjust from there, standard deficit of 500 will have you drop ~1 pound of fat per week.


I did the calculator from here: http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html and it said 2554. Another I did said 2552 - so I should be eating around 2000 calories instead of 1600? Obviously there's a point where less isn't better, so is 500 the best number, or can I do more if I am comfortable with it?


Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 08:59 Deadeight wrote:
@Salv As a very rough guide put your numbers in HERE here. Should at least give you a rough estimate.


Didn't see this post, sorry. That link gives 2337 - so that would be about 1800 if I did ~500 less. What I want to know is if 500 is like the maximum I should have as a deficit, or just a general guideline.


As you drop to a bigger and bigger deficit, you will lose weight faster, but a larger proportion of that weight will be muscle loss. Just keep that in mind, and go with what makes sense and feels right for your body once you start trying it. Also, I'd personally trust the calculator at 1percentedge over the others, as it's been the most accurate for me, and for the few of my friends who have asked about calorie counting.



Definitely going to have to see a professional about my hip. Chiro? PT? Someone else? I live about a half mile from two hospitals and a medical school - so there's no shortage of any healthcare professionals in the area, and while a chiro wouldn't practice at any of those, I know of three or four around me. My hip has been getting better slowly, and hasn't bothered me in the last week (since those front squats that really felt like they were "mobilizing" it). I managed to pull a 235 deadlift on Tuesday (~130 pounds short of 5rm) so I figured I would try back squats again. Bad Idea.

My belt came in in the mail, but I tried the first set without it anyway. Finished it fine. Second set I failed, after 3 reps. Deloaded a bit, and did a third set, but I was BEAT when I finished. One of my legs is working like hell, and the leg under the bad hip is not doing a whole lot. It's a weird feeling. Stood up a bit later to do the fourth set, and felt some tightness and general discomfort in the whole lower back, so I switched to front squats and put the belt on, because they helped so much last time. Felt great during the reps, but once I racked the bar and took the belt off, I had some awful shooting pains from my lower back, off to the side of the spine, deep in the muscles, shooting down to the hip, crossing forward, and then in the hip abductors, the hip flexors, the quad, and shooting right down to my knee, ending just before the kneecap, in the quadricep.

Can't even pick up a dumbbell to do chest presses, can't hold my legs still to do chinups or dips, without shooting pains. I think I dun goofed, guys. No matter how much I want my squat to not be pathetic (and I REALLY wanted that 400 lb deadlift by the end of august =() working through it has only made things worse. I'll see some sort of professional this week, and hopefully I'll be back and ready to run by next weekend to play rugby against decaf.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 20 2012 02:21 GMT
#5494
TOdays workout (it's good!)

60kg, 90kg, 100kg, 110kg, 120kg, 130kg, 140kg, 150kg, 165kg (FUCKING PR YES!!!!!!)
125kg, 130kg, 135kg, 140kg, 145kg x 3
100kg x 2 x 5

I am so fucking happy right now, just 15kg and I break my (recently new set) year goal. Again. :D

Bench press: 3 x 5 x 80kg

then did a bunch of random shit for chest with a friend, haha.

So happy right now, can't even stay still :3.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
July 20 2012 02:32 GMT
#5495
no better feeling than getting a pr, grats man
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 03:56:50
July 20 2012 03:39 GMT
#5496
Nothing makes you feel like more of a badass than jerking 140kg and new guy looks over...then you bring it down to rack on your shoulders and they're like O.O

Yesterday(light):
Good morning 3x6
Squats -15
Military press- 15

High hang snatch- 80 3x3 85 2x3
High hang clean- 100 5x2

5x10 box jump (24in) + med ball slam (16 lb)

Todays workout:

-Warm up
Good morning-20kg 3x6
Front Squats-20kg 3x6
Push Press 20kg 3x5

- Front squat + jerk- 50 3+3, 60 3+3, 80 3+2, 90 3+2,
105 2 sets of 2+2, 115 2+2, 125 2+1, 130 2+1,
135 2 sets 2 +1

- Clean Pulls- 3x60 100 115 125 140

-Snatch- 50 2 sets of 3, 60 3, 70, 3, 80 3, 90 3, 100 2,
105 3 sets of 2

Good Morning- 50 3, 60 3, 70 3, 80 3, 90 3setsof3

Pull ups 3x10
Abs- 4x25
tricep ext w the 20kg bar 3x10

Played an hour of touch rugby and an hour of pick up b-ball after that. afk golf ball rolling my quads so my knees don't fall apart.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 20 2012 05:56 GMT
#5497
Love it when people say "Wear a belt"

I reply, "Grow a pair" :D
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
July 20 2012 07:11 GMT
#5498
On July 20 2012 03:44 Osmoses wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 03:05 YoucriedWolf wrote:
http://www.schwarzenegger.com/fitness/post/do-it-because-it-works-why-everything-old-is-new-again

Thought provoking read. If you got the time; gentlemen.

Caveman logic. "We've worshipped the mammoth-god for a long time and no disasters have befallen us. Obviously it's working". Correlation does not imply causation, page one of common sense.

I have no problem with experience, if you've had fifty clients do the same thing with the same results I call that a significant data point. But it's not "evidence".


"We've worshipped the mammoth-god for the entire duration of our life and has thusly managed to wipe out all the opposing tribes and found tons of blueberries behind every bush." if think would be more to the point
Assuming of course that the worship was of some substansial seemingly related context.

"Correlation does not imply causation, page one of common sense." Which the author ofc does not argue at all, he stresses the fact that he thinks the transition from broscience to science is a good one.

Its interesting because it is humbling to remember that there is in fact a lot when it comes to training and nutrition that we do not know and its interesting because it paints a tangible tangible grasp on the crossroads between getting science and getting results (which is not always in conflict, this is not what im saying).
Placebo would be another interesting phenomenon that is not backed up by science at a first glance but definitly produces results.
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
July 20 2012 07:23 GMT
#5499
I just wanted to say thank you all. I'm going to keep this short, as my gf is cooking me breakfast. HUGE shoutout to eschlow, decaf and sJarl for always trying to help newbies or people with questions. HUGE shoutout to all the others (funkie, catch, phyre, malinor) for keeping me motivated for a whole year. It's been a great one.

I've gone from an 1400 elo league of legends player with bad skin and no girlfriend, too weak to deadlift 40kg (yes I failed it first time) and weighing 71kg at 1.96, to a 1700 elo league of legends player with flawless skin, the girlfriend of my dreams, strong enough to deadlift 160kgx5 and be confident that I'll pull 165 next time at 86.3kg with a six-pack.

My lay-out sucks but basically I just want to thank you all for being awesome and helping me become awesome.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Luxae
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel232 Posts
July 20 2012 08:03 GMT
#5500
On July 20 2012 14:56 funkie wrote:
Love it when people say "Wear a belt"

I reply, "Grow a pair" :D


This is just me being curious, but why are you against using belts? I'm assuming it's not really the macho "using a belt would make me less manly" sentiments.
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