Just list all your PRs and I can form a list! Also if you are racing someone to a certain goal, please tell me too. These PRs can be for running and other sports, not just lifting.
Also if you have a video/picture of your PR, please post and I will put it by your pr.
I'm not going to add anything at the moment because I don't want to update them all the time :p. What about weights, should everything be converted to Metric?
On October 01 2011 04:55 emperorchampion wrote: I'm not going to add anything at the moment because I don't want to update them all the time :p. What about weights, should everything be converted to Metric?
On October 01 2011 05:30 BouBou.865 wrote: Anybody wanna race me to 100kg 3x5 squat? I'm on 80kg 3x5 now. Also, 150kg deadlift anyone? 80kg bench? :D This thread is going to explode haha.
I'm on the 5x5 variation but I will still take you up for the challenge of 100kg squats. I'm currently at 77kg squats with a body weight of 61kg.
Shallowbay(87-88kg) Deadlift 192kgx1, 156kgx8 Bench 120kgx1, 97kgx9 Squat 133kgx1 (have done more, but I'm resetting and working on depth/form so we'll go with this and just increase it)
On October 01 2011 05:30 BouBou.865 wrote: Anybody wanna race me to 100kg 3x5 squat? I'm on 80kg 3x5 now. Also, 150kg deadlift anyone? 80kg bench? :D This thread is going to explode haha.
Sure, i'll race you to 150kg deadlift, i'm currently at 120kg (5rm)
On October 01 2011 10:27 Froadac wrote: Sigh. I'd put mine in but it'd be depressing.
There is nothing depressing about your lifting, in fact, i see it as one of the most awesome around here. It was hard to get me of my ass to do some real shit, and i had no prior health problems.
Btw, my weight was around 76kg, if dimsum wants to update in the OP.
On October 01 2011 10:27 Froadac wrote: Sigh. I'd put mine in but it'd be depressing.
Nothing is more motivating that moving up on the ladder and crushing new PR's! You'd be surprised of the potential tha lies within you.
On October 01 2011 10:54 AirbladeOrange wrote: Tyler would stomp everyone's 800m PR and Incontrol would destroy everyone's everything with weights.
Shame that they don't participate in the thread though...also, incontrol's bench is inhuman but he also commented that his squat and deadlift were waaayyyy worse than his bench. Kinda curious to see what that calculates to.
Add this lift please:
Bench Press: 105kg x1 @ 97kg
I used to be able to run, when I was 15-20kg lighter Had a little over 3200m/2 miles on a cooper test (12 minute run). No way in hell I could do that now though.
also do snatches from the hang count or do I need to do one from the floor to get it approved?
I guess my PR snatch is 60kg, but it's nothing to get excited about at all haha, considering i'm reworking the movement from the beginning with an overhead squat and an empty bar
There's a mistake on the list. Me and Infinity are racing for 100kgx10 back squat, not deadlift. We're also racing to 150kgx5 deadlift, but that's still a bit away. My current lifts are:
On October 01 2011 11:32 MeShiet wrote: kekeke, Zafrumi I have matched your PR snatch today at 50kg (110lbs). My bodyweight is 65.9kg, (145lbs). Too bad my other lifts are horrific.
All 1RM: Back squat: 190lbs (86kg) Deadlift: 235lbs (106kg) Clean and jerk: 150lbs (68kg) Bench press: 160lbs (72kg) Front squat: 145lbs (65kg)
You weigh a bit less then me but your doing 155lb bench, more then your BW which is impressive! How long have you been working out?
Thanks! I did that weight a few times when I was in serious running training a few years ago. I only lifted once a week or so strictly to compliment my running. So to answer your question I have not been lifting long or often and it's the only thing in the gym that I can do decently with heavy weights.
A few weeks ago I began a lifting program to compliment my triathlon training for next summer. I am progressing from higher reps early in the program to lower reps closer to when I want maximum strength gains. Right now I am only lifting once a week and doing pushups and body weight stuff another day. I did 135lbs 8 times on my last of 3 sets so far. I am eager to see what I can put up by the time I am maxing out down the road.
Updating for today's workout + other lifts newly added!
Power Clean: 90kg Power Snatch: 62.5kg
Also, I forgot to mention before that I'm at 97kg. This puts me in the SJarl class in BW, but unfortunately I'm in the 12 year old girl class in actual strength .
Squat - 111kg (245lbs) Deadlift - 125kg (275lbs) I'll join the race for 150kg Bench Press - 75kg (165lbs) Press - 50kg (110lbs) (well two 55lb dumbbells , Im sure most people here use the bar)
On October 02 2011 07:46 Jerubaal wrote: Shouldn't there be a differentiation between powerlifting squat and Oly-style squat? Or does no one actually give a shit about Oly weight?
I dont think it matters, squat is a squat, whether low or high bar. There are people who squat oly style in powerlifting competitions.
decafchicken(94kg) BS - 200kg FS - 155kg CJ - 145kg PC+J - 125kg Snatch - 120kg Power Snatch - 95kg Deadlift - 234kg (malinor you bastard. I know i've got a few more kg in this ez.) Bench - 134kg
Havent maxed out anything besides CJ/Snatch in recent memory, some of these are from like last year lol. Could definitely pump out a better BS with low bar + parallel instead of high bar atg. Maybe i'll max out OHP or something soon. Deadlift i will after my season ends in november. + Show Spoiler [videos] +
Energies(78kg) Back Squat: 130kg x 5 Deadlift: 165kg x 5 Bench: 85kg x 5 Chins: I can do 25, but I don't know if it counts because I do about 15-16 and then the rest of them I start kipping. Weighted Chins: 10kg (12reps)
I'm too embarrassed to post my press and I only started learning the olympic lifts and front squat so I will wait until they are at respectable numbers.
On October 02 2011 07:46 Jerubaal wrote: Shouldn't there be a differentiation between powerlifting squat and Oly-style squat? Or does no one actually give a shit about Oly weight?
I dont think it matters, squat is a squat, whether low or high bar. There are people who squat oly style in powerlifting competitions.
btw I squat oly style.
also updated
Well you should be able to squat a hell of a lot more powerlifting style, all things considered.
On October 02 2011 07:46 Jerubaal wrote: Shouldn't there be a differentiation between powerlifting squat and Oly-style squat? Or does no one actually give a shit about Oly weight?
I dont think it matters, squat is a squat, whether low or high bar. There are people who squat oly style in powerlifting competitions.
btw I squat oly style.
also updated
Well you should be able to squat a hell of a lot more powerlifting style, all things considered.
That's true, but I mean if we aren't considering weightclasses I imagine it scales fairly evenly/doesn't really matter between the two styles.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a big issue with squats where people don't do the full range of motion of getting their ass back and low? I always do a low box squat so I know I'm going far enough down.
I think each section (lift/distance) should be spoilered as well as for the lifts having weight classes similar to the ones used in powerlifting. Just a suggestion
I need to get back into the lifting a little but I have PR's there of Bodyweight: 145lbs (67 kg) Bench: 210lbs (95 kg) Squat: 290lbs (132 kg) Clean and Jerk: 150lbs (68 kg).....so bad
Even though they are awful, I'll throw up my sprint PR's as well. They'll probably be better when I go to try them again since I'm like 35 pounds lighter than before. Definitely one of the things I will be working on over the winter, because with a 61.xx PB is 400m its going to be pretty hard to run much faster than about 4:35-4:40 for the mile.
100m - 13.17 (Hand Time) 400m - 61.34 (Hand Time)
While I'm here, is it feasible to do oly lifts if your gym doesn't have bumper plates or is that generally retarded? I love the oly lifts but I've only ever had access to ideal equipment in HS when I took weightlifting.
Well, since we have a running leaderbord, I might as well lead the charge at the marathon, until a real runner comes in and crushes my time by approximately 90 minutes:
Wow I thought I was hot shit for doing 134kg DL but I'm at the bottom of the list especially considering the guys who can do 120-125x5 are stronger than me lol I will be back! (in 6 weeks)
On October 02 2011 16:06 AirbladeOrange wrote: For dips, what should be the angle in degrees of your upper arm to lower arm at the bottom of the motion? I want to try that out soon.
How about adding in the do 100 quality pushups as fast as you can challenge?
100 pushup challenge - 4:58
I can do 100 pushups in like 90 seconds maybe faster actually
On October 02 2011 13:50 AoN.DimSum wrote: updated stats
btw L_master, should I change everything all the times to min:sec:milisec ? Also you need bumpers for oly lifts, but power cleans are possible.
also memetoss I have the bw of everyone so we dont have to split by weightclass.
I'd say for 100m, 200m, 400m, and 800m, miliseconds are pretty relevant, maybe for the mile, but by the time your getting into 3000m, 5K, etc you don't need it. But certainly for sprints, as there is a HUGE difference between say a 10.2 and a 10.7.
Not happy with this. At. all. 170 went up like nothing, didn't even break a sweat, but I couldn't even get 180 of the floor. Could probably have pulled 175 but I don't give a fuck. This needs to be fixed... RACE 200kg!
You can add me for the race to 160kg deadlift seeing as so many people are doing that Also Back squat 80kg x5 Race to 100kg (3x5) Chin-ups x6 @ 90kg BW
On October 03 2011 00:11 Sneakyz wrote: Sneakyz 86kg
Deadlift 170kg
Not happy with this. At. all. 170 went up like nothing, didn't even break a sweat, but I couldn't even get 180 of the floor. Could probably have pulled 175 but I don't give a fuck. This needs to be fixed... RACE 200kg!
On October 02 2011 16:06 AirbladeOrange wrote: For dips, what should be the angle in degrees of your upper arm to lower arm at the bottom of the motion? I want to try that out soon.
How about adding in the do 100 quality pushups as fast as you can challenge?
100 pushup challenge - 4:58
I can do 100 pushups in like 90 seconds maybe faster actually
I should see how many dips I can do
You may be able to do pushups way faster than me but I'm still ahead of you on the list. I win.
On October 03 2011 00:11 Sneakyz wrote: Sneakyz 86kg
Deadlift 170kg
Not happy with this. At. all. 170 went up like nothing, didn't even break a sweat, but I couldn't even get 180 of the floor. Could probably have pulled 175 but I don't give a fuck. This needs to be fixed... RACE 200kg!
You're on. Race 200kg, go!
Dang, 192kg already? I'll have to work for this one XD.
On October 03 2011 00:11 Sneakyz wrote: Sneakyz 86kg
Deadlift 170kg
Not happy with this. At. all. 170 went up like nothing, didn't even break a sweat, but I couldn't even get 180 of the floor. Could probably have pulled 175 but I don't give a fuck. This needs to be fixed... RACE 200kg!
You're on. Race 200kg, go!
Dang, 192kg already? I'll have to work for this one XD.
ok so since u put it there ill say that can do 110 pushups. but i can probably do more that was after i had already done 3 sets of 70
pushups are kind of funny tho.. since u do so many of them the amount u can do is based largely on how strict your form is. my form is good but it's not VERY strict, dont touch my chest to ground i touch my forehead to ground, and im sure if i touched chest to ground it would make it a little harder.
On October 03 2011 08:51 Kamais_Ookin wrote: What is the criteria for pushup reps non-timed? Is it how much you can do in a 24hr time? 1 sitting? Can you split it in sets or is it in a row?
umm im sure its how many u can do without taking a rest/leaving the pushup position lolz
On October 03 2011 08:51 Kamais_Ookin wrote: What is the criteria for pushup reps non-timed? Is it how much you can do in a 24hr time? 1 sitting? Can you split it in sets or is it in a row?
umm im sure its how many u can do without taking a rest/leaving the pushup position lolz
Alright, so it's the same way as the chin-ups. I don't know why but my mind was blank for whether the push-ups were the same. Part of that was from seeing your beastly 110 push-ups lol.
Please put me on for 95 push-ups in a row at 61kg body weight.
And for OHP i have a weaksauce 77.5kg rofl. This is after i did 10x 120kg clean and jerk and 10 snatches at 100+ so i dont feel too bad about it. I just can't convince myself to do anything before my oly lifts I do want to raise my OHP/push press a lot though because i feel pretty unstable with weights over my head in the 135kg+ range, i figure working push press and ohp will help my core stability with overhead weight.
Deload week! So i did some 1rms for fun. 1x100kg bench press chin ups +25kg 1rm ohp 70kg 1rm push press 75kg 1 rm (nearly hurt myself putting the weight down, no olympic lifter evading skills) all at 82kg bw
Here are all my some terrible PRs... haven't gotten any in a while since my sleep has been so screwed I can't recover well
Travis suggested I post them
@135 lbs or about 61-62kg bodyweight at 5'8" or 1.73m
Current PRs +130 lbs pullup @ 130 lbs (59kg) +190 lbs dip +70 lbs muscle up (rings) 50 dips in a row (didn't really try to go any higher) 20 pullups (didn't really try to go any higher) 4 one arm chinups on both arms
did 120lb weighted pullup @ 170lbs last week, first time ive tried a max in forever, I bet I can do it quite a bit better if I warm up and give it another shot not after some 90lb ones.
Still working on those goddamn onearms, I'm trying to get the pull as opposed to the chin as it seems more functional.
On October 10 2011 11:12 sob3k wrote: reporting to brag thread
did 120lb weighted pullup @ 170lbs last week, first time ive tried a max in forever, I bet I can do it quite a bit better if I warm up and give it another shot not after some 90lb ones.
Still working on those goddamn onearms, I'm trying to get the pull as opposed to the chin as it seems more functional.
Functional is a relative term. Being strong confers benefits across a wider range... there's not a whole lot of difference. I would try to learn both.
From what I've seen the best way to structure training for OAC/OAP is:
2 days of eccentrics OAC/OAP 1 day of weighted chins/pulls 1 day of assisted OAC/OAP
On October 10 2011 11:12 sob3k wrote: reporting to brag thread
did 120lb weighted pullup @ 170lbs last week, first time ive tried a max in forever, I bet I can do it quite a bit better if I warm up and give it another shot not after some 90lb ones.
Still working on those goddamn onearms, I'm trying to get the pull as opposed to the chin as it seems more functional.
Functional is a relative term. Being strong confers benefits across a wider range... there's not a whole lot of difference. I would try to learn both.
From what I've seen the best way to structure training for OAC/OAP is:
2 days of eccentrics OAC/OAP 1 day of weighted chins/pulls 1 day of assisted OAC/OAP
per week that is
Yeah I just wanna be able to do it on a real outdoor object or at the rock gym, there aren't a lot of holds where you can get an underhanded grip.
I have been doing basically what you say, but with more weighted and less eccentric (also probably overttraining every day)....I just don't like eccentrics, mostly they aren't satisfying at all and frustrate me badly after a few. Plus I cant do them after climbing or pretty much any time im not totally fresh.
On October 10 2011 11:12 sob3k wrote: reporting to brag thread
did 120lb weighted pullup @ 170lbs last week, first time ive tried a max in forever, I bet I can do it quite a bit better if I warm up and give it another shot not after some 90lb ones.
Still working on those goddamn onearms, I'm trying to get the pull as opposed to the chin as it seems more functional.
Functional is a relative term. Being strong confers benefits across a wider range... there's not a whole lot of difference. I would try to learn both.
From what I've seen the best way to structure training for OAC/OAP is:
2 days of eccentrics OAC/OAP 1 day of weighted chins/pulls 1 day of assisted OAC/OAP
per week that is
Yeah I just wanna be able to do it on a real outdoor object or at the rock gym, there aren't a lot of holds where you can get an underhanded grip.
I have been doing basically what you say, but with more weighted and less eccentric (also probably overttraining every day)....I just don't like eccentrics, mostly they aren't satisfying at all and frustrate me badly after a few. Plus I cant do them after climbing or pretty much any time im not totally fresh.
None of us *like* eccentrics... but frankly they're the best for this type of thing.
On October 23 2011 09:55 AoN.DimSum wrote: UPDATED!
I don't see why there's a separate category for pullups and chins... for all intents and purposes they're the same thing. I would just group them together.
On October 23 2011 09:55 AoN.DimSum wrote: UPDATED!
I don't see why there's a separate category for pullups and chins... for all intents and purposes they're the same thing. I would just group them together.
Thx for doing it though :p
Nah darling, I can do 20+ chin-ups with ease but when it comes to pull-ups I'm hard pressed to do half of my chins.
On October 23 2011 09:55 AoN.DimSum wrote: UPDATED!
I don't see why there's a separate category for pullups and chins... for all intents and purposes they're the same thing. I would just group them together.
Thx for doing it though :p
Nah darling, I can do 20+ chin-ups with ease but when it comes to pull-ups I'm hard pressed to do half of my chins.
That's cause you're weird.
I never do pullups (and only chins) but it's about equal for me.
On October 23 2011 09:55 AoN.DimSum wrote: UPDATED!
All of my pullup records are actually chinup records because I use the two interchangably so if you want to change them back.... lol.
On October 23 2011 13:39 Steeped wrote: I think im gonna have to try to run the 100m, i feel like i can beat eshlow in that but nothing else haha.
Go for it!
The goal is to challenge yourself and have motivate to catch people.
On October 23 2011 09:55 AoN.DimSum wrote: UPDATED!
I don't see why there's a separate category for pullups and chins... for all intents and purposes they're the same thing. I would just group them together.
Thx for doing it though :p
Nah darling, I can do 20+ chin-ups with ease but when it comes to pull-ups I'm hard pressed to do half of my chins.
That's cause you're weird.
I never do pullups (and only chins) but it's about equal for me.
what?? no
I do pullups twice a week, chinups only one set once a week and I can still consistently do more chinups
On October 25 2011 11:27 NationInArms wrote: Just got a new PR for 1600m today! w00t! NationInArms(54.4kg) 5:23 Beat my old by 3 seconds!
Man, wish I had you to train with. No one around here that I know is around my level for running. Didn't get into running until just a year or two ago in college, so I don't have established "serious" runners to train with from high school XC or whatever.
Hm...back in high school I was able to run a 11.9 100m, but that was hand timed so I'm guessing electronically it be around a 12.1 or 12.2 or so. I haven't actually done any sprinting in like 4~5 years but I'm pretty sure I can get it under 12.5 seconds with a couple months of hard work. Anyways I tried some other stuff and...
On October 28 2011 05:58 AnxiousHippo wrote: 1500m - 4:46.17 I know 1600's up there but I run metric
It's pretty reasonable to just scale the 1500m up to 1600 by just adding 20 seconds (well technically by scaling up from the given pace but 20 seconds is usually about right).
This is really really cool, having a public leaderboard like this is almost enough to make me seriously start thinking about working out and getting in better shape. Keep it up guys.
For PR's maybe you could add under Bench Press a subject for how many reps you can do of your body weight. And/or With people's 1 rep max's, do a conversion to show how strong they are per body pound (or kg since most of you seem to use metric) I'm a dork and like seeing per body pound strength
On November 02 2011 10:08 RxBorG wrote: For PR's maybe you could add under Bench Press a subject for how many reps you can do of your body weight. And/or With people's 1 rep max's, do a conversion to show how strong they are per body pound (or kg since most of you seem to use metric) I'm a dork and like seeing per body pound strength
what are the criteria for vertical jump - i.e. are you allowed a countermovement or an approach? I reckon I would be pretty close to your 30" (78cm) eshlow, but I kind of want to know what I have to measure
also could you add 130kg squat (5rm) to the leaderboard (70kg BW)
Against a wall is a good idea, or against something measurable to a certain height.
I know my reach is 7'5" above me and I'm 1" from touching the rim on a basketball hoop.... therefore 9'9' (or 119 inches) minus 7'5" (or 89") = 30" vertical
On November 03 2011 19:18 Zafrumi wrote: well you already have the lifter's bodyweight for each lift, so you can calculate that yourself.
I meant that below the leaderboard of overall weight lifted, we then have a leaderboard for x of bodyweight. Like a 155 lb guy benching 245 would have a score of 1.69 x bodyweight which is pretty good.
And for the running ones, can we put the best we've ran in our lives, or do they need to be current? Cause I'm not in wrestling shape anymore hahaha
On November 03 2011 21:16 eshlow wrote: Against a wall is a good idea, or against something measurable to a certain height.
I know my reach is 7'5" above me and I'm 1" from touching the rim on a basketball hoop.... therefore 9'9' (or 119 inches) minus 7'5" (or 89") = 30" vertical
Going by this logic...
My reach is about 8'2 inches with one hand (just a bit taller than the average ceiling) or just under 8' with both hands. I can get my whole hand inside the rim on a dunk pretty easily. My hand is about 8 inches long. So without doing a "true" vertical test, I suppose we could call my jump (120' + 8' - 98') = 30 inches as well? That doesn't seem right, there is no way I should be jumping as high as Eshlow. I guess I'll actually test it over winter break or something.
On November 03 2011 19:18 Zafrumi wrote: well you already have the lifter's bodyweight for each lift, so you can calculate that yourself.
I meant that below the leaderboard of overall weight lifted, we then have a leaderboard for x of bodyweight. Like a 155 lb guy bengkulu 245 would have a score of 1.69 x bodyweight which is pretty good.
And for the running ones, can we put the best we've ran in our lives, or do they need to be current? Cause I'm not in wrestling shape anymore hahaha
That said, in powerlifting they use wilks formula to compare lifters of different classes because it is easier for us small fellows to be stronger x bodyweight.
Please add new PR: BP 115kg x 1 :D (75kg)
Quote myself just to upload vid. Hopefully u update soon.
On November 03 2011 19:18 Zafrumi wrote: well you already have the lifter's bodyweight for each lift, so you can calculate that yourself.
I meant that below the leaderboard of overall weight lifted, we then have a leaderboard for x of bodyweight. Like a 155 lb guy bengkulu 245 would have a score of 1.69 x bodyweight which is pretty good.
And for the running ones, can we put the best we've ran in our lives, or do they need to be current? Cause I'm not in wrestling shape anymore hahaha
For running PRs it has to be the best you have done. It wouldn't really make sense any other way. Maybe whoever is the fastest right now can just bring the brag to the running thread.
On November 04 2011 11:00 Froadac wrote: Improvement
70kg Deadlift. 45kg bench 65kg squat
5:40 mile. Good god weight training is good for mile times.
Assuming your an endurance fiber oriented guy more speed makes it easier to run a faster time with less endurance. For instance, a guy with 50 second speed doesn't need anywhere near the strength that a guy with 65 second speed would need to run sub 5. As a general rule of thumb a person that isn't an extremely sprinter type can run a mile in laps of roughly 400m speed + 8-10 seconds. So a guy with 55 speed is going to have a hard time going much faster than 4:10 or so; any faster and it just becomes too maximal of endurance and becomes significantly more difficult to run relaxed.
Weight training depending on how you approach it should allow you to improve you raw speed and thus your quarter speed. More quarter speed = better mile time. Obviously the one caveat to weight training is that if your doing weight training at the expense of running that's generally not going to be worth it.
On November 03 2011 21:16 eshlow wrote: Against a wall is a good idea, or against something measurable to a certain height.
I know my reach is 7'5" above me and I'm 1" from touching the rim on a basketball hoop.... therefore 9'9' (or 119 inches) minus 7'5" (or 89") = 30" vertical
With a run up though, or is this from standing start straight up?
On November 04 2011 11:00 Froadac wrote: Improvement
70kg Deadlift. 45kg bench 65kg squat
5:40 mile. Good god weight training is good for mile times.
Assuming your an endurance fiber oriented guy more speed makes it easier to run a faster time with less endurance. For instance, a guy with 50 second speed doesn't need anywhere near the strength that a guy with 65 second speed would need to run sub 5. As a general rule of thumb a person that isn't an extremely sprinter type can run a mile in laps of roughly 400m speed + 8-10 seconds. So a guy with 55 speed is going to have a hard time going much faster than 4:10 or so; any faster and it just becomes too maximal of endurance and becomes significantly more difficult to run relaxed.
Weight training depending on how you approach it should allow you to improve you raw speed and thus your quarter speed. More quarter speed = better mile time. Obviously the one caveat to weight training is that if your doing weight training at the expense of running that's generally not going to be worth it.
yeah general train of thought in studies i've read is that endurance athletes benefit from strength training way more than strength/power athletes benefit from endurance/cardio work
On November 03 2011 21:16 eshlow wrote: Against a wall is a good idea, or against something measurable to a certain height.
I know my reach is 7'5" above me and I'm 1" from touching the rim on a basketball hoop.... therefore 9'9' (or 119 inches) minus 7'5" (or 89") = 30" vertical
With a run up though, or is this from standing start straight up?
when I counted mine a few posts back, I did a standing jump - quick dip to the knees and then up, feet staying in place. I would assume Eshlow did the same, because that's usually how verticals are measured.
On November 03 2011 19:18 Zafrumi wrote: well you already have the lifter's bodyweight for each lift, so you can calculate that yourself.
I meant that below the leaderboard of overall weight lifted, we then have a leaderboard for x of bodyweight. Like a 155 lb guy bengkulu 245 would have a score of 1.69 x bodyweight which is pretty good.
And for the running ones, can we put the best we've ran in our lives, or do they need to be current? Cause I'm not in wrestling shape anymore hahaha
That said, in powerlifting they use wilks formula to compare lifters of different classes because it is easier for us small fellows to be stronger x bodyweight.
Please add new PR: BP 115kg x 1 :D (75kg)
Gonna quote myself to add the vid. The firt time I edited it lol.
I'm surprised how heavy most people in this thread are lifting compared to their body weight. I've been doing weight training 3-4 days a week for the past 18 months and my bench press is only 70kg x 8 reps. When I started weight training I was only benching around 40kg x 8. I weigh 85kg and am 187cm (6'2") tall.
Should my bench press be higher after 18 months and how long has everyone been lifting for?
I'm currently at 66kg x5 (5-5-5). 85kilo's, 6'5 and training for about four and a half months. I expect to hit the 70 mark in not too long though. I would say that bench should be higher after 18 months, yes.
On November 09 2011 17:46 SearingShadow wrote: I'm surprised how heavy most people in this thread are lifting compared to their body weight. I've been doing weight training 3-4 days a week for the past 18 months and my bench press is only 70kg x 8 reps. When I started weight training I was only benching around 40kg x 8. I weigh 85kg and am 187cm (6'2") tall.
Should my bench press be higher after 18 months and how long has everyone been lifting for?
What program did you follow?
For people on SS/SL, it shouldn't take that long to get 70kg bench. I can do 77kgx5 and I have a pretty average physique (5'11, 80kg) and I've been training for 3 months.
On November 09 2011 17:46 SearingShadow wrote: I'm surprised how heavy most people in this thread are lifting compared to their body weight. I've been doing weight training 3-4 days a week for the past 18 months and my bench press is only 70kg x 8 reps. When I started weight training I was only benching around 40kg x 8. I weigh 85kg and am 187cm (6'2") tall.
Should my bench press be higher after 18 months and how long has everyone been lifting for?
What program did you follow?
For people on SS/SL, it shouldn't take that long to get 70kg bench. I can do 77kgx5 and I have a pretty average physique (5'11, 80kg) and I've been training for 3 months.
This is my workout from a couple weeks ago. I'll do all of the following exercises if I have time. Takes just under two hours. I was looking at the SS and SL programs and they only do 3 activities per session and do squats every session. I almost never do squats.
On November 09 2011 17:46 SearingShadow wrote: I'm surprised how heavy most people in this thread are lifting compared to their body weight. I've been doing weight training 3-4 days a week for the past 18 months and my bench press is only 70kg x 8 reps. When I started weight training I was only benching around 40kg x 8. I weigh 85kg and am 187cm (6'2") tall.
Should my bench press be higher after 18 months and how long has everyone been lifting for?
What program did you follow?
For people on SS/SL, it shouldn't take that long to get 70kg bench. I can do 77kgx5 and I have a pretty average physique (5'11, 80kg) and I've been training for 3 months.
This is my workout from a couple weeks ago. I'll do all of the following exercises if I have time. Takes just under two hours. I was looking at the SS and SL programs and they only do 3 activities per session and do squats every session. I almost never do squats.
And that is your problem. By focusing on the big lifts they obviously increase faster and improve your physique on another level than compared to the average exercices like t-bar rows, db tricep extensions or bb curls.
What SS and SL make up for lesser exercices by progressively overloading the big three lifts, squats, deadlift and bench press. And that along with plenty of food and sleep will see your lifts go up fast.
Further discussion should take place in another thread, since this is the PR Board. But in short, your above workout certainly is not too bad. You didn't say if this is your only workout or if you alternate it with another one, but you have 3 presses and 3 pulls plus 1/1 arms, so at least it is balanced.
Your 70x8 Bench Press probably translates into at least 85-90kg for 1rep. which is around 1.25 BW, and therefore really not too bad. But since you are a fairly light lifter and you have done Bench Press for 18 months, it probably could be higher with a better programm, you should at least lift 100kg for one rep after this time in my opinion.
I don't wanna sound like a broken machine, but I want to emphasize that SS/SL is really as good as everyone is saying. And it is quite a culture shock when you have done a normal 3x8-12 gym-machines routine for so long. And for what it's worth, you can always add 1-2 assistance exercises after the 3 main lifts, if 3 lifts are not enough for you.
And I believe everyone should squat
As I said above, if you wanna discuss this any further, maybe ask in the Q&A thread, or simply write a PM or sth. I believe this thread should stay clean of discussions which could take place elsewhere and just focus on the numbers.
That's my short-term goal for now. I can only do 170 as my 1rm.
Idra didn't touch it to his chest.
That's true. There's dozen's of guys who do bench press in my gym and 99% of them don't touch their chests so that's just what I'm used to seeing. Ofc, I do touch my chest, it's how its done.
That's my short-term goal for now. I can only do 170 as my 1rm.
Idra didn't touch it to his chest.
That's true. There's dozen's of guys who do bench press in my gym and 99% of them don't touch their chests so that's just what I'm used to seeing. Ofc, I do touch my chest, it's how its done.
Squatting is far worse from what I've seen. I usually see guys with their knees past their feet and their hips not even getting close to a full range of motion. Then they brag about how much they put up with terrible form. But squats are actually fairly tough to do right, benching you have no excuse.
On November 27 2011 20:26 Cambium wrote: 170 Kg DL @ 77 Kg... getting close to 180.
Attempted 180 today since 170 felt so light, got the bar about 4 inches/ 10 cm off the ground, but it just would not come up...
I'll get there...
Keep going man. At this rate you'll catch up with my deadlift, which I just can't fucking let happen, so it'll also motivate me to deadlift hard and heavy . You in the race to 200kg?
Also, I PC and jerked 90kg on Friday! My Olympic weightlifting buddy was there and was really impressed with my overall form. I think I'm good for 100 by the end of the year.
Finally found my Squat and Bench 1rm's. Probably could have done more but ran out of time on bench and motivation on squats, I'll do press/DL on thursday.
Sorry for the delay, I will definitely finish tomorrow. I almost finished the other time, but please try to post all the info for the prs in this thread. Don't tell me to look for your info in other threads.
100kg backsquat 3x5!! That's +60kg in exactly four months (July 11 is when I started). Ass to Grass on every rep, no cheating either On four hours of sleep aswell. Now going to do some more academic work 87~ kilo bodyweight.
Here's to two plates
EDIT: DimSum please keep in mind that I AM BOUBOU.865. Therefore I won teh race. I own the Starcraft II acount BouBou aswell, I just can't retrieve my TL account, hence I'm using this one.
Guess I might aswell post my Deadlift PR from like 1.5 months ago, since I've reset it and I'm shifting my focus to weightloss for the next few months.
dont know how you guys are rounding kgs (those that work in pounds anyway) bodyweight is ~80kg back squat- 113.39 kg front squat - 81.64 deadlift - 129.27 bench - 81.64 ohp - 47.62
On December 27 2011 10:38 CluEleSs_UK wrote: Oh, and can we add Snatch Balance to the olympic lifting part? Strict snatch balance, rather than with a jump! I got 70kg
On January 01 2012 04:49 vicariouscheese wrote: would like to get on the list for motivations-
dont know how you guys are rounding kgs (those that work in pounds anyway) bodyweight is ~80kg back squat- 113.39 kg front squat - 81.64 deadlift - 129.27 bench - 81.64 ohp - 47.62
Work out in kilos Other than that i just round to the nearest kg
Damn! So close to triple bodyweight (and almost at my best DL).
I'm coming for you my friend! I had the objective to pull 3x BW by the end of 2011 but caught a cold 2 days prior to the lift. I felt a bit weak that day but I can't say I would've pulled 238Kg being healthy either. Nevertheless, I shall get 247Kg by april 1st and hopefully get 600lbs by the end of 2012.
Damn! So close to triple bodyweight (and almost at my best DL).
I'm coming for you my friend! I had the objective to pull 3x BW by the end of 2011 but caught a cold 2 days prior to the lift. I felt a bit weak that day but I can't say I would've pulled 238Kg being healthy either. Nevertheless, I shall get 247Kg by april 1st and hopefully get 600lbs by the end of 2012.
On December 27 2011 10:38 CluEleSs_UK wrote: Oh, and can we add Snatch Balance to the olympic lifting part? Strict snatch balance, rather than with a jump! I got 70kg
Do you mean drop snatch? i will add it
updated
Drop snatch tends to be with a jump. Snatch Balance is standing to full squat with the bar strict on the shoulders
Wow some bad 200m times, those are some girl times there. Might as well throw in my time from back in high school.
200m- 23.78 (bodyweight: 72kg)
I could probably put up a second place in the weighted pullups but 110lbs is a little out of reach, haha. Did bw+60lbsx3x5 a couple weeks ago so I figure I could probably get at least bw+80lbs.
edit: Also,
dips (reps) 25 (bodyweight: 80kg)
Just did those for fun the other day. No idea what I could get if I went all-out.
On February 02 2012 06:25 Uhh Negative wrote: Wow some bad 200m times, those are some girl times there.
dont be a douche, man
Not being a douche, just being truthful. 27-28s are practice pace times. I wasn't even near the best at 200m either. Competitive times in college are 21-22 and competitive times in high school were 22-24. I dunno now though, kids are probably running it faster now.
All I'm saying was I was expecting to see some faster times up there, that's all
On February 01 2012 02:52 Boblion wrote: Wtf people are so bad at pull-ups/chin-ups... Stop to lift weights guys :p
Can you do any better? Also, they are not the main focus of some lifters...
Yea i can do better for both chin/pull. It is just that i have almost 0 experience with weight lifting and the numbers here seemed pretty impressive to me. I expected something impressive for pull ups / chin ups too, like some TLers doing one arm pull ups or stuff like that. I wasn't really serious, i know that weightlifters don't train for this
I tried at one point to train for the one arm pull up but this is just too hard for me. I don't think you should even bother if you can't do 25+ pull ups with ease ( i can't )
No section for it, but my personal best for rowing 2k (standard format is drag factor ~135, on a Concept2 (ofc)), is 6 mins 14.2 secs. In perspective the heavyweight woman's world record is 6:28.4, mens is 5:36.6 but Rob Waddell is an unnatural monster.
On February 01 2012 02:52 Boblion wrote: Wtf people are so bad at pull-ups/chin-ups... Stop to lift weights guys :p
Can you do any better? Also, they are not the main focus of some lifters...
Yea i can do better for both chin/pull. It is just that i have almost 0 experience with weight lifting and the numbers here seemed pretty impressive to me. I expected something impressive for pull ups / chin ups too, like some TLers doing one arm pull ups or stuff like that. I wasn't really serious, i know that weightlifters don't train for this
I tried at one point to train for the one arm pull up but this is just too hard for me. I don't think you should even bother if you can't do 25+ pull ups with ease ( i can't )
All the people I know who are good at pull ups don't do weights. They're just really light. One of my friends does judo only and is insane at them. I think the weight training most people do will just add muscle bulk (especially in places like legs, glutes etc) which will just be extra dead weight when doing a pull up.
On February 01 2012 02:52 Boblion wrote: Wtf people are so bad at pull-ups/chin-ups... Stop to lift weights guys :p
Can you do any better? Also, they are not the main focus of some lifters...
Yea i can do better for both chin/pull. It is just that i have almost 0 experience with weight lifting and the numbers here seemed pretty impressive to me. I expected something impressive for pull ups / chin ups too, like some TLers doing one arm pull ups or stuff like that. I wasn't really serious, i know that weightlifters don't train for this
I tried at one point to train for the one arm pull up but this is just too hard for me. I don't think you should even bother if you can't do 25+ pull ups with ease ( i can't )
You can do 20 dead hang pull ups and 30kg weighted pull ups with zero training? I find that hard to believe...
And eshlow posted a video of him doing 1 arm chin-ups some time ago.
Haven't ran competitivly since Freshman year of college (2009), but might as well throw up some bragging rights for top 3's ^^... 52kg 100m - 12.2 400m - 54.3 800m - 2:04 1600m - 4:40 3200m - 10:24 5k - 17:02
On February 23 2012 15:25 thedeadhaji wrote: I'm looking at Dimsum vs Sjarl's race to 200kg backsquat and thinking... "wtf Sjarl weighs 30kgs more than Dimsum, how is this even a fair race, lol"
On February 01 2012 02:52 Boblion wrote: Wtf people are so bad at pull-ups/chin-ups... Stop to lift weights guys :p
Can you do any better? Also, they are not the main focus of some lifters...
Yea i can do better for both chin/pull. It is just that i have almost 0 experience with weight lifting and the numbers here seemed pretty impressive to me. I expected something impressive for pull ups / chin ups too, like some TLers doing one arm pull ups or stuff like that. I wasn't really serious, i know that weightlifters don't train for this
I tried at one point to train for the one arm pull up but this is just too hard for me. I don't think you should even bother if you can't do 25+ pull ups with ease ( i can't )
You can do 20 dead hang pull ups and 30kg weighted pull ups with zero training? I find that hard to believe...
And eshlow posted a video of him doing 1 arm chin-ups some time ago.
Who said with zero training ? o,o Never tried weighted btw.
On February 02 2012 14:05 Boblion wrote: I tried at one point to train for the one arm pull up but this is just too hard for me. I don't think you should even bother if you can't do 25+ pull ups with ease ( i can't )
Doing 25+ pull ups is gonna make it more difficult to do a one arm pull up because 25+ reps in one set is training for endurance, not strength. You'd be better off keeping reps at 10 and under and increasing weight.
Anyway eshlow has 4 one arm chin ups for each arm. I doubt he ever trained specifically for one arm pull ups... he was probably doing some other exercise for those muscles. And 32kg rings muscle up is pretty sick
On February 02 2012 14:05 Boblion wrote: I tried at one point to train for the one arm pull up but this is just too hard for me. I don't think you should even bother if you can't do 25+ pull ups with ease ( i can't )
Doing 25+ pull ups is gonna make it more difficult to do a one arm pull up because 25+ reps in one set is training for endurance, not strength. You'd be better off keeping reps at 10 and under and increasing weight.
Anyway eshlow has 4 one arm chin ups for each arm. I doubt he ever trained specifically for one arm pull ups... he was probably doing some other exercise for those muscles. And 32kg rings muscle up is pretty sick
It took me about 6 weeks of OAC training to get a OAC so yes, I was pretty strong before I started.
But yeah, need to train for strength instead of endurance to get this... and it takes a lot of time and commitment!
On February 01 2012 02:52 Boblion wrote: Wtf people are so bad at pull-ups/chin-ups... Stop to lift weights guys :p
Can you do any better? Also, they are not the main focus of some lifters...
Yea i can do better for both chin/pull. It is just that i have almost 0 experience with weight lifting and the numbers here seemed pretty impressive to me. I expected something impressive for pull ups / chin ups too, like some TLers doing one arm pull ups or stuff like that. I wasn't really serious, i know that weightlifters don't train for this
I tried at one point to train for the one arm pull up but this is just too hard for me. I don't think you should even bother if you can't do 25+ pull ups with ease ( i can't )
You can do 20 dead hang pull ups and 30kg weighted pull ups with zero training? I find that hard to believe...
And eshlow posted a video of him doing 1 arm chin-ups some time ago.
Who said with zero training ? o,o Never tried weighted btw.
Well to me, chins/pulls are weight lifting so I misunderstood you. Afaik, nobody here does chin/pull endurance training. Most people move to weighted because it's better for strength/size gains.
If you are actually doing dead hang chins/pulls, then I suggest you post your numbers here instead of vaguely saying you can do better.
On February 02 2012 14:05 Boblion wrote: I tried at one point to train for the one arm pull up but this is just too hard for me. I don't think you should even bother if you can't do 25+ pull ups with ease ( i can't )
Doing 25+ pull ups is gonna make it more difficult to do a one arm pull up because 25+ reps in one set is training for endurance, not strength. You'd be better off keeping reps at 10 and under and increasing weight.
Anyway eshlow has 4 one arm chin ups for each arm. I doubt he ever trained specifically for one arm pull ups... he was probably doing some other exercise for those muscles. And 32kg rings muscle up is pretty sick
It took me about 6 weeks of OAC training to get a OAC so yes, I was pretty strong before I started.
But yeah, need to train for strength instead of endurance to get this... and it takes a lot of time and commitment!
To do the weighted pull ups what kind of setting you use ? A backpack full of weights?
I really don't want to get injured because i often get tendinitis in the elbow (pull ups + badminton isn't good) and i'm not too confident about my back if i try to do this kind of exercice lol.
On February 01 2012 02:52 Boblion wrote: Wtf people are so bad at pull-ups/chin-ups... Stop to lift weights guys :p
Can you do any better? Also, they are not the main focus of some lifters...
Yea i can do better for both chin/pull. It is just that i have almost 0 experience with weight lifting and the numbers here seemed pretty impressive to me. I expected something impressive for pull ups / chin ups too, like some TLers doing one arm pull ups or stuff like that. I wasn't really serious, i know that weightlifters don't train for this
I tried at one point to train for the one arm pull up but this is just too hard for me. I don't think you should even bother if you can't do 25+ pull ups with ease ( i can't )
You can do 20 dead hang pull ups and 30kg weighted pull ups with zero training? I find that hard to believe...
And eshlow posted a video of him doing 1 arm chin-ups some time ago.
Who said with zero training ? o,o Never tried weighted btw.
Well to me, chins/pulls are weight lifting so I misunderstood you. Afaik, nobody here does chin/pull endurance training. Most people move to weighted because it's better for strength/size gains.
If you are actually doing dead hang chins/pulls, then I suggest you post your numbers here instead of vaguely saying you can do better.
Last time i practiced a bit i could do 20 pull ups and 25 chin ups it was like two years ago, then i stopped ( tendinitis ). Been trying again since last week doing 5-10 series. I'm kinda rusty and since i don't want to get injured i take my time. I have cracking joints in the elbows and i don't like it too much.
Idk what challenge i could do to get some motivation. I kinda feel that i will get a tendinitis at some point anyway >.< I will probably try something like 25 pull ups and 30 chin ups and 15Kg weigthed.
Just tried with 5Kg it is quite harder, must be a complete nightmare with 35Kg lol :p
On February 02 2012 14:05 Boblion wrote: I tried at one point to train for the one arm pull up but this is just too hard for me. I don't think you should even bother if you can't do 25+ pull ups with ease ( i can't )
Doing 25+ pull ups is gonna make it more difficult to do a one arm pull up because 25+ reps in one set is training for endurance, not strength. You'd be better off keeping reps at 10 and under and increasing weight.
Anyway eshlow has 4 one arm chin ups for each arm. I doubt he ever trained specifically for one arm pull ups... he was probably doing some other exercise for those muscles. And 32kg rings muscle up is pretty sick
It took me about 6 weeks of OAC training to get a OAC so yes, I was pretty strong before I started.
But yeah, need to train for strength instead of endurance to get this... and it takes a lot of time and commitment!
To do the weighted pull ups what kind of setting you use ? A backpack full of weights?
I really don't want to get injured because i often get tendinitis in the elbow (pull ups + badminton isn't good) and i'm not too confident about my back if i try to do this kind of exercice lol.
On February 01 2012 02:52 Boblion wrote: Wtf people are so bad at pull-ups/chin-ups... Stop to lift weights guys :p
Can you do any better? Also, they are not the main focus of some lifters...
Yea i can do better for both chin/pull. It is just that i have almost 0 experience with weight lifting and the numbers here seemed pretty impressive to me. I expected something impressive for pull ups / chin ups too, like some TLers doing one arm pull ups or stuff like that. I wasn't really serious, i know that weightlifters don't train for this
I tried at one point to train for the one arm pull up but this is just too hard for me. I don't think you should even bother if you can't do 25+ pull ups with ease ( i can't )
You can do 20 dead hang pull ups and 30kg weighted pull ups with zero training? I find that hard to believe...
And eshlow posted a video of him doing 1 arm chin-ups some time ago.
Who said with zero training ? o,o Never tried weighted btw.
Well to me, chins/pulls are weight lifting so I misunderstood you. Afaik, nobody here does chin/pull endurance training. Most people move to weighted because it's better for strength/size gains.
If you are actually doing dead hang chins/pulls, then I suggest you post your numbers here instead of vaguely saying you can do better.
Last time i practiced a bit i could do 20 pull ups and 25 chin ups it was like two years ago, then i stopped ( tendinitis ). Been trying again since last week doing 5-10 series. I'm kinda rusty and since i don't want to get injured i take my time. I have cracking joints in the elbows and i don't like it too much.
Idk what challenge i could do to get some motivation. I kinda feel that i will get a tendinitis at some point anyway >.< I will probably try something like 25 pull ups and 30 chin ups and 15Kg weigthed.
Just tried with 5Kg it is quite harder, must be a complete nightmare with 35Kg lol :p
Weighed pullups you can use many different implements... weight belt, backpack with weights, weight vest, etc.
Or you can train it with assisted positives or one arm negatives.
Tendonitis is an issue if you don't do mobility work and/or soft tissue and do too much volume for the most part. But it can be remedied
On February 01 2012 02:52 Boblion wrote: Wtf people are so bad at pull-ups/chin-ups... Stop to lift weights guys :p
Can you do any better? Also, they are not the main focus of some lifters...
Yea i can do better for both chin/pull. It is just that i have almost 0 experience with weight lifting and the numbers here seemed pretty impressive to me. I expected something impressive for pull ups / chin ups too, like some TLers doing one arm pull ups or stuff like that. I wasn't really serious, i know that weightlifters don't train for this
I tried at one point to train for the one arm pull up but this is just too hard for me. I don't think you should even bother if you can't do 25+ pull ups with ease ( i can't )
You can do 20 dead hang pull ups and 30kg weighted pull ups with zero training? I find that hard to believe...
And eshlow posted a video of him doing 1 arm chin-ups some time ago.
Who said with zero training ? o,o Never tried weighted btw.
Well to me, chins/pulls are weight lifting so I misunderstood you. Afaik, nobody here does chin/pull endurance training. Most people move to weighted because it's better for strength/size gains.
If you are actually doing dead hang chins/pulls, then I suggest you post your numbers here instead of vaguely saying you can do better.
Last time i practiced a bit i could do 20 pull ups and 25 chin ups it was like two years ago, then i stopped ( tendinitis ). Been trying again since last week doing 5-10 series. I'm kinda rusty and since i don't want to get injured i take my time. I have cracking joints in the elbows and i don't like it too much.
Idk what challenge i could do to get some motivation. I kinda feel that i will get a tendinitis at some point anyway >.< I will probably try something like 25 pull ups and 30 chin ups and 15Kg weigthed.
Just tried with 5Kg it is quite harder, must be a complete nightmare with 35Kg lol :p
Hopefully now you can see why I was very skeptical of your claim initially lol I'd say work on weighted chin-ups for sets of 5 so you can keep the volume low while making good strength gains.
Just broke my PR in the 3200m :D 11:59. Is the 3200m a Texas thing? There's no one else in the catagory for it. Or American I suppose because no one else has a reason to run a 2 mile race?
On March 04 2012 02:24 mavsfan0041 wrote: Just broke my PR in the 3200m :D 11:59. Is the 3200m a Texas thing? There's no one else in the catagory for it. Or American I suppose because no one else has a reason to run a 2 mile race?
Generally, the 3200 is for high school dudes and it switches to 3000 from college to pro levels.
man i'd have to do some digging to find my records but the only meaningful PR i have is a 17:47 5k. I was in HS so probably ~70 kg or a little heavier.
On March 05 2012 09:14 Ozarugold wrote: A person could have a 1 inch box jump and they'd be ranked second behind eshlow. Interesting... + Show Spoiler +
Well, that shouldn't discourage you from testing it. Will prolly do it myself tonight.
On March 05 2012 09:14 Ozarugold wrote: A person could have a 1 inch box jump and they'd be ranked second behind eshlow. Interesting... + Show Spoiler +
Well, that shouldn't discourage you from testing it. Will prolly do it myself tonight.
I know, I think I'm going to try some of the bodyweight ones tonight, I'm getting excited :D
Edit: So just went for the 100 pushup timed while at work hehe. I couldn't get past 94 without there being a legitmate break. (2:03 when I quit though)
I've been doing SS for almost exactly six months (if you exclude a month in the middle where I couldn't do anything), so I thought it was about time to post an update. Six months ago I had never been in a gym in my life, and I hadn't exercised in 6 or 7 years, so I was very weak:
*The dips in the graph are either from resetting or from small back injuries. If they coincide with a deadlift dip, it's because of an injury.
*I used to log press as military press, so the graph doesn't cover my first few sessions.
*This includes all the sets, not just the max, as that is more informative. Also note that I excluded the first few sessions, as I was doing half pull-ups then, not proper pull-ups. From 9 March the sets of 5 are weighted, but the graph doesn't show the weight.
On April 16 2012 01:23 Daigomi wrote: I've been doing SS for almost exactly six months (if you exclude a month in the middle where I couldn't do anything), so I thought it was about time to post an update. Six months ago I had never been in a gym in my life, and I hadn't exercised in 6 or 7 years, so I was very weak:
*The dips in the graph are either from resetting or from small back injuries. If they coincide with a deadlift dip, it's because of an injury.
*I used to log press as military press, so the graph doesn't cover my first few sessions.
*This includes all the sets, not just the max, as that is more informative. Also note that I excluded the first few sessions, as I was doing half pull-ups then, not proper pull-ups. From 9 March the sets of 5 are weighted, but the graph doesn't show the weight.
Thats pretty sick improvement, gz! and also only 1kg added in bodyweight must feel awesome, which means you've gotten more muscles and less fat :D
On April 16 2012 01:23 Daigomi wrote: I've been doing SS for almost exactly six months (if you exclude a month in the middle where I couldn't do anything), so I thought it was about time to post an update. Six months ago I had never been in a gym in my life, and I hadn't exercised in 6 or 7 years, so I was very weak:
*The dips in the graph are either from resetting or from small back injuries. If they coincide with a deadlift dip, it's because of an injury.
*I used to log press as military press, so the graph doesn't cover my first few sessions.
*This includes all the sets, not just the max, as that is more informative. Also note that I excluded the first few sessions, as I was doing half pull-ups then, not proper pull-ups. From 9 March the sets of 5 are weighted, but the graph doesn't show the weight.
Thats pretty sick improvement, gz! and also only 1kg added in bodyweight must feel awesome, which means you've gotten more muscles and less fat :D
Haha thanks. Body composition has definitely improved a ton, but there's still a lot of work to be done. I'm hoping to lose another 2kg's and increase all my lifts by about 15% in the next 3 months. I'll have to see how that goes
Haha, I'm not big on photos but I'll try to get a reasonable shot next time I'm on holiday (the one time when its impossible to avoid getting your photo taken).
On April 16 2012 01:23 Daigomi wrote: I've been doing SS for almost exactly six months (if you exclude a month in the middle where I couldn't do anything), so I thought it was about time to post an update. Six months ago I had never been in a gym in my life, and I hadn't exercised in 6 or 7 years, so I was very weak:
*The dips in the graph are either from resetting or from small back injuries. If they coincide with a deadlift dip, it's because of an injury.
*I used to log press as military press, so the graph doesn't cover my first few sessions.
*This includes all the sets, not just the max, as that is more informative. Also note that I excluded the first few sessions, as I was doing half pull-ups then, not proper pull-ups. From 9 March the sets of 5 are weighted, but the graph doesn't show the weight.
Beast progress, you're quite a bit stronger than me already I'm workin' on it though!
EDIT: You put me on as both a 4:56.32 1500m and 1600m. As cool as it would be to run 100m instantly....I think it is beyond me.
I'd say put me down for 1500m only, as even though 5:18ish is an equivalent mile I didn't run the full distance and wouldn't fee;l right counting it for that distance.
On June 13 2012 18:03 mokuso wrote: Bodyweight: 89 kg Backsquat: 140.5 kg Bench Press: 120.5 kg Barbell Row: 103 kg Overhead Press: 78 kg Deadlift: 158 kg Frontsquat: 88 kg
Those are all my goals for the end of the summer! Nice!
77kg snatch ~ (3 very close attempts on 5kg PR) 95kg cj ~ (bodyweight! =D) 120kg fs ~5kg PR @95kg bodyweight Also did a 103kg clean a few weeks ago. (current best)
very good day for me~ Not amazing numbers by any measure, but I'm happy.
I'm always surprised at how low your deadlift is relative to your other lifts :p I'm 90% sure I could deadlift 175-180kg 1RM while my 1RM squat would be closer to 150kg, and I feel like my deadlift is weak compared with my squat.
Anyway, since everyone else is updating their lifts:
On July 17 2012 05:05 decafchicken wrote: Lol what kind of injury let's you hang clean but not full clean!
Idk, I'd love to know exactly what it is lol Had a herniated disc back in Jan and it comes and goes but that seems to have healed 80%. I'm thinking I also injured my SI joint so I tried some stretches to fix it today but not sure if it helped. It sure didn't hurt me since I got a 20 lb PR on hang clean haha
The only movement I can't even do light weights on is DL so any pulling movement from the floor hurts me. Last time I tried, my back gave up at 155lb
On July 17 2012 09:25 decafchicken wrote: Gotta pop that shit in place and then roll/massage/loosen the muscles like twice a day if you want to clear it up. also, chug fish oil :D
Ya gonna try to do the movements posted on eshlow's website, roll/stretch and do core strengthening exercises daily to see if that helps.
On July 17 2012 09:25 decafchicken wrote: Gotta pop that shit in place and then roll/massage/loosen the muscles like twice a day if you want to clear it up. also, chug fish oil :D
Ya gonna try to do the movements posted on eshlow's website, roll/stretch and do core strengthening exercises daily to see if that helps.
When I had SI joint stuff going on the chiro recommended knee to same shoulder, knee to opposite shoulder, than the figure 4 one (cross leg over other thigh reach through and pull not crossed leg towards your chest) Helped whenever I felt it was acting up. He recommended doing it up waking and going to sleep.
I'll post my running PR's since it will be a while until I break them again. They were done during the height of my cross country training senior year, and it would take a ton of effort to get in that kind of shape again. I'm going to try and break under a 5 min mile when I turn 30, since I've heard that is when your body would be in peak running form. Until then:
body weight - 68kg 1600m - 5:02 5000m - 17:40
Once I get back to school, and back in the gym, I'll post some weight lifting maxes
On July 18 2012 13:16 itkovian wrote: I'll post my running PR's since it will be a while until I break them again. They were done during the height of my cross country training senior year, and it would take a ton of effort to get in that kind of shape again. I'm going to try and break under a 5 min mile when I turn 30, since I've heard that is when your body would be in peak running form. Until then:
body weight - 68kg 1600m - 5:02 5000m - 17:40
Once I get back to school, and back in the gym, I'll post some weight lifting maxes
It's more about how long you've been in the running game than how old you are. At 30 most people can still perform at very high levels but it's generally for the longer distances not shorter. It's definitely not a magic age where you become a good runner automatically. That being said, why wait to try to reach your goal?
On July 18 2012 13:16 itkovian wrote: I'll post my running PR's since it will be a while until I break them again. They were done during the height of my cross country training senior year, and it would take a ton of effort to get in that kind of shape again. I'm going to try and break under a 5 min mile when I turn 30, since I've heard that is when your body would be in peak running form. Until then:
body weight - 68kg 1600m - 5:02 5000m - 17:40
Once I get back to school, and back in the gym, I'll post some weight lifting maxes
It's more about how long you've been in the running game than how old you are. At 30 most people can still perform at very high levels but it's generally for the longer distances not shorter. It's definitely not a magic age where you become a good runner automatically. That being said, why wait to try to reach your goal?
Based on that you have already done 5:02 off of HS training there is little doubt you could go much better than 5:00 with more training. Yes, there is little reason to think you can't go break 5 at 30, since you clearly have the talent to do so.
However, waiting that long is only going to make it harder. You'll be even more years removed from serious running, and you'll already be approaching that age at which speed starts to deteriorate. It's usually in the early to mid 30's that you see 1500m guys that used to be great in that event moving up to the 5K cause they no longer have the wheels to be top notch 1500m competitors. Same with 5k guys and 10k guys moving up. The reason most people are near their peak in their very late twenties or very early thirties is not because it's their bodies physical peak, which is probably more like early/mid 20's, but because they are reaching 10+ years of serious, diligent training and are maxing out their capabilities as a runner. A runner starting from nothing at 23 is much more likely to be a better runner than his equivalent starting out at 30.
On July 18 2012 13:16 itkovian wrote: I'll post my running PR's since it will be a while until I break them again. They were done during the height of my cross country training senior year, and it would take a ton of effort to get in that kind of shape again. I'm going to try and break under a 5 min mile when I turn 30, since I've heard that is when your body would be in peak running form. Until then:
body weight - 68kg 1600m - 5:02 5000m - 17:40
Once I get back to school, and back in the gym, I'll post some weight lifting maxes
It's more about how long you've been in the running game than how old you are. At 30 most people can still perform at very high levels but it's generally for the longer distances not shorter. It's definitely not a magic age where you become a good runner automatically. That being said, why wait to try to reach your goal?
Based on that you have already done 5:02 off of HS training there is little doubt you could go much better than 5:00 with more training. Yes, there is little reason to think you can't go break 5 at 30, since you clearly have the talent to do so.
However, waiting that long is only going to make it harder. You'll be even more years removed from serious running, and you'll already be approaching that age at which speed starts to deteriorate. It's usually in the early to mid 30's that you see 1500m guys that used to be great in that event moving up to the 5K cause they no longer have the wheels to be top notch 1500m competitors. Same with 5k guys and 10k guys moving up. The reason most people are near their peak in their very late twenties or very early thirties is not because it's their bodies physical peak, which is probably more like early/mid 20's, but because they are reaching 10+ years of serious, diligent training and are maxing out their capabilities as a runner. A runner starting from nothing at 23 is much more likely to be a better runner than his equivalent starting out at 30.
Hmm, thanks for the info. I guess I know I can break 5:00 with more training, I always just figured 30 was the optimum time to do it. After XC season was done in HS, I switched my focus to soccer in the spring, so I knew if I wanted to break five I'd have to train for it later. I saw 30 as an age where I would have to work the least hard to accomplish breaking it, but now I see that's probably not true.
Recently I've been thinking about doing serious running again. (I'm only 20, so waiting ten years would be a little overkill haha) But I've been afraid that if I start training to break 5:00 I will have to give it my full physical effort, meaning I'd have to stop training upper body seriously for a few months. And right now, my upper body has been more of a priority for me
On July 18 2012 13:16 itkovian wrote: I'll post my running PR's since it will be a while until I break them again. They were done during the height of my cross country training senior year, and it would take a ton of effort to get in that kind of shape again. I'm going to try and break under a 5 min mile when I turn 30, since I've heard that is when your body would be in peak running form. Until then:
body weight - 68kg 1600m - 5:02 5000m - 17:40
Once I get back to school, and back in the gym, I'll post some weight lifting maxes
It's more about how long you've been in the running game than how old you are. At 30 most people can still perform at very high levels but it's generally for the longer distances not shorter. It's definitely not a magic age where you become a good runner automatically. That being said, why wait to try to reach your goal?
Based on that you have already done 5:02 off of HS training there is little doubt you could go much better than 5:00 with more training. Yes, there is little reason to think you can't go break 5 at 30, since you clearly have the talent to do so.
However, waiting that long is only going to make it harder. You'll be even more years removed from serious running, and you'll already be approaching that age at which speed starts to deteriorate. It's usually in the early to mid 30's that you see 1500m guys that used to be great in that event moving up to the 5K cause they no longer have the wheels to be top notch 1500m competitors. Same with 5k guys and 10k guys moving up. The reason most people are near their peak in their very late twenties or very early thirties is not because it's their bodies physical peak, which is probably more like early/mid 20's, but because they are reaching 10+ years of serious, diligent training and are maxing out their capabilities as a runner. A runner starting from nothing at 23 is much more likely to be a better runner than his equivalent starting out at 30.
Hmm, thanks for the info. I guess I know I can break 5:00 with more training, I always just figured 30 was the optimum time to do it. After XC season was done in HS, I switched my focus to soccer in the spring, so I knew if I wanted to break five I'd have to train for it later. I saw 30 as an age where I would have to work the least hard to accomplish breaking it, but now I see that's probably not true.
Recently I've been thinking about doing serious running again. (I'm only 20, so waiting ten years would be a little overkill haha) But I've been afraid that if I start training to break 5:00 I will have to give it my full physical effort, meaning I'd have to stop training upper body seriously for a few months. And right now, my upper body has been more of a priority for me
Why would you need to stop the weight training? Unless it's a time issue it shouldn't be any problem to do some weight training and running at the same time, I know I had no problem mixing the two at the various points where I have done decent strength training. If your running a ton and not dramatically upping the eating you might not gain as much mass as your shooting for but it's definitely possible to do strength work and still run seriously/competitively.
On July 18 2012 13:16 itkovian wrote: I'll post my running PR's since it will be a while until I break them again. They were done during the height of my cross country training senior year, and it would take a ton of effort to get in that kind of shape again. I'm going to try and break under a 5 min mile when I turn 30, since I've heard that is when your body would be in peak running form. Until then:
body weight - 68kg 1600m - 5:02 5000m - 17:40
Once I get back to school, and back in the gym, I'll post some weight lifting maxes
It's more about how long you've been in the running game than how old you are. At 30 most people can still perform at very high levels but it's generally for the longer distances not shorter. It's definitely not a magic age where you become a good runner automatically. That being said, why wait to try to reach your goal?
Based on that you have already done 5:02 off of HS training there is little doubt you could go much better than 5:00 with more training. Yes, there is little reason to think you can't go break 5 at 30, since you clearly have the talent to do so.
However, waiting that long is only going to make it harder. You'll be even more years removed from serious running, and you'll already be approaching that age at which speed starts to deteriorate. It's usually in the early to mid 30's that you see 1500m guys that used to be great in that event moving up to the 5K cause they no longer have the wheels to be top notch 1500m competitors. Same with 5k guys and 10k guys moving up. The reason most people are near their peak in their very late twenties or very early thirties is not because it's their bodies physical peak, which is probably more like early/mid 20's, but because they are reaching 10+ years of serious, diligent training and are maxing out their capabilities as a runner. A runner starting from nothing at 23 is much more likely to be a better runner than his equivalent starting out at 30.
Hmm, thanks for the info. I guess I know I can break 5:00 with more training, I always just figured 30 was the optimum time to do it. After XC season was done in HS, I switched my focus to soccer in the spring, so I knew if I wanted to break five I'd have to train for it later. I saw 30 as an age where I would have to work the least hard to accomplish breaking it, but now I see that's probably not true.
Recently I've been thinking about doing serious running again. (I'm only 20, so waiting ten years would be a little overkill haha) But I've been afraid that if I start training to break 5:00 I will have to give it my full physical effort, meaning I'd have to stop training upper body seriously for a few months. And right now, my upper body has been more of a priority for me
Why would you need to stop the weight training? Unless it's a time issue it shouldn't be any problem to do some weight training and running at the same time, I know I had no problem mixing the two at the various points where I have done decent strength training. If your running a ton and not dramatically upping the eating you might not gain as much mass as your shooting for but it's definitely possible to do strength work and still run seriously/competitively.
Yeah it would mostly be a time issue. As it is now, I run every fourth day in my workout routine. If I wanted to break five I'd assume I should be running every day. And if I did that I would have to run in the morning and lift in the afternoon or vice-versa, which would end up being too much work for me at the moment. At least, that's what I'd imagine I'd end up doing. I've been under the impression its bad to lift weights and run immediately afterwards, so I would want to split them on different ends of the day. But maybe I've heard wrong... is it bad to do one after the other?
On July 18 2012 13:16 itkovian wrote: I'll post my running PR's since it will be a while until I break them again. They were done during the height of my cross country training senior year, and it would take a ton of effort to get in that kind of shape again. I'm going to try and break under a 5 min mile when I turn 30, since I've heard that is when your body would be in peak running form. Until then:
body weight - 68kg 1600m - 5:02 5000m - 17:40
Once I get back to school, and back in the gym, I'll post some weight lifting maxes
It's more about how long you've been in the running game than how old you are. At 30 most people can still perform at very high levels but it's generally for the longer distances not shorter. It's definitely not a magic age where you become a good runner automatically. That being said, why wait to try to reach your goal?
Based on that you have already done 5:02 off of HS training there is little doubt you could go much better than 5:00 with more training. Yes, there is little reason to think you can't go break 5 at 30, since you clearly have the talent to do so.
However, waiting that long is only going to make it harder. You'll be even more years removed from serious running, and you'll already be approaching that age at which speed starts to deteriorate. It's usually in the early to mid 30's that you see 1500m guys that used to be great in that event moving up to the 5K cause they no longer have the wheels to be top notch 1500m competitors. Same with 5k guys and 10k guys moving up. The reason most people are near their peak in their very late twenties or very early thirties is not because it's their bodies physical peak, which is probably more like early/mid 20's, but because they are reaching 10+ years of serious, diligent training and are maxing out their capabilities as a runner. A runner starting from nothing at 23 is much more likely to be a better runner than his equivalent starting out at 30.
Hmm, thanks for the info. I guess I know I can break 5:00 with more training, I always just figured 30 was the optimum time to do it. After XC season was done in HS, I switched my focus to soccer in the spring, so I knew if I wanted to break five I'd have to train for it later. I saw 30 as an age where I would have to work the least hard to accomplish breaking it, but now I see that's probably not true.
Recently I've been thinking about doing serious running again. (I'm only 20, so waiting ten years would be a little overkill haha) But I've been afraid that if I start training to break 5:00 I will have to give it my full physical effort, meaning I'd have to stop training upper body seriously for a few months. And right now, my upper body has been more of a priority for me
Why would you need to stop the weight training? Unless it's a time issue it shouldn't be any problem to do some weight training and running at the same time, I know I had no problem mixing the two at the various points where I have done decent strength training. If your running a ton and not dramatically upping the eating you might not gain as much mass as your shooting for but it's definitely possible to do strength work and still run seriously/competitively.
Yeah it would mostly be a time issue. As it is now, I run every fourth day in my workout routine. If I wanted to break five I'd assume I should be running every day. And if I did that I would have to run in the morning and lift in the afternoon or vice-versa, which would end up being too much work for me at the moment. At least, that's what I'd imagine I'd end up doing. I've been under the impression its bad to lift weights and run immediately afterwards, so I would want to split them on different ends of the day. But maybe I've heard wrong... is it bad to do one after the other?
Whether you run or lift first really depends on your priorities. Doing both can be done but you probably won't be able to do both as well as you could if you focused more on one. They don't necessarily negatively impact each other but you just can't concentrate on both 100%. Do you prioritize one goal over the other? How much time and effort are you putting into lifting? Maybe alternate running before then after and see what is better for you.
On July 18 2012 13:16 itkovian wrote: I'll post my running PR's since it will be a while until I break them again. They were done during the height of my cross country training senior year, and it would take a ton of effort to get in that kind of shape again. I'm going to try and break under a 5 min mile when I turn 30, since I've heard that is when your body would be in peak running form. Until then:
body weight - 68kg 1600m - 5:02 5000m - 17:40
Once I get back to school, and back in the gym, I'll post some weight lifting maxes
It's more about how long you've been in the running game than how old you are. At 30 most people can still perform at very high levels but it's generally for the longer distances not shorter. It's definitely not a magic age where you become a good runner automatically. That being said, why wait to try to reach your goal?
Based on that you have already done 5:02 off of HS training there is little doubt you could go much better than 5:00 with more training. Yes, there is little reason to think you can't go break 5 at 30, since you clearly have the talent to do so.
However, waiting that long is only going to make it harder. You'll be even more years removed from serious running, and you'll already be approaching that age at which speed starts to deteriorate. It's usually in the early to mid 30's that you see 1500m guys that used to be great in that event moving up to the 5K cause they no longer have the wheels to be top notch 1500m competitors. Same with 5k guys and 10k guys moving up. The reason most people are near their peak in their very late twenties or very early thirties is not because it's their bodies physical peak, which is probably more like early/mid 20's, but because they are reaching 10+ years of serious, diligent training and are maxing out their capabilities as a runner. A runner starting from nothing at 23 is much more likely to be a better runner than his equivalent starting out at 30.
Hmm, thanks for the info. I guess I know I can break 5:00 with more training, I always just figured 30 was the optimum time to do it. After XC season was done in HS, I switched my focus to soccer in the spring, so I knew if I wanted to break five I'd have to train for it later. I saw 30 as an age where I would have to work the least hard to accomplish breaking it, but now I see that's probably not true.
Recently I've been thinking about doing serious running again. (I'm only 20, so waiting ten years would be a little overkill haha) But I've been afraid that if I start training to break 5:00 I will have to give it my full physical effort, meaning I'd have to stop training upper body seriously for a few months. And right now, my upper body has been more of a priority for me
Why would you need to stop the weight training? Unless it's a time issue it shouldn't be any problem to do some weight training and running at the same time, I know I had no problem mixing the two at the various points where I have done decent strength training. If your running a ton and not dramatically upping the eating you might not gain as much mass as your shooting for but it's definitely possible to do strength work and still run seriously/competitively.
Yeah it would mostly be a time issue. As it is now, I run every fourth day in my workout routine. If I wanted to break five I'd assume I should be running every day. And if I did that I would have to run in the morning and lift in the afternoon or vice-versa, which would end up being too much work for me at the moment. At least, that's what I'd imagine I'd end up doing. I've been under the impression its bad to lift weights and run immediately afterwards, so I would want to split them on different ends of the day. But maybe I've heard wrong... is it bad to do one after the other?
Whether you run or lift first really depends on your priorities. Doing both can be done but you probably won't be able to do both as well as you could if you focused more on one. They don't necessarily negatively impact each other but you just can't concentrate on both 100%. Do you prioritize one goal over the other? How much time and effort are you putting into lifting? Maybe alternate running before then after and see what is better for you.
Right now I prioritize upper body over lower, and it while probably stay that way for a while. I would run after I lift, i'm just worried it would slow down my recovery for upper body. Since I've heard you want to take protein within ten minutes of lifting, and that wouldn't work if I ran for ten or twenty minutes afterwards. Also, wouldn't I be essentially splitting my nutrient resources between recovering both my lower and upper body? Making my recovery slower?
On July 18 2012 13:16 itkovian wrote: I'll post my running PR's since it will be a while until I break them again. They were done during the height of my cross country training senior year, and it would take a ton of effort to get in that kind of shape again. I'm going to try and break under a 5 min mile when I turn 30, since I've heard that is when your body would be in peak running form. Until then:
body weight - 68kg 1600m - 5:02 5000m - 17:40
Once I get back to school, and back in the gym, I'll post some weight lifting maxes
It's more about how long you've been in the running game than how old you are. At 30 most people can still perform at very high levels but it's generally for the longer distances not shorter. It's definitely not a magic age where you become a good runner automatically. That being said, why wait to try to reach your goal?
Based on that you have already done 5:02 off of HS training there is little doubt you could go much better than 5:00 with more training. Yes, there is little reason to think you can't go break 5 at 30, since you clearly have the talent to do so.
However, waiting that long is only going to make it harder. You'll be even more years removed from serious running, and you'll already be approaching that age at which speed starts to deteriorate. It's usually in the early to mid 30's that you see 1500m guys that used to be great in that event moving up to the 5K cause they no longer have the wheels to be top notch 1500m competitors. Same with 5k guys and 10k guys moving up. The reason most people are near their peak in their very late twenties or very early thirties is not because it's their bodies physical peak, which is probably more like early/mid 20's, but because they are reaching 10+ years of serious, diligent training and are maxing out their capabilities as a runner. A runner starting from nothing at 23 is much more likely to be a better runner than his equivalent starting out at 30.
Hmm, thanks for the info. I guess I know I can break 5:00 with more training, I always just figured 30 was the optimum time to do it. After XC season was done in HS, I switched my focus to soccer in the spring, so I knew if I wanted to break five I'd have to train for it later. I saw 30 as an age where I would have to work the least hard to accomplish breaking it, but now I see that's probably not true.
Recently I've been thinking about doing serious running again. (I'm only 20, so waiting ten years would be a little overkill haha) But I've been afraid that if I start training to break 5:00 I will have to give it my full physical effort, meaning I'd have to stop training upper body seriously for a few months. And right now, my upper body has been more of a priority for me
Why would you need to stop the weight training? Unless it's a time issue it shouldn't be any problem to do some weight training and running at the same time, I know I had no problem mixing the two at the various points where I have done decent strength training. If your running a ton and not dramatically upping the eating you might not gain as much mass as your shooting for but it's definitely possible to do strength work and still run seriously/competitively.
Yeah it would mostly be a time issue. As it is now, I run every fourth day in my workout routine. If I wanted to break five I'd assume I should be running every day. And if I did that I would have to run in the morning and lift in the afternoon or vice-versa, which would end up being too much work for me at the moment. At least, that's what I'd imagine I'd end up doing. I've been under the impression its bad to lift weights and run immediately afterwards, so I would want to split them on different ends of the day. But maybe I've heard wrong... is it bad to do one after the other?
Whether you run or lift first really depends on your priorities. Doing both can be done but you probably won't be able to do both as well as you could if you focused more on one. They don't necessarily negatively impact each other but you just can't concentrate on both 100%. Do you prioritize one goal over the other? How much time and effort are you putting into lifting? Maybe alternate running before then after and see what is better for you.
Right now I prioritize upper body over lower, and it while probably stay that way for a while. I would run after I lift, i'm just worried it would slow down my recovery for upper body. Since I've heard you want to take protein within ten minutes of lifting, and that wouldn't work if I ran for ten or twenty minutes afterwards. Also, wouldn't I be essentially splitting my nutrient resources between recovering both my lower and upper body? Making my recovery slower?
Yeah, you would be hampering your lifting recovery a little bit by running right afterward. Also you won't be able to get quite as good quality run if you have just lifted. That's why it gets tricky and you gotta figure out what's more important and how you want to go about this.
How can you handle eating and drinking before running? Definitely get some protein in your body after lifting and before running. Can you handle a shake before a run? If you're going to run only after you lift you gotta be able to recover from lifting AND have the energy necessary to run well.
Edit: How long does it take you to lift? The window to take protein and have a caloric feast is more like 30 minutes. If you could condense your routine to the most important exercises on the days you run afterward you might be able to get away with doing both before you eat (not counting some protein in between them).
For your easy endurance runs you could just do them before you lift and count it as some of your warmup. They won't take much out of you so that you'll still have energy to lift then eat a big meal after it's been too long.
And for a mile you need some speed. Speed work could count for lower body. Doing sprints, hills, drills, ect are great for lower body strength.
On July 18 2012 13:16 itkovian wrote: I'll post my running PR's since it will be a while until I break them again. They were done during the height of my cross country training senior year, and it would take a ton of effort to get in that kind of shape again. I'm going to try and break under a 5 min mile when I turn 30, since I've heard that is when your body would be in peak running form. Until then:
body weight - 68kg 1600m - 5:02 5000m - 17:40
Once I get back to school, and back in the gym, I'll post some weight lifting maxes
It's more about how long you've been in the running game than how old you are. At 30 most people can still perform at very high levels but it's generally for the longer distances not shorter. It's definitely not a magic age where you become a good runner automatically. That being said, why wait to try to reach your goal?
Based on that you have already done 5:02 off of HS training there is little doubt you could go much better than 5:00 with more training. Yes, there is little reason to think you can't go break 5 at 30, since you clearly have the talent to do so.
However, waiting that long is only going to make it harder. You'll be even more years removed from serious running, and you'll already be approaching that age at which speed starts to deteriorate. It's usually in the early to mid 30's that you see 1500m guys that used to be great in that event moving up to the 5K cause they no longer have the wheels to be top notch 1500m competitors. Same with 5k guys and 10k guys moving up. The reason most people are near their peak in their very late twenties or very early thirties is not because it's their bodies physical peak, which is probably more like early/mid 20's, but because they are reaching 10+ years of serious, diligent training and are maxing out their capabilities as a runner. A runner starting from nothing at 23 is much more likely to be a better runner than his equivalent starting out at 30.
Hmm, thanks for the info. I guess I know I can break 5:00 with more training, I always just figured 30 was the optimum time to do it. After XC season was done in HS, I switched my focus to soccer in the spring, so I knew if I wanted to break five I'd have to train for it later. I saw 30 as an age where I would have to work the least hard to accomplish breaking it, but now I see that's probably not true.
Recently I've been thinking about doing serious running again. (I'm only 20, so waiting ten years would be a little overkill haha) But I've been afraid that if I start training to break 5:00 I will have to give it my full physical effort, meaning I'd have to stop training upper body seriously for a few months. And right now, my upper body has been more of a priority for me
Why would you need to stop the weight training? Unless it's a time issue it shouldn't be any problem to do some weight training and running at the same time, I know I had no problem mixing the two at the various points where I have done decent strength training. If your running a ton and not dramatically upping the eating you might not gain as much mass as your shooting for but it's definitely possible to do strength work and still run seriously/competitively.
Yeah it would mostly be a time issue. As it is now, I run every fourth day in my workout routine. If I wanted to break five I'd assume I should be running every day. And if I did that I would have to run in the morning and lift in the afternoon or vice-versa, which would end up being too much work for me at the moment. At least, that's what I'd imagine I'd end up doing. I've been under the impression its bad to lift weights and run immediately afterwards, so I would want to split them on different ends of the day. But maybe I've heard wrong... is it bad to do one after the other?
Whether you run or lift first really depends on your priorities. Doing both can be done but you probably won't be able to do both as well as you could if you focused more on one. They don't necessarily negatively impact each other but you just can't concentrate on both 100%. Do you prioritize one goal over the other? How much time and effort are you putting into lifting? Maybe alternate running before then after and see what is better for you.
Right now I prioritize upper body over lower, and it while probably stay that way for a while. I would run after I lift, i'm just worried it would slow down my recovery for upper body. Since I've heard you want to take protein within ten minutes of lifting, and that wouldn't work if I ran for ten or twenty minutes afterwards. Also, wouldn't I be essentially splitting my nutrient resources between recovering both my lower and upper body? Making my recovery slower?
Yeah, you would be hampering your lifting recovery a little bit by running right afterward. Also you won't be able to get quite as good quality run if you have just lifted. That's why it gets tricky and you gotta figure out what's more important and how you want to go about this.
How can you handle eating and drinking before running? Definitely get some protein in your body after lifting and before running. Can you handle a shake before a run? If you're going to run only after you lift you gotta be able to recover from lifting AND have the energy necessary to run well.
Edit: How long does it take you to lift? The window to take protein and have a caloric feast is more like 30 minutes. If you could condense your routine to the most important exercises on the days you run afterward you might be able to get away with doing both before you eat (not counting some protein in between them).
For your easy endurance runs you could just do them before you lift and count it as some of your warmup. They won't take much out of you so that you'll still have energy to lift then eat a big meal after it's been too long.
And for a mile you need some speed. Speed work could count for lower body. Doing sprints, hills, drills, ect are great for lower body strength.
Thanks for the help man! Sounds like tricky business indeed haha. I'll try mixing in more running before my lifts and see how it goes. I like the idea of an endurance run before. That way I would get the protein right after I lift. I know I won't be able to stomach running after I drank a shake.
I would like to list my PR on front squats from last week: hipaul(88kg) 124.7kg
Not sure if I'll ever catch up to decafchicken on first, but I think 300lbs definitely within the reach for me and I'll be gunning for that second place
Also, I ran 5:21 1600m 9 years ago when I used to run track as a freshmen in HS... not sure if it should count considering that I probably can't even run a mile in 7 minutes now lol...
On August 24 2012 14:04 AirbladeOrange wrote: My 10k PR is wrong on the list. It's 36:39. Thanks! Hopefully I'll be able to post some new running ones someday.
Looks like he posted my most recent 10k to your name instead of mine.
Just going to update my lifts, I've been super lazy last 3-4 months with weightlifting, but I've been doing lots of biking, cardio, and just trying out other stuff at the gym. Annoying I have to convert all my lifts to kg, but ah well. Also lots of these lifts will just be starting points, I don't actually do all of these lifts very often.
76kg BW & 5'9"
Benchpress: 103kg Squat: 111kg (FML it got worse, happens when you never do it) Deadlift: 161kg Sitting Shoulder Press: 64kg Dips: +90lb weighted Pull-ups: +25lb weighted
C&J: 70kg (I don't have technique, I pretty much regular shoulder pressed 155lb there, awe yeah (: ) Snatch: 52kg (Bad hamstring flexibility, can't get down very low.)
So pretty much my lower body is really weak for strength, but that's probably because they're more endurance built. Running distances has been a lot tougher recently compared to when being 140lb though haha.
Most of the longer distances were done about 18 months back when I weighted less, but I did my 400m PB as the Olympics were going on, felt really good about that. With my goals I don't think I will ever top my 1500m records or higher, but I'll focus on the 100m-400m a lot more, I really like the sprinter body build.
On August 24 2012 15:05 FiWiFaKi wrote: Just going to update my lifts, I've been super lazy last 3-4 months with weightlifting, but I've been doing lots of biking, cardio, and just trying out other stuff at the gym. Annoying I have to convert all my lifts to kg, but ah well. Also lots of these lifts will just be starting points, I don't actually do all of these lifts very often.
76kg BW & 5'9"
Benchpress: 103kg Squat: 111kg (FML it got worse, happens when you never do it) Deadlift: 161kg Sitting Shoulder Press: 64kg Dips: +90lb weighted Pull-ups: +25lb weighted
C&J: 70kg (I don't have technique, I pretty much regular shoulder pressed 155lb there, awe yeah (: ) Snatch: 52kg (Bad hamstring flexibility, can't get down very low.)
So pretty much my lower body is really weak for strength, but that's probably because they're more endurance built. Running distances has been a lot tougher recently compared to when being 140lb though haha.
Most of the longer distances were done about 18 months back when I weighted less, but I did my 400m PB as the Olympics were going on, felt really good about that. With my goals I don't think I will ever top my 1500m records or higher, but I'll focus on the 100m-400m a lot more, I really like the sprinter body build.
Those 100/200 are really soft. You should almost certainly be able to go sub 12/24, though being a (former?) distance guy my guess is just that you've never done much block/explosive/start work.
EDIT: Actually at second glance your 1500m PR is HUGELY out of place relative to the 800, and out of place relative to the 3000. Were you someone training specifically for 400m/800m that occasionally ran the 1500m? 1:53 is getting really close to sufficient speed to run sub 4 minute mile (3:43 1500m), and while you'd obviously need great aerobic development to be able to run that time, your 1500m is 50 seconds slower.
EDIT2: Actually looking at your 3000m it predicts a faster 1500m that what you've ran as well. Not sure what the backstory is but I'd imagine you could obliterate that 1500m time pretty easily with minimal training as your speed is clearly still there. 18 months ago you were at a minimum in shape for 4:10 1500m, maybe faster.
On August 24 2012 15:05 FiWiFaKi wrote: Just going to update my lifts, I've been super lazy last 3-4 months with weightlifting, but I've been doing lots of biking, cardio, and just trying out other stuff at the gym. Annoying I have to convert all my lifts to kg, but ah well. Also lots of these lifts will just be starting points, I don't actually do all of these lifts very often.
76kg BW & 5'9"
Benchpress: 103kg Squat: 111kg (FML it got worse, happens when you never do it) Deadlift: 161kg Sitting Shoulder Press: 64kg Dips: +90lb weighted Pull-ups: +25lb weighted
C&J: 70kg (I don't have technique, I pretty much regular shoulder pressed 155lb there, awe yeah (: ) Snatch: 52kg (Bad hamstring flexibility, can't get down very low.)
So pretty much my lower body is really weak for strength, but that's probably because they're more endurance built. Running distances has been a lot tougher recently compared to when being 140lb though haha.
Most of the longer distances were done about 18 months back when I weighted less, but I did my 400m PB as the Olympics were going on, felt really good about that. With my goals I don't think I will ever top my 1500m records or higher, but I'll focus on the 100m-400m a lot more, I really like the sprinter body build.
Those 100/200 are really soft. You should almost certainly be able to go sub 12/24, though being a (former?) distance guy my guess is just that you've never done much block/explosive/start work.
EDIT: Actually at second glance your 1500m PR is HUGELY out of place relative to the 800, and out of place relative to the 3000. Were you someone training specifically for 400m/800m that occasionally ran the 1500m? 1:53 is getting really close to sufficient speed to run sub 4 minute mile (3:43 1500m), and while you'd obviously need great aerobic development to be able to run that time, your 1500m is 50 seconds slower.
EDIT2: Actually looking at your 3000m it predicts a faster 1500m that what you've ran as well. Not sure what the backstory is but I'd imagine you could obliterate that 1500m time pretty easily with minimal training as your speed is clearly still there. 18 months ago you were at a minimum in shape for 4:10 1500m, maybe faster.
I never really did sprints, so I'm not surprised they are bad. In Grade 10 I specialized in the 3000m, and I won juniors in Calgary, I just remember my 1500m distance since it's what I started at when I joined the school team, and then the coach said that'd I'd do better at the 3000m and 5000m. And those two I had very very good times for, but I couldn't remember the 5k.
Lately (Only 18 right now) I am working on the lower distances, but it's very recent (like 2-3 months), and my build right now is pretty athletic, I run and bike everywhere, lots of soccer etc. I do hope to reach 11.50 for the 100m eventually, but right now mostly focused on putting on muscle and just keeping up what I've been doing with regular running here and there.
So been doing pull-ups and chin-ups for a while now, increasing the weight each week if i can and it has been going pretty well. Yesterday at the gym, i had like 5 minutes left before i had to go, so tried 1 arm chins...
3 right arm 2 left arm (63kg-64kg)
Felt like such a boss, plus it's a really nice milestone for me personally.
Why is it that, whenever I see your PRs, they never look excrutiating? Obviously 205kg is a massive squat, but from that video it looks like you could add another 5-10kg and still finish the squat (albeit with slightly worse technique).
Updating my PRs: Squat 1x170kg - 7.5kg increase. BP 1x105kg - 7.5kg increase. Deadlift 1x185kg - iirc I didn't bother listing it back then, but it went up by like 40kg in the past couple of months. Press 2x70kg - 10kg increase.
Not sure how relevant these PRs since they are 9 years old :D But Im getting back into running to lets hope I can come back and beat some of these! all of these were done at 52kg / 115lbs (5'9) 400m: 52 800m: 1:59 1600m: 4:26 3200m: 9:39 5000m: 15:36 Half Marathon: 1:18
Currently 72kg Current 5k speed: 19:57.. Have a ways to go :D Here is confirmation on the 5k: I'm Steve Lore
On December 08 2012 08:13 rubus wrote: 200kg deep squat with belt 220kg deadlift with belt 152.5kg TnG benchpress 141kg paused bench press 100kgx19 bench press ¨85kgx5 military press
About 95 bw and 17 years old
Really nice. Some great lifts there I'll probably be posting my new PRs either next week Sunday or the week after.
On December 10 2012 11:36 AoN.DimSum wrote: updated until trident
what is a tng bench? Should I make a category for powerlifting for paused bench and tng bench to go under?
tng bench would be touch-and-go bench, with a minimal pause. I don't think a separate category will be needed as this is the most common way to bench press. Only thing that might be separate is competition lifts but I think we are too few to be of any significance.
@trident: Nice lifts man! I would encourage you to post in the TL weightlifting progress thread.
On December 31 2012 09:31 eshlow wrote: Anyone wanna go for some weighted dip goodness?
I'm aiming for 100kg eventually.
Lol, I maxed out at +37,5kg last year. I think +60kg is a good goal for me (which would be around 160kg total at 100kg bw), so count me in.
Don't know if you will find anyone in hear that is gonna challenge you on +100kg though.
lol, yeah, don't expect for anyone else to go for the +100kg.
But I'm currently at about 65-67kg or so, 100kg dip for me would be about 165 kg more or less.
If you go for 65kg that'll put you at 165kg too.
Wanna go for 165kg total and see who gets there first?
Anyone else want in on the 165kg total too?
Of course, I am in. I don't know how close you are to those numbers, but probably a rather long race for me. But I'll try.
Yeah man this is a long road for me too. I'm at approximately 60kg for about 6-7 reps right now so I still got 40kg more to go. Gonna be at least 4-6 months minimum I think
On December 31 2012 09:31 eshlow wrote: Anyone wanna go for some weighted dip goodness?
I'm aiming for 100kg eventually.
Lol, I maxed out at +37,5kg last year. I think +60kg is a good goal for me (which would be around 160kg total at 100kg bw), so count me in.
Don't know if you will find anyone in hear that is gonna challenge you on +100kg though.
lol, yeah, don't expect for anyone else to go for the +100kg.
But I'm currently at about 65-67kg or so, 100kg dip for me would be about 165 kg more or less.
If you go for 65kg that'll put you at 165kg too.
Wanna go for 165kg total and see who gets there first?
Anyone else want in on the 165kg total too?
Of course, I am in. I don't know how close you are to those numbers, but probably a rather long race for me. But I'll try.
Yeah man this is a long road for me too. I'm at approximately 60kg for about 6-7 reps right now so I still got 40kg more to go. Gonna be at least 4-6 months minimum I think
+60kg on dips is pretty impressive! Could you give some details on how you program them? Also, what are your BP numbers?
On January 04 2013 06:01 decafchicken wrote: Lol might add dips and pull ups, doubt I'll hit big weights like that though
Dip is the squat of the upper body brah :p
On January 04 2013 06:01 Malinor wrote:
On January 04 2013 05:57 eshlow wrote:
On January 03 2013 22:12 Malinor wrote:
On December 31 2012 09:31 eshlow wrote: Anyone wanna go for some weighted dip goodness?
I'm aiming for 100kg eventually.
Lol, I maxed out at +37,5kg last year. I think +60kg is a good goal for me (which would be around 160kg total at 100kg bw), so count me in.
Don't know if you will find anyone in hear that is gonna challenge you on +100kg though.
lol, yeah, don't expect for anyone else to go for the +100kg.
But I'm currently at about 65-67kg or so, 100kg dip for me would be about 165 kg more or less.
If you go for 65kg that'll put you at 165kg too.
Wanna go for 165kg total and see who gets there first?
Anyone else want in on the 165kg total too?
Of course, I am in. I don't know how close you are to those numbers, but probably a rather long race for me. But I'll try.
Yeah man this is a long road for me too. I'm at approximately 60kg for about 6-7 reps right now so I still got 40kg more to go. Gonna be at least 4-6 months minimum I think
+60kg on dips is pretty impressive! Could you give some details on how you program them? Also, what are your BP numbers?
Typically, I recommend linear progression +5 lbs until you stall which is usually around 25% up to 50% of bodyweight. Then light/heavy (5 RM/10 RM) works well if you need muscle too) or go down to something like 4/8 or 3/6 if you want to bias more strength. Then some form of DUP once you get in the +100% bodyweight range. That tends to work the best (either light/med/heavy or med/light/heavy).
Dip at least 2-3x per week.
I don't bench. I have pressed my bodyweight though but didn't try anymore than that.
On January 04 2013 06:01 decafchicken wrote: Lol might add dips and pull ups, doubt I'll hit big weights like that though
Dip is the squat of the upper body brah :p
On January 04 2013 06:01 Malinor wrote:
On January 04 2013 05:57 eshlow wrote:
On January 03 2013 22:12 Malinor wrote:
On December 31 2012 09:31 eshlow wrote: Anyone wanna go for some weighted dip goodness?
I'm aiming for 100kg eventually.
Lol, I maxed out at +37,5kg last year. I think +60kg is a good goal for me (which would be around 160kg total at 100kg bw), so count me in.
Don't know if you will find anyone in hear that is gonna challenge you on +100kg though.
lol, yeah, don't expect for anyone else to go for the +100kg.
But I'm currently at about 65-67kg or so, 100kg dip for me would be about 165 kg more or less.
If you go for 65kg that'll put you at 165kg too.
Wanna go for 165kg total and see who gets there first?
Anyone else want in on the 165kg total too?
Of course, I am in. I don't know how close you are to those numbers, but probably a rather long race for me. But I'll try.
Yeah man this is a long road for me too. I'm at approximately 60kg for about 6-7 reps right now so I still got 40kg more to go. Gonna be at least 4-6 months minimum I think
+60kg on dips is pretty impressive! Could you give some details on how you program them? Also, what are your BP numbers?
Typically, I recommend linear progression +5 lbs until you stall which is usually around 25% up to 50% of bodyweight. Then light/heavy (5 RM/10 RM) works well if you need muscle too) or go down to something like 4/8 or 3/6 if you want to bias more strength. Then some form of DUP once you get in the +100% bodyweight range. That tends to work the best (either light/med/heavy or med/light/heavy).
Dip at least 2-3x per week.
I don't bench. I have pressed my bodyweight though but didn't try anymore than that.
I've been trying to progress linearly with the dips, but I think I might have started with too high of added weight. Started with 24kg, which is about 0.3bw and started going up by 2.5kg(5lbs) per week, but I keep getting stuck at 29kg. I can do 1 set of 5 but that's basically it.
I might try the light/heavy thing, hopefully it'll help even if I'm only doing it once a week. I can't really incorporate them to any of my other workouts without it suffering considerably.
On January 04 2013 06:01 decafchicken wrote: Lol might add dips and pull ups, doubt I'll hit big weights like that though
Dip is the squat of the upper body brah :p
On January 04 2013 06:01 Malinor wrote:
On January 04 2013 05:57 eshlow wrote:
On January 03 2013 22:12 Malinor wrote:
On December 31 2012 09:31 eshlow wrote: Anyone wanna go for some weighted dip goodness?
I'm aiming for 100kg eventually.
Lol, I maxed out at +37,5kg last year. I think +60kg is a good goal for me (which would be around 160kg total at 100kg bw), so count me in.
Don't know if you will find anyone in hear that is gonna challenge you on +100kg though.
lol, yeah, don't expect for anyone else to go for the +100kg.
But I'm currently at about 65-67kg or so, 100kg dip for me would be about 165 kg more or less.
If you go for 65kg that'll put you at 165kg too.
Wanna go for 165kg total and see who gets there first?
Anyone else want in on the 165kg total too?
Of course, I am in. I don't know how close you are to those numbers, but probably a rather long race for me. But I'll try.
Yeah man this is a long road for me too. I'm at approximately 60kg for about 6-7 reps right now so I still got 40kg more to go. Gonna be at least 4-6 months minimum I think
+60kg on dips is pretty impressive! Could you give some details on how you program them? Also, what are your BP numbers?
Typically, I recommend linear progression +5 lbs until you stall which is usually around 25% up to 50% of bodyweight. Then light/heavy (5 RM/10 RM) works well if you need muscle too) or go down to something like 4/8 or 3/6 if you want to bias more strength. Then some form of DUP once you get in the +100% bodyweight range. That tends to work the best (either light/med/heavy or med/light/heavy).
Dip at least 2-3x per week.
I don't bench. I have pressed my bodyweight though but didn't try anymore than that.
I've been trying to progress linearly with the dips, but I think I might have started with too high of added weight. Started with 24kg, which is about 0.3bw and started going up by 2.5kg(5lbs) per week, but I keep getting stuck at 29kg. I can do 1 set of 5 but that's basically it.
I might try the light/heavy thing, hopefully it'll help even if I'm only doing it once a week. I can't really incorporate them to any of my other workouts without it suffering considerably.
Start lower near your 15 RM or so, go with at least 3x5 if not 5x5 if you can manage that in a session. Max out the last sets reps (but none prior).
Should help you linear progress to at least 35-40kg
Not sure about my 1RMs, but here are some of my lower rep range PRs Bench: 315lb x2 Squat: 340 x6 (Just started doing legs on Thanksgiving) Deadlift: 385 x6
Currently weighting 185-190lbs. Trying to get up to 200lbs by the end of February... Here's to another great year!
@eshlow Does doing that high of weighted dips not hurt the front part of your shoulder? I typically try to get 10 reps with 100lbs and get quite a bit of front shoulder stress... Maybe I'm doing something wrong? I don't do them more than once a week though, sometimes not even once a week.
I keep all my workouts balanced with push/pull and do prehab work if necessary for various things.
Sometimes if you haven't gone really heavy for a while and your body isn't used to it then yeah it can give you some stress. If you're going to work back into it then you gotta go slow.
On January 04 2013 14:03 eshlow wrote: Nope, no pain.
I keep all my workouts balanced with push/pull and do prehab work if necessary for various things.
Sometimes if you haven't gone really heavy for a while and your body isn't used to it then yeah it can give you some stress. If you're going to work back into it then you gotta go slow.
What exactly do you do as prehab work? I have been doing + Show Spoiler +
as a warmup for a while. But that is not exactly prehab.
Lots of scapular mobility work and postural mostly. LYTPs (dave draper's site has good overview) and general RC work if I need to. But haven't done those in a while.
On May 01 2013 04:41 decafchicken wrote: Very nice! What are your PRs and do you compete?
Best in competition is 210 squat 142.5 bench and 220 deadlift. Best traning is 215 squat 155 bench and 230x3 dead. I compete in ipf raw powerlifting. 17 years old
Very nice. My squat and deadlift are almost the same as yours. Although i've got 5 years on you :-p You'll be a monster by the time you're my age. What weight class are you? Do you do any work with the olympic lifts? You've got great squat form for it.
On May 04 2013 01:26 decafchicken wrote: Very nice. My squat and deadlift are almost the same as yours. Although i've got 5 years on you :-p You'll be a monster by the time you're my age. What weight class are you? Do you do any work with the olympic lifts? You've got great squat form for it.
Hope to be a monster before 20 y/o! I do sometimes for fun. Have done a 120 power clean and a 140 btn push press
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Had a little over 3200m/2 miles on a cooper test (12 minute run). No way in hell I could do that now though.
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