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On July 27 2012 11:29 infinity21 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 11:14 Release wrote:
How to drop a deadlift with octagonal weights? If I try dropping, and it happens to land on a corner, sometimes it rolls backwards and whacks my shin.
I'm not flexible enough to lower all the way down. Drop it a little in front of you and keep the bar in your hands to control it. Still annoying as hell to have to reposition your feet every rep tho. Wait, what do you mean you're not flexible enough to lower all the way down? How did you start pulling the bar?
like at the very end, i always end up rounding my back.
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On July 27 2012 11:40 Release wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 11:29 infinity21 wrote:On July 27 2012 11:14 Release wrote:
How to drop a deadlift with octagonal weights? If I try dropping, and it happens to land on a corner, sometimes it rolls backwards and whacks my shin.
I'm not flexible enough to lower all the way down. Drop it a little in front of you and keep the bar in your hands to control it. Still annoying as hell to have to reposition your feet every rep tho. Wait, what do you mean you're not flexible enough to lower all the way down? How did you start pulling the bar? like at the very end, i always end up rounding my back.
You should be able to drop it while keeping your hands on the bar. No need to try to control it below your knees.
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Hi I work out every other day. I don't really lift weights, just lots of sit-upy push-upy things. Currently part of my routine is this:
8 min ab workout level 2
does anyone know of an effective ab routine that takes less time? It's nice that I can do a ton of push-ups in a short amount of time and move on with my routine. I hate that the only thing I know of that really affects my abs significantly requires so many reps and takes so much time comparative to the other things that I do.
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On July 27 2012 14:24 puppykiller wrote:Hi I work out every other day. I don't really lift weights, just lots of sit-upy push-upy things. Currently part of my routine is this: 8 min ab workout level 2does anyone know of an effective ab routine that takes less time? It's nice that I can do a ton of push-ups in a short amount of time and move on with my routine. I hate that the only thing I know of that really affects my abs significantly requires so many reps and takes so much time comparative to the other things that I do.
To answer your question directly, have you tried legraises? Lie flat on your back with your legs straight, then raise your feet until they're at a 90 degree angle (i.e. pointing at the roof) before lowering them back down. Take two seconds to go up and two seconds down. If that's still too easy, try hanging leg raises. Find something you can hang from with your body fully extended and raise your legs to a 90 degree angle. Don't use momentum to raise your legs and make sure you take 2 seconds up and 2 seconds down.
With that said, what's your goal with the push-upy and sit-upy things? If you're hopeing to build some biceps and abs, you probably won't. Have you ever seen the muscles on a long-distance runner's legs? They're small, lean muscles that don't really stand out, and you're currently doing the long distance equivalent of ab and arm exercises. What you need is more resistance on those exercises rather than more repetitions. Leg raises are a decent start, but with push-ups you need to increase the resistance significantly and find a way to continue increasing the resistance. The easiest way to do that would be to add weights to your push-ups but there are other alternatives if you look at the bodyweight training thread. An even better solution, for both your abs and your other muscles, is just to do weightlifting (which you can read about in the general training recommendations thread).
Also, remember that getting a six-pack is probably one of the hardest things to do in training. Six packs are 100% about body fat, so everybody has a six pack, it's just hidden under a layer of fat. To show a six pack, your body fat needs to be around 10% or even lower if your ab muscles are small. That a damn pretty damn low bodyfat percentage. The only real way to lose weight is to eat properly, so if you're serious you should have a look at the nutrition thread. And remember, if you exercise your abs you don't lose fat there, you lose fat from all over your body. If you're like most guys, your abs are the last place you'll lose fat from, so eating properly is really important.
I know I answered a ton of questions you didn't ask, and perhaps you knew all of this already, but I hope that helps 
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On July 27 2012 20:17 Daigomi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 14:24 puppykiller wrote:Hi I work out every other day. I don't really lift weights, just lots of sit-upy push-upy things. Currently part of my routine is this: 8 min ab workout level 2does anyone know of an effective ab routine that takes less time? It's nice that I can do a ton of push-ups in a short amount of time and move on with my routine. I hate that the only thing I know of that really affects my abs significantly requires so many reps and takes so much time comparative to the other things that I do. To answer your question directly, have you tried legraises? Lie flat on your back with your legs straight, then raise your feet until they're at a 90 degree angle (i.e. pointing at the roof) before lowering them back down. Take two seconds to go up and two seconds down. If that's still too easy, try hanging leg raises. Find something you can hang from with your body fully extended and raise your legs to a 90 degree angle. Don't use momentum to raise your legs and make sure you take 2 seconds up and 2 seconds down. With that said, what's your goal with the push-upy and sit-upy things? If you're hopeing to build some biceps and abs, you probably won't. Have you ever seen the muscles on a long-distance runner's legs? They're small, lean muscles that don't really stand out, and you're currently doing the long distance equivalent of ab and arm exercises. What you need is more resistance on those exercises rather than more repetitions. Leg raises are a decent start, but with push-ups you need to increase the resistance significantly and find a way to continue increasing the resistance. The easiest way to do that would be to add weights to your push-ups but there are other alternatives if you look at the bodyweight training thread. An even better solution, for both your abs and your other muscles, is just to do weightlifting (which you can read about in the general training recommendations thread). Also, remember that getting a six-pack is probably one of the hardest things to do in training. Six packs are 100% about body fat, so everybody has a six pack, it's just hidden under a layer of fat. To show a six pack, your body fat needs to be around 10% or even lower if your ab muscles are small. That a damn pretty damn low bodyfat percentage. The only real way to lose weight is to eat properly, so if you're serious you should have a look at the nutrition thread. And remember, if you exercise your abs you don't lose fat there, you lose fat from all over your body. If you're like most guys, your abs are the last place you'll lose fat from, so eating properly is really important. I know I answered a ton of questions you didn't ask, and perhaps you knew all of this already, but I hope that helps
Thanks for the answers. I am rather lean so I already have a six pack. I just don't like the amount of reps I have to do. I will try out hanging leg raises.
I guess I want to have decent sized muscles without really investing in a gym membership or gym materials. I am really toned, just not very bulky. Do you have any recommendations of exercises that do not require a lot of resources but can build bulk?
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On July 28 2012 07:39 puppykiller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 20:17 Daigomi wrote:On July 27 2012 14:24 puppykiller wrote:Hi I work out every other day. I don't really lift weights, just lots of sit-upy push-upy things. Currently part of my routine is this: 8 min ab workout level 2does anyone know of an effective ab routine that takes less time? It's nice that I can do a ton of push-ups in a short amount of time and move on with my routine. I hate that the only thing I know of that really affects my abs significantly requires so many reps and takes so much time comparative to the other things that I do. To answer your question directly, have you tried legraises? Lie flat on your back with your legs straight, then raise your feet until they're at a 90 degree angle (i.e. pointing at the roof) before lowering them back down. Take two seconds to go up and two seconds down. If that's still too easy, try hanging leg raises. Find something you can hang from with your body fully extended and raise your legs to a 90 degree angle. Don't use momentum to raise your legs and make sure you take 2 seconds up and 2 seconds down. With that said, what's your goal with the push-upy and sit-upy things? If you're hopeing to build some biceps and abs, you probably won't. Have you ever seen the muscles on a long-distance runner's legs? They're small, lean muscles that don't really stand out, and you're currently doing the long distance equivalent of ab and arm exercises. What you need is more resistance on those exercises rather than more repetitions. Leg raises are a decent start, but with push-ups you need to increase the resistance significantly and find a way to continue increasing the resistance. The easiest way to do that would be to add weights to your push-ups but there are other alternatives if you look at the bodyweight training thread. An even better solution, for both your abs and your other muscles, is just to do weightlifting (which you can read about in the general training recommendations thread). Also, remember that getting a six-pack is probably one of the hardest things to do in training. Six packs are 100% about body fat, so everybody has a six pack, it's just hidden under a layer of fat. To show a six pack, your body fat needs to be around 10% or even lower if your ab muscles are small. That a damn pretty damn low bodyfat percentage. The only real way to lose weight is to eat properly, so if you're serious you should have a look at the nutrition thread. And remember, if you exercise your abs you don't lose fat there, you lose fat from all over your body. If you're like most guys, your abs are the last place you'll lose fat from, so eating properly is really important. I know I answered a ton of questions you didn't ask, and perhaps you knew all of this already, but I hope that helps Thanks for the answers. I am rather lean so I already have a six pack. I just don't like the amount of reps I have to do. I will try out hanging leg raises. I guess I want to have decent sized muscles without really investing in a gym membership or gym materials. I am really toned, just not very bulky. Do you have any recommendations of exercises that do not require a lot of resources but can build bulk?
Sigh.....
People believing that if you touch heavy weights you instantly gain muscle mass.
Lift heavy weights. Squats, deadlifts, bench, overhead press, dips, pullups, rows
You will get a good upper body lower body and core.
Maybe one specific abs exercise. Fix your diet.
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On July 26 2012 21:07 Daigomi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 10:44 eshlow wrote:
Can he straighten up his back and get a lumbar curve when standing up straight?
If so, just really tight hamstrings Yeah, I'm pretty sure he can. I'm not sure if this is relevant to tight hamstrings, but he can squat (high bar) below parallel with a straight back as well. How would one go about making the hamstrings less tight?
Any hamstring stretch is fine
Or you can do something like romanian deadlifts focusing on getting lower with good form when you can feel the stretch on the hammies
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On July 28 2012 07:39 puppykiller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 20:17 Daigomi wrote:On July 27 2012 14:24 puppykiller wrote:Hi I work out every other day. I don't really lift weights, just lots of sit-upy push-upy things. Currently part of my routine is this: 8 min ab workout level 2does anyone know of an effective ab routine that takes less time? It's nice that I can do a ton of push-ups in a short amount of time and move on with my routine. I hate that the only thing I know of that really affects my abs significantly requires so many reps and takes so much time comparative to the other things that I do. To answer your question directly, have you tried legraises? Lie flat on your back with your legs straight, then raise your feet until they're at a 90 degree angle (i.e. pointing at the roof) before lowering them back down. Take two seconds to go up and two seconds down. If that's still too easy, try hanging leg raises. Find something you can hang from with your body fully extended and raise your legs to a 90 degree angle. Don't use momentum to raise your legs and make sure you take 2 seconds up and 2 seconds down. With that said, what's your goal with the push-upy and sit-upy things? If you're hopeing to build some biceps and abs, you probably won't. Have you ever seen the muscles on a long-distance runner's legs? They're small, lean muscles that don't really stand out, and you're currently doing the long distance equivalent of ab and arm exercises. What you need is more resistance on those exercises rather than more repetitions. Leg raises are a decent start, but with push-ups you need to increase the resistance significantly and find a way to continue increasing the resistance. The easiest way to do that would be to add weights to your push-ups but there are other alternatives if you look at the bodyweight training thread. An even better solution, for both your abs and your other muscles, is just to do weightlifting (which you can read about in the general training recommendations thread). Also, remember that getting a six-pack is probably one of the hardest things to do in training. Six packs are 100% about body fat, so everybody has a six pack, it's just hidden under a layer of fat. To show a six pack, your body fat needs to be around 10% or even lower if your ab muscles are small. That a damn pretty damn low bodyfat percentage. The only real way to lose weight is to eat properly, so if you're serious you should have a look at the nutrition thread. And remember, if you exercise your abs you don't lose fat there, you lose fat from all over your body. If you're like most guys, your abs are the last place you'll lose fat from, so eating properly is really important. I know I answered a ton of questions you didn't ask, and perhaps you knew all of this already, but I hope that helps Thanks for the answers. I am rather lean so I already have a six pack. I just don't like the amount of reps I have to do. I will try out hanging leg raises. I guess I want to have decent sized muscles without really investing in a gym membership or gym materials. I am really toned, just not very bulky. Do you have any recommendations of exercises that do not require a lot of resources but can build bulk?
Thanks eshlow, I'll do some research.
If you're looking for some exercises to do to build muscle, the main thing is you need to keep consistently increasing the resistance/weight. Weighted push-ups are a decent alternative to bench presses while weighted chin-ups are great for your arms, shoulders and back. If you don't have weights, it's easy enough to make weights. A back pack with a 2L bottle of water is 2kg while a 2L bottle of sand topped up with water is roughly 5kg. So with just a few 2L bottles you can go up to 20kg weighted push-ups and chin-ups which is pretty damn heavy.
That said, if you're really serious about bulking, nothing replaces a proper weightlifting program with squats, deadlifts, bench and OHP. Also, as eshlow mentions, you need to eat enough to build muscle, otherwise you'll stay lean and never bulk.
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If i don't eat any grass-fed meat, how much fish oil should i supplement?
Also, not really related, but why is smoking legal? It makes people high, is addictive, and has serious consequences.
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On July 28 2012 08:11 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 21:07 Daigomi wrote:On July 26 2012 10:44 eshlow wrote:
Can he straighten up his back and get a lumbar curve when standing up straight?
If so, just really tight hamstrings Yeah, I'm pretty sure he can. I'm not sure if this is relevant to tight hamstrings, but he can squat (high bar) below parallel with a straight back as well. How would one go about making the hamstrings less tight? Any hamstring stretch is fine Or you can do something like romanian deadlifts focusing on getting lower with good form when you can feel the stretch on the hammies
I've also found this very helpful, when done consistently. Stretching didn't work out too well for me but I also had a hamstring tear so I wouldn't expect it to in the first place.
http://www.mobilitywod.com/2010/12/episode-104-hammer-your-high-hammy.html
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On July 28 2012 12:15 Release wrote:
If i don't eat any grass-fed meat, how much fish oil should i supplement?
Also, not really related, but why is smoking legal? It makes people high, is addictive, and has serious consequences.
What gives you/the government the right to say what people are allowed to put in their body? Although second hand smoke is definitely a good argument against that.
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On July 29 2012 08:05 leere wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2012 12:15 Release wrote:
If i don't eat any grass-fed meat, how much fish oil should i supplement?
Also, not really related, but why is smoking legal? It makes people high, is addictive, and has serious consequences. What gives you/the government the right to say what people are allowed to put in their body? Although second hand smoke is definitely a good argument against that.
They already do anyways lol, what makes smoke so bad underage compared to overage? Same for drinking (just examples)
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If smoking is legal, why not all of those other drugs?
If all of those other drugs are illegal, why not smoking?
I mean we hear about lawsuits against big smoking companies all the time. Is smoking legal because the big companies have good lawyers? Or is there a medical reason explaining why smoking is better than the other drugs?
I didn't mean for my statement to belittle smoking. Just inquiring.
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On July 29 2012 08:44 Release wrote:
If smoking is legal, why not all of those other drugs?
If all of those other drugs are illegal, why not smoking?
I mean we hear about lawsuits against big smoking companies all the time. Is smoking legal because the big companies have good lawyers? Or is there a medical reason explaining why smoking is better than the other drugs?
I didn't mean for my statement to belittle smoking. Just inquiring.
I think that this question is only loosely tied to this thread topic and that you will be unlikely to find an answer here that is anything more than just speculative reasoning.
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On July 29 2012 08:44 Release wrote:
If smoking is legal, why not all of those other drugs?
If all of those other drugs are illegal, why not smoking?
I mean we hear about lawsuits against big smoking companies all the time. Is smoking legal because the big companies have good lawyers? Or is there a medical reason explaining why smoking is better than the other drugs?
I didn't mean for my statement to belittle smoking. Just inquiring.
This probably isn't the ideal thread for this discussion, but smoking has been around for far too long to simply ban off. It's way too widespread and common to simply deny. Of course this doesn't justify it IMO or make it any better than some other drugs, but some countries have been taking measures to gradually decrease smoking. More and more areas are restricted from smoking, in many countries it is illegal to advertise etc. Something so widespread can only be dealt with small steps at a time.
However, smoking (I assume you are talking about cigarettes, not weed) generally does not cloud one's judgement. A person is unlikely to cause another person harm because of smoking, except passive smoking, but even then the other person usually has the choice to leave. The physical harm it does to the body is common knowledge, but that is one's own body.
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Keep the thread on topic people. I think it's fine to create a new topic for it, but it's not really a "Simple Question" or directly related to TLHF. General seems like the more appropriate place for this discssuion.
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On July 29 2012 19:37 Daigomi wrote:
Keep the thread on topic people. I think it's fine to create a new topic for it, but it's not really a "Simple Question" or directly related to TLHF. General seems like the more appropriate place for this discssuion.
Oh, I don't know, TLHF seems like a better place to keep the discussion sane, IMO.
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TL;DR: I'm seeking help with finding (or deciding) on a training regime. Please read on to learn about my background before advising me. I hit a wall after my Rugby related injury, and I'm already fully recovered. However, I lost the momentum of my training and I fell into a slump.
I credit a lot of my strength and training success to the Starting Strength program. I was 175lb (back squat: 260lb 3x5 & deadlift: 315). I was then injured. My diet went array (partly due to food intake not being as necessary without working out), and I haven't gotten back into it. I did SS for 4 years. Should I restart it? What would you recommend I do?
I don't have a body builder mentality. Although, I don't mind building a nice psychique, I prefer to train like an athlete. I was thinking about gymnastics as a means of training.
Thanks.
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On July 30 2012 15:52 Invictus212 wrote:
TL;DR: I'm seeking help with finding (or deciding) on a training regime. Please read on to learn about my background before advising me. I hit a wall after my Rugby related injury, and I'm already fully recovered. However, I lost the momentum of my training and I fell into a slump.
I credit a lot of my strength and training success to the Starting Strength program. I was 175lb (back squat: 260lb 3x5 & deadlift: 315). I was then injured. My diet went array (partly due to food intake not being as necessary without working out), and I haven't gotten back into it. I did SS for 4 years. Should I restart it? What would you recommend I do?
I don't have a body builder mentality. Although, I don't mind building a nice psychique, I prefer to train like an athlete. I was thinking about gymnastics as a means of training.
Thanks.
For someone at your stage I'd usually suggest SS, but I'm not sure how successful it's been for you. Your progress on SS seems like it was quite slow? Did you really increase the weight every time you succeeded and eat as much as recommended? I know different people aren't perfectly comparable, but I've been doing SS for only 10 months, weigh exactly the same as you, and my squat is 305lb 3x5 and my DL is 395lb. I dunno, your progress just seems very slow for 4 years.
Can you maybe describe how you did SS? Because either you did something wrong (no offense, people make mistakes!), or the program is completely unsuited to you.
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