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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
March 13 2012 13:48 GMT
#2381
Well, I was using the pad but now I know not to (if I can handle it ) Thanks guys ^^

@infinity Get it! It's an awesome feeling to work up to 100kg
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 13 2012 16:11 GMT
#2382
Shikyo
Age: 22 || Height: 174 || Weight: 62.5
Starting Date: March 13 2012 || Goal Date: December 31 2012
Weight goals -- By that time? Probably 65 would be decent.
Training goals -- The general idea would be reducing fat and gaining muscle.
Nutrition goals -- Eating 4 healthy meals per day, going up to 5 and eventually 6 as I get better at fitting them into my daily life.
Sleep goals -- Not needing an alarm clock to wake up and hopefully 8 hours a night.

The only goals would be to be healthier and to look better. I'm trying to lose bodyfat while training to gain muscle. Muscle gain takes priority over fat loss, however I kind of feel like I would rather lose most of the fat a bit faster to begin with.

I was planning on doing weight exercise 3 days a week for starters, progressing to 5 days a week after I'm feeling more comfortable with it and it's not feeling so good anymore. My goal is to do at least 30 min of cardio every day as well.

As for nutrition, I was planning on having a semi-vegetarian nutrition, consisting mainly of milk and whole-grain macaroni. The whole-grain macaroni over here has 16 grams of protein in 100 grams which is just amazing when you consider that would be the main carbohydrate source as well.

A meal consisting of 125 grams of whole-grain macaroni and two glasses of milk along with 200 grams of frozen vegetables is going to have:
560 calories
33g protein
2.5g fat

And not sure about carbs but basically the rest and also a ton of fiber. That to me seems quite decent and currently a meal like that 4 times a day would seem quite nice for me, even though I'm not sure what I should do about getting the necessary amount of fat. Just a teaspoon of flax oil, I guess? And does this seem allright if it's the only thing I eat at all?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
March 13 2012 16:11 GMT
#2383
Kroc chins is where it's at.

I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
March 13 2012 16:29 GMT
#2384
On March 14 2012 01:11 Shikyo wrote:
Shikyo
Age: 22 || Height: 174 || Weight: 62.5
Starting Date: March 13 2012 || Goal Date: December 31 2012
Weight goals -- By that time? Probably 65 would be decent.
Training goals -- The general idea would be reducing fat and gaining muscle.
Nutrition goals -- Eating 4 healthy meals per day, going up to 5 and eventually 6 as I get better at fitting them into my daily life.
Sleep goals -- Not needing an alarm clock to wake up and hopefully 8 hours a night.

The only goals would be to be healthier and to look better. I'm trying to lose bodyfat while training to gain muscle. Muscle gain takes priority over fat loss, however I kind of feel like I would rather lose most of the fat a bit faster to begin with.

I was planning on doing weight exercise 3 days a week for starters, progressing to 5 days a week after I'm feeling more comfortable with it and it's not feeling so good anymore. My goal is to do at least 30 min of cardio every day as well.

As for nutrition, I was planning on having a semi-vegetarian nutrition, consisting mainly of milk and whole-grain macaroni. The whole-grain macaroni over here has 16 grams of protein in 100 grams which is just amazing when you consider that would be the main carbohydrate source as well.

A meal consisting of 125 grams of whole-grain macaroni and two glasses of milk along with 200 grams of frozen vegetables is going to have:
560 calories
33g protein
2.5g fat

And not sure about carbs but basically the rest and also a ton of fiber. That to me seems quite decent and currently a meal like that 4 times a day would seem quite nice for me, even though I'm not sure what I should do about getting the necessary amount of fat. Just a teaspoon of flax oil, I guess? And does this seem allright if it's the only thing I eat at all?


welcome! be sure to check out the recommended training thread for some good routines to get you started. basic barbell strength training should be your main focus imo 30 mins of cardio after your lifting sessions is fine if you want to minimize fat gains and arent terribly concerned about slow gains in the lifting department.

about the whole grain proteins: although it says 16% protein, it isnt "good" protein in the sense that grain protein is a) not really "bioavailable" for your body (I think its something like 60% for grains? compared to like 95-99% for meat, fish, eggs etc) and b) it may actually be harmful to your body. lookup "gluten" if you want more info or just check out the general nutrition thread we have here on TL
not saying you should totally avoid grains (or, well, actually I am Paleo all the way imo! but its your choice and if you choose to go the whole grain way then that is still better than eating junk food or highly processed food all the time) but you should be aware of this. I think soy is the only non-meat protein that is at least comparable to the animal protein.
gl with your goals. if you have any more questions, feel free to ask here!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 16:34:03
March 13 2012 16:33 GMT
#2385
On March 14 2012 01:11 Sneakyz wrote:
Kroc chins is where it's at.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wAEXOM-Mvg&feature=relmfu


rofl, Jim Wendler is hillarious.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 13 2012 16:39 GMT
#2386
On March 14 2012 01:29 Zafrumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 01:11 Shikyo wrote:
Shikyo
Age: 22 || Height: 174 || Weight: 62.5
Starting Date: March 13 2012 || Goal Date: December 31 2012
Weight goals -- By that time? Probably 65 would be decent.
Training goals -- The general idea would be reducing fat and gaining muscle.
Nutrition goals -- Eating 4 healthy meals per day, going up to 5 and eventually 6 as I get better at fitting them into my daily life.
Sleep goals -- Not needing an alarm clock to wake up and hopefully 8 hours a night.

The only goals would be to be healthier and to look better. I'm trying to lose bodyfat while training to gain muscle. Muscle gain takes priority over fat loss, however I kind of feel like I would rather lose most of the fat a bit faster to begin with.

I was planning on doing weight exercise 3 days a week for starters, progressing to 5 days a week after I'm feeling more comfortable with it and it's not feeling so good anymore. My goal is to do at least 30 min of cardio every day as well.

As for nutrition, I was planning on having a semi-vegetarian nutrition, consisting mainly of milk and whole-grain macaroni. The whole-grain macaroni over here has 16 grams of protein in 100 grams which is just amazing when you consider that would be the main carbohydrate source as well.

A meal consisting of 125 grams of whole-grain macaroni and two glasses of milk along with 200 grams of frozen vegetables is going to have:
560 calories
33g protein
2.5g fat

And not sure about carbs but basically the rest and also a ton of fiber. That to me seems quite decent and currently a meal like that 4 times a day would seem quite nice for me, even though I'm not sure what I should do about getting the necessary amount of fat. Just a teaspoon of flax oil, I guess? And does this seem allright if it's the only thing I eat at all?


welcome! be sure to check out the recommended training thread for some good routines to get you started. basic barbell strength training should be your main focus imo 30 mins of cardio after your lifting sessions is fine if you want to minimize fat gains and arent terribly concerned about slow gains in the lifting department.

about the whole grain proteins: although it says 16% protein, it isnt "good" protein in the sense that grain protein is a) not really "bioavailable" for your body (I think its something like 60% for grains? compared to like 95-99% for meat, fish, eggs etc) and b) it may actually be harmful to your body. lookup "gluten" if you want more info or just check out the general nutrition thread we have here on TL
not saying you should totally avoid grains (or, well, actually I am Paleo all the way imo! but its your choice and if you choose to go the whole grain way then that is still better than eating junk food or highly processed food all the time) but you should be aware of this. I think soy is the only non-meat protein that is at least comparable to the animal protein.
gl with your goals. if you have any more questions, feel free to ask here!

Hmmm yeah I was aware that the quality of it isn't that great, but I still am not that into meat(As in I don't really like eating it but won't refuse if I'm offered it when visiting someone or eating in restaurants). As far as I know both egg whites and milk have high-quality proteins, so Mmhm how big of a deal is it if slightly less than half of my protein isn't super high-quality? Considering that I'm not attempting to become a pro bodybuilder or anything of the sort.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
March 13 2012 16:51 GMT
#2387
On March 14 2012 01:39 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 01:29 Zafrumi wrote:
On March 14 2012 01:11 Shikyo wrote:
Shikyo
Age: 22 || Height: 174 || Weight: 62.5
Starting Date: March 13 2012 || Goal Date: December 31 2012
Weight goals -- By that time? Probably 65 would be decent.
Training goals -- The general idea would be reducing fat and gaining muscle.
Nutrition goals -- Eating 4 healthy meals per day, going up to 5 and eventually 6 as I get better at fitting them into my daily life.
Sleep goals -- Not needing an alarm clock to wake up and hopefully 8 hours a night.

The only goals would be to be healthier and to look better. I'm trying to lose bodyfat while training to gain muscle. Muscle gain takes priority over fat loss, however I kind of feel like I would rather lose most of the fat a bit faster to begin with.

I was planning on doing weight exercise 3 days a week for starters, progressing to 5 days a week after I'm feeling more comfortable with it and it's not feeling so good anymore. My goal is to do at least 30 min of cardio every day as well.

As for nutrition, I was planning on having a semi-vegetarian nutrition, consisting mainly of milk and whole-grain macaroni. The whole-grain macaroni over here has 16 grams of protein in 100 grams which is just amazing when you consider that would be the main carbohydrate source as well.

A meal consisting of 125 grams of whole-grain macaroni and two glasses of milk along with 200 grams of frozen vegetables is going to have:
560 calories
33g protein
2.5g fat

And not sure about carbs but basically the rest and also a ton of fiber. That to me seems quite decent and currently a meal like that 4 times a day would seem quite nice for me, even though I'm not sure what I should do about getting the necessary amount of fat. Just a teaspoon of flax oil, I guess? And does this seem allright if it's the only thing I eat at all?


welcome! be sure to check out the recommended training thread for some good routines to get you started. basic barbell strength training should be your main focus imo 30 mins of cardio after your lifting sessions is fine if you want to minimize fat gains and arent terribly concerned about slow gains in the lifting department.

about the whole grain proteins: although it says 16% protein, it isnt "good" protein in the sense that grain protein is a) not really "bioavailable" for your body (I think its something like 60% for grains? compared to like 95-99% for meat, fish, eggs etc) and b) it may actually be harmful to your body. lookup "gluten" if you want more info or just check out the general nutrition thread we have here on TL
not saying you should totally avoid grains (or, well, actually I am Paleo all the way imo! but its your choice and if you choose to go the whole grain way then that is still better than eating junk food or highly processed food all the time) but you should be aware of this. I think soy is the only non-meat protein that is at least comparable to the animal protein.
gl with your goals. if you have any more questions, feel free to ask here!

Hmmm yeah I was aware that the quality of it isn't that great, but I still am not that into meat(As in I don't really like eating it but won't refuse if I'm offered it when visiting someone or eating in restaurants). As far as I know both egg whites and milk have high-quality proteins, so Mmhm how big of a deal is it if slightly less than half of my protein isn't super high-quality? Considering that I'm not attempting to become a pro bodybuilder or anything of the sort.

You'll basically see slower gains in muscle and strength. Eggs are good, easy and cheap. If you don't mind them, work it in to your diet as often as possible imo.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 13 2012 17:00 GMT
#2388
On March 14 2012 01:51 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 01:39 Shikyo wrote:
On March 14 2012 01:29 Zafrumi wrote:
On March 14 2012 01:11 Shikyo wrote:
Shikyo
Age: 22 || Height: 174 || Weight: 62.5
Starting Date: March 13 2012 || Goal Date: December 31 2012
Weight goals -- By that time? Probably 65 would be decent.
Training goals -- The general idea would be reducing fat and gaining muscle.
Nutrition goals -- Eating 4 healthy meals per day, going up to 5 and eventually 6 as I get better at fitting them into my daily life.
Sleep goals -- Not needing an alarm clock to wake up and hopefully 8 hours a night.

The only goals would be to be healthier and to look better. I'm trying to lose bodyfat while training to gain muscle. Muscle gain takes priority over fat loss, however I kind of feel like I would rather lose most of the fat a bit faster to begin with.

I was planning on doing weight exercise 3 days a week for starters, progressing to 5 days a week after I'm feeling more comfortable with it and it's not feeling so good anymore. My goal is to do at least 30 min of cardio every day as well.

As for nutrition, I was planning on having a semi-vegetarian nutrition, consisting mainly of milk and whole-grain macaroni. The whole-grain macaroni over here has 16 grams of protein in 100 grams which is just amazing when you consider that would be the main carbohydrate source as well.

A meal consisting of 125 grams of whole-grain macaroni and two glasses of milk along with 200 grams of frozen vegetables is going to have:
560 calories
33g protein
2.5g fat

And not sure about carbs but basically the rest and also a ton of fiber. That to me seems quite decent and currently a meal like that 4 times a day would seem quite nice for me, even though I'm not sure what I should do about getting the necessary amount of fat. Just a teaspoon of flax oil, I guess? And does this seem allright if it's the only thing I eat at all?


welcome! be sure to check out the recommended training thread for some good routines to get you started. basic barbell strength training should be your main focus imo 30 mins of cardio after your lifting sessions is fine if you want to minimize fat gains and arent terribly concerned about slow gains in the lifting department.

about the whole grain proteins: although it says 16% protein, it isnt "good" protein in the sense that grain protein is a) not really "bioavailable" for your body (I think its something like 60% for grains? compared to like 95-99% for meat, fish, eggs etc) and b) it may actually be harmful to your body. lookup "gluten" if you want more info or just check out the general nutrition thread we have here on TL
not saying you should totally avoid grains (or, well, actually I am Paleo all the way imo! but its your choice and if you choose to go the whole grain way then that is still better than eating junk food or highly processed food all the time) but you should be aware of this. I think soy is the only non-meat protein that is at least comparable to the animal protein.
gl with your goals. if you have any more questions, feel free to ask here!

Hmmm yeah I was aware that the quality of it isn't that great, but I still am not that into meat(As in I don't really like eating it but won't refuse if I'm offered it when visiting someone or eating in restaurants). As far as I know both egg whites and milk have high-quality proteins, so Mmhm how big of a deal is it if slightly less than half of my protein isn't super high-quality? Considering that I'm not attempting to become a pro bodybuilder or anything of the sort.

You'll basically see slower gains in muscle and strength. Eggs are good, easy and cheap. If you don't mind them, work it in to your diet as often as possible imo.

Yeah, though apparently they have a ton of Sodium so I'm not sure if I should eat them more than maybe twice a day.

However if it's a big enough deal, what could I use to replace the macaroni, then? Brown rice or something?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
March 13 2012 17:08 GMT
#2389
maybe get some whey protein shakes
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 13 2012 17:12 GMT
#2390
But I have no problems with the main protein sources o_O It's the energy source that's giving the bad kind of proteins, what would a whey protein shake help?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 17:17:20
March 13 2012 17:16 GMT
#2391
I dont follow. I thought you were eating the macaroni for the proteins? I'm just saying that there are better ways to get proteins than macaroni... if you eat them for carbs then thats "fine" although I would prefer white rice, potatoes, sweet potatoes or fruit as a main carb source
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
March 13 2012 17:43 GMT
#2392
Get the protein from shakes, then eat macaroni. The issue with the macaroni was that it wasn't a good enough protein source right?

Unless you're worried about grains etc.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20076 Posts
March 13 2012 17:45 GMT
#2393
So much hostility here. Sheesh.

@sweetlemons look into powercleans for trap development.

Started my killer bench regimen yesterday! Actually had a really good snatch session too, relaxing a lot more on the pull and everything landed where it should perfectly.
Snatch 100, 105, 110, 112, 114, 117, 120, 123 all with no misses. tried 127 and 130 three times each with some narrow misses. I WILL GET YOU ONE DAY 130 YOU BASTARD!
CJ only up to 130 cause of time
Back squat 3x5 @ 160kg
Bench 3x5 @ 60kg ;D

Going to make an honest attempt this week at eating healthy. Saw my body weight is up to around 98kg/215lb. I dont like not being ripped
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
March 13 2012 17:51 GMT
#2394
God, what an amazing workout today. I just feel so strong since I got rid of that stupid fucking bicep tendonitis, 3x5x90kg bench, which I did 4reps with like 8 months ago (LOL), and it didn't even feel slightly heavy. 120kg here I come!
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 13 2012 17:54 GMT
#2395
I'm interested in doing oly lifts, but there are a few things holding me back. First, I'd have to find a real gym. You've seen mine. Second, the idea of resting alot of weight on what appears to be my elbow joints. Shit is bent backwards, and we all saw the vid with the guy who's elbow snapped.

Other than that, it seems like fun :p
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 13 2012 18:01 GMT
#2396
On March 14 2012 02:45 decafchicken wrote:
So much hostility here. Sheesh.

@sweetlemons look into powercleans for trap development.

Started my killer bench regimen yesterday! Actually had a really good snatch session too, relaxing a lot more on the pull and everything landed where it should perfectly.
Snatch 100, 105, 110, 112, 114, 117, 120, 123 all with no misses. tried 127 and 130 three times each with some narrow misses. I WILL GET YOU ONE DAY 130 YOU BASTARD!
CJ only up to 130 cause of time
Back squat 3x5 @ 160kg
Bench 3x5 @ 60kg ;D

Going to make an honest attempt this week at eating healthy. Saw my body weight is up to around 98kg/215lb. I dont like not being ripped


What may I ask is this killer bench regimen haha. 130 will be yours some day!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
March 13 2012 19:16 GMT
#2397
On March 14 2012 02:45 decafchicken wrote:
So much hostility here. Sheesh.

@sweetlemons look into powercleans for trap development.

Started my killer bench regimen yesterday! Actually had a really good snatch session too, relaxing a lot more on the pull and everything landed where it should perfectly.
Snatch 100, 105, 110, 112, 114, 117, 120, 123 all with no misses. tried 127 and 130 three times each with some narrow misses. I WILL GET YOU ONE DAY 130 YOU BASTARD!
CJ only up to 130 cause of time
Back squat 3x5 @ 160kg
Bench 3x5 @ 60kg ;D

Going to make an honest attempt this week at eating healthy. Saw my body weight is up to around 98kg/215lb. I dont like not being ripped



HAHAHA

rofl, Bench @ 60kg.

Y U SO WEAK BRO?
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 13 2012 20:12 GMT
#2398
So there's a new study out that suggests eating red meat increases your chances of, you know, dying, by something like 20%.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=320401

I eat red meat twice a day. It's the only way to eat it. I guess I'm fucked. If I were to suggest this study to be sensationalist bullshit, do I run the risk of sounding somewhat biased?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
March 13 2012 20:19 GMT
#2399
On March 14 2012 04:16 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 02:45 decafchicken wrote:
So much hostility here. Sheesh.

@sweetlemons look into powercleans for trap development.

Started my killer bench regimen yesterday! Actually had a really good snatch session too, relaxing a lot more on the pull and everything landed where it should perfectly.
Snatch 100, 105, 110, 112, 114, 117, 120, 123 all with no misses. tried 127 and 130 three times each with some narrow misses. I WILL GET YOU ONE DAY 130 YOU BASTARD!
CJ only up to 130 cause of time
Back squat 3x5 @ 160kg
Bench 3x5 @ 60kg ;D

Going to make an honest attempt this week at eating healthy. Saw my body weight is up to around 98kg/215lb. I dont like not being ripped



HAHAHA

rofl, Bench @ 60kg.

Y U SO WEAK BRO?

Rofl my girlfriend has bigger pecs and she weighs like a hundred pounds.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
March 13 2012 20:23 GMT
#2400
On March 14 2012 05:12 Osmoses wrote:
So there's a new study out that suggests eating red meat increases your chances of, you know, dying, by something like 20%.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=320401

I eat red meat twice a day. It's the only way to eat it. I guess I'm fucked. If I were to suggest this study to be sensationalist bullshit, do I run the risk of sounding somewhat biased?



I finally understand the perspective of the smoker who says they know it's bad for them but it's worth it.

I won't give up steak.
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