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Release
United States4397 Posts
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kastoob
Australia153 Posts
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
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blug
Australia623 Posts
Anyways, gonna ask a question. Theoretically, if I ate nothing but pure fat could I lose/maintain weight? Let's say I am sitting on 1700 calories a day to lose weight and all I ate was pure fat (Hypothetical, wouldn't actually do it) would I still lose weight? It would be incredibly unhealthy I'm sure and your heart would explode. Was just curious, because I feel I added a bit to much olive oil to my soup I made xD. (Was just wondering if this would effect the weight loss process because the olive oil isn't calory dense.) | ||
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Malinor
Germany4732 Posts
On July 25 2012 13:15 blug wrote: Hey, I'm losing a few pounds because I've been eating shit for the last couple of weeks. Anyways, gonna ask a question. Theoretically, if I ate nothing but pure fat could I lose/maintain weight? Let's say I am sitting on 1700 calories a day to lose weight and all I ate was pure fat (Hypothetical, wouldn't actually do it) would I still lose weight? It would be incredibly unhealthy I'm sure and your heart would explode. Was just curious, because I feel I added a bit to much olive oil to my soup I made xD. (Was just wondering if this would effect the weight loss process because the olive oil isn't calory dense.) Yes, you would lose weight. And what kind of olive oil is not calory dense? The definition of oil basically is caloric density (I am probably reading that wrong somehow). | ||
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blug
Australia623 Posts
On July 25 2012 17:56 Malinor wrote: Yes, you would lose weight. And what kind of olive oil is not calory dense? The definition of oil basically is caloric density (I am probably reading that wrong somehow). Sorry I wrote that wrong, I meant that the amount of olive oil I was using it didn't really matter if I had a little bit extra because it wasn't much. Cheers for the info though. | ||
Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
Does anyone know what exactly the relative advantages and disadvantages are of doing sumo deadlifts instead of conventional deadlifts (as part of a normal SS program)? Should I suggest something else, or will this make a decent substitute? | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On July 25 2012 23:51 Daigomi wrote: My friend has a permanent curve in his lower back which means his lower back is always rounded when deadlifting. I've tried every piece of advice I know of to get him to straighten it out, but he just can't get his back flat without going into a squat position. Instead of having him do a conventional deadlift from a squat position, I suggested doing sumo deadlifts since I know that uses a similar back position. Does anyone know what exactly the relative advantages and disadvantages are of doing sumo deadlifts instead of conventional deadlifts (as part of a normal SS program)? Should I suggest something else, or will this make a decent substitute? Sumo deadlift puts more stress on calves, glutes and legs overall, with less work of the back. I think he should just try regular deadlifts and see where he gets (i.e pain arises or not, his back shouldn't just pop and turn him into a cripple because of some rounding). Try to teach him to use his abs and be fucking tight, most/many good pullers have really rounded backs. | ||
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
On July 25 2012 23:51 Daigomi wrote: My friend has a permanent curve in his lower back which means his lower back is always rounded when deadlifting. I've tried every piece of advice I know of to get him to straighten it out, but he just can't get his back flat without going into a squat position. Instead of having him do a conventional deadlift from a squat position, I suggested doing sumo deadlifts since I know that uses a similar back position. Does anyone know what exactly the relative advantages and disadvantages are of doing sumo deadlifts instead of conventional deadlifts (as part of a normal SS program)? Should I suggest something else, or will this make a decent substitute? Is the problem posterior pelvic tilt that is making his lower back curve out? Or is there something wrong with his actual vetebrae? I know this isn't what you asked for but I highly recommend Esther Gokhale for a fresh look on ways to improve your posture and thus your health. It's a lot of work and a very gradual process, so he'd actually have to want to change. | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
I don't have a video of him deadlifting, but I grabbed a screenshot from a PC which shows the problem: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Fi1Jj.jpg) He literally can't get his back straighter than that without dropping his hips to parallel. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
If so, just really tight hamstrings | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On July 26 2012 10:44 eshlow wrote: Can he straighten up his back and get a lumbar curve when standing up straight? If so, just really tight hamstrings Yeah, I'm pretty sure he can. I'm not sure if this is relevant to tight hamstrings, but he can squat (high bar) below parallel with a straight back as well. How would one go about making the hamstrings less tight? | ||
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BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
Too much droppage? Also do you guys have an issue with newbie videos like this clogging up the boards? I've seen a few lately and I myself have posted some. I want to make sure that this is not cluttering things up for the experienced people. | ||
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On July 26 2012 21:59 BoxingKangaroo wrote: Deadlifts: 'Drop' the weight (i.e. little resistance) or lower it down? I've seen some debate on this on the internet. Anyone care to weigh in? Here's me doing some: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c99rcv4doFU Too much droppage? Also do you guys have an issue with newbie videos like this clogging up the boards? I've seen a few lately and I myself have posted some. I want to make sure that this is not cluttering things up for the experienced people. There's no problem with "newbie" videos clogging up the boards. One of the primary purposes of the TLHF is to help us newbies improve and a good way to do that is through videos. Seriously, post as many as you need to post IMO. Personally, I pretty much just drop the weight. I've read about too many people getting injured trying to control the drop, and there doesn't seem to be any significant benefits to controlling it, so I just control it enough to make sure I don't hit myself on the way down. + Show Spoiler [Video of me putting the bar down] + Ignore the back rounding :p it was 1RM attempt there so the general technique is shit. Since you posted the video, I hope you don't mind if I comment on your technique. You seem to be setting up a bit too far away from the bar. You should start with your shins 1 inch away from the bar and only bend your knees until your shins touch the bar (without pushing it forward). That's going to move your ass up a bit and have your back more parallel with the floor which increases the leverage. Also, try to focus on pushing your hips forward a bit more, rather than pulling the bar towards your hips. I always tell myself to try to fuck the bar, i.e. try as hard as you can to thrust your hips into the bar. If you look at your current action, your legs straighten first and then you straighten your back by pulling it backwards while pushing forward with your hips slightly. What I'm saying is you should push forward with your hips more and start doing it a bit earlier (before your legs are straight). If you check the rep I'm doing in the video, you'll see that once the bar goes over my knees it's really digging into my thighs as I try to push my hips forward. Hope that helps! | ||
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BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
On July 26 2012 22:35 Daigomi wrote: There's no problem with "newbie" videos clogging up the boards. One of the primary purposes of the TLHF is to help us newbies improve and a good way to do that is through videos. Seriously, post as many as you need to post IMO. Personally, I pretty much just drop the weight. I've read about too many people getting injured trying to control the drop, and there doesn't seem to be any significant benefits to controlling it, so I just control it enough to make sure I don't hit myself on the way down. + Show Spoiler [Video of me putting the bar down] + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLyPoeVbms4 Ignore the back rounding :p it was 1RM attempt there so the general technique is shit. Since you posted the video, I hope you don't mind if I comment on your technique. You seem to be setting up a bit too far away from the bar. You should start with your shins 1 inch away from the bar and only bend your knees until your shins touch the bar (without pushing it forward). That's going to move your ass up a bit and have your back more parallel with the floor which increases the leverage. Also, try to focus on pushing your hips forward a bit more, rather than pulling the bar towards your hips. I always tell myself to try to fuck the bar, i.e. try as hard as you can to thrust your hips into the bar. If you look at your current action, your legs straighten first and then you straighten your back by pulling it backwards while pushing forward with your hips slightly. What I'm saying is you should push forward with your hips more and start doing it a bit earlier (before your legs are straight). If you check the rep I'm doing in the video, you'll see that once the bar goes over my knees it's really digging into my thighs as I try to push my hips forward. Hope that helps! Comments always welcome! Yeah I thought to myself after watching the video, I'm probably too far from the bar. I do focus on getting the bar moving with my legs first, I thought this was proper technique? Maybe I'm focusing on that too much? | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On July 26 2012 23:42 BoxingKangaroo wrote: Comments always welcome! Yeah I thought to myself after watching the video, I'm probably too far from the bar. I do focus on getting the bar moving with my legs first, I thought this was proper technique? Maybe I'm focusing on that too much? Well, to lift the bar from the floor you're mostly using your legs to push down into the ground. That's the start of the movement. However, the moment the bar is past your knees, you push forward with your hips which automatically straightens your back and lifts the bar up. It's difficult to explain and even harder to show on a video, but if you do it you'll feel the difference. Instead of pulling the bar up your legs with your back, the bar gets pushed up your legs by your hips moving forward. I don't know if you've ever noticed that when you see a heavy deadlift, it often ends with the lifter lying back/pulling his chest back. What actually happens is once the bar gets into lockout position, it stops offering resistance against your hips so you push your hips out from underneath your shoulders/chest, making it look like your chest is pulled back. + Show Spoiler [Video examples] + These videos aren't necessarily perfect examples, but I think they show what I'm trying to say. Decafchicken lifting some heavy weights: GF lifting kinda heavy weights: I think the video with my gf is especially clear, since it's not her 1RM her technique is good and you can clearly see her pushing through with her hips to lift the bar. You'll also notice that once the bar passes her knees, it moves up much more quickly because she can activate the muscles involved in hip drive. | ||
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BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
On July 27 2012 00:18 Daigomi wrote: Well, to lift the bar from the floor you're mostly using your legs to push down into the ground. That's the start of the movement. However, the moment the bar is past your knees, you push forward with your hips which automatically straightens your back and lifts the bar up. It's difficult to explain and even harder to show on a video, but if you do it you'll feel the difference. Instead of pulling the bar up your legs with your back, the bar gets pushed up your legs by your hips moving forward. I don't know if you've ever noticed that when you see a heavy deadlift, it often ends with the lifter lying back/pulling his chest back. What actually happens is once the bar gets into lockout position, it stops offering resistance against your hips so you push your hips out from underneath your shoulders/chest, making it look like your chest is pulled back. + Show Spoiler [Video examples] + These videos aren't necessarily perfect examples, but I think they show what I'm trying to say. Decafchicken lifting some heavy weights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9icMyTX7zro GF lifting kinda heavy weights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Socslwrl6qA I think the video with my gf is especially clear, since it's not her 1RM her technique is good and you can clearly see her pushing through with her hips to lift the bar. You'll also notice that once the bar passes her knees, it moves up much more quickly because she can activate the muscles involved in hip drive. Alright, I'll give it a shot next time I Deadlift. Thanks guys. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
I'm not flexible enough to lower all the way down. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On July 27 2012 11:14 Release wrote: How to drop a deadlift with octagonal weights? If I try dropping, and it happens to land on a corner, sometimes it rolls backwards and whacks my shin. I'm not flexible enough to lower all the way down. Drop it a little in front of you and keep the bar in your hands to control it. Still annoying as hell to have to reposition your feet every rep tho. Wait, what do you mean you're not flexible enough to lower all the way down? How did you start pulling the bar? | ||
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