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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24691 Posts
June 21 2013 15:52 GMT
#2801
How long should it take to recover from strength training? I find after a workout I feel fine, then I feel sore the next day, and then like 2 days more after that!
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
June 21 2013 16:09 GMT
#2802
On June 22 2013 00:52 micronesia wrote:
How long should it take to recover from strength training? I find after a workout I feel fine, then I feel sore the next day, and then like 2 days more after that!

You'll get used to it after a while. It's not this immediate thing where you stop feeling sore after a workout, it's kind of gradual. As your body becomes better at adapting to it, you'll start to feel less sore.

You may have soreness for like 3 days after a workout, but it shouldn't be to the point where you can't do basic work and movement. If you're really sore to the point where it's inhibiting other stuff, just foam roll, stretch, massage, and maybe take a hot bath. That tends to help my muscles when they're sore.

Also, are you going to go to the Barcraft on the 30th?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24691 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 16:13:38
June 21 2013 16:13 GMT
#2803
On June 22 2013 01:09 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 00:52 micronesia wrote:
How long should it take to recover from strength training? I find after a workout I feel fine, then I feel sore the next day, and then like 2 days more after that!

You'll get used to it after a while. It's not this immediate thing where you stop feeling sore after a workout, it's kind of gradual. As your body becomes better at adapting to it, you'll start to feel less sore.

You may have soreness for like 3 days after a workout, but it shouldn't be to the point where you can't do basic work and movement. If you're really sore to the point where it's inhibiting other stuff, just foam roll, stretch, massage, and maybe take a hot bath. That tends to help my muscles when they're sore.

Also, are you going to go to the Barcraft on the 30th?

Don't know yet about the barcraft. As for working out, the soreness isn't making it difficult for me to do everyday things, so I'm not terribly worried (you might see me occasionally grimace though). I just feel like I'm recovering slowly, but that might just be that I'm getting older!
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
June 21 2013 16:16 GMT
#2804
Haha yeah age and experience both play a part in it. The more work you do the more you'll be able to workout without being sore. Within a week or two you should have noticeably less soreness. (google DOMS for more info)
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
rEalGuapo
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany832 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 18:04:02
June 24 2013 17:58 GMT
#2805
On June 20 2013 04:38 Tommylew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 23:26 mordek wrote:
Regarding the wrist pain, when you bench are your wrists and forearms in line? Some people will have their hand bent backwards and this obviously becomes a problem as you increase weight. I guess you can imagine it should look like your arm is punching something. You wouldn't punch something with your palm up in a fist. If your in the correct position there should be no reason to get wrist pain unless there's something else going on and pressing is aggravating it in general.


well in the gym today it does infact look like my wrists are going backwards instead of straight up the heavier the weight... whats the issue there then? my wrists are too weak for the weights or? I was focusing on keeping them as straight and after doing 6x60kg no problems and my first 6x65kg fine towards the end of the third set it seemed to start curling towards me instead of being straight up...

Shoudl I start back at 60kg till I can keep my wrists straight for every rep?


Your hand is probably "parallel" to the barbell. (talking about the two forearm bones)

You want the barbell between thumb and inedx finger but from there it should not run near the other fingers but kind of tilted.
[image loading]
This way the weight will be directly on the forearm bones (whatever they may be called in English) and your wrist plays little to no role at all.


On June 22 2013 01:13 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 01:09 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
On June 22 2013 00:52 micronesia wrote:
How long should it take to recover from strength training? I find after a workout I feel fine, then I feel sore the next day, and then like 2 days more after that!

You'll get used to it after a while. It's not this immediate thing where you stop feeling sore after a workout, it's kind of gradual. As your body becomes better at adapting to it, you'll start to feel less sore.

You may have soreness for like 3 days after a workout, but it shouldn't be to the point where you can't do basic work and movement. If you're really sore to the point where it's inhibiting other stuff, just foam roll, stretch, massage, and maybe take a hot bath. That tends to help my muscles when they're sore.

Also, are you going to go to the Barcraft on the 30th?

Don't know yet about the barcraft. As for working out, the soreness isn't making it difficult for me to do everyday things, so I'm not terribly worried (you might see me occasionally grimace though). I just feel like I'm recovering slowly, but that might just be that I'm getting older!


Do you eat and sleep enough?
I started working out again after a break of like 3 years with only a little bodyweight training every other week. After one month I am now training 6 days a week because I feel like it is NP. (yes I do increase the weight a lot and work my ass off in the gym, I am not taking it light)

When I am sore I just try to figure out if it is possible to still go with high weights or if I have to go with like 60% for more reps.
Being sore should not stop you from working out in strength training. otherwise you will squat and deadlift once a week from the start, that's not enough imo.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24691 Posts
June 24 2013 18:10 GMT
#2806
On June 25 2013 02:58 rEalGuapo wrote:
Do you eat and sleep enough?

Yes, and yes. I don't believe either of those are my problem (I definitely get enough sleep, although I can't promise my diet is ideal, of course).
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
June 24 2013 18:12 GMT
#2807
Have you seen improvement recently? It sounded like classic DOMS to me.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24691 Posts
June 24 2013 18:24 GMT
#2808
I'm going right now, so I'll get back to you in a day or two lol
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 25 2013 11:28 GMT
#2809
Been browsing this forum a while, it's kinda intimidating, with all you epic lifters and such.

As for me, I'm not massively serious but I have dumbbells at home that I use. I'm basically here to ask what all you experts think are the best core+abs exercises I can do are, given I basically have a floor to work with.

Thanks!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 25 2013 12:24 GMT
#2810
afaik the best non-weighted ab workouts are knee ups and l sits
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24691 Posts
June 25 2013 14:46 GMT
#2811
mordek I feel fine today despite doing a fair amount of strength training in my upper body yesterday! I'd say that's an improvement.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
June 25 2013 14:57 GMT
#2812
There ya go It's quite normal to have soreness if your starting something new or after taking a break. You just keep at it and it goes away. Glad to hear it!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
June 25 2013 14:59 GMT
#2813
It's like we weren't lying to you or something
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
June 26 2013 03:31 GMT
#2814
So I signed up for SL5x5 and will begin training July 1st. I got the excel spread sheet and it says "include the weight of the bar". So when the program sheet says do squat of 20 kg or 45 pounds, does he mean do 20kg/45 pount INCLUDING the bar? or ADD the weight of the bar?!?!?! Also, does he mean 45 pound on EACH SIDE??? or in TOTAL?!?

i put in max weight 135 pounds for 5 reps for bench press and it is telling me to start at 70... by 12 week ending, it will only be up to 155 pounds. I think he means I have to add in the bar weight... but could someone clarify this?

Also, this Youtube guy Elliot? (he seems popular) says cardio is definitely the way to burn fat, and SL5x5, despite being a very good program that he advocates for, won't help burn fat. Seems conflicting with the information I'm reading on this forum...
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
June 26 2013 09:26 GMT
#2815
the weight includes the bar. meaning, if the program sheet says to squat 45lbs, then you squat using just the bar. if it says squat 95lbs, then you squat the bar with a 25lb plate on each side of the bar (45+25+25=95).

it is telling you to start at lower weights because it takes a lot of time and reps to get the form and technique down. if you move up in weight too quickly, you'll have bad form when you do heavier weights, and you'll be at risk of injury.

i've watched a lot of elliot's videos. he doesn't actually say that cardio is the best way to burn fat (do you have the video where he says that?). he says that if someone wants to lose weight and get in shape, then he should:
1. change diet by eating only unprocessed foods and cutting out all drinks that aren't water.
2. get on some program (doesn't matter which, but he does like 5x5) and stick to it
3. do 30 minutes of low intensity cardio every day (he basically says to take a walk for 30min - hour everyday)
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
June 26 2013 10:44 GMT
#2816
Don't worry about starting at lower weights intitially. It is well worth getting the form and reps in so that you don't hit a plateau early (demoralizing) or get some joint/ligament/tendon issue since they don't recover and strengthen as quickly as your muscles are able to. Coming from someone who probably could have taken things slower to avoid the injuries I experienced, I highly recommend sticking with the bar and going from there!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 26 2013 11:07 GMT
#2817
On June 25 2013 21:24 Dead9 wrote:
afaik the best non-weighted ab workouts are knee ups and l sits


while I'm sure this guy isn't pulling my leg, anyone else agree/disagree with this?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
June 26 2013 11:29 GMT
#2818
Your abs primary purpose to brace and apply intra-abdominal pressure to support the spine. So for general ab health, anything that helps them more efficiently do that is good, so don't think crunches, think planks. If you have specific goals, like achieving manna, obviously L-sits and compression work will help. If it's just to have visible abs, you just need to maintain a diet that will get you there.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 26 2013 12:43 GMT
#2819
I'm ok with diet. What do you mean by achieving manna?

Honestly it's mostly a vanity thing ^^ I can sorta see the outlines of my abs already, only got a few pounds left of excess body fat I guess, I guess just decent exercises for bigger ab muscles is what I'm looking for, as browsing around there's soooo many and I guess some have to be better/more efficient than others.

I'm actually doing the normal plank as part of my current routine
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
June 26 2013 12:47 GMT
#2820
It's only a matter of time then for them to show then

Manna:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I normally do planks, L-sits, hanging L-sits, toe-to-bars. The last three are nice because you're working shoulders at the same time. More functional as you need to use your abs in conjunction with the rest of your body as opposed to trying to isolate them.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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