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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
May 07 2012 12:28 GMT
#3841
On May 07 2012 12:35 AoN.DimSum wrote:


LOL

Hahaha, two of my friends do the exact same thing constantly, and they don't even have the decency to do it in the privacy of their homes, they do it at the gym while I'm exercising with them. They don't quite have the moves of this guy, but they are constantly doing some kind of dance with the barbell.
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KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
May 07 2012 13:20 GMT
#3842
Hi guys! I'm 17 and 173 cm. I weigh about 75 kilos and have some (well kind of alot) of belly fat I wanna get rid of. Should I do cardio or strength training/ lifting? Or a combination of both? My diet consists of lots of veggies and eggs and stuff and bread. I don't know what would be more effective to get rid of my belly fat and lose bodyfat in general to get that sex pack sooner! Thank you in advance :D And cardio I think of running, epiliptical machine.

Male btw.
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 13:52:01
May 07 2012 13:49 GMT
#3843
On May 07 2012 22:20 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Hi guys! I'm 17 and 173 cm. I weigh about 75 kilos and have some (well kind of alot) of belly fat I wanna get rid of. Should I do cardio or strength training/ lifting? Or a combination of both? My diet consists of lots of veggies and eggs and stuff and bread. I don't know what would be more effective to get rid of my belly fat and lose bodyfat in general to get that sex pack sooner! Thank you in advance :D And cardio I think of running, epiliptical machine.

Male btw.

Making changes to your diet will be the most important thing to being able to see your abs if that's your first priority. Check out the nutrition thread, Eshlow sums up a lot of the fundamentals there: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261918

A lot of us will tell you to lift weights. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261928
A) Being stronger is just better
B) Putting on muscle makes you look better, even if you're not at 10% bodyfat or something

Edit: Workout update:
Really frustrated with deadlift. Managed to pull 315 off the floor about an inch before failing twice. My dead lift progress looks like this: 315x3, 315x0, 315x0 >.< I'm just going to reset to like 275 and work up I guess.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
xJupiter9x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States150 Posts
May 07 2012 14:01 GMT
#3844
Fucked myself over hard for my PRT today. Future note to self, do not go swimming in the ocean for like 3-4 hours and then pull an all nighter the day before your PRT or you will only do 102 push ups, 98 sit ups and a 11/2 mile in 940. I wanted to have gotten like 10-15 more on push/sit and at least a minute off my run. Did the first 3/4 in 410, then my legs cramped and died hardcore. All my fault though, I should have not been a retard haha.
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
May 07 2012 15:01 GMT
#3845
On May 07 2012 22:49 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 22:20 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Hi guys! I'm 17 and 173 cm. I weigh about 75 kilos and have some (well kind of alot) of belly fat I wanna get rid of. Should I do cardio or strength training/ lifting? Or a combination of both? My diet consists of lots of veggies and eggs and stuff and bread. I don't know what would be more effective to get rid of my belly fat and lose bodyfat in general to get that sex pack sooner! Thank you in advance :D And cardio I think of running, epiliptical machine.

Male btw.

Making changes to your diet will be the most important thing to being able to see your abs if that's your first priority. Check out the nutrition thread, Eshlow sums up a lot of the fundamentals there: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261918

A lot of us will tell you to lift weights. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261928
A) Being stronger is just better
B) Putting on muscle makes you look better, even if you're not at 10% bodyfat or something

Edit: Workout update:
Really frustrated with deadlift. Managed to pull 315 off the floor about an inch before failing twice. My dead lift progress looks like this: 315x3, 315x0, 315x0 >.< I'm just going to reset to like 275 and work up I guess.


Thanks so much for your answer! So guess im not doing cardio but only lifting weights and such :D

A little question though, is it possible to do like go to the gym 5 times a week and do cardio and lifting? like monday lifting, tuesday cardio (as well as restday for my muscles) and then wedenesday lifting then thursday cardio then friday lifting, would this be good to reduce my overall fat and lose belly fat? thanks in advance!
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
May 07 2012 15:04 GMT
#3846
On May 08 2012 00:01 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 22:49 mordek wrote:
On May 07 2012 22:20 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Hi guys! I'm 17 and 173 cm. I weigh about 75 kilos and have some (well kind of alot) of belly fat I wanna get rid of. Should I do cardio or strength training/ lifting? Or a combination of both? My diet consists of lots of veggies and eggs and stuff and bread. I don't know what would be more effective to get rid of my belly fat and lose bodyfat in general to get that sex pack sooner! Thank you in advance :D And cardio I think of running, epiliptical machine.

Male btw.

Making changes to your diet will be the most important thing to being able to see your abs if that's your first priority. Check out the nutrition thread, Eshlow sums up a lot of the fundamentals there: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261918

A lot of us will tell you to lift weights. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261928
A) Being stronger is just better
B) Putting on muscle makes you look better, even if you're not at 10% bodyfat or something

Edit: Workout update:
Really frustrated with deadlift. Managed to pull 315 off the floor about an inch before failing twice. My dead lift progress looks like this: 315x3, 315x0, 315x0 >.< I'm just going to reset to like 275 and work up I guess.


Thanks so much for your answer! So guess im not doing cardio but only lifting weights and such :D

A little question though, is it possible to do like go to the gym 5 times a week and do cardio and lifting? like monday lifting, tuesday cardio (as well as restday for my muscles) and then wedenesday lifting then thursday cardio then friday lifting, would this be good to reduce my overall fat and lose belly fat? thanks in advance!

Read the stickies in this forum, they answer all your questions. To give you a quick answer: No, you don't want to exercise everyday. You need at least a day to recover from lifting heavy weights, otherwise you won't have any time to build muscle.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
May 07 2012 15:07 GMT
#3847
On May 08 2012 00:01 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 22:49 mordek wrote:
On May 07 2012 22:20 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Hi guys! I'm 17 and 173 cm. I weigh about 75 kilos and have some (well kind of alot) of belly fat I wanna get rid of. Should I do cardio or strength training/ lifting? Or a combination of both? My diet consists of lots of veggies and eggs and stuff and bread. I don't know what would be more effective to get rid of my belly fat and lose bodyfat in general to get that sex pack sooner! Thank you in advance :D And cardio I think of running, epiliptical machine.

Male btw.

Making changes to your diet will be the most important thing to being able to see your abs if that's your first priority. Check out the nutrition thread, Eshlow sums up a lot of the fundamentals there: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261918

A lot of us will tell you to lift weights. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261928
A) Being stronger is just better
B) Putting on muscle makes you look better, even if you're not at 10% bodyfat or something

Edit: Workout update:
Really frustrated with deadlift. Managed to pull 315 off the floor about an inch before failing twice. My dead lift progress looks like this: 315x3, 315x0, 315x0 >.< I'm just going to reset to like 275 and work up I guess.


Thanks so much for your answer! So guess im not doing cardio but only lifting weights and such :D

A little question though, is it possible to do like go to the gym 5 times a week and do cardio and lifting? like monday lifting, tuesday cardio (as well as restday for my muscles) and then wedenesday lifting then thursday cardio then friday lifting, would this be good to reduce my overall fat and lose belly fat? thanks in advance!

You can definitely add cardio in as well. However, if you feel like it's interfering with your recovery, such as you're unable to do the same amount of squats the next work out, it may be best to drop the cardio and wait to add it in down the road. Again, don't forget that losing fat is going to primarily result from eating a good diet at a caloric deficit. All outlined in the nutrition sticky
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
May 07 2012 16:22 GMT
#3848
On May 07 2012 22:49 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 22:20 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Hi guys! I'm 17 and 173 cm. I weigh about 75 kilos and have some (well kind of alot) of belly fat I wanna get rid of. Should I do cardio or strength training/ lifting? Or a combination of both? My diet consists of lots of veggies and eggs and stuff and bread. I don't know what would be more effective to get rid of my belly fat and lose bodyfat in general to get that sex pack sooner! Thank you in advance :D And cardio I think of running, epiliptical machine.

Male btw.


Edit: Workout update:
Really frustrated with deadlift. Managed to pull 315 off the floor about an inch before failing twice. My dead lift progress looks like this: 315x3, 315x0, 315x0 >.< I'm just going to reset to like 275 and work up I guess.


most likely a mental blockade? sounds like it at least. gotta summon your inner decaf and not let go of that bar until you are standing upright!

YOU CAN DO IT
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
May 07 2012 16:59 GMT
#3849
On May 08 2012 01:22 Zafrumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 22:49 mordek wrote:
On May 07 2012 22:20 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Hi guys! I'm 17 and 173 cm. I weigh about 75 kilos and have some (well kind of alot) of belly fat I wanna get rid of. Should I do cardio or strength training/ lifting? Or a combination of both? My diet consists of lots of veggies and eggs and stuff and bread. I don't know what would be more effective to get rid of my belly fat and lose bodyfat in general to get that sex pack sooner! Thank you in advance :D And cardio I think of running, epiliptical machine.

Male btw.


Edit: Workout update:
Really frustrated with deadlift. Managed to pull 315 off the floor about an inch before failing twice. My dead lift progress looks like this: 315x3, 315x0, 315x0 >.< I'm just going to reset to like 275 and work up I guess.


most likely a mental blockade? sounds like it at least. gotta summon your inner decaf and not let go of that bar until you are standing upright!

YOU CAN DO IT

Probably is, thanks ^^ I've had a nagging pain in the back of my hip. Not sure if SI or something but next time I will channel my inner decaf!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
DimmuKlok
Profile Joined June 2010
United States225 Posts
May 07 2012 18:01 GMT
#3850
On May 08 2012 00:07 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 00:01 KTF_CloaK wrote:
On May 07 2012 22:49 mordek wrote:
On May 07 2012 22:20 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Hi guys! I'm 17 and 173 cm. I weigh about 75 kilos and have some (well kind of alot) of belly fat I wanna get rid of. Should I do cardio or strength training/ lifting? Or a combination of both? My diet consists of lots of veggies and eggs and stuff and bread. I don't know what would be more effective to get rid of my belly fat and lose bodyfat in general to get that sex pack sooner! Thank you in advance :D And cardio I think of running, epiliptical machine.

Male btw.

Making changes to your diet will be the most important thing to being able to see your abs if that's your first priority. Check out the nutrition thread, Eshlow sums up a lot of the fundamentals there: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261918

A lot of us will tell you to lift weights. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261928
A) Being stronger is just better
B) Putting on muscle makes you look better, even if you're not at 10% bodyfat or something

Edit: Workout update:
Really frustrated with deadlift. Managed to pull 315 off the floor about an inch before failing twice. My dead lift progress looks like this: 315x3, 315x0, 315x0 >.< I'm just going to reset to like 275 and work up I guess.


Thanks so much for your answer! So guess im not doing cardio but only lifting weights and such :D

A little question though, is it possible to do like go to the gym 5 times a week and do cardio and lifting? like monday lifting, tuesday cardio (as well as restday for my muscles) and then wedenesday lifting then thursday cardio then friday lifting, would this be good to reduce my overall fat and lose belly fat? thanks in advance!

You can definitely add cardio in as well. However, if you feel like it's interfering with your recovery, such as you're unable to do the same amount of squats the next work out, it may be best to drop the cardio and wait to add it in down the road. Again, don't forget that losing fat is going to primarily result from eating a good diet at a caloric deficit. All outlined in the nutrition sticky

Completely agree with mordek here. I asked those same questions when I first started losing weight and posting here. You can do some type of exercising in between lifting days, but it will hamper your lifting results because your body doesn't have as much time to recover. I personally love cycling and do/did it on lifting and non lifting days. It's a sacrifice I'm more than willing to make because of my love for cycling. I plan on doing the same thing with running because I'm a terrible runner :D

In your case though you want to do cardio on off days to lose fat more efficiently. As mordek explained that's not a good way of going about that, and you should instead just try to focus on your diet more by eating healthy and at a caloric deficit.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
May 07 2012 18:22 GMT
#3851
Been sleeping on the weirdest pattern lately. Basically staying up for 36-48 hours at a time, then sleeping for 14-16. My body is actually pretty comfortable with it, but it's playing hell with my academics, my social life, my meal timings, and my gym attendance. Still, I'm coming back around to a normal pattern, and I'm going home on wednesday for a few weeks, which will definitely help get everything back to "normal".

Should be working two new jobs (I hope) come june 1st, and living in my own apartment, finally having a kitchen again. Dining halls are nice because of how easy they are to work with, but they're miserable when it comes to selection (especially paleo selection) and I don't even want to know what kinds of oils the food is cooked in. Plus, the hours are terrible for someone who doesn't have class until noon - they close at 6:30, so I'm pretty much FORCED into IF. It will be annoying to have to cook again, but definitely better for me.

Plan to weigh ~200 lbs (that's 12-15 pounds away now, for 3 months) by the end of summer, begin a Leangains recomp whenever that happens, and then when I'm happy with bodyfat push onwards to that 220 mark that I never thought I would actually reach! Sounds so easy when I type it up... we shall see if i have anything worthwhile to post when the next november progress thread rolls around!
RawrAnOcean
Profile Joined February 2006
United States359 Posts
May 07 2012 18:34 GMT
#3852
I've started getting back in shape this year. Last year I did starting strength but I didn't like it so much so I kind of built my own program. It's been working well for me. I do have a question, recently I've been gagging while I work out. I'm thinking maybe it's cause I'm eating a couple hours before I work out?

Progress has been pretty good. I eat pretty horrible and I know it's definitely holding my progress back. Pretty good for 40% travel as of recent though.

Weight: 180
Height: 5'11"

Maxed out last week with
Bench 275
Squat 365
Deadlift 405
Power Clean 220

Also, any good video on dropping power cleans without rubber plates? I've been dropping them onto my leg so that my shoulders don't absorb the weight, but I think I let my legs absorb too much of the drop.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4727 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 20:34:43
May 07 2012 20:29 GMT
#3853
Well, since I haven't posted much in a while, I will also give a little status update. I am down from 170kg to 115kg, so only 16kg to go and 9 months to do it. So if nothing unfathomable happens, it should be pretty easy to achieve. Not quite ready yet to post before-after pics in a public forum, but if I know you well enough, I maybe will give you a preview.

My diet has been anything but clean lately. Since we always have those reoccuring carbohydrate debates, I have eaten way too much of them lately (and got less protein) and in terms of weight loss, it has not made a difference. Though what seems to be the case is that my weight is way more inconsistent. Several times this year there has been a difference of up to 3,5kg within a week, while this never happened last year when I was on a more clean diet. I don't know if this is causation or correlation, all I can think of is water and glycogen storage.

I have been on a very high volume routine for Squats and Deadlifts during the last 4 weeks (Korte 3x3), and now 4 weeks with much less volume and more intensity will follow. The volume weeks are very hard though. I did this programm once for squats and had good results and I am really curious if it will work a second time. I am (finally) up to 3 Chin Ups and I am working my way up with Weighted Dips (3x5 +5kg so far). After my wrist surgery in march I reseted my Overhead Press and Push Press, going up 5x5-SL style. And I don't Bench Press anymore, because my shoulder just doesn't like it (maybe I'll try again in a couple of months). Overhead work is way more fun anyway.

I have also gotten pretty good at rope skipping, learned all those nice moves (cross-overs, double-unders, backwards, etc.) and just lack a bit in the endurance department (we have a wrestler in the gym who basically jumped for 30minutes straight yesterday, he is crazy fit), but since endurance is not too high on my priority list, I don't mind much.

In other news, I had a job interview last week and didn't get it, which was kind of a bummer. But it was my first interview and there were for sure several things I could have handled better, so it wasn't too shocking. Live and learn I guess.

And since it cannot be said often enough, I love this forum and all you guys that have been here together with me for several years. Keep it up guys .
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 00:19:31
May 08 2012 00:19 GMT
#3854
On May 08 2012 03:34 RawrAnOcean wrote:

Also, any good video on dropping power cleans without rubber plates? I've been dropping them onto my leg so that my shoulders don't absorb the weight, but I think I let my legs absorb too much of the drop.

horse stall mat(s)
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lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
May 08 2012 01:32 GMT
#3855
On May 08 2012 09:19 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 03:34 RawrAnOcean wrote:

Also, any good video on dropping power cleans without rubber plates? I've been dropping them onto my leg so that my shoulders don't absorb the weight, but I think I let my legs absorb too much of the drop.

horse stall mat(s)


http://vimeo.com/25531302

Rippetoe will make you feel like an idiot, though.
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Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 03:03:41
May 08 2012 03:03 GMT
#3856
Today I was supposed to do squat 127.5kg 5x5. Ended up getting 4x5 and a triple. The last rep was so fucking hard. I went down fast, bounced like a quarter of the way up, hit the hole again, then grinded it out. It was gooooood.
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rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
May 08 2012 07:43 GMT
#3857
On May 08 2012 12:03 Donkeys wrote:
Today I was supposed to do squat 127.5kg 5x5. Ended up getting 4x5 and a triple. The last rep was so fucking hard. I went down fast, bounced like a quarter of the way up, hit the hole again, then grinded it out. It was gooooood.


nice squats, im jelly. doing 3x5x110kg next time, trying to reach 120kg unbelted in short-term.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
May 08 2012 07:53 GMT
#3858
Holy cheapshit triplenuts who decided FRUIT PUNCH was the direction to go in for creatine flavors? Was the only thing available and I wanted to try creatine so when I went and grabbed my regular protein powder I just grabbed the only container of the stuff. AHHHHH!!! T_T
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
May 08 2012 08:19 GMT
#3859
yesterday was the first time that I did "heavy" high-bar squats (120kg) for 3 sets of five (always used to do low-bar before). now my neck/upper spine is sort of stiff and hurts a bit when I move my head.. is that normal or was I doing them wrong? I thought I had the bar on my traps but now I'm not so sure it wasn't on the bone... halp!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
May 08 2012 08:42 GMT
#3860
On May 08 2012 17:19 Zafrumi wrote:
yesterday was the first time that I did "heavy" high-bar squats (120kg) for 3 sets of five (always used to do low-bar before). now my neck/upper spine is sort of stiff and hurts a bit when I move my head.. is that normal or was I doing them wrong? I thought I had the bar on my traps but now I'm not so sure it wasn't on the bone... halp!


Can't really know without a video of your lifting. I don't lift weights that high yet so I can't comment.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
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