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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
May 21 2012 08:21 GMT
#4081
On May 21 2012 17:16 Zafrumi wrote:
there's no way that is 16% bodyfat? Imo you are still too skinny
I'm no expert on cutting so sadly I can't tell you why you don't lose as much weight anymore as you used. although I do have a suspicion: Your weight loss slowed down because there isn't much more to lose

anyway, gl with you and your girl! hope you guys live happily ever after


Thanks Zafrumi! Sorry for sounding so eating disorder up in here... I just feel like I have a spare tire around my waist and want to get rid of it.

It's good to be back lifting though.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
May 21 2012 08:55 GMT
#4082
Are you like 6'9"? You must get tons of stares in Japan.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
May 21 2012 09:24 GMT
#4083
On May 21 2012 17:55 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Are you like 6'9"? You must get tons of stares in Japan.

Afaik he was only like 6'3. In other news, first deadlift PR in months. AWWWWWWWW YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!

Super psyched for training again :D
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 11:30:06
May 21 2012 11:24 GMT
#4084
On May 21 2012 16:35 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


As you can see, I am by no means "too skinny." I'm likely along the lines of 15-16% bodyfat.




As the obese guy, I can only conclude that even perfectly fine looking people have such distorted body images, which is just scary as fuck.

As a long time colleague in this thread I will just say: No, you are not too skinny, but you are very very borderline. There is simply no weight you should lose anymore, you probably don't have visible abs because you have bad genetics or you are too weak. Furthermore, when this is 16% bodyfat, I am the prince of wales. The notion that you don't want to be embarassed coming beach season is completely alien. If I had your body, I would run around in bathing shorts all day for everyone to see. You look fantastic, minus the unfortunate chest-genetics/lack of muscle mass there. But losing weight won't fix these problems anyway.

You remind me of one guy (Caruso or so) who posted twice here, saying he is 1.73 at 58kg, eating 800-1200kcal a day and cannot lose any more weight, and he still felt he had a huge belly (he suggested light bones).

Please don't lose any more weight, before it actually becomes a problem. You are perfectly fine now.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 12:10:22
May 21 2012 12:08 GMT
#4085
On May 21 2012 16:35 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
...OK, while I appreciate the (brutal) honesty, the pictures I posted are on second thought pretty misleading. Here are some better ones that show where I'm really at right now:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


As you can see, I am by no means "too skinny." I'm likely along the lines of 15-16% bodyfat. Since I have a ribcage the side of a fucking keg and shit-tier chest genetics (fuck you Dad for giving me barrel chest), my torso looks pretty bad. I'll slam those pecs harder when I start bulking, but for now, I want to cut.

Why am I cutting right now? Well, for one, it's summer, and I'm going to take a trip to Okinawa in August, where I'll ask my girlfriend to marry me. I want this to be a time when I can take off my shirt without shame. For two, I'm not taking the bulk from 15% bodyfat route again. I've done that before and while I gained a lot of muscle and strength, I ended up around 23% bodyfat, got sick, and then lost everything. Hence my 4 month leave from lifting.

So yeah, if you want to tell me that I don't have enough muscle, I agree! If you want to tell me to bulk right now, I don't for the above reasons, although believe me--I'd love to just go monster mode. I will eventually be slamming down 4k calories/day, most likely on Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 3 month challenge, but for now it's time to get lean, get my insulin resistance high, and get in a prime position to make some real gains.

So anyway, as for my previous question... any takers?

Dude, yes, you are too skinny oO

You don't need to lose fat, you need to build muscle to fill out. If you don't want to straight bulk, at least go for a recomp, but that dip you got from your ribcage into your gut is not a natural look.

No offense, from the front you just look a bit too skinny but from the side with the shoulderblades sticking out and your gut caving in you look like a prisoner of war :/
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 13:12:06
May 21 2012 13:09 GMT
#4086
so I did something quite stupid today ^^

first set of squats: 135kgx5 easy peasy
second set: 122.5kgx6, still easy
third set was supposed to be 110kgx7
then my friends started egging me on, saying that 7 reps is ridiculous. one of them said he would pay me one evening of eating/drinking everything I want if I did a widowmaker (20 reps) with that weight... quite a tempting offer! and I was foolish enough to actually try it
after 16 reps, my head felt like it would explode any second. I had to rack the bar because I couldnt bear the pain anymore
had to cancel the rest of my workout because the headache just wouldnt go away and my head still hurts now, several hours later

so now I feel bad because I didnt make 20 reps AND because my head hurts like fuck...

on top of that, I should be studying for my exams next month but all I can think about is this one unavailable girl!

in short: FML!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 21 2012 13:27 GMT
#4087
Really demotivated with my lifts lately. Have been trying to gain in lifts while maintaining weight. I didn't want to go much over 160 cause I didn't want to get more fat % for the summer. Anyways since I stopped gaining weight I stopped gaining good strength gains. Either it's because I'm not eating enough or its a mental block. Any good articles on the mental aspect of lifting? Im 5'8 for reference. Might bulk up to 170 and see how it looks.

Was pissed after a workout and blamed on not gaining weight then went out for dinner with my girlfriends family and they looked in awe as I finished full 3 plates of chinese food at the buffet while most of them half finished one LOL.

After this next deload im switching out of stronglifts which I have been doing for 9 months into madcow. Hopefully this change will get me motivated again/will suit my stronger lifts. Gunna stick to the 3 day split as I don't have much time for anything else with this summer term courseload.

Just hoping I can still hit my goals before 2013 QQ. Struggling to get up to my previous "current" bests now. Gah.

Current:
275X5 Squat
315X5 Deadlift
125X5 OHP
185X5 Bench

Goals for 2013:
315 Squat
405 Deadlift
135 OHP
225 Bench
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 21 2012 13:55 GMT
#4088
On May 21 2012 16:35 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
...OK, while I appreciate the (brutal) honesty, the pictures I posted are on second thought pretty misleading. Here are some better ones that show where I'm really at right now:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


As you can see, I am by no means "too skinny." I'm likely along the lines of 15-16% bodyfat. Since I have a ribcage the side of a fucking keg and shit-tier chest genetics (fuck you Dad for giving me barrel chest), my torso looks pretty bad. I'll slam those pecs harder when I start bulking, but for now, I want to cut.

Why am I cutting right now? Well, for one, it's summer, and I'm going to take a trip to Okinawa in August, where I'll ask my girlfriend to marry me. I want this to be a time when I can take off my shirt without shame. For two, I'm not taking the bulk from 15% bodyfat route again. I've done that before and while I gained a lot of muscle and strength, I ended up around 23% bodyfat, got sick, and then lost everything. Hence my 4 month leave from lifting.

So yeah, if you want to tell me that I don't have enough muscle, I agree! If you want to tell me to bulk right now, I don't for the above reasons, although believe me--I'd love to just go monster mode. I will eventually be slamming down 4k calories/day, most likely on Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 3 month challenge, but for now it's time to get lean, get my insulin resistance high, and get in a prime position to make some real gains.

So anyway, as for my previous question... any takers?


I'm at 8.5% bodyfat, with less bones visible. 6'2", 150. I'm working to keep gaining, still painfully underweight, and look less like I'm going to fall over dead. If I can find a fucking cable for this camera, I'll post a pic.

Seriously, the only time my abdomen looked like that, I was literally almost dead from malnutrition. Eat some damn food.
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
May 21 2012 13:56 GMT
#4089
Sup I have a question. :D

I am interested in starting to lift. However, I am worried about injuring my joints. I can just slide things right out of socket (doctor said it's genetic as I have been able to do it all my life, all joints)-- hips, shoulders, ankles, elbows just pop out. Some joints this is painful and some not, but I try to avoid it happening regardless.

Will I be fine to try lifting? Will it hurt or help? Should I make any adjustments in light of this?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20076 Posts
May 21 2012 13:57 GMT
#4090
On May 21 2012 16:35 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
...OK, while I appreciate the (brutal) honesty, the pictures I posted are on second thought pretty misleading. Here are some better ones that show where I'm really at right now:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


As you can see, I am by no means "too skinny." I'm likely along the lines of 15-16% bodyfat. Since I have a ribcage the side of a fucking keg and shit-tier chest genetics (fuck you Dad for giving me barrel chest), my torso looks pretty bad. I'll slam those pecs harder when I start bulking, but for now, I want to cut.

Why am I cutting right now? Well, for one, it's summer, and I'm going to take a trip to Okinawa in August, where I'll ask my girlfriend to marry me. I want this to be a time when I can take off my shirt without shame. For two, I'm not taking the bulk from 15% bodyfat route again. I've done that before and while I gained a lot of muscle and strength, I ended up around 23% bodyfat, got sick, and then lost everything. Hence my 4 month leave from lifting.

So yeah, if you want to tell me that I don't have enough muscle, I agree! If you want to tell me to bulk right now, I don't for the above reasons, although believe me--I'd love to just go monster mode. I will eventually be slamming down 4k calories/day, most likely on Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 3 month challenge, but for now it's time to get lean, get my insulin resistance high, and get in a prime position to make some real gains.

So anyway, as for my previous question... any takers?

A) you're definitely below 16.
B) you're not going to look good in a tux OR be able to carry your bride if you don't put some muscle on. Just do a clean bulk if you're worried about getting 'fat'. From one bro with weird ribs to another, get more muscle.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 14:06:20
May 21 2012 14:00 GMT
#4091
@Malinor and the group

You know... I think you're right. I may not have that magazine cover six pack, but I shouldn't feel bad about my body. There is a lot of room for improvement, but that can be done through packing on muscle too. As long as I'm lifting hard I think I have nothing to be ashamed of in terms of body composition ever.

Sorry for being a bitch. Starting tomorrow I'll ramp up the calories gradually and work towards a body recomp. My nutrition goals have already been planned.

@Osmoses

For the last time, I have a barrel chest. My ribcage and gut have stuck out like that my entire life, even when I was fat. It sucks but it's something I gotta work with.



@Decaf

Thanks for the help snapping me out of this rut. I don't know what's come over me these past couple of months. Luckily I'm still pretty strong--I deadlifted 150x5 the other day, but I can be a lot stronger I feel.

Time to start eating again.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 14:41:54
May 21 2012 14:19 GMT
#4092
On May 21 2012 23:00 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
@Malinor and the group

You know... I think you're right. I may not have that magazine cover six pack, but I shouldn't feel bad about my body. There is a lot of room for improvement, but that can be done through packing on muscle too. As long as I'm lifting hard I think I have nothing to be ashamed of in terms of body composition ever.

Sorry for being a bitch. Starting tomorrow I'll ramp up the calories gradually and work towards a body recomp. My nutrition goals have already been planned.

@Osmoses

For the last time, I have a barrel chest. My ribcage and gut have stuck out like that my entire life, even when I was fat. It sucks but it's something I gotta work with.



@Decaf

Thanks for the help snapping me out of this rut. I don't know what's come over me these past couple of months. Luckily I'm still pretty strong--I deadlifted 150x5 the other day, but I can be a lot stronger I feel.

Time to start eating again.


I think I have the same thing as you, Barrel chest, it's so weird sometimes, but mine is less "pronounced"?.

Imma post pics soon and ask for advice here too :D

Go and bulk and put on some good fucking muscle man, it's OUR DUTY AS SQUATTERS.
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rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
May 21 2012 14:24 GMT
#4093
feeling bad about your body isn't healthy.
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TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 15:16:17
May 21 2012 15:08 GMT
#4094
Skinny dudes got this problem. I know cuz I was one. If you been skinny your whole life then you start eating and lifting you are going to start getting a stomach. I dont think my BF has changed much but now my stomach seems to stick out a lot more. I guess its obliques ??? Skinny dudes see that and freak out, omg my abs are gone!

I freaked out. My bottom abs have a fat roll. I told my wife and she would get so mad i was worrying about a tiny fat roll on my bottom abdominals. I was thinking my BF% was up around 18. So I started looking at pictures online of people with their BF%. You can find people that are like you. I realized my BF is way lower than i thought. its probably closer to 13-14. So now I dont worry about it.

5'10 - 164lbs

Look at this 10% skinny dude

http://www.leighpeele.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/10-percent-body-fat-male-pictures1.jpg

You pushing that. You want to be pushing the guy on the left. Gotta get a better base first. Keep lifting and get bigger!
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 21 2012 15:27 GMT
#4095
What's wrong with a barrel chest?

Big chest looks fairly aesthetically pleasing once you can put some solid muscle on it.
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kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
May 21 2012 15:49 GMT
#4096
On May 21 2012 16:35 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
...OK, while I appreciate the (brutal) honesty, the pictures I posted are on second thought pretty misleading. Here are some better ones that show where I'm really at right now:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


As you can see, I am by no means "too skinny." I'm likely along the lines of 15-16% bodyfat. Since I have a ribcage the side of a fucking keg and shit-tier chest genetics (fuck you Dad for giving me barrel chest), my torso looks pretty bad. I'll slam those pecs harder when I start bulking, but for now, I want to cut.

Why am I cutting right now? Well, for one, it's summer, and I'm going to take a trip to Okinawa in August, where I'll ask my girlfriend to marry me. I want this to be a time when I can take off my shirt without shame. For two, I'm not taking the bulk from 15% bodyfat route again. I've done that before and while I gained a lot of muscle and strength, I ended up around 23% bodyfat, got sick, and then lost everything. Hence my 4 month leave from lifting.

So yeah, if you want to tell me that I don't have enough muscle, I agree! If you want to tell me to bulk right now, I don't for the above reasons, although believe me--I'd love to just go monster mode. I will eventually be slamming down 4k calories/day, most likely on Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 3 month challenge, but for now it's time to get lean, get my insulin resistance high, and get in a prime position to make some real gains.

So anyway, as for my previous question... any takers?


fwiw your legs are quite nice (no homo)
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
May 21 2012 17:34 GMT
#4097
On May 21 2012 23:00 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
@Malinor and the group

You know... I think you're right. I may not have that magazine cover six pack, but I shouldn't feel bad about my body. There is a lot of room for improvement, but that can be done through packing on muscle too. As long as I'm lifting hard I think I have nothing to be ashamed of in terms of body composition ever.

Sorry for being a bitch. Starting tomorrow I'll ramp up the calories gradually and work towards a body recomp. My nutrition goals have already been planned.

@Osmoses

For the last time, I have a barrel chest. My ribcage and gut have stuck out like that my entire life, even when I was fat. It sucks but it's something I gotta work with.



@Decaf

Thanks for the help snapping me out of this rut. I don't know what's come over me these past couple of months. Luckily I'm still pretty strong--I deadlifted 150x5 the other day, but I can be a lot stronger I feel.

Time to start eating again.

Oh, didn't realize barrel chest was a real thing. Though from looking at the picture you linked... You don't look anything like that. It's not your chest that goes out, it's your gut that goes in. Maybe that's still a symptom of barrel chest, I dunno, you just look underfed to me.

Keep us posted on bulking-process
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20076 Posts
May 21 2012 17:56 GMT
#4098
On May 21 2012 23:00 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
@Malinor and the group

You know... I think you're right. I may not have that magazine cover six pack, but I shouldn't feel bad about my body. There is a lot of room for improvement, but that can be done through packing on muscle too. As long as I'm lifting hard I think I have nothing to be ashamed of in terms of body composition ever.

Sorry for being a bitch. Starting tomorrow I'll ramp up the calories gradually and work towards a body recomp. My nutrition goals have already been planned.

@Osmoses

For the last time, I have a barrel chest. My ribcage and gut have stuck out like that my entire life, even when I was fat. It sucks but it's something I gotta work with.



@Decaf

Thanks for the help snapping me out of this rut. I don't know what's come over me these past couple of months. Luckily I'm still pretty strong--I deadlifted 150x5 the other day, but I can be a lot stronger I feel.

Time to start eating again.

Old school beast mode Rosa gogo
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 18:41:41
May 21 2012 18:40 GMT
#4099


How can you look so small and weak and lift so much?
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Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
May 21 2012 19:48 GMT
#4100
Contrary to all the whining here, Im becoming a greek demi god.

Last night (today is national festivity in Chile) my gf (2 weeks now ) wanted me to go with her to a birthday party to meet all her friends (I knew only a few); it was clearly a test which I passed with merit :p. I made sure all girls got drunk by drinking tequila with them, so they all loved me. Got a bit drunk myself aswell, but my gf was more drunk so it was all good. I also wanted to hit on another girl for first time since I have gf so I guess Im human again aswell. Reading girlschase.com helps so much with everything, even if im not into pickup at all. Just understanding girls and controlling my own mood seems to help a lot with everything.

Oh, I also met my gf guy friends. I love them, they are so average. I honestly believe my gf likes me more whenever she is around them :p

Got home at 4:30 am. Woke up today at 9:30 am (mom woke me up), and

Squat: 145kgx3x5
BP: 100kgx3x6, side dumbell raises 10x5
Squat: 125kgx5x5
abs: 10x3

went to gym from 11 to 2pm, incluing stretching at the end. Rested 3:30-4 min between squats and 2-3 minutes in benches. It was so fucking ez I am still creeped out. It took me 3 hours to complete a slightly heavier workout that took me 4 hours 15 minutes to complete 2 weeks ago.

I blame all my success on reading every fucking article on the right side of girlschase.com (ignore ads) and taking vit D pills. They are better than fucking steroids.

My ego is fucking huge now aswell.
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