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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
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XDEKSDEEXD
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On February 02 2016 21:39 zatic wrote: Also, it would be easier to answer if you could be more precise with what you want to achieve. What does "grow muscle" mean to you? What are your goals? Well basically grow muscle and more size, get a bit bigger. For that, do I go 15, 12 ,8 or just go 8, 8, 8? | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On February 03 2016 20:45 Longstory5 wrote: Well basically grow muscle and more size, get a bit bigger. For that, do I go 15, 12 ,8 or just go 8, 8, 8? To make a long story short, don't worry about it and just consistently lift. Experiment with different rep amounts. Just put in the time and effort. A case can be made that the simpler you keep it, the easier it will be to measure progression. Seeing progress can be important to maintaining the habit/routine. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20090 Posts
On February 03 2016 20:45 Longstory5 wrote: Well basically grow muscle and more size, get a bit bigger. For that, do I go 15, 12 ,8 or just go 8, 8, 8? To echo the above, the most important part will be sticking to a program. If that program is 5x5 or 4x8 it's not going to make much of a difference for quite a while. Find a program (there are several in the training rec sticky post) and stick to it. Rep structures like 15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1 is called reverse pyramid and has its merit's as well if you want to google it. | ||
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trulojucreathrma.com
United States327 Posts
On February 03 2016 01:57 RvB wrote: With those kind of things I always ask myself: Do other crazy strong people use them? If the answer is no (always the case tbh lol) it's probably useless. What kind of argument is this? | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On February 06 2016 03:41 trulojucreathrma.com wrote: What kind of argument is this? In sports, "science" is always catching up to experience. To be strong the fastest way is to emulate other strong people, for example. Not read "scientific studies". | ||
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trulojucreathrma.com
United States327 Posts
If you do whatever you think your competition is doing, you will never gain an edge there. | ||
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Philozovic
France1677 Posts
On February 06 2016 05:53 trulojucreathrma.com wrote: At least that is an argument; against what he just said. If you do whatever you think your competition is doing, you will never gain an edge there. As long as you are not better than 99% you absolutely don't need to gain an edge by trying new stuff you just do what the top 1% do. | ||
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trulojucreathrma.com
United States327 Posts
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Philozovic
France1677 Posts
On February 06 2016 08:16 trulojucreathrma.com wrote: You realize that the top 1% and the people that do have the smarts to try new stuff deliberately spread misinformation about what they are doing? Well use electric stomach muscle trainers if you want, I will keep my barbell | ||
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trulojucreathrma.com
United States327 Posts
Wowy. | ||
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Philozovic
France1677 Posts
But frankly the argument is pretty good, basic stuff that top people do or pretend to do is usually good enough | ||
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harrymatrion
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Soap
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DavidLCrawford
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Harris1st
Germany7021 Posts
I'm a lazy person but i reaaaally need to do some training: About me: - I'm 1,81m and about 80kg (metric system for the win :D ) - I'm a hungry person, so i'm not that good with diets ^_^ - I do play some Tennis in the warmer month, maybe once a week but that clearly ins't enough - I don't mind if the training goes where it "hurts" - I do not want to waste 2-3 hours every second day because that would quickly demoralize me. - I can do 30min to 1h on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays/Saturdays - I hate jogging/ running just for jogging/running - Contrary to the above, i don't mind running after every ball in Tennis Equipment: - I do have small dumbbell set (hope thats what this is called) - I could invest some 200-300 bucks if it's worth it - I do have some space that could be used for training, about 3x3m What should i do? I read about TRX (the thing with the slings) Is that any good? | ||
zatic
Zurich15358 Posts
On April 01 2016 20:23 Harris1st wrote: Dunno if this right here of the other thread, but here it goes: I'm a lazy person but i reaaaally need to do some training: Before any of the other stuff you mentioned can be assessed, can you expand on this part. Why do you need training? What kind? What are you looking for? Conditioning, strength, flexibility, weight loss/gain, looks, healthier lifestyle? You need to tell us what you want to achieve first before any advice can be given. Regarding your willingness to invest time/money, just be clear on this: You get out what you put in. If you train little, you will gain little, regardless of your goals. That is not to say your 1 hour every other day can't work for you, but you need to manage expectations. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7021 Posts
On April 01 2016 20:53 zatic wrote: Before any of the other stuff you mentioned can be assessed, can you expand on this part. Why do you need training? What kind? What are you looking for? Conditioning, strength, flexibility, weight loss/gain, looks, healthier lifestyle? You need to tell us what you want to achieve first before any advice can be given. Regarding your willingness to invest time/money, just be clear on this: You get out what you put in. If you train little, you will gain little, regardless of your goals. That is not to say your 1 hour every other day can't work for you, but you need to manage expectations. I do not feel good about myself/ my body right now and i want to change that. I want some general healthyness and maybe a few muscles for the Ladys ^-^, Looks as you put it in your post. I'm not training towards any specific goals beside me feeling good about myself, which is kind of a shaky goal, i admit. I thought i could set achievable goals on specific exercices, like 20 pull ups (can do about 5-6 right now) | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On April 01 2016 20:23 Harris1st wrote: Dunno if this right here of the other thread, but here it goes: I'm a lazy person but i reaaaally need to do some training: About me: - I'm 1,81m and about 80kg (metric system for the win :D ) - I'm a hungry person, so i'm not that good with diets ^_^ - I do play some Tennis in the warmer month, maybe once a week but that clearly ins't enough - I don't mind if the training goes where it "hurts" - I do not want to waste 2-3 hours every second day because that would quickly demoralize me. - I can do 30min to 1h on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays/Saturdays - I hate jogging/ running just for jogging/running - Contrary to the above, i don't mind running after every ball in Tennis Equipment: - I do have small dumbbell set (hope thats what this is called) - I could invest some 200-300 bucks if it's worth it - I do have some space that could be used for training, about 3x3m What should i do? I read about TRX (the thing with the slings) Is that any good? Don't say that again. TRX is for old ladies. Doing strength training with a barbell is your best bet (so it's best to join a gym if you can) Getting a Kettlebell and a skipping rope would be another good way to start, except your strength gains will be capped. | ||
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zatic
Zurich15358 Posts
On April 01 2016 22:50 GoTuNk! wrote: Don't say that again. TRX is for old ladies. Doing strength training with a barbell is your best bet (so it's best to join a gym if you can) Getting a Kettlebell and a skipping rope would be another good way to start, except your strength gains will be capped. Given the limited time you want to invest GotunK is right here. It's kind of the standard advice on this board (and others), but basic barbell strength training will give you the best bang for you buck. 1h 3x per week can actually get you quite far doing just that as long as you are consistent. Check out the general training recommendations, it includes a section on strength training for beginners with links to popular programs like Starting Strength or Stronglifts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/261928-general-training-recommendations | ||
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