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On May 14 2017 09:58 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2017 09:18 VHbb wrote:On May 13 2017 05:53 IgnE wrote:
cut all sucrose and all processed fructose syrups. i suppose if you have a bag of dextrose lying around you can take some after working out
no jams.
i didnt say cut all carbs, but if you are eating a thousand grams of pasta before you go to bed because you rid your home of sucrose then you are undermining yourself Thanks. I'm a bit afraid this kind of advice is somehow counterproductive for me ("cut all sucrose and all processed.."). I would like to have a normal life eating wise, where if I want to get a fruit (I imagine that would be a no) or a dessert the one time a week I eat out with friends, I can do it without feeling out of the rules. My impression, from past experience, is that of I live by very strict rules the "transgressions" are much harder, while I'd like to develop a healthy lifestyle without excess or harsh limitations..  P.s. I don't know what a bag of dextrose is  I'm afraid we sort of live in different worlds.. And I wouldn't be able to ingest 1kg of pasta even if I wanted to, I'd say it's almost impossible for a single person! fruit isn't processed and it's not sucrose. when you go out to eat just don't get a dessert. this isn't that hard. it's not very strict. you are cutting only one thing out, and i take it that you don't eat breakfast with family and friends very often. if you want to change you have to stop making excuses. if you don't want to change by all means keep doing what you are doing. life is short. wikipedia is your friend btw
That's why I say I'm afraid we come from kind of different worlds: I did many things out of willpower, just saying to myself that I have to do it even if it's difficult, but I'm not sure this is one of these things.. and that's why I'm asking here if someone has experienced this and is yes how do you deal with it.
Sometimes saying "don't make excuses, just do it, life is short" is not the solution, and that's when you ask for help (like me here  )
Thanks in any case
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I remember when someone told me to stop smoking crack and I was like, "woah there , nutjob, what's life if I can't have an occasional crackpipe?" Am I right, fellows ?
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On May 14 2017 14:18 VHbb wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2017 09:58 IgnE wrote:On May 14 2017 09:18 VHbb wrote:On May 13 2017 05:53 IgnE wrote:
cut all sucrose and all processed fructose syrups. i suppose if you have a bag of dextrose lying around you can take some after working out
no jams.
i didnt say cut all carbs, but if you are eating a thousand grams of pasta before you go to bed because you rid your home of sucrose then you are undermining yourself Thanks. I'm a bit afraid this kind of advice is somehow counterproductive for me ("cut all sucrose and all processed.."). I would like to have a normal life eating wise, where if I want to get a fruit (I imagine that would be a no) or a dessert the one time a week I eat out with friends, I can do it without feeling out of the rules. My impression, from past experience, is that of I live by very strict rules the "transgressions" are much harder, while I'd like to develop a healthy lifestyle without excess or harsh limitations.. P.s. I don't know what a bag of dextrose is I'm afraid we sort of live in different worlds.. And I wouldn't be able to ingest 1kg of pasta even if I wanted to, I'd say it's almost impossible for a single person! fruit isn't processed and it's not sucrose. when you go out to eat just don't get a dessert. this isn't that hard. it's not very strict. you are cutting only one thing out, and i take it that you don't eat breakfast with family and friends very often. if you want to change you have to stop making excuses. if you don't want to change by all means keep doing what you are doing. life is short. wikipedia is your friend btw That's why I say I'm afraid we come from kind of different worlds: I did many things out of willpower, just saying to myself that I have to do it even if it's difficult, but I'm not sure this is one of these things.. and that's why I'm asking here if someone has experienced this and is yes how do you deal with it. Sometimes saying "don't make excuses, just do it, life is short" is not the solution, and that's when you ask for help (like me here ) Thanks in any case
Cutting out processed sugars is super fucking easy. Real food is delicious and filling. Nothing is compelling you to order sugary deserts when you go out with friends.
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Jordan Peterson confirmed Paleo hack.
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On June 02 2017 10:31 Jerubaal wrote:
Jordan Peterson confirmed Paleo hack.
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On May 14 2017 14:18 VHbb wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2017 09:58 IgnE wrote:On May 14 2017 09:18 VHbb wrote:On May 13 2017 05:53 IgnE wrote:
cut all sucrose and all processed fructose syrups. i suppose if you have a bag of dextrose lying around you can take some after working out
no jams.
i didnt say cut all carbs, but if you are eating a thousand grams of pasta before you go to bed because you rid your home of sucrose then you are undermining yourself Thanks. I'm a bit afraid this kind of advice is somehow counterproductive for me ("cut all sucrose and all processed.."). I would like to have a normal life eating wise, where if I want to get a fruit (I imagine that would be a no) or a dessert the one time a week I eat out with friends, I can do it without feeling out of the rules. My impression, from past experience, is that of I live by very strict rules the "transgressions" are much harder, while I'd like to develop a healthy lifestyle without excess or harsh limitations.. P.s. I don't know what a bag of dextrose is I'm afraid we sort of live in different worlds.. And I wouldn't be able to ingest 1kg of pasta even if I wanted to, I'd say it's almost impossible for a single person! fruit isn't processed and it's not sucrose. when you go out to eat just don't get a dessert. this isn't that hard. it's not very strict. you are cutting only one thing out, and i take it that you don't eat breakfast with family and friends very often. if you want to change you have to stop making excuses. if you don't want to change by all means keep doing what you are doing. life is short. wikipedia is your friend btw That's why I say I'm afraid we come from kind of different worlds: I did many things out of willpower, just saying to myself that I have to do it even if it's difficult, but I'm not sure this is one of these things.. and that's why I'm asking here if someone has experienced this and is yes how do you deal with it. Sometimes saying "don't make excuses, just do it, life is short" is not the solution, and that's when you ask for help (like me here ) Thanks in any case
Hey there, I was in quite a similar situation. I always did some sports in my past, but never really went down the whole road and made excusses. I tried eating healthy but quit it after a while and thought "ah screw this, iam not that fat" (which I really wasnt, but if I had been honest to myself I wouldve said that iam not 100% satisfied with my looks and health, and then there is no reason not to change).
Now in April I started again and was really dedicated. Went from 90 kg down to 82 and from ~16-17% bodyfat down to ~13%. Feel alot better now and I can only advise you to the same.
I really advise you to count calories though. Atleast for some weeks so you know how much calories you actually stuff into yourself.
Then get into a nice kcal deficit and work out 4 day a week and go running 3 times ~ 1 hour slow and steady.
I didnt cut carbs though. I did cut almost all dirty sugar. I ate alot of oat, fullcorn pasta, bread and rice.
I cut on fat instead. No more than 50g of fat a day, around 200g protein and the rest carbs depending on how much calories you have left. I started out with around 300 and reduced it every month as i got along with my diet. In month 3 I was down to around 1900 - 2100 kcal on an average day (+1 refeed day).
Cheatdays depends, i would be very strict with them. Depending on how satisfied you are with your progress you can do more. Gotta experiment a little bit because everyone is different. I cut hard on alcohol (only like 1-2 liter beer a week) and only went out eating every 2 weeks at first, later every week when i knew i was on the right track.
I know it sounds hard at first, but if you want real change you have to do it. And youll see change fast which will motivate you further. Just keep in mind that you dont have to do it for the rest of your life! I still eat healthy and do sports, however i cut a little bit of cardio and iam back to 2600 kcal and i can keep my form.
In the end it was just 3 month of real hard work, which is such a small timeframe but can have such a big impact! Just "sacrifice" that 3 months and arise much fitter after that
Edit: what those 3 months will also do for you is that you will aquire a different taste. For example i grew to love tuna, harzer cheese, quark, oats, fresh vedgetabled etc. while i don't really dig all those fast foods anymore.
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Thanks a lot for the kind words TerransHill, it may seem stupid or absurd, but it actually helps to hear some nice advice and support. I've been basically trying to do what you suggest for ~2 weeks, and it's going better. I restarted to do some running, and I'm finally back to my workplace where a gym is available, so I'll try to go there this week.
This helped with my eating habits, and I've managed to stay around <2000kcal each day with some downfalls.
What I'm finding very useful is to
- prepare 5 meals on Sunday, that I bring with me at work during the week for lunch
- I don't count calories religiously, but I did count how much is each lunch, and I counted how many calories there are in some typical food that I may eat for dinner (e.g. chicken, vegetables, some cheese, yogurt, eggs, tuna) so that when I get back home for dinner I have a baseline (and I feel free to add as many vegetables as I want to fill up)
I must say: all goes well during the week, I still have some downfalls in the weekend when I'm a bit more free. I get to Saturday exhausted and over-stressed, and (knowing that this is a mistake) I stay home to "relax" which leads me to stress-eating (stress comes from the fact that I'm home, I'm not working "as I should" and I'm not doing sport / going out with friends / being a bit more social, as I should - no "" because I really should ).
I have to break this habit of throwing away the weekends by staying home and doing nothing, and I think I may be on a good track: I find it difficult because during the week I'm always interacting with *lots* of people at work (5-6 meetings a week, and in my work I have to deal with a lot of people daily) - and I really need some alone time to recharge. I don't think this is a problem in principle, but if this alone-time becomes overeating-time then it is..
thanks again!! It's very rare to find a polite / supportive person on the internet
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No problem, i know that kind of situation and I'm glad to help out . Good to hear that its working out for you. I think it's nothing wrong about recharging some energy, but of course you shouldn't get too lazy during the weekend .
Try to do some sports and if you go out with friends you can try some relaxing activities which don't involve too much drinking or eating. And like I said if you're making good progress theres nothing wrong in going out and having a nice meal and a little bit of beer. One day a week should be a refeed day anyways, on which you should eat (a little) more carbs to refill your energy storage.
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Hi guys! Eating - diet is going very well recently, thanks again for your help
Question: is there a better time of the day (like at dinner or at lunch) when to eat carbohydrates?
I usually eat
- breakfast: yogurt + plain cereals, coffee - or in alternative 2 eggs + coffee
- lunch: 100gr rice + tuna + vegetables
- mid-day: some fruits (usually a single banana)
- dinner: meat (usually chicken) + vegetables and some cheese
I am wondering if I should shuffle things around between lunch and dinner, and have more carbs (rice) in the evening, and more meaty stuff at lunch.. is there any reason to do so? any differences?
Thanks and cheers
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why? any specific reasons?
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yes and if you insist i will dig up the studies and authority to buttress my advice but i dont want to right now.
the short of it is that you will burn more fat and probably hve more energy during your day and eating them at night w dinner, after a workout, and a couple hours before bed will result in better sleep and beneficial nutrient partioning by affecting a whole host of systemic hormonal and metabolic factors
that said its mostly an optimization and you can eat them whenever they are convenient for you
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ok good, thanks - I ask here because when I try to google this kind of information I find everything and the its opposite, and I don't have a good feeling of which sources can be trusted, or not.
I'm not paying too much attention to optimization so I think for now I may stay with carbs at lunch because preparing a meal rich in meat to bring at work is a big inconvenience.. but perhaps I'll try to switch carbs/proteins at dinner/lunch for 1-2 weeks to have a personal feeling of what I prefer.
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On September 09 2017 19:57 VHbb wrote:Hi guys! Eating - diet is going very well recently, thanks again for your help Question: is there a better time of the day (like at dinner or at lunch) when to eat carbohydrates? I usually eat - breakfast: yogurt + plain cereals, coffee - or in alternative 2 eggs + coffee - lunch: 100gr rice + tuna + vegetables - mid-day: some fruits (usually a single banana) - dinner: meat (usually chicken) + vegetables and some cheese I am wondering if I should shuffle things around between lunch and dinner, and have more carbs (rice) in the evening, and more meaty stuff at lunch.. is there any reason to do so? any differences? Thanks and cheers
Eggs >>>> yogurt + cereal for breakfast
Assuming you workout in the evening, have some carbs pre/during workout to give you fuel, then eat most of your carbs with dinner to replenish your muscles.
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TLDR I'm curious if you all have any advice for eating better on the cheap (~$25 a week is my current food budget). I'm a pretty bad cook so the simpler the better. Most of what I was eating before I fell off the wagon was eggs, homemade tuna patties and broccoli, and black bean quesadillas but that's fallen back into just sandwiches and processed frozen meats.
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$25 for 7 days? How do you make that work?
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The past few weeks have been mostly bread, peanut butter, and nutella with the occasional 'splurge' of frozen chicken patties or chicken fried steak. To supplement that I'm occasionally offered unwanted leftovers from my roommates (not every week, but sometimes once or twice a week). I don't eat out, I don't drink anything but ice water.
Before I was eating mostly eggs (5 dozen for $5 ftw) along with the homemade tuna patties, frozen broccoli, and homemade black bean quesadillas with whole wheat/low carb tortillas.
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How about making huge batches of rice and beans?
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