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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
July 14 2012 03:14 GMT
#5301
Cross fit is a giant fitness based pyramid scheme lol.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4727 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 06:17:06
July 14 2012 06:14 GMT
#5302
Listening to the commentators is one of the most obnoxious things to experience:

C1: "Man, these athletes are so fit"
C2: "Oh yes, they really are, they are real specimen of mankind"
C1: "They are the fittest athletes in the world"
C2: "Indeed. And did you see those abs?"
C1: "Yes, I did see those abs, they are amazing. These athletes are so fit"
C2: "Yes, they are the fittest athletes in the world. When you walk around here, you see a lot of abs and a lot of fitness"
C1: "Yes, they are huge and fit and ripped, and everone is so happy, and carries their abs around. They truly are the fittest athletes in the world. Unbelievable what weights they are moving"
C2: "Yes, when the camera zooms in, you can see their muslces contract. Do you see those abs working that weight?"
C1: "Yes, and it is so hard, so you need amazing abs, and so much fitness. And here is our Reebok preacher, he is the fittest preacher in the world" (Ok, I made this one up).

Sadly I missed the corporate preacher thing. I would have loved to see that.

"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
July 14 2012 06:36 GMT
#5303
lolol crosfit
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4727 Posts
July 14 2012 06:48 GMT
#5304
To be fair, the competitors look very fit
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
July 14 2012 07:29 GMT
#5305
There's only one crossfit gym here in my state (i think it's just starting to become a thing in mexico). They don't even have barbells, just kettlebellsssss.

Anyway, did this bad boy today, PR for me on the pause squat. Also got 140kg DL for 4 reps followed by 125 for 5 reps. Still cutting and keeping strength kind of.

http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
Nazarene
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Denmark996 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 08:00:30
July 14 2012 07:59 GMT
#5306
On July 14 2012 15:14 Malinor wrote:
Listening to the commentators is one of the most obnoxious things to experience:

C1: "Man, these athletes are so fit"
C2: "Oh yes, they really are, they are real specimen of mankind"
C1: "They are the fittest athletes in the world"
C2: "Indeed. And did you see those abs?"
C1: "Yes, I did see those abs, they are amazing. These athletes are so fit"
C2: "Yes, they are the fittest athletes in the world. When you walk around here, you see a lot of abs and a lot of fitness"
C1: "Yes, they are huge and fit and ripped, and everone is so happy, and carries their abs around. They truly are the fittest athletes in the world. Unbelievable what weights they are moving"
C2: "Yes, when the camera zooms in, you can see their muslces contract. Do you see those abs working that weight?"
C1: "Yes, and it is so hard, so you need amazing abs, and so much fitness. And here is our Reebok preacher, he is the fittest preacher in the world" (Ok, I made this one up).

Sadly I missed the corporate preacher thing. I would have loved to see that.


LOL! The commentary sucks yes :-D
And some of the events are stupid, but the best of these guys and women have very, very impressive strength, cardio and gymnastics skills.
Nazarene
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Denmark996 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 08:00:13
July 14 2012 07:59 GMT
#5307
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
July 14 2012 08:08 GMT
#5308
Yeah it's not too bad to watch, some the exercises look like fun. I watched the medicine ball/hand stand push up one and it looked pretty brutal.

I listen to a crossfit podcast just because it's really funny (I've never done or plan to do crossfit) and they were going to do an episode at the games but the host got thrown out of the game because he criticised crossfit on his blog (they also shut his facebook page and blog down). Basically the crossfit organisation is a huge joke and seems to be getting worse as they become more successful. I wouldn't be surprised if some competitors to crossfit appeared and it imploded on itself.
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 10:06:56
July 14 2012 10:01 GMT
#5309
Today I did my first unassisted chinup in 6 years. I did 3. Then I came back and did another 4. One of my goals met, oh and I managed to get 45kg Press :D
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
July 14 2012 10:34 GMT
#5310
Way to go mcmartini, I definitely know the feeling with the chin ups

Has anyone here ever tried bulking with leangains? I obviously had great success cutting with it, but it doesn't exactly seem ideal for strength gain, and not just because its hard to fit alot of calories in that 8 hour window. I'm no expert obviously, but in terms of muscle gain doesn't it seem like a bad thing to be on a caloric deficit with no carbs on the days in between your lifts?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
July 14 2012 11:09 GMT
#5311
On July 14 2012 19:34 Osmoses wrote:
Way to go mcmartini, I definitely know the feeling with the chin ups

Has anyone here ever tried bulking with leangains? I obviously had great success cutting with it, but it doesn't exactly seem ideal for strength gain, and not just because its hard to fit alot of calories in that 8 hour window. I'm no expert obviously, but in terms of muscle gain doesn't it seem like a bad thing to be on a caloric deficit with no carbs on the days in between your lifts?


Was it you who uploaded a video of you doing chin ups or pull ups earlier this year? If it was that was my motivation to get unassisted chinup, dips and pullups! 2 down, just pull ups to go!
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
July 14 2012 11:26 GMT
#5312
My issue with crossfit is that they're not actually really good at anything.

They can pretty well but they're not at all impressive compared to people who are really good at running. Not even just marathon runners or 100 milers and stuff, but like some of the SAS stories I've heard are insane, I'm sure they're the same for some of the US special military forces stuff.

They aren't week but watching a guy put 90kg above his head a bunch of times just isn't very impressive. WSM has the most enormous guys walk out and then manhandle the biggest log you've ever seen above their head, then they move on to an even bigger log, etc. The numbers powerlifters move boggles the mind.

They have some gymnastic skills but if you've ever seen a proper gymnast some of the stuff they can do, particularly in groups, blows the mind. So it just doesn't impress me there.


Overall they're really well rounded, and I think it's actually a really sensible way to train because you'll be well above average in every way, and having a lot of strength, fitness, control etc would be good for sports. Would also make it interesting by doing different things all the time. It doesn't impress me though.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 11:29:48
July 14 2012 11:28 GMT
#5313
On July 14 2012 20:09 mcmartini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 19:34 Osmoses wrote:
Way to go mcmartini, I definitely know the feeling with the chin ups

Has anyone here ever tried bulking with leangains? I obviously had great success cutting with it, but it doesn't exactly seem ideal for strength gain, and not just because its hard to fit alot of calories in that 8 hour window. I'm no expert obviously, but in terms of muscle gain doesn't it seem like a bad thing to be on a caloric deficit with no carbs on the days in between your lifts?


Was it you who uploaded a video of you doing chin ups or pull ups earlier this year? If it was that was my motivation to get unassisted chinup, dips and pullups! 2 down, just pull ups to go!



I know Malinor did, that motivated me to start doing chin-ups properly. He said something about mastering his own bodyweight or something similar. They, along with pull-ups, have been giving me the best upper back gains I've gotten from any exercise.
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
July 14 2012 11:32 GMT
#5314
On July 14 2012 20:28 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 20:09 mcmartini wrote:
On July 14 2012 19:34 Osmoses wrote:
Way to go mcmartini, I definitely know the feeling with the chin ups

Has anyone here ever tried bulking with leangains? I obviously had great success cutting with it, but it doesn't exactly seem ideal for strength gain, and not just because its hard to fit alot of calories in that 8 hour window. I'm no expert obviously, but in terms of muscle gain doesn't it seem like a bad thing to be on a caloric deficit with no carbs on the days in between your lifts?


Was it you who uploaded a video of you doing chin ups or pull ups earlier this year? If it was that was my motivation to get unassisted chinup, dips and pullups! 2 down, just pull ups to go!



I know Malinor did, that motivated me to start doing chin-ups properly. He said something about mastering his own bodyweight or something similar. They, along with pull-ups, have been giving me the best upper back gains I've gotten from any exercise.

It may have been Malinor then But yeah got me super motivated.
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
July 14 2012 11:42 GMT
#5315
Yeah mastering bodyweight exercises is really satisfying, it just seems impossible when you can't do it so it feels like a great achievement when you are able to do one. I got my first proper wall handstand pushup today, nose to the ground. Been doing them for a while but just partial rom. Now I just have to move onto proper ones on my paralettes.

Deadeight I see what you're saying about crossfit but, well, that's the whole point of crossfit. I think history has proven you can make sports as silly and arbitrary as you like anyway and it's no barrier to success. I think it could be a problem professionally because people will always argue the workout favoured lighter/shorter/stronger/faster or whatever athlete. That in itself wouldn't be a problem though if they didn't have the retarded 'fittest man on earth' marketing.

Here's a funny blog I found, duno how true it is but it paints a pretty grim picture of Crossfit HQs practises. http://robbwolf.com/2009/11/24/the-black-box-summit-or-how-i-got-fired-from-the-crossfit-nutrition-certification/
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4727 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 12:54:09
July 14 2012 12:47 GMT
#5316
On July 14 2012 20:32 mcmartini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 20:28 Deadeight wrote:
On July 14 2012 20:09 mcmartini wrote:
On July 14 2012 19:34 Osmoses wrote:
Way to go mcmartini, I definitely know the feeling with the chin ups

Has anyone here ever tried bulking with leangains? I obviously had great success cutting with it, but it doesn't exactly seem ideal for strength gain, and not just because its hard to fit alot of calories in that 8 hour window. I'm no expert obviously, but in terms of muscle gain doesn't it seem like a bad thing to be on a caloric deficit with no carbs on the days in between your lifts?


Was it you who uploaded a video of you doing chin ups or pull ups earlier this year? If it was that was my motivation to get unassisted chinup, dips and pullups! 2 down, just pull ups to go!



I know Malinor did, that motivated me to start doing chin-ups properly. He said something about mastering his own bodyweight or something similar. They, along with pull-ups, have been giving me the best upper back gains I've gotten from any exercise.

It may have been Malinor then But yeah got me super motivated.


Yes, that was me:
+ Show Spoiler +


He said something about mastering his own bodyweight or something similar


And honestly, mastering my own bodyweight is exactly what it is and honestly, nothing I have done this year felt better. I am up to 6 chin-ups now.

And really happy that I was able to inspire someone. Gratz

And my biggest beef with CrossFit is also the marketing, advertising and all the bullshit that surrounds it. For all intends and purposes, I love strength training, I love running and I am falling more and more for gymnastics. So I am basically a closet Crossfitter myself (just with emphazising strength above everything else), just that I don't pay 100€ a month to do it. I never understand the urge to give something I do a specific name. Of course they are just building a brand, but I won't be a part of that.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
extr3me
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway145 Posts
July 14 2012 13:33 GMT
#5317
Good job on ur first chin up Malinor
I remember when I took my first too it was so smoooth
Now I can do 3 chin ups almost 4 with 133kg bodyweight.
Stay strong, forever strong!
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
July 14 2012 14:27 GMT
#5318
On July 14 2012 20:42 AndyJay wrote:
Yeah mastering bodyweight exercises is really satisfying, it just seems impossible when you can't do it so it feels like a great achievement when you are able to do one. I got my first proper wall handstand pushup today, nose to the ground. Been doing them for a while but just partial rom. Now I just have to move onto proper ones on my paralettes.

Deadeight I see what you're saying about crossfit but, well, that's the whole point of crossfit. I think history has proven you can make sports as silly and arbitrary as you like anyway and it's no barrier to success. I think it could be a problem professionally because people will always argue the workout favoured lighter/shorter/stronger/faster or whatever athlete. That in itself wouldn't be a problem though if they didn't have the retarded 'fittest man on earth' marketing.

Here's a funny blog I found, duno how true it is but it paints a pretty grim picture of Crossfit HQs practises. http://robbwolf.com/2009/11/24/the-black-box-summit-or-how-i-got-fired-from-the-crossfit-nutrition-certification/



That pointed me the way of this: http://greyskullarticles.blogspot.co.uk/2009/10/recently-ive-received-lot-of-emails.html

Which was also pretty funny.

Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
July 14 2012 15:30 GMT
#5319
So...

Made a little blog, and documented my journey on PSMF. Go check it out, let me know what you think and, if you want, what I did well and what I need to improve :D

Thanks yall

http://sophisticatedlifter.wordpress.com/
Victory Loves Preparation
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
July 14 2012 16:19 GMT
#5320
On July 14 2012 23:27 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 20:42 AndyJay wrote:
Yeah mastering bodyweight exercises is really satisfying, it just seems impossible when you can't do it so it feels like a great achievement when you are able to do one. I got my first proper wall handstand pushup today, nose to the ground. Been doing them for a while but just partial rom. Now I just have to move onto proper ones on my paralettes.

Deadeight I see what you're saying about crossfit but, well, that's the whole point of crossfit. I think history has proven you can make sports as silly and arbitrary as you like anyway and it's no barrier to success. I think it could be a problem professionally because people will always argue the workout favoured lighter/shorter/stronger/faster or whatever athlete. That in itself wouldn't be a problem though if they didn't have the retarded 'fittest man on earth' marketing.

Here's a funny blog I found, duno how true it is but it paints a pretty grim picture of Crossfit HQs practises. http://robbwolf.com/2009/11/24/the-black-box-summit-or-how-i-got-fired-from-the-crossfit-nutrition-certification/



That pointed me the way of this: http://greyskullarticles.blogspot.co.uk/2009/10/recently-ive-received-lot-of-emails.html

Which was also pretty funny.



I love robb wolf, he's my Oprah.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
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