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Levythenobz
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada42 Posts
June 14 2013 00:13 GMT
#2781
When doing starting strenght, is there a point when you start warming up with more weight than just the bar?
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
June 14 2013 02:42 GMT
#2782
Sometimes, it's a matter of preference really, I find the bar i really nice just to loosen up and get used to the right positions though, you needn't wait very long between sets or even take the reps slow eventually though. If you feel fine starting with more than just the bar, go for it, as long as you're sufficiently warming up and not exposing yourself to the possibility of injury
VTFlow
Profile Joined November 2010
United States84 Posts
June 14 2013 03:00 GMT
#2783
The first warm up set should always be with the empty bar no matter how advanced you become. For your next warm up sets you can increase the weight more than you would in previous weeks though if you've gotten significantly stronger
rEalGuapo
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany832 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 14:26:16
June 14 2013 14:25 GMT
#2784
On June 14 2013 09:13 Levythenobz wrote:
When doing starting strenght, is there a point when you start warming up with more weight than just the bar?


I usually go for 2 sets of 5 with the empty bar and then increase by something like 25 pound steps
1 set of 4/3/2/1 reps, depending on how close to your working weight you are.

e.g. 200 pounds bench:
2x5 empty bar (45p)
3 reps of 80
2 reps of 120
1 rep of 160

something like that seems to work pretty well for me.

A sepcific point is hard to define, but I think as soon as you are at bodyweight/over bodyweight at an exercise is the point I would say warmups are a must-do.
For bench sooner.
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
June 17 2013 01:09 GMT
#2785
My friend and I started doing the 5x5 stronglift program for about 2 months basically full body workouts and now we think its time to do individual workouts (e.g. (I don't know how it works) but lets say; monday: chest/biceps, tuesday: back/triceps, wednesday: legs/core. I don't know the correct combos people do.
Should we starting doing individual workout for certain body parts on different days or should we continue our full body work out.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
June 17 2013 01:58 GMT
#2786
As someone who does brosplits let me tell you that for someone who is not on juice, the traditional bodybuilding split is inferior to a legs push pull routine or 5/3/1 type program.

I say stick with SL for now. Assuming the two of you are not genetic freaks 2 months is way too short a time for you to graduate from beginner to intermediate.

Sausafeg
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom54 Posts
June 17 2013 02:21 GMT
#2787
I've just started looking into regular weightlifting and I tried doing squats for the first time today. I looked at Starting Strength and I find it very hard to get the bar into the right place with my hands and my back, and the bar always seems to be digging into my neck/back and is quite painful sometimes.

Should I continue trying to squat even if I can't physically get the bar in the correct position and are there some good flexibility exercises/stretches I can do so that it is easier to get the bar into the right place?
skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
June 17 2013 03:26 GMT
#2788
On June 17 2013 11:21 Sausafeg wrote:
I've just started looking into regular weightlifting and I tried doing squats for the first time today. I looked at Starting Strength and I find it very hard to get the bar into the right place with my hands and my back, and the bar always seems to be digging into my neck/back and is quite painful sometimes.

Should I continue trying to squat even if I can't physically get the bar in the correct position and are there some good flexibility exercises/stretches I can do so that it is easier to get the bar into the right place?


Keep at it, this video helped me greatly
, also when doing high bar squats I find it helps a lot to have a close grip, almost close to shoulders so that your muscles are flexed when you rest the bar on them. NEVER HAVE THE BAR REST ON YOUR NECK OR SPINE.
Its not only the rain that brings the thunder
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 07:07:44
June 17 2013 07:06 GMT
#2789
does anyone know how and if and how women with cellulite can benefit from strength training? my gut tells me that stronger muscle tissue and reduced fat should help the skin become smoother. but do you train for strength or hypertrophy? squats and deadlifts or some other exercises? 1-5reps or 8-10 reps? is there any scientific evidence at all?
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 13:31:37
June 17 2013 08:12 GMT
#2790
NSFW+ Show Spoiler +
Scientific evidence
for squats.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 17 2013 13:10 GMT
#2791
Lol nsfw that please. Was expecting picture of toddler or pubmed article
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
June 17 2013 13:35 GMT
#2792
Sorry i always forget that that page is practically softcore.... =/
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
June 17 2013 17:26 GMT
#2793
Hey TL,

So I've checked out the entire health thread OPs and decided to ask you experts about how I should start things up.
I would like to receive some help on general/detailed aspects of work out training and daily routines.

I should list what I can do now and my goals so you guys have some general idea about giving good advice.

Weight: 72kg Height: 180cm
My bodyshape is very lean, but quite a belly. I can't fit into my size 30 (US/Canada size) pants I used to wear last year... that is why I am starting again!
So, I am a lean/lanky type with fat belly xD

Daily routine: I sit all day at work front of a computer. When I get home, I either do excercise, go out, or play games.. I sleep around 12 and wake up around 7.
Eating habit: I do not eat any junk food, or try not to. I barely drink pops/soda (max once a week), and barely any beer too. I try to eat healthy, but I haven't seen any belly fat losses from eating right. I've been trying to cut down on salts in my meals.

Injuries: I used to play tennis very competitively, and injured my right elbow. I can't really do bicep curls or proper push ups without feeling my elbow bone messing up. I can sort of do hammer curls and pushups with my fist. Elbow is fine as long as I don't extend over 90 degrees (so I can't put dumbbell down all the way while doing curls)

Past workout history:
I worked out in a gym until last year for a little while. I had to quit because I had to go learn golfing which cut into my schedule alot.
I played lots of sports and all that but that was long long time ago. I've also done p90x for about 2 months years ago.

What I can do now (in 3 sets of 8 reps)
Bench press: with dumbbells maybe 50-55 pounds (~25kg, 50kg total) each as of last year May. Now, maybe 40-45 pounds on each hand?
with a barbell, I can do 1 plate barely... (that is 60kg total i believe)

Pull up: I can barely do 3 of my own bodyweight. T_T

Leg Press: I think around 2 plates on each side so my guess is around 80-100kg.

Bicep curl: 35 pounds

Squat/Deadlift/etc: not sure I haven't really done them.

Cardio: I suck at long distance running.


Goals:
I want a bit broader shoulder, bigger chest, bit bigger arms so when I wear shirts, I'll look fit.
I haven't particularly thought of lower body. I would be very sad if I won't fit into my slim jeans but I guess leg workout is necessary.
But most of all, I really want to have flat stomach again! Doesn't have to be 6 pac abs, flat ab is fine!


I really don't know how to set up my workout routine. I've heard from so many different people about different workout routines.. like afterburn effect to cardio being good/bad and just all over the place.
How should I set up my weight routine? I have a gym membership until the end of December, which has all equipments I think.

From seeing this thread, it looks like cardio is useless. So perhaps, I should focus on weights.

Few things I am curious are:

How do people keep working out same area for an hour? I honestly get so tired and exhausted that I can't lift or work out on same area for over 30-40 minutes.
Also, how long do you guys rest between reps? When people say "Bench 3x5" for instance, do you just do bench 3 sets of 5 reps then move onto next workout? Or do you mix them up??
And finally, do you guys bring your own bodywash and extra underwear to the gym for shower? I've never taken a shower at a gym before (my old gym was a close walking distance from home, not the new one!)

Thank you all so much in advance!!
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
June 19 2013 11:45 GMT
#2794
Hi I try to workout three times a week, i am a ahrdgainer so I try to do as many compound exercies as I can!

workout 1: Chest and Triceps

work out 2: Biceps and Back

wokour 3: Legs, Core Abs

When should I try to fit in more shoulders? During chest/tricep day or bicep back day?

Also my wrists seem to hurt the heavier weight I go bench pressing... could this be down to have skinny arms? Should I try get more strength in my forearms before I go heavier? I can 3x8 @ 60kg no problem and did 3x5 @65kg the other day but the minute I try 70kg it seems my wrists just can do it, yet my arms and chest seem fine!
Live and Let Die!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 19 2013 14:26 GMT
#2795
Regarding the wrist pain, when you bench are your wrists and forearms in line? Some people will have their hand bent backwards and this obviously becomes a problem as you increase weight. I guess you can imagine it should look like your arm is punching something. You wouldn't punch something with your palm up in a fist. If your in the correct position there should be no reason to get wrist pain unless there's something else going on and pressing is aggravating it in general.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
June 19 2013 15:44 GMT
#2796
Where they have the weights/etc in my gym, there isn't any open area to do deadlifts or anything like that. They have several setups for benching, and other similar exercises only. How can a gym not have an open spot to do exercises lifting weights from the floor? Maybe I'll take a picture with my phone and show it.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
June 19 2013 16:21 GMT
#2797
In that case i usually just take one of the bench press/squatrack or w/e barbells and find an area to do deadlifts in, they don't take much room just enough for you and the barbell.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
June 19 2013 17:54 GMT
#2798
On June 18 2013 02:26 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
Hey TL,

So I've checked out the entire health thread OPs and decided to ask you experts about how I should start things up.
I would like to receive some help on general/detailed aspects of work out training and daily routines.

I should list what I can do now and my goals so you guys have some general idea about giving good advice.

Weight: 72kg Height: 180cm
My bodyshape is very lean, but quite a belly. I can't fit into my size 30 (US/Canada size) pants I used to wear last year... that is why I am starting again!
So, I am a lean/lanky type with fat belly xD

Daily routine: I sit all day at work front of a computer. When I get home, I either do excercise, go out, or play games.. I sleep around 12 and wake up around 7.
Eating habit: I do not eat any junk food, or try not to. I barely drink pops/soda (max once a week), and barely any beer too. I try to eat healthy, but I haven't seen any belly fat losses from eating right. I've been trying to cut down on salts in my meals.

try actually tracking how many calories you eat. also, what is your diet like?


Goals:
I want a bit broader shoulder, bigger chest, bit bigger arms so when I wear shirts, I'll look fit.
I haven't particularly thought of lower body. I would be very sad if I won't fit into my slim jeans but I guess leg workout is necessary.
But most of all, I really want to have flat stomach again! Doesn't have to be 6 pac abs, flat ab is fine!

definitely track what you're eating and google up a calculator to see how many calories you burn each day.


I really don't know how to set up my workout routine. I've heard from so many different people about different workout routines.. like afterburn effect to cardio being good/bad and just all over the place.
How should I set up my weight routine? I have a gym membership until the end of December, which has all equipments I think.

since you are skinny-fat (me too ^__^) and want bigger shoulder/arms/etc, i would suggest you do SL 5x5, coupled with a few assistance/isolation exercises. just follow the SL 5x5 program, and add in some extras like bicep curls, tricep extensions, etc, probably using a 3x8 rep range.


From seeing this thread, it looks like cardio is useless. So perhaps, I should focus on weights.

it's not. it depends on what your goals are. cardio is great for your health. cardio is just not that effective at what you in particular are looking to do (lose the belly fat, get big muscles). you can certainly do a bit of cardio on your rest days.


How do people keep working out same area for an hour? I honestly get so tired and exhausted that I can't lift or work out on same area for over 30-40 minutes.

depends on how intensely you are using your muscles and nervous system. if you do something that is really taxing, like lifting 85% of your max, then youll be exhausted really quickly. if you're just banging out high reps of a light weight, you can work that area for a really long time and not feel much.


Also, how long do you guys rest between reps? When people say "Bench 3x5" for instance, do you just do bench 3 sets of 5 reps then move onto next workout? Or do you mix them up??

personally, i mix them up just to save time. if i'm doing dips, pistols, pullups, and deadlifts, ill do one set of dips, then one set of pistols, then one set of pullups, then one set of deadlifts, and then repeat. rest interval depends on your goals. if you are aiming for strength (heavy weights), you can rest longer, like 3 or 4 minutes. if you are aiming for hypertrophy (higher rep ranges, like 8 to 12), you'll want to keep your rest intervals shorter.

Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
June 19 2013 19:38 GMT
#2799
On June 19 2013 23:26 mordek wrote:
Regarding the wrist pain, when you bench are your wrists and forearms in line? Some people will have their hand bent backwards and this obviously becomes a problem as you increase weight. I guess you can imagine it should look like your arm is punching something. You wouldn't punch something with your palm up in a fist. If your in the correct position there should be no reason to get wrist pain unless there's something else going on and pressing is aggravating it in general.


well in the gym today it does infact look like my wrists are going backwards instead of straight up the heavier the weight... whats the issue there then? my wrists are too weak for the weights or? I was focusing on keeping them as straight and after doing 6x60kg no problems and my first 6x65kg fine towards the end of the third set it seemed to start curling towards me instead of being straight up...

Shoudl I start back at 60kg till I can keep my wrists straight for every rep?
Live and Let Die!
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 20 2013 12:48 GMT
#2800
On June 20 2013 04:38 Tommylew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 23:26 mordek wrote:
Regarding the wrist pain, when you bench are your wrists and forearms in line? Some people will have their hand bent backwards and this obviously becomes a problem as you increase weight. I guess you can imagine it should look like your arm is punching something. You wouldn't punch something with your palm up in a fist. If your in the correct position there should be no reason to get wrist pain unless there's something else going on and pressing is aggravating it in general.


well in the gym today it does infact look like my wrists are going backwards instead of straight up the heavier the weight... whats the issue there then? my wrists are too weak for the weights or? I was focusing on keeping them as straight and after doing 6x60kg no problems and my first 6x65kg fine towards the end of the third set it seemed to start curling towards me instead of being straight up...

Shoudl I start back at 60kg till I can keep my wrists straight for every rep?

Hmm that's hard to say. You should really feel like the weight's pressure is going straight through to your forearms. It's strange that you feel you had the right form and lost it at a higher weight for this particular issue. I think your idea is a good one. Focus on the form at a doable weight and work up from there without losing form. Once you get it you should see some gains in the lift it sounds like As long as you're aware the problem is from you wrists bending backwards you know what to fix!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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