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On October 20 2011 23:47 Autofire2 wrote:
How long can one expect the novice effect to last? That is to say, increasing weights with each workout going just under the reccomendations Rip makes in the book Starting Strength? I know it'll vary but generally, how many weeks can a healthy but untrained 26 year old male (me, natch), expect to keep upping the weights?
I really depends on how well you manage to recover in the later stages. Malinor managed to get his squat up to 200kg with it.
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Yeah im close to 5'11 and I weigh 165 lbs.
200kg squat? Holy **** that makes me feel bad about myself lol.
Infinity, you seem to be close to me in physical make up...hows SS been treating you these last couple months? Some people here seem like they were born beasts and have been lifting for years, so its hard to compare myself to them.
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On October 21 2011 03:48 Autofire2 wrote:
Yeah im close to 5'11 and I weigh 165 lbs.
200kg squat? Holy **** that makes me feel bad about myself lol.
Infinity, you seem to be close to me in physical make up...hows SS been treating you these last couple months? Some people here seem like they were born beasts and have been lifting for years, so its hard to compare myself to them.
I actually started with SL5x5 and transitioned recently into 3x5 due to time constraints and recovery issues. As long as you sleep and eat enough, you'll get stronger and bigger.
My advice is to really get the technique down while you can. You'll make linear gains for longer and you reduce the chance of getting injured. Post form check videos after a couple of weeks to make sure you're on the right track.
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On October 21 2011 03:48 Autofire2 wrote:
Yeah im close to 5'11 and I weigh 165 lbs.
200kg squat? Holy **** that makes me feel bad about myself lol.
Infinity, you seem to be close to me in physical make up...hows SS been treating you these last couple months? Some people here seem like they were born beasts and have been lifting for years, so its hard to compare myself to them.
You can probably ride SS anywhere to the 1.25-2x bw for squat/deadlift.
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sweeet! Thanks guys. If I stall at 1.25x bw then I'll ask for more advice on this. If its well before that point, ill just tell myself to MAN THE F UP
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Hi all, I'm brand new to giving all of this a go so I apologize if the answer to my question is self-evident. I've read the large part of a lot of these threads here but I either missed it or read it and it didn't stick.
With things like pushups and situps do they follow the same rule as lifting weights? By that I mean do you have to take a day off inbetween to rest? I am giving the 100 pushups/200 situps program thing a go and it recoments to only do workout 3 days a week.
Friends have told me that the only way to go is to do things like pushups/situps every day as they do not "count" as working out persay.
Thank you for the help.
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On October 22 2011 01:45 Crais wrote:
Hi all, I'm brand new to giving all of this a go so I apologize if the answer to my question is self-evident. I've read the large part of a lot of these threads here but I either missed it or read it and it didn't stick.
With things like pushups and situps do they follow the same rule as lifting weights? By that I mean do you have to take a day off inbetween to rest? I am giving the 100 pushups/200 situps program thing a go and it recoments to only do workout 3 days a week.
Friends have told me that the only way to go is to do things like pushups/situps every day as they do not "count" as working out persay.
Thank you for the help.
It's great that you are exercising! But is there any reason in particular for doing pushups and situps? Once you can do more than a few, they really aren't going to benefit you much (besides being able to do lots of pushups/situps- which in reality isn't a really a good skill toi have).
If you are looking to get stronger, lose weight, look better, ect., following one of the programs listed in the General Training thread is the best way to go. If you don't want to shell out money for a gym membership, or you're not interested in that, then there is a body weight exercise section as well (which may require you to go to your local playground for some of the exercises).
Anyways, to actually answer your question: I think you should follow what the program recommends.
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On October 22 2011 02:27 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 01:45 Crais wrote:
Hi all, I'm brand new to giving all of this a go so I apologize if the answer to my question is self-evident. I've read the large part of a lot of these threads here but I either missed it or read it and it didn't stick.
With things like pushups and situps do they follow the same rule as lifting weights? By that I mean do you have to take a day off inbetween to rest? I am giving the 100 pushups/200 situps program thing a go and it recoments to only do workout 3 days a week.
Friends have told me that the only way to go is to do things like pushups/situps every day as they do not "count" as working out persay.
Thank you for the help.
It's great that you are exercising! But is there any reason in particular for doing pushups and situps? Once you can do more than a few, they really aren't going to benefit you much (besides being able to do lots of pushups/situps- which in reality isn't a really a good skill toi have). If you are looking to get stronger, lose weight, look better, ect., following one of the programs listed in the General Training thread is the best way to go. If you don't want to shell out money for a gym membership, or you're not interested in that, then there is a body weight exercise section as well (which may require you to go to your local playground for some of the exercises). Anyways, to actually answer your question: I think you should follow what the program recommends.
Hey, thanks for the reply. I was thinking of starting with pushups/situps first for a couple reasons. I want to get some strength back before I even attempt the gym, and second to see if I will actually stick with it. (Although the discovery of this sub-forum is what has got me motivated to do this in the first place!)
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On October 22 2011 03:00 Crais wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 02:27 emperorchampion wrote:On October 22 2011 01:45 Crais wrote:
Hi all, I'm brand new to giving all of this a go so I apologize if the answer to my question is self-evident. I've read the large part of a lot of these threads here but I either missed it or read it and it didn't stick.
With things like pushups and situps do they follow the same rule as lifting weights? By that I mean do you have to take a day off inbetween to rest? I am giving the 100 pushups/200 situps program thing a go and it recoments to only do workout 3 days a week.
Friends have told me that the only way to go is to do things like pushups/situps every day as they do not "count" as working out persay.
Thank you for the help.
It's great that you are exercising! But is there any reason in particular for doing pushups and situps? Once you can do more than a few, they really aren't going to benefit you much (besides being able to do lots of pushups/situps- which in reality isn't a really a good skill toi have). If you are looking to get stronger, lose weight, look better, ect., following one of the programs listed in the General Training thread is the best way to go. If you don't want to shell out money for a gym membership, or you're not interested in that, then there is a body weight exercise section as well (which may require you to go to your local playground for some of the exercises). Anyways, to actually answer your question: I think you should follow what the program recommends. Hey, thanks for the reply. I was thinking of starting with pushups/situps first for a couple reasons. I want to get some strength back before I even attempt the gym, and second to see if I will actually stick with it. (Although the discovery of this sub-forum is what has got me motivated to do this in the first place!)
Starting Strength, read it and do it. 
To paraphrase someone else: TLH&F provides the motivation, all you have to do is eat a ton and throw heavy weights around.
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On October 22 2011 03:07 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 03:00 Crais wrote:On October 22 2011 02:27 emperorchampion wrote:On October 22 2011 01:45 Crais wrote:
Hi all, I'm brand new to giving all of this a go so I apologize if the answer to my question is self-evident. I've read the large part of a lot of these threads here but I either missed it or read it and it didn't stick.
With things like pushups and situps do they follow the same rule as lifting weights? By that I mean do you have to take a day off inbetween to rest? I am giving the 100 pushups/200 situps program thing a go and it recoments to only do workout 3 days a week.
Friends have told me that the only way to go is to do things like pushups/situps every day as they do not "count" as working out persay.
Thank you for the help.
It's great that you are exercising! But is there any reason in particular for doing pushups and situps? Once you can do more than a few, they really aren't going to benefit you much (besides being able to do lots of pushups/situps- which in reality isn't a really a good skill toi have). If you are looking to get stronger, lose weight, look better, ect., following one of the programs listed in the General Training thread is the best way to go. If you don't want to shell out money for a gym membership, or you're not interested in that, then there is a body weight exercise section as well (which may require you to go to your local playground for some of the exercises). Anyways, to actually answer your question: I think you should follow what the program recommends. Hey, thanks for the reply. I was thinking of starting with pushups/situps first for a couple reasons. I want to get some strength back before I even attempt the gym, and second to see if I will actually stick with it. (Although the discovery of this sub-forum is what has got me motivated to do this in the first place!) Starting Strength, read it and do it. To paraphrase someone else: TLH&F provides the motivation, all you have to do is eat a ton and throw heavy weights around.
I'll definitly give it a go. Thanks! That quote is great heh.
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On October 22 2011 03:00 Crais wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 02:27 emperorchampion wrote:On October 22 2011 01:45 Crais wrote:
Hi all, I'm brand new to giving all of this a go so I apologize if the answer to my question is self-evident. I've read the large part of a lot of these threads here but I either missed it or read it and it didn't stick.
With things like pushups and situps do they follow the same rule as lifting weights? By that I mean do you have to take a day off inbetween to rest? I am giving the 100 pushups/200 situps program thing a go and it recoments to only do workout 3 days a week.
Friends have told me that the only way to go is to do things like pushups/situps every day as they do not "count" as working out persay.
Thank you for the help.
It's great that you are exercising! But is there any reason in particular for doing pushups and situps? Once you can do more than a few, they really aren't going to benefit you much (besides being able to do lots of pushups/situps- which in reality isn't a really a good skill toi have). If you are looking to get stronger, lose weight, look better, ect., following one of the programs listed in the General Training thread is the best way to go. If you don't want to shell out money for a gym membership, or you're not interested in that, then there is a body weight exercise section as well (which may require you to go to your local playground for some of the exercises). Anyways, to actually answer your question: I think you should follow what the program recommends. Hey, thanks for the reply. I was thinking of starting with pushups/situps first for a couple reasons. I want to get some strength back before I even attempt the gym, and second to see if I will actually stick with it. (Although the discovery of this sub-forum is what has got me motivated to do this in the first place!)
You don't need ''strength'' to start starting strength (hence ''starting strength'' lol)
also when you start it and have lots of rest/food the numbers on the weights will increase quite alot and that is more than enough motivation to get you back in the gym in the next day.
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Hi all, just decided a few weeks ago that finally i have to change something about my weight and overall health and fitness. I would be really glad if i could get some advice on my current diet.
I'm currently @ ~145kg and 183cm. I started eating as paleo as possible and cut all sweets and sweet beverages. No fast foods, too.
I feel great since i changed my diet, but sometimes i feel like i'm still eating too much.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zO1FV.jpg)
Does this look ok or should i cut my calorie intake even more?
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On October 24 2011 05:00 shrinkmaster wrote:Hi all, just decided a few weeks ago that finally i have to change something about my weight and overall health and fitness. I would be really glad if i could get some advice on my current diet. I'm currently @ ~145kg and 183cm. I started eating as paleo as possible and cut all sweets and sweet beverages. No fast foods, too. I feel great since i changed my diet, but sometimes i feel like i'm still eating too much. Does this look ok or should i cut my calorie intake even more?
It depends on what you are doing exercise wise. Plan to be about 500cal below what you need every day, that adds up to about 1lb lost/week. 1800cal/day seems pretty reasonable, I think the "full feeling" is because you are eating a lot of fat, which is more satiating than say carbs (a good thing, you don't want to be hungry).
If you are weightlifting, you could probably get more protein as well.
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hey guys I wanna try paleo diet. here in the philippines though we eat rice everyday. what are good substitutes for rice? thanks!
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1800cal/day is pretty low already, if your body can handle it stay since youve got a lot of excess fat.
Levistus: Sweet potatoes/yams
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ok i want to organise my workouts again.
the things i do each workout are the following-
handstand pushups (leaning on the wall) -mostly for training my anterior delts coz they seem lacking and small.
dips- excellent tri and chest workout
chins/pullups-excellent lat/arms workout
L-sit training/V-ups- want to be able to do this skill and train my core strength.
HIIT- for basketball and is compulsory for me.
for me this workout takes more than an hour to complete if i do 3 sets of each excercise and 20mins of HIIT. and its too exhausting to do for an hour of INTENSE exercise.
my question is that is there anyway exercises above i should get rid of because they are not really helping me. sorry its a bit broad but for example if i had pushups in there then i would get rid of pushups since dips are a superior exercise hence i dont need pushups.
I am thinking maybe pullups/dips will develop my anterior delts so i dont need handstand pushups? or maybe i could do kipping pullups to help my core strength. or should i do some sort of split with dips and L sit on one day and do the rest on the following day...?
i am not sure at all.
thanks for reading!
ps- is it still worth working out even if you're tired and you somewhat know you are not going to lift well and lift the next day or should you still go ahead cept deload by like 10% and take it easy.
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On October 24 2011 14:04 jjhchsc2 wrote:
ok i want to organise my workouts again.
the things i do each workout are the following-
handstand pushups (leaning on the wall) -mostly for training my anterior delts coz they seem lacking and small.
dips- excellent tri and chest workout
chins/pullups-excellent lat/arms workout
L-sit training/V-ups- want to be able to do this skill and train my core strength.
HIIT- for basketball and is compulsory for me.
for me this workout takes more than an hour to complete if i do 3 sets of each excercise and 20mins of HIIT. and its too exhausting to do for an hour of INTENSE exercise.
my question is that is there anyway exercises above i should get rid of because they are not really helping me. sorry its a bit broad but for example if i had pushups in there then i would get rid of pushups since dips are a superior exercise hence i dont need pushups.
I am thinking maybe pullups/dips will develop my anterior delts so i dont need handstand pushups? or maybe i could do kipping pullups to help my core strength. or should i do some sort of split with dips and L sit on one day and do the rest on the following day...?
i am not sure at all.
thanks for reading!
ps- is it still worth working out even if you're tired and you somewhat know you are not going to lift well and lift the next day or should you still go ahead cept deload by like 10% and take it easy.
Do dips and pullups in L position will cut out L-sit exercises
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Hey! Kinda feels weird that this would be my first post since I've been lurking around but I really could use some advice.
I'm 2 metres tall (about 6.5 I believe) and weigh 69 kgs (152 lbs or something like that). I haven't been exactly the sports type but I picked up swimming & gym over the summer and stuck with it. I go to the gym and swim 6 days a week (3 gym / 3 swim / rest on Sunday). I'm trying to eat fairly healthy. I believe my diet is somewhere between 1700-2000 calories.
Do I actually need more rest between workouts to get any 'effect'/results, or should I just keep at it? I don't really feel tired that much and I'll probably start feeling lazy if I skip a day.
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you need to eat more. a lot more, if you wanna grow.
all depends on your goals, you must be a twig with those stats. so i'd say stop swimming, lift heavy ass weights and eat like a pig. that is if you wanna get bigger.
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On October 25 2011 03:01 Alick wrote:
Hey! Kinda feels weird that this would be my first post since I've been lurking around but I really could use some advice.
I'm 2 metres tall (about 6.5 I believe) and weigh 69 kgs (152 lbs or something like that). I haven't been exactly the sports type but I picked up swimming & gym over the summer and stuck with it. I go to the gym and swim 6 days a week (3 gym / 3 swim / rest on Sunday). I'm trying to eat fairly healthy. I believe my diet is somewhere between 1700-2000 calories.
Do I actually need more rest between workouts to get any 'effect'/results, or should I just keep at it? I don't really feel tired that much and I'll probably start feeling lazy if I skip a day.
The dedicated swimmers Ive known try to eat lik 3.5-4k calories a day and still have trouble gaining weight.
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