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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
May 24 2013 06:19 GMT
#1781
On May 24 2013 14:39 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Does anyone know if most people plan their training in week long segments just because a week is what we base many other things on? For example if a long run every 7 days seems too much for someone maybe they should do one every 10 days.


I think for most rec runners that is why. It's somewhat common for elites to operate on multi-week blocks, as I understand NOP does, and ten day cycles are also used by some.
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GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
May 24 2013 08:41 GMT
#1782
I am a beginner so I follow the couch to 5k tip from the first page of this thread. My problem is that I feel a little bit of pain in my legs or whatever when I run/jog, it's really annoying. Does it dissapear after a while once I get used to the schedule? I am on my first week but I have tried to run a little bit before this and last month. Yes, my condition is not good as well lol. I think that I don't overstride and I am flat-footed but I am using inserts in my running shoes. I am also a little bit overweight so I guess that can cause the pain as well.
Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 12:25:17
May 24 2013 12:14 GMT
#1783
GunSec, my legs have got stronger since starting running. I used to get a dull ache in my knee sometimes during but mainly after a run and that has completely gone now.

I'm not doctor but from this thread, the general consensus is if it gets worse or goes on for weeks, get it checked out.


Edit... The OP explains injuries pretty well.
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DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
May 24 2013 12:34 GMT
#1784
On May 24 2013 17:41 GunSec wrote:
I am a beginner so I follow the couch to 5k tip from the first page of this thread. My problem is that I feel a little bit of pain in my legs or whatever when I run/jog, it's really annoying. Does it dissapear after a while once I get used to the schedule? I am on my first week but I have tried to run a little bit before this and last month. Yes, my condition is not good as well lol. I think that I don't overstride and I am flat-footed but I am using inserts in my running shoes. I am also a little bit overweight so I guess that can cause the pain as well.


Where exactly would you say the pain is? The calf muscle, the ankles, the knees, hips, the thigh, the foot itself?
Do you run 5k every day, every other day, once every 3 days, ect?
Do you run more on trails or pavement?
Do you stretch afterwards? If yes, do you have any stretches especially for the area you're experiencing pain in?

Also can you leave a link/post a photo of the shoe you own?

The weight and getting used to the schedule are likely to cause some struggles at first, but if it's more than just sore muscles during and after a workout then one of those things I asked about above probably needs changing to prevent an injury. My Dad has been a track coach for years, and he maintains that the best way to get comfortable with running is to stay injury-free.
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GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
May 24 2013 14:26 GMT
#1785
On May 24 2013 21:14 Shottaz wrote:
GunSec, my legs have got stronger since starting running. I used to get a dull ache in my knee sometimes during but mainly after a run and that has completely gone now.

I'm not doctor but from this thread, the general consensus is if it gets worse or goes on for weeks, get it checked out.


Edit... The OP explains injuries pretty well.


I rarely get any pain in my legs or knee after a run so I think that I'm just fine :D. I'm getting older and have been putting weight on me(24 years old now) over the recent years but I want to make a change now! My goal is to absolutely run 5 km without any breaks and within 20 minutes.
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
May 24 2013 14:35 GMT
#1786
On May 24 2013 21:34 DavoS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 17:41 GunSec wrote:
I am a beginner so I follow the couch to 5k tip from the first page of this thread. My problem is that I feel a little bit of pain in my legs or whatever when I run/jog, it's really annoying. Does it dissapear after a while once I get used to the schedule? I am on my first week but I have tried to run a little bit before this and last month. Yes, my condition is not good as well lol. I think that I don't overstride and I am flat-footed but I am using inserts in my running shoes. I am also a little bit overweight so I guess that can cause the pain as well.


Where exactly would you say the pain is? The calf muscle, the ankles, the knees, hips, the thigh, the foot itself?
Do you run 5k every day, every other day, once every 3 days, ect?
Do you run more on trails or pavement?
Do you stretch afterwards? If yes, do you have any stretches especially for the area you're experiencing pain in?

Also can you leave a link/post a photo of the shoe you own?

The weight and getting used to the schedule are likely to cause some struggles at first, but if it's more than just sore muscles during and after a workout then one of those things I asked about above probably needs changing to prevent an injury. My Dad has been a track coach for years, and he maintains that the best way to get comfortable with running is to stay injury-free.


The pain is mostly on my knees and shins but I am not entirely sure, it's somewhere in the leg . I don't actually run 5 km, it's just about 2 km but with breaks so it's not that I run all the time, it's about once every 3 days but sometimes I get lazy and only do it once a week. I recently found the guide couch to 5k because I was looking in the first page of this thread and I tried it the first time today, it seemed to work very well and I like it a lot.
I run only on gravel trails. I usually don't stretch afterwards because I often don't feel any pain after the run, the day after I don't feel any pain whatsoever.

I'm sorry but I can't get the photo but it's a couple of years old addidas running shoe, I definitely need to buy new shoes soon, maybe that will help me running more. My goal as I mentioned before is to run 5km without any breaks, I have never been able to do that ever :D

Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
May 24 2013 23:57 GMT
#1787
Race day on Sunday!

Did my last run before the race over lunch with my training partner today. I am quite excited – I've been feeling pretty good about my ability to recover from workouts these last two weeks, so I think with a day of rest behind me I'll be ready to rock on Sunday morning – the goal is 33:xx. The Terwillegar Riverbend Advisory Council 10k don't know what it's in for!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
May 25 2013 03:09 GMT
#1788
On May 25 2013 08:57 Bonham wrote:
Race day on Sunday!

Did my last run before the race over lunch with my training partner today. I am quite excited – I've been feeling pretty good about my ability to recover from workouts these last two weeks, so I think with a day of rest behind me I'll be ready to rock on Sunday morning – the goal is 33:xx. The Terwillegar Riverbend Advisory Council 10k don't know what it's in for!


Good luck.

Not sure how the course is, but if you've been training well as it sounds like you have and the course is decently fast I think you'll get it especially given you've been improving in some serious leaps and bounds.

What kind of workouts have you been doing and with what times/recoveries?
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igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
May 25 2013 06:14 GMT
#1789
Guys I started running at the start of November now I'm up to running at 13km for 30 minutes then followed by 17km for 2 minutes (no break) I'm siked plus I have lost 20kgs
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LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
May 25 2013 09:43 GMT
#1790
On May 25 2013 12:09 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 08:57 Bonham wrote:
Race day on Sunday!

Did my last run before the race over lunch with my training partner today. I am quite excited – I've been feeling pretty good about my ability to recover from workouts these last two weeks, so I think with a day of rest behind me I'll be ready to rock on Sunday morning – the goal is 33:xx. The Terwillegar Riverbend Advisory Council 10k don't know what it's in for!


Good luck.

Not sure how the course is, but if you've been training well as it sounds like you have and the course is decently fast I think you'll get it especially given you've been improving in some serious leaps and bounds.

What kind of workouts have you been doing and with what times/recoveries?


I do my runs on the course hes doing, some of it anyways, its pretty flat. Too bad im working, would be a nice course to run. Best of luck to you Bonham.
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Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
May 25 2013 10:53 GMT
#1791
On May 25 2013 15:14 igay wrote:
Guys I started running at the start of November now I'm up to running at 13km for 30 minutes then followed by 17km for 2 minutes (no break) I'm siked plus I have lost 20kgs


I dont really get how the time relates to the distance because running 13km in 30 minutes could be WR. Or is it the speed you're talking about? 13 km/h and 17 km/h? Kinda makes sense. Most runners use minutes per kilometre or minutes per mile as units for speed though

Anyways, congratulations on your success. Losing 20 kgs is a lot. Are you still overweight or are you where you want to be? Any races planned?
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 12:53:56
May 25 2013 12:35 GMT
#1792
Ah I'm sorry I mean i am running at13km/h for 30 minutes on a treadmill, I've pretty much got to where I want to be I was 76kg now I'm 56kg at 171cm I still have a little bit of belly flat I want to get rid of but I'm doing an ab workout 4 times a week, biceps and chest once a week along with running 5 times a week and I have eaten super healthy for the last 7 months.

I think training to do a Marathon would be pretty cool but I've never given it much thought
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Meow-Meow
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany451 Posts
May 25 2013 12:59 GMT
#1793
Do you recommend running before or after breakfast?

I'm working on my schedule for the next couple of months and this is the last thing I'm trying to figure out.
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-VapidSlug-
Profile Joined June 2012
United States108 Posts
May 25 2013 15:26 GMT
#1794
On May 25 2013 21:59 Meow-Meow wrote:
Do you recommend running before or after breakfast?

I'm working on my schedule for the next couple of months and this is the last thing I'm trying to figure out.


That's something you have to figure out by trying it. I know I can't eat or drink ANYTHING before a morning run or it will come back up. If you, on the other hand, are able to eat and drink something light before the run I would recommend it.
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Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
May 25 2013 16:22 GMT
#1795
[QUOTE]On May 25 2013 12:09 L_Master wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 25 2013 08:57 Bonham wrote:
Not sure how the course is, but if you've been training well as it sounds like you have and the course is decently fast I think you'll get it especially given you've been improving in some serious leaps and bounds.

What kind of workouts have you been doing and with what times/recoveries?[/QUOTE]

I think it's pretty flat, but it's also a pretty podunk affair, so who knows what organizational hilarity will rear its head.

Notable runs from the past little while:

Last Friday – mile repeats, 5:12, 5:14, 5:12, 5:09.
Last Sunday – 10 mile tempo in 1:02
Tuesday – 12x400 hill runs, 1:30-1:45
Thursday – 10x400 in trail run, 1:18-1:14, with the last one in 1:09.

Like I said, it's not so much that I feel I've really been crushing my workouts as getting decently tired in them and then bouncing back in a day or two, ready for more. Feels like I've really taught my body how to recover quicker.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
May 25 2013 16:28 GMT
#1796
Ah, you shouldn't have any trouble at all going sub 34 if you execute a good race. At worst those mile repeats indicate 5k in like 16:10, which is plenty of speed for sub 34. The tempo is solid too, as usually those longer tempo runs are around MP efforts.

Honestly, based on all of that I'm pretty sure you can get close to 33:30 in the right race.
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Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
May 25 2013 18:16 GMT
#1797
On May 25 2013 18:43 LagLovah wrote:
I do my runs on the course hes doing, some of it anyways, its pretty flat. Too bad im working, would be a nice course to run. Best of luck to you Bonham.


Thanks! You're in Edmonton too? O_O

Internet life gets weirdly close to real life sometimes.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 23:49:31
May 25 2013 23:47 GMT
#1798
On May 26 2013 00:26 -VapidSlug- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 21:59 Meow-Meow wrote:
Do you recommend running before or after breakfast?

I'm working on my schedule for the next couple of months and this is the last thing I'm trying to figure out.


That's something you have to figure out by trying it. I know I can't eat or drink ANYTHING before a morning run or it will come back up. If you, on the other hand, are able to eat and drink something light before the run I would recommend it.


I'm much the same I can't have anything more than a tiny sip of water or I just end up getting a stitch as in running although I think it's more of a physiological thing for me

Also my pt told me that you shouldn't run after you eat because you're just burning off what you just ate.
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LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
May 26 2013 01:03 GMT
#1799
On May 26 2013 03:16 Bonham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 18:43 LagLovah wrote:
I do my runs on the course hes doing, some of it anyways, its pretty flat. Too bad im working, would be a nice course to run. Best of luck to you Bonham.


Thanks! You're in Edmonton too? O_O

Internet life gets weirdly close to real life sometimes.


I live a few blocks from where the race starts, nice area to run in imo, not aa good as river valley but meh.

Too the guys talking about food, sooner or later your going to have to run after eating, on an upset stomach or have water during. For me this took a while, would always get sick.. Its good to learn your limits there, its harsh if you get to 10k tkae a gel and some water and then bend over in pain.
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 02:12:44
May 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#1800
On May 26 2013 08:47 igay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 00:26 -VapidSlug- wrote:
On May 25 2013 21:59 Meow-Meow wrote:
Do you recommend running before or after breakfast?

I'm working on my schedule for the next couple of months and this is the last thing I'm trying to figure out.


That's something you have to figure out by trying it. I know I can't eat or drink ANYTHING before a morning run or it will come back up. If you, on the other hand, are able to eat and drink something light before the run I would recommend it.


I'm much the same I can't have anything more than a tiny sip of water or I just end up getting a stitch as in running although I think it's more of a physiological thing for me

Also my pt told me that you shouldn't run after you eat because you're just burning off what you just ate.


... what what about burning off what you eat? I don't think that's necessarily bad..


Apparently I definitely have to eat before I run because I get weird side stitches regardless of hydration, stretching or jogging first. I'm going to try and fix that by bulking up and strengthening my abs, but for now I'm trying to always eat something filling before going out since that's worked so far

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