EPTThe Paleo Diet thread - Page 8
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
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Levistus
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
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Levistus
1134 Posts
On October 24 2011 09:06 Ingenol wrote: Or just don't eat rice or a rice substitute? Sweet potatoes and any starchy tuber (regular potato, yucca root) are good sources of carbs, but Paleo by nature tends to be lower carb, higher fat than most diets. you mean to say i just eat the same way except by removing rice, sugars, fastfood etc.? i wonder if i could replace the rice with a piece of banana. or i remove the rice and just double the meat i eat? | ||
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Cntchocula
5 Posts
My question relating to Paelo: If I'm following the guidelines (eating 3-4 times a day, protein/veggies/few fats), should I be attempting to count calories or just eating until I'm full as suggested? I've found myself at times during dinner (my 3rd meal for the day) that I'm not super hungry or anything so I tend to lower the portions on everything just a bit. I just wanted to make sure I'm not entering starvation mode but I'm worried I might be eating too much since I'm not "hungry." | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
Just eat until you're full and eat the good stuff. Oh and since you're overweight, you're gonna eat more than normal people because there's probably some insuline resistance in ya. Need to fix that first until you start getting less hungry so eating paleo will fix that in no time. After that you'll lose weight in no-time. On October 24 2011 10:15 Levistus wrote: you mean to say i just eat the same way except by removing rice, sugars, fastfood etc.? i wonder if i could replace the rice with a piece of banana. or i remove the rice and just double the meat i eat? Removing the rice is always good :p. You could double the meat but you should also increase your veggies. Veggies rule. Oh and make sure you don't bake your stuff in vegetable oils but either coconut oil or butter. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On October 24 2011 07:27 Twisted wrote: There are actually good nutritional studies but there is a difference between observational studies and clinical studies. In clinical studies they usually have 2 or 3 groups of people and they test by changing one variable between the groups. Like in medicine research, one group of people is given a placebo and one group is given the actual medicine. Both groups are exactly the same and have some kind of chronic disease. If there is no noticable difference, the medicine fails and a study like that pretty much proves it. In a nutritional study, you could test 3 groups of random people (of random socio-economic status etc., so big groups so weed out the variance) and change one variable. In this case, one group is all vegetarian and doesn't eat meat at all, the other eats only chicken and the third group could eat every meat available. You have to make sure with this that only the one variable is different so those groups have to be monitored very closely obviously and each group has to be told what to eat at all times and you have to make sure each group behaves exactly the same (as in exercise, bad habits etc.etc.). Maybe a bad example because this is really hard to do, but I hope it serves it purpose. In a study like this you could conclude some stuff at least. Maybe a better example is a study where one group is cooking with only olive oil, one is cooking with only vegetable oils, and a third group is only using ghee or butter. I think this has been done actually and the ones on vegetable oils were suffering massive mortality rates compared to the ghee and butter people. First of all, observational studies are a type of clinical study What you are talking about is the difference between treatment and observational studies. And if you think theres no disadvantages to doing treatment studies over observational ones youre very wrong. Our topic here is nutrition. The effects of nutrition arent visible from one day to the other, usually it takes a long time, much longer than sth like effect of drugs. And since theres way more factors to health than just nutrition theres the huge variation factor, so you need a lot of people for all of the results to mean anything. The treatment studies on nutrition i read about had like 10 - 100 people. The epic study on cancer and nutrition, a cohort study, had 500 000 participants.. see the difference? ^^ If you get a treatment study where only one variable is different, it's triple blind, has many thousand participants and lasts for many years, then that's just excellent and probably better than any observational study ever could be. But in reality thats not gonna happen. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On October 24 2011 12:29 Cntchocula wrote: Hey guys, just started eating Paleo for about a week now. It's been going pretty well, I def have more energy and don't feel as lethargic as before. I'm about 5'10, starting weight was 220. I'm down about 6 lbs as of today and as far as I can tell it is not water weight since I am drinking water/green tea a ton. I'm currently doing P90 for exercise since I've had success with it in the past. My question relating to Paelo: If I'm following the guidelines (eating 3-4 times a day, protein/veggies/few fats), should I be attempting to count calories or just eating until I'm full as suggested? I've found myself at times during dinner (my 3rd meal for the day) that I'm not super hungry or anything so I tend to lower the portions on everything just a bit. I just wanted to make sure I'm not entering starvation mode but I'm worried I might be eating too much since I'm not "hungry." Eat 'til you're satisfied (not full). | ||
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Cntchocula
5 Posts
Just need to fix my sleeping schedule a bit and I should be good. | ||
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deepfield1
United States373 Posts
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Petshop
Canada73 Posts
On October 26 2011 00:40 deepfield1 wrote: Started Paleo a few days ago.. feeling really weak and my lifts have regressed.. I am still eating 3k+ calories a day.. Is this just sugar / carb withdraw? Kind of depressing You'll have to detail us what you are eating all day for us to evaluate if there are any problems. Although it will take a few weeks for your body to adapt from running on carbs to running on fat, but you shouldn't be feeling lethargic at all, normally it's the opposite. | ||
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deepfield1
United States373 Posts
My meals over the past week have looked something like this: Breakfast - 3 egg omelet with grilled chicken, onions + bell peppers /w a piece of fruit (apple, pear, or grapefruit) Lunch - I've been either doing 2x grilled chicken breasts with a large helping of steamed veggies, or a big salad (romaine, grilled chicken, tons of veggies) Dinner - large steak or fish filet, steamed veggies Snacks: apples, pears, bananas, dried fruits, unsalted cashews, macadamia nuts | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
 . There's probably a little bit of a placebo effect in there. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
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meowmeow-
Germany291 Posts
On the shopping lists there is a variety of nuts. Not amongst them are hazel-nuts. Is there something wrong with hazels or are they just not common in the US? I'm just asking 'cause they are my favourite nuts and I want to know whether or not they are detrimental to the paleo diet. Thanks a lot! | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
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Therick
Norway324 Posts
the paleo diet is probably one of the stupidest diets that has gone kind of "mainstream". Brb you lose weight on the paleo cus you eat quality food and cut the evil carbs, but disregard the laws of thermodynamics, we only had that sh.t since the 1850s. you are probably losing weight cus of the lack of calories in your diet, now that you aint stuffing your face with sugar or other carbohydrate rich foods. and then you conclude, WELL! I cut my carbs and now am losing weight, carbs are evil and make you fat! It is also the same if you try to gain weight (lol good luck seeing gains on paleo, 4k+ cals from protein and fat? enjoy your f.cked up nitrogen balance lol). Many bodybuilders and powerlifters preach that carbs are probably the most important macro nuitrient, for the increase in energy which would lead to increase in muscle pumps that will help stretch your muscle fascias to grow faster, and obviously the extra energy and constantly replinished muscles will give you stronger workouts and better recovery. I could go on and on but instead I'll just leave this here: IIFYM. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Sneakyz
Sweden2361 Posts
Now I'll wait for eshlow's response, since I don't know much about paleo . /popcorn ^_^ | ||
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Therick
Norway324 Posts
I consider 100g of carbs to be low carb. and what would you eat for a bulk to get your carbs up? grass? | ||
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Sneakyz
Sweden2361 Posts
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