On January 16 2016 05:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Diagnosis is your first priority. the question is .. who is the best diagnositician? it damn sure ain't a chiropractor.
I'm not going to my chiro to get cancer diagnosed, it's usually for sports related muscle or joint pain/dysfunction, something my chiro knows plenty enough about to diagnose and help.
i never said he was the best in canada. i stated he is a highly skilled diagnostician... and i found this out via legwork and research. i worked damn hard finding this guy. People need to take responsibility for their health and spend time doing the legwork and research necessary to find the best DR they can.
here is the problem with a chiropractor.. when the only tool you own is a hammer.. everything looks like a nail.
On January 16 2016 05:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Diagnosis is your first priority. the question is .. who is the best diagnositician? it damn sure ain't a chiropractor.
I'm not going to my chiro to get cancer diagnosed, it's usually for sports related muscle or joint pain/dysfunction, something my chiro knows plenty enough about to diagnose and help.
right, and right there u r diagnosing yourself with over-simplified examples. i essentially employ the strategy pro sports teams use when dealing with musculoskeletal issues.
Bo Jackson would've spent the rest of his life in a wheel chair if a chiropractor made the diagnosis of his sore hip. Fortunately, the Oakland Raiders were smart enough to have a more qualified professional examine him.
On January 16 2016 05:36 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i never said he was the best in canada. i stated he is a highly skilled diagnostician... and i found this out via legwork and research. i worked damn hard finding this guy. People need to take responsibility for their health and spend time doing the legwork and research necessary to find the best DR they can.
here is the problem with a chiropractor.. when the only tool you own is a hammer.. everything looks like a nail.
On January 16 2016 05:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Diagnosis is your first priority. the question is .. who is the best diagnositician? it damn sure ain't a chiropractor.
I'm not going to my chiro to get cancer diagnosed, it's usually for sports related muscle or joint pain/dysfunction, something my chiro knows plenty enough about to diagnose and help.
i essentially employ the strategy pro sports teams use when dealing with musculoskeletal issues.
Bo Jackson would've spent the rest of his life in a wheel chair if a chiropractor made the diagnosis of his sore hip. Fortunately, the Oakland Raiders were smart enough to have a more qualified professional examine him.
Nobody goes to a chiro after dislocating their hip. And any chiro who pretends they are the ones that should diagnose and care for that injury is a bad doctor. And I think we've established that bad doctors are bad and good doctors are good.
If i went to a GP -> ortho -> radiologist -> PT every time I had a musculature issue I'd be broke and perpetually waiting. Yes, serious issues need to be addressed by specialists. If I have a bit of back pain because I have some muscular imbalances/patterns then a good chiro is a perfectly suitable.
On January 16 2016 05:36 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i never said he was the best in canada. i stated he is a highly skilled diagnostician... and i found this out via legwork and research. i worked damn hard finding this guy. People need to take responsibility for their health and spend time doing the legwork and research necessary to find the best DR they can.
here is the problem with a chiropractor.. when the only tool you own is a hammer.. everything looks like a nail.
On January 16 2016 05:35 decafchicken wrote:
On January 16 2016 05:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Diagnosis is your first priority. the question is .. who is the best diagnositician? it damn sure ain't a chiropractor.
I'm not going to my chiro to get cancer diagnosed, it's usually for sports related muscle or joint pain/dysfunction, something my chiro knows plenty enough about to diagnose and help.
i essentially employ the strategy pro sports teams use when dealing with musculoskeletal issues.
Bo Jackson would've spent the rest of his life in a wheel chair if a chiropractor made the diagnosis of his sore hip. Fortunately, the Oakland Raiders were smart enough to have a more qualified professional examine him.
Nobody goes to a chiro after dislocating their hip. And any chiro who pretends they are the ones that should diagnose and care for that injury is a bad doctor. And I think we've established that bad doctors are bad and good doctors are good.
If i went to a GP -> ortho -> radiologist -> PT every time I had a musculature issue I'd be broke and perpetually waiting. Yes, serious issues need to be addressed by specialists. If I have a bit of back pain because I have some muscular imbalances/patterns then a good chiro is a perfectly suitable.
assuming every GP visit automatically results in an appointment with an orthopeadic surgeon and a radiologist evaluating an MRI/X-Ray/Ultrasound is a straw man.
every Sports Medicine Clinic in Ontario and most Clinics throughout North America start you off with a visit with a GP/Physician who has an 8 month certificate in sports medicine. They diagnose and recommend a course of treatment. At the clinic are physiotherapists, acupuncturists, chiros, etc etc all at their disposal at a Sports Medicine Clinic. you may indeed end up going to a chiropractor for treatment after the MD examines you.
that's my favoured method of diagnosing a suspected musculoskeletal issue. its the straight forward common sense approach. relying on a chiropractor for initial injury diagnossis is a bad move. no one with insurance does it.
i'd never go to a Sports Medicine Clinic whose first point of contact was not an MD, If a Sports Medicine Clinic wanted my initial visit to be with a Chiro for diagnosis and treatment plan i'd leave and find any one of 3485398759847 Sports Med. Clinics that start you off with a MD who specializes in diagnosis.
if you have anything else wrong with you .. and i mean ANYTHING... high blood pressure, low blood pressure, heart murmur, diabetes, hypoglycemia , recent wisdom tooth extraction, swollen glands, fluid retention issues, swollen tonsils and any one of 10,000 other medical issues ... going to a chiropractor for any recent suspected musculoskeletal issue is an idiot move.
which again , is yet another reason why Sports Medicine Clinics start you off with a diagnosis by an MD and not a chiro. The primary reason is that the GP with Sports Med Certification is a far better diagnostician than a chiropractor.
if you want your initial visit to be with a chiropractor on the cheap because you don't have insurance then i have 2 words for you
Ok, I went to a GP. He x-rayed my back to make sure I didn't have any bulging discs, gave me Naproxen and a muscle relaxant and told me to come back in 6 months if it still hurt. What do? The only thing GPs are interested in in this area is getting as many Medicaid recipients as they can through the door.
I'd also suggest that a chiropractor is not radically different than self-diagnosing through a Kelly Starrett video or any of the other numerous dubious things we do here.
as i stated in the post above.... if i didn't have a really top notch GP ...
i'd go to a Sports Medicine clinic where u start with a GP who has sports medicine training. on site at the clinic are physiotherapists, an orthopeadic surgeon, an acupuncturist, a chiropractor. and maybe a guy who can do prolotherapy.
Sports Medicine GPs don't do the "see u in 6 months" thing they want u back on the field of play at 100% full playing capacity ASAP.
How do you fit core into your workout routine? Currently I'm only doing upper body(bench, curls, etc.) and lower body(squats, calf raises, etc.) days, but I would like to put core in there somewhere. Is it possible to split core between 2 days like that? Do you have a dedicated core day?
On a related note, what exercises would you recommend for core?
On an unrelated note, I just did a PR 255x5 squat as part of a pyramid set, so I'm pretty happy!
1. Protein. Does it have to be before/during/after workout? Or there is no magic timing, as long as you maintain your protein intake throughout the day you should be ok?
2. When you want to grow muscle, is it best to lift heavy for say, 8 reps and rest and repeat? Or is it best to go 15 relatively light, then 12 medium and 8 heavy?
3. Machine vs dumbbells. Which is better? There is a machine for chest press/incline chest press. How does this compare to doing chest press with dumbbells? Similarly, using cables for, say, bicep curls. How does this compare vs using traditional dumbbells for bicep curls?
On February 01 2016 19:46 Longstory5 wrote: Guys, I have three simple questions
1. Protein. Does it have to be before/during/after workout? Or there is no magic timing, as long as you maintain your protein intake throughout the day you should be ok?
2. When you want to grow muscle, is it best to lift heavy for say, 8 reps and rest and repeat? Or is it best to go 15 relatively light, then 12 medium and 8 heavy?
3. Machine vs dumbbells. Which is better? There is a machine for chest press/incline chest press. How does this compare to doing chest press with dumbbells? Similarly, using cables for, say, bicep curls. How does this compare vs using traditional dumbbells for bicep curls?
Thanks guys.
1) Constant protein throughout the day, totaling about 1g/lb of bodyweight. I have a whey protein shake w/ water before/during my workout and then protein the form of meat or w/e post workout. Casein protein preferably before bed.
2) In simple terms, lower reps (1-3) with heavier weights builds more max strength, medium reps (5-8) builds strength and size, higher reps (8-12) is more size focused and over that is pretty much just endurance. Most people here will recommend a 5x5 rep scheme as it builds a nice foundation of strength and noticeable size gains before moving on to a more strength(power lifting, weightlifting, etc) or body building program.
3) Free weights (barbell, dumbell, kettlebell) almost always >>> machines, except in some rare cases like working around injuries or rehab. Machines make you move in unnatural patterns and your body doesn't work your stabilizing muscles which are very important.
On February 01 2016 19:46 Longstory5 wrote: Guys, I have three simple questions
1. Protein. Does it have to be before/during/after workout? Or there is no magic timing, as long as you maintain your protein intake throughout the day you should be ok?
2. When you want to grow muscle, is it best to lift heavy for say, 8 reps and rest and repeat? Or is it best to go 15 relatively light, then 12 medium and 8 heavy?
3. Machine vs dumbbells. Which is better? There is a machine for chest press/incline chest press. How does this compare to doing chest press with dumbbells? Similarly, using cables for, say, bicep curls. How does this compare vs using traditional dumbbells for bicep curls?
Thanks guys.
1) Constant protein throughout the day, totaling about 1g/lb of bodyweight. I have a whey protein shake w/ water before/during my workout and then protein the form of meat or w/e post workout. Casein protein preferably before bed.
2) In simple terms, lower reps (1-3) with heavier weights builds more max strength, medium reps (5-8) builds strength and size, higher reps (8-12) is more size focused and over that is pretty much just endurance. Most people here will recommend a 5x5 rep scheme as it builds a nice foundation of strength and noticeable size gains before moving on to a more strength(power lifting, weightlifting, etc) or body building program.
3) Free weights (barbell, dumbell, kettlebell) almost always >>> machines, except in some rare cases like working around injuries or rehab. Machines make you move in unnatural patterns and your body doesn't work your stabilizing muscles which are very important.
Thanks friend. I understand questions 1 and 3 now.
However, question 2 is still confusing to me. So, should I go 8 reps, rest repeat a few times, or go 15, rest, 12, rest, 8?
On February 01 2016 19:46 Longstory5 wrote: Guys, I have three simple questions
1. Protein. Does it have to be before/during/after workout? Or there is no magic timing, as long as you maintain your protein intake throughout the day you should be ok?
2. When you want to grow muscle, is it best to lift heavy for say, 8 reps and rest and repeat? Or is it best to go 15 relatively light, then 12 medium and 8 heavy?
3. Machine vs dumbbells. Which is better? There is a machine for chest press/incline chest press. How does this compare to doing chest press with dumbbells? Similarly, using cables for, say, bicep curls. How does this compare vs using traditional dumbbells for bicep curls?
Thanks guys.
1) Constant protein throughout the day, totaling about 1g/lb of bodyweight. I have a whey protein shake w/ water before/during my workout and then protein the form of meat or w/e post workout. Casein protein preferably before bed.
2) In simple terms, lower reps (1-3) with heavier weights builds more max strength, medium reps (5-8) builds strength and size, higher reps (8-12) is more size focused and over that is pretty much just endurance. Most people here will recommend a 5x5 rep scheme as it builds a nice foundation of strength and noticeable size gains before moving on to a more strength(power lifting, weightlifting, etc) or body building program.
3) Free weights (barbell, dumbell, kettlebell) almost always >>> machines, except in some rare cases like working around injuries or rehab. Machines make you move in unnatural patterns and your body doesn't work your stabilizing muscles which are very important.
Thanks friend. I understand questions 1 and 3 now.
However, question 2 is still confusing to me. So, should I go 8 reps, rest repeat a few times, or go 15, rest, 12, rest, 8?
I'd recommend giving the general training advice sticky a read through to answer your question a bit better:
Also, it would be easier to answer if you could be more precise with what you want to achieve. What does "grow muscle" mean to you? What are your goals?
I had a discussion with a colleague today about electric stomach muscle trainers. Do those things actually work to build muscle? I'm quite sure they don't burn any fat, but I can imagine that they help build muscle in addition to other exercises. Colleague said they are 100% useless, don't build muscle, don't burn fat and are just expensive self flagellation.
With those kind of things I always ask myself: Do other crazy strong people use them? If the answer is no (always the case tbh lol) it's probably useless.